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You can't talk about Sudanese border disputes and leave out Abyei, an area claimed by both South Sudan and Sudan that has already led to a border war and a military occupation by the Sudanese army within the last two years. Just a couple of days ago a chunk of the citizens of Abyei voted to join South Sudan in an unauthorized referendum and were roundly condemned by the AU for trying to stir up some poo poo after the September 26th Agreement between the North and South that ended the conflict. I wonder why Abyei is so sought after?   Oh...
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Phlegmish posted:I've always wondered how American counties work in practice. With their arbitrary square shapes that don't have anything to do with geography, it must be extremely hard to keep track of who has jurisdiction where. In New England counties work mostly the same way they do in Old England, that being pretty much ceremonial. All local government here takes place at the town level. That's only a New England thing though, in other states counties actually do something.
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Nov 6, 2013 23:10
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Do you know where they got those numbers? I have a hard time believing there are less that 5 guns per 100 people in Syria or the DRC. Government gun registries perhaps?
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Nov 6, 2013 23:35
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Monkeytime posted:Do you know where they got those numbers? I have a hard time believing there are less that 5 guns per 100 people in Syria or the DRC. Government gun registries perhaps? It's at least a couple of years old because Sudan hasn't split.
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Nov 6, 2013 23:57
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Bishop Rodan posted:In New England counties work mostly the same way they do in Old England, that being pretty much ceremonial. All local government here takes place at the town level. Well in England ceremonial counties are different from the modern divisions of local government, 'Shire' Counties, London boroughs, metropolitan boroughs and unitary authorities, (basically medium sized cities, or small conurbations) . With the first three being divided into districts, which in the 'Shire'counties tend to basically be small city councils, or rural areas. Someone posted a map earlier. edit: Though in my experience, outside of villages where they do occasionally exert some power, parish level governance is basically just voting districts for local council elections. Rumda fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 00:33
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Bishop Rodan posted:In New England counties work mostly the same way they do in Old England, that being pretty much ceremonial. All local government here takes place at the town level. Yeah, in CT counties have no political powers whatsoever. The only time counties are referred to here are for statistical and geographic purposes, like when the National Weather Service issues weather watches, warnings and advisories.
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Nov 7, 2013 01:38
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Mister Adequate posted:
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Nov 7, 2013 07:13
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PittTheElder posted:It remains disputed in a few places. Same story with Saudi Arabia and Oman I think. There's a few more examples out there, but the best one is probably Bir Tawil, which I'm sure long time followers of the thread are familiar with. It's a little strip of land between Egypt and Sudan, but claimed by neither. The actually disputed land is the nearby and much more valuable Hala'ib Triangle, but due to details in how the border was delimited (line of latitude vs. actual administration), the claims to the Hala'ib triangle means neither actually claims Bir Tawil.
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Nov 7, 2013 07:24
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Lycus posted:I'm still waiting for some libertarian group to move to Bir Tawil, lay claim to it and try to start some casinos or something. Would love to see how that turned out. The best case scenario for the libertarian group is that it becomes relatively prosperous. In which case it would immediately be invaded by both Egypt and Sudan.
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Nov 7, 2013 07:30
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Lycus posted:I'm still waiting for some libertarian group to move to Bir Tawil, lay claim to it and try to start some casinos or something. Would love to see how that turned out. I too would be mildly amused to see a bunch of moron libertarians remove themselves to the desert, likely to die there. Perhaps they'll try that after their non-maintained seasteads capsize.
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Nov 7, 2013 07:47
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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withak posted:As far as other CA county generalizations go, San Mateo and Santa Clara are pretty solidly soulless tech industry suburbanite NIMBYs, specifically opposed to any kind of public transit.   I concede to the having no soul thing, though.
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Nov 7, 2013 08:42
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Search for "greater denmark", out pops a map of greater Germany. The closest to a Greater Denmark there is is a screenshot from Europa Universalis 3. Proof that us Danes are still inward-looking nationalists? Sorry to bring up something from like five pages ago, but this reminded me of something strange that I saw in an EU4 game a while ago:  Hm. Something about Denmark looks a little bit off, here, but I can't quite put my finger on it. Hm. Hmmm.
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Nov 7, 2013 09:20
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Why the question mark on that map? Does it have a function in the game?
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Nov 7, 2013 09:43
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the jizz taxi posted:Why the question mark on that map? Does it have a function in the game?
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Nov 7, 2013 09:52
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the jizz taxi posted:Why the question mark on that map? Does it have a function in the game? When something from CK2 doesn't have a proper "conversion" into EU4 I think that happens.
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Nov 7, 2013 09:54
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the jizz taxi posted:Why the question mark on that map? Does it have a function in the game? It was a special charcter that got messed up in the CK2-EU4 conversion.
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Nov 7, 2013 09:56
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I had a CK2 game where the independent Duchy of Aquitane held all of Northeast France and the Kingdom of France all of Southwest France, and the borders didn't move loving anywhere for a hundred years.
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Nov 7, 2013 10:37
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Strudel Man posted:That's the Uncertain Kingdom of Rastok. There's a solid grey province to the east named Rastok! The mapmaker wasn't sure whether the striped part was Rastok or not, but he was confident about the solid part.
