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Lee Harvey Oswald posted:That will help with the Republican base, as Republicans have an arbitrary hatred (because they're rear end in a top hat bullies) of public school teachers. Zwabu posted:Yeah, I think there has to be some massive "get Hispanic voters registered and caring about voting" event in Texas as a necessary intermediate step to converting demographic potential into electoral potential, and it hasn't happened yet. Whether a really good campaign for Senate or Governor by an appealing candidate like one of the Castro brothers could catalyze this remains to be seen. jeffersonlives posted:Let's not go overboard here. Christie's going to have top tier money and full name recognition, and if Huntsman ever got to that point he would have been a serious player. Badger of Basra posted:I think you will find he has solved all of these problems with some snappy glasses. Perry 2016.
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Nov 4, 2013 03:19
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ReindeerF posted:Don't fail to note his massive sweater budget. I'd have loved to have been in that strategy meeting. "Alright, we need to make you look like one of them smart fellers on the boob tube, they wear sweaters and faggy glasses an' poo poo. Send someone down to campus to figger out where to buy some." I don't think it was a good ol boy, I think it was some bowtie-wearing College Republican rear end in a top hat. Reminds me of someone I saw on the bus to work in downtown Austin this summer. The day after Wendy Davis' filibuster, some white kid in an oversized suit was talking about how it was a load of bullshit and how he would've called in the national guard because he's a "law and order" kind of guy. He also had a Ron Paul button on his backpack and got off at the Texas Public Policy Foundation.
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Nov 4, 2013 03:32
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I figured this would be the best place to ask, I've got a rare opportunity tonight, Rick Santorum and Howard Dean are debating at my university tonight. If I get the chance does anyone have a good question for me to pose at the debate?
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Nov 4, 2013 13:57
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Big_Daddy_Fabio posted:I figured this would be the best place to ask, I've got a rare opportunity tonight, Rick Santorum and Howard Dean are debating at my university tonight. If I get the chance does anyone have a good question for me to pose at the debate? Which one of you can fit more grapes in your mouth?
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Nov 4, 2013 14:07
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Dr. Dean, now that you're sharing a stage with Rick Santorum in person, do you feel comfortable diagnosing what exact mental illness he suffers from?
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Nov 4, 2013 14:16
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Ask Santorum if he supports the free market and then ask him if he thinks employers should be able to hire whoever they want.
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Nov 4, 2013 14:30
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Big_Daddy_Fabio posted:I figured this would be the best place to ask, I've got a rare opportunity tonight, Rick Santorum and Howard Dean are debating at my university tonight. If I get the chance does anyone have a good question for me to pose at the debate? "Senator Santorum, do you consider your level of attention to gay people an obsession or merely a preoccupation?"
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Nov 4, 2013 14:37
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Mr. Santorum, in light of the recent revelations about NSA surveillance around the world, have you googled yourself lately?
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Nov 4, 2013 17:57
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Also make sure you're wearing a pink T-shirt if you're a guy.
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Nov 4, 2013 18:05
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Mr. Santorum, how do you plan on appealing to the blah people in the 2016 primaries.
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Nov 4, 2013 18:17
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SAVE_US.CHR
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ChampRamp posted:Mr. Santorum, how do you plan on appealing to the blah people in the 2016 primaries.
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Nov 4, 2013 18:32
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"Mr. Santorum, are you loving kidding me?" Should work pretty much regardless of what he specifically says.
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Nov 4, 2013 18:35
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Ask him how he plans to help Cuccinelli's initiative to criminalize oral sex.
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Nov 4, 2013 19:07
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Ask him a damning yet reasonable-sounding question so he can't shut you down with a response about your tone.
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Nov 4, 2013 19:11
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Melissa Tomlinson, the New Jersey teacher photographed being shouted at by Chris Christie on Saturday will be on The Ed Show tonight, which starts in about 8 minutes.
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Nov 4, 2013 22:54
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Mr. Santorum, why do you hate America?
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Nov 5, 2013 01:59
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Highspeeddub posted:Melissa Tomlinson, the New Jersey teacher photographed being shouted at by Chris Christie on Saturday will be on The Ed Show tonight, which starts in about 8 minutes. Did Chris Hayes get booted? e: no, it's still Chris Hayes on
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Nov 5, 2013 02:05
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Andy Kaczynski continues to use turnitin.com on Rand Paul material, the results continue to be hilarious.quote:Sections of an op-ed Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul wrote on mandatory minimums in The Washington Times in September appear nearly identical to an article by Dan Stewart of The Week that ran a week earlier. The discovery comes amid reports from BuzzFeed that Paul plagiarized in his book and in several speeches. Also, how has nobody got Biden to comment on this yet? Because that's gonna be a good comment.