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Nov 7, 2013 13:19
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Rincewind posted:Sorry to bring up something from like five pages ago, but this reminded me of something strange that I saw in an EU4 game a while ago: In my current EU4 game Denmark controls all of Scandanavia and I don't know why (I started as Ming so I didn't see Europe for 300 years).
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Arguably Denmark did control Scandinavia for a short period of time, so it's not that weird.
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 Source: http://www.tufts.edu/alumni/magazine/fall2013/features/up-in-arms.html
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Because modern Louisiana and Quebec have so much in common.
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Hah, I knew the moment I opened that page that the author would be from New England. [edit: It's also really weird that article is framed in terms of gun violence, because including Michigan in "Yankeedom" contradicts almost every point he makes.] BRAKE FOR MOOSE fucked around with this message at 15:57 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 15:54
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disheveled posted:Hah, I knew the moment I opened that page that the author would be from New England. Same. "[Yankeedom] has prized education, intellectual achievement, communal empowerment, and broad citizen participation in politics and government, the latter seen as the public’s shield against the machinations of grasping aristocrats and other would-be tyrants" Quit reading right here. I mean there's simplification and then there's outright fabrication. Peanut President fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 15:55
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Pakled posted:Because modern Louisiana and Quebec have so much in common. They're two peas in a pod, I tell ya! e: and why in the gently caress is the Upper Midwest clumped in with New England?
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Nov 7, 2013 15:57
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Ofaloaf posted:
Votes for Democrats = just like me.  e: I love that "First Nation" is conveniently all of the lovely land in Canada but for some reason Oklahoma and The Navajo Nation isn't included. computer parts fucked around with this message at 16:10 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 16:01
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Ofaloaf posted:They both theoretically speak French, except Louisiana doesn't do that much at all today, and they both speak strongly different dialects, not to mention the difference between Cajun French and Louisiana Creole alone. I don't get that at all. I would split that into Great Lakes and New England. They're similar but not really. Also I don't get why counties north of St. Louis are Appalachian but St. Louis isn't, or why Midlands is the way it is. St. Louis isn't anything like Phillie.
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Nov 7, 2013 16:05
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I mean I get putting New Jersey in it's own little country but why New Netherlands?
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rscott posted:I mean I get putting New Jersey in it's own little country but why New Netherlands?
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Nov 7, 2013 16:13
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Ofaloaf posted:It's because New York City is its own little world, and it makes sense to call it after the old Dutch colony that used to encompass all of New York State because New Netherlands had a few spots in Jersey that they tried to colonize but iirc only one or two spots were successful, not to mention taken over pretty quickly later on. Also, The Midlands is by far the worst one on there.
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Why is Philadelphia clumped in with the midlands? What did we do to deserve that? Also, why does Greater Appalachia stretch well west of anything resembling Appalachian culture?
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I know we're just dogpiling on that poo poo map now, but it's also worth mentioning how CLEARLY you just can't think of the West Texas and eastern New Mexico desert without of course thinking "Appalachia".
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Guys, the obvious answer is the author is just some random idiot who doe......[Googles Colin Woodard] There's an entire loving book dedicated to this thoughtless map and it was well received?!
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GreenCard78 posted:Also, The Midlands is by far the worst one on there. Yeah, the rest you can stretch into sorrrrrrt of making sense on some arbitrary scale, but that is basically just a generically meaningless area of "welp, guess they're kinda moderate." Stretching it from coast to plains and shoehorning Ontario into it is hilarious.
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Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:Also, why does Greater Appalachia stretch well west of anything resembling Appalachian culture? It lumps a whole lot of poor white trash everywhere together.
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Nov 7, 2013 16:34
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CaptBushido posted:I know we're just dogpiling on that poo poo map now, but it's also worth mentioning how CLEARLY you just can't think of the West Texas and eastern New Mexico desert without of course thinking "Appalachia". "poor people who I don't like should be clumped together so I don't have to look at or be associated with them"
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Nov 7, 2013 16:49
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Hip-Hoptimus Rhyme posted:Why is Philadelphia clumped in with the midlands? What did we do to deserve that? Because we're not good enough for the walking rich Boston stereotype that engages if base, classist regionalism and wrote that loving article, don't you feel like your brethren in the Oklahoma Panhandle anyway? Also we're not part of New Netherlands despite having the first capital of New Sweden (which was taken over by the Dutch) right down the drat Delaware River! Hell, where the hell does he think Schuylkill comes from!
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Y'all could have actually read the whole thing and saw that it's a positive look on regionalism, and it's used as a tool to explain why America is so fractured in opinion. None of it is "loving rednecks with their guns", but hey! That's easier than reading the drat thing. e: except for the deep south. gently caress the deep south
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SWITCH HITLER posted:Y'all could have actually read the whole thing and saw that it's a positive look on regionalism, and it's used as a tool to explain why America is so fractured in opinion. None of it is "loving rednecks with their guns", but hey! That's easier than reading the drat thing. You mean except for the fact that the geographic regions are pretty inaccurately divided?
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