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Nov 5, 2013 02:37
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Joementum posted:Also, how has nobody got Biden to comment on this yet? Because that's gonna be a good comment.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:57
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I always wonder if Rand is knowingly plagiarizing, or if he just attracts talent that is likely to cut corners when writing his speeches for him. I guess by 'always' I mean I wonder every few years when some other jackass gets caught saying verbatim someone else's words. I don't get how a Senator could write something and say, "Yeah, nobody else will ever read this", but I could definitely imagine a staff member saying "There's no way Rand will read this before I'm out of here, gently caress that guy and his deadlines".
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Nov 5, 2013 16:39
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Cheekio posted:I always wonder if Rand is knowingly plagiarizing, or if he just attracts talent that is likely to cut corners when writing his speeches for him. I guess by 'always' I mean I wonder every few years when some other jackass gets caught saying verbatim someone else's words. I suspect it's more "here's some cool material that will sound good for this speech" and the idea that it is plagiarism and wrong doesn't even occur to them.
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Nov 5, 2013 16:43
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Cheekio posted:I always wonder if Rand is knowingly plagiarizing, or if he just attracts talent that is likely to cut corners when writing his speeches for him. The free market requires you hire the cheapest speech writers in existence. Those just happen to be the duo of Jeffrey Copy and Peter Paste.
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Nov 5, 2013 16:43
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Deteriorata posted:I suspect it's more "here's some cool material that will sound good for this speech" and the idea that it is plagiarism and wrong doesn't even occur to them. Unless things have changed in that office in the past couple years, he doesn't write most of his own speeches. (Droning about drones may be a possible exception to this.) That's not a negative comment, also - I can't think of any Senators who write their own on a regular basis. Most of them do at most token editing unless it's a major speech.
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Nov 6, 2013 00:06
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Kalman posted:Unless things have changed in that office in the past couple years, he doesn't write most of his own speeches. (Droning about drones may be a possible exception to this.) Anyone who has taken a high school writing course knows plagiarising is a big no no. It's automatic expulsion from college. Unless Rand Paul hired 4th graders to write his speeches the people working for him knew better. Oh, and he lost his column with the Washington Times today. http://www.mediaite.com/online/washington-times-ends-rand-pauls-column-following-plagiarism-accusations/
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Nov 6, 2013 04:22
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Wow. That's like being blacklisted at the National Enquirer. Do you think the Weekly World News is hiring?
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Nov 6, 2013 04:46
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Cease to Hope posted:Wow. That's like being blacklisted at the National Enquirer. Do you think the Weekly World News is hiring? While still existing in rump web form, I regret to inform you that the pinnacle of tabloid journalism that was the Weekly World News ended its print run in 2007. Highspeeddub posted:Anyone who has taken a high school writing course knows plagiarising is a big no no. It's automatic expulsion from college. Unless Rand Paul hired 4th graders to write his speeches the people working for him knew better. This too I am sorry to say is not always the case; I've referred undergrads for disciplinary action on plagiarism and discovered that one instance alone is not enough to get them bounced, at least at the major public university I work at.
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Nov 6, 2013 05:36
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Captain_Maclaine posted:While still existing in rump web form, I regret to inform you that the pinnacle of tabloid journalism that was the Weekly World News ended its print run in 2007. My favorite story on plagiarism comes from my sister, a history prof at Penn: Her: I'm sorry, I can't give you credit for this paper. It's not original work. Student: What do you mean? I wrote it myself! Her: You copied it. It's obvious. Student: How could you possibly know that? Her: It's straight out of [famous history book from the '50s]. It's quite well known. Student:  No, I mean how did you know I copied my mother's paper?
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Nov 6, 2013 05:44
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Deteriorata posted:My favorite story on plagiarism comes from my sister, a history prof at Penn: My absolute favorite (so far)? Guy clearly was cribbing his exam answers off his smartphone. I was a TA at the time and didn't catch him in the act (though he was eyeballing me enough as I walked around to get my suspicions up), but his answers were clearly stolen, since he looked up the wrong Russo-Turkish War on wikipedia and just copied it wholesale without bothering to consider that he was writing about the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78, for a class that concluded with events in the 1850s. loving idiot. \/\/\/ I too need to proofread better, it would seem. Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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Nov 6, 2013 06:10
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Captain_Maclaine posted:about the Russo-Turkish War of 1977-78, for a class that concluded with events in the 1850s. loving idiot. In 1977?? Wow, that must been a hot point of the Cold War! (I keed, I keed) But yeah, don't copy, attribute source exactingly.
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Nov 6, 2013 06:37
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Highspeeddub posted:Anyone who has taken a high school writing course knows plagiarising is a big no no. It's automatic expulsion from college. Unless Rand Paul hired 4th graders to write his speeches the people working for him knew better. Yes, plagiarism is bad, but he doesn't really deserve personal blame for his staff doing it, most likely without him being aware. When I worked on the hill, I could easily have slipped plagiarized material into prepared remarks and unless my LD knew the source material well enough to call me on it, it would have gone out unaltered. I don't place any real blame on him as a plagiarist for giving the speeches/writing the book, because the odds are extremely high that he didn't actually do it. On the other hand, his office - which includes him - they deserve blame for hiring mediocre staff and not pointing out that they might want to credit folks.
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Nov 6, 2013 06:56
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Captain_Maclaine posted:This too I am sorry to say is not always the case; I've referred undergrads for disciplinary action on plagiarism and discovered that one instance alone is not enough to get them bounced, at least at the major public university I work at. Unless standards have really disintegrated, it is an automatic F. Oh, and the fact that plagiarism is coming up in virtually everything Paul has written or said means that he is a clown no matter how good his staff is.
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Nov 6, 2013 07:25
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Kalman posted:Yes, plagiarism is bad, but he doesn't really deserve personal blame for his staff doing it, most likely without him being aware. When I worked on the hill, I could easily have slipped plagiarized material into prepared remarks and unless my LD knew the source material well enough to call me on it, it would have gone out unaltered. I don't place any real blame on him as a plagiarist for giving the speeches/writing the book, because the odds are extremely high that he didn't actually do it. I dunno, I think the fun part of this is that until he publicly admits what we all know and throws a staffer under the bus, we can reasonably pretend that he, personally, is a plagarist, just like we enjoy mentioning how his father thinks black youths to be incredibly fleet-footed. If it goes out under his name, and he's not willing to take real responsibility, then he is a willing participant in the bad behavior for which is being criticized.
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Nov 6, 2013 07:28
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OneThousandMonkeys posted:Unless standards have really disintegrated, it is an automatic F. A lot of schools these days you can just cry in front of the prof and department chair and get your mom to call up angry a few times and they'll more often than not just let you redo the assignment. It's part of the "student as customer" mindset that's infected higher ed ever since they started hiring business people as admin.
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Nov 6, 2013 09:10
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I finished my masters degree 8 years ago, has it really degraded that much? Maybe I shouldn't be surprised Rand Paul staffers thought they could get away with cribbing other people's work.
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Nov 6, 2013 12:51
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Highspeeddub posted:Maybe I shouldn't be surprised Rand Paul staffers thought they could get away with cribbing other people's work. I strongly suspect that if you ran Senate press releases and op-eds through turnitin.com as Andy's doing for Rand's stuff you'd find he's not the only Senator with this problem, though reading the Gattaca Wikipedia article in a speech is certainly a new level of stupidity. Joementum fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Nov 6, 2013 |
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Nov 6, 2013 12:57
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Yeah, what Joe said. If Copyscape had existed 20-100 years ago I'm sure history would be littered with this. I'm surprised it's not done more often.
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Nov 6, 2013 13:01
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Didn't Biden have a plagiarism problem that derailed his first Presidential run?
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Nov 6, 2013 15:24
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notthegoatseguy posted:Didn't Biden have a plagiarism problem that derailed his first Presidential run? That was a rather bizarre example. He copied parts of Neil Kinnock's biographical material for his plagiarized speech, including the "I was the first person in my family to go to college" bits that were true in Kinnock's case but not in Biden's.
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Nov 6, 2013 15:37
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notthegoatseguy posted:Didn't Biden have a plagiarism problem that derailed his first Presidential run? Major controversy beset Biden's candidacy, beginning on September 12, 1987 with high-profile articles in The New York Times and The Des Moines Register. Biden was accused of plagiarizing a speech by Neil Kinnock, leader of the British Labour Party. Biden had in fact cited Kinnock as the source for the formulation on previous occasions. But he made no reference to the original source at the August 23 Democratic debate at the Iowa State Fair being reported on, nor in an August 26 interview for the National Education Association. Moreover, while political speeches often appropriate ideas and language from each other, Biden's use came under more scrutiny because he fabricated aspects of his own family's background in order to match Kinnock's.
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