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Posting again in the hopes that somebody can help me out: So I have a quick question about eggs moves. Currently I'm trying to get a Forretress with Stealth Rock on it. I have a Dwebble which can breed with Forretress, and Dwebble learns stealth rock. If I were to breed male dwebble (knowing Stealth Rock) with a female Forretress, presumably I would get a Pineco with Stealth Rock on it, as I understand it. Now, my question is, let's say I end up with this Pineco that knows Stealth Rock. If I breed that with other Forretress/Pineco, will it be able to pass on Stealth Rock to any offspring? Or must my final Pineco have the Dwebble be one of its parents? Thanks for any help
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BattleMaster posted:Oh my God the Sundae Dress is so hideous. It really is, I was disappointed 
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Nov 8, 2013 20:32
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As of this gen, mothers can also pass on egg moves.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:32
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Egg moves are passed if any parent knows them, regardless of how they came to know them. The game just looks at both parents, sees if a valid egg move exists on either, and hatches the baby with that move. So once you breed an egg move onto a species, it will stay within that species as long as you keep at least one parent knowing the move.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:33
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BattleCake posted:Now, my question is, let's say I end up with this Pineco that knows Stealth Rock. If I breed that with other Forretress/Pineco, will it be able to pass on Stealth Rock to any offspring? Or must my final Pineco have the Dwebble be one of its parents? Thanks for any help Yes, if a Pokemon has learned an egg move trough breeding, it will give the egg move to its offspring even if the other parent doesn't have the egg move.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:36
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Braviary hasn't done well out of the transition to 3D. It was pretty cool looking in gen 5, but its 3D model has too long a neck - it makes it look dopey rather than impressive. It's a shame. Overall I think most pokemon look pretty good in 3D. Which others have bad-looking models? (excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor)
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Nov 8, 2013 20:49
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Hammerite posted:Braviary hasn't done well out of the transition to 3D. It was pretty cool looking in gen 5, but its 3D model has too long a neck - it makes it look dopey rather than impressive. It's a shame. Overall I think most pokemon look pretty good in 3D. Which others have bad-looking models? (excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor) Xatu is absolute garbage in 3D. He is a totem pole, he's not supposed to fly that way 
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Nov 8, 2013 20:50
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Have they made breeding for perfect poke stats easier? I mean, besides the fact that you get 2IV pokes from the friend safari. It takes several generations to get them to 5IV level but it seems like once I have parents that are 5IV pokes, I get 6IV pokes in ~8-9 eggs. This has happened thrice, now, all males, so I have studs I can use for monster/dragon, field, and water 3. Shouldn't the odds, assuming the parents have IV spreads that complement each other, still be (1/31)*(1/2)*(1/2) [hopefully that's the right calculation for the destiny knot to choose the correct IV in the parent that has the 31]? Am I just incredibly lucky or is that not how it's calculated it at all? e: Just so I don't sound like the spergiest here  , I was merely attempting to get a 5IV spread that didn't care about the poke's least useful stat. I just noticed after it happened again and again.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:52
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I think Machamp didn't do too well in the transition. His extra arms look really awkward.
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Thanks for the replies everyone. Hammerite posted:Braviary hasn't done well out of the transition to 3D. It was pretty cool looking in gen 5, but its 3D model has too long a neck - it makes it look dopey rather than impressive. It's a shame. Overall I think most pokemon look pretty good in 3D. Which others have bad-looking models? (excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor) Another Goon pointed out to me the other day that Rampardos did not exactly transition great to this game. Looks rather fat and not so intimidating: http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-xy/409.shtml
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Hammerite posted:Braviary hasn't done well out of the transition to 3D. It was pretty cool looking in gen 5, but its 3D model has too long a neck - it makes it look dopey rather than impressive. It's a shame. Overall I think most pokemon look pretty good in 3D. Which others have bad-looking models? (excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor)  Fox of Stone posted:Shouldn't the odds, assuming the parents have IV spreads that complement each other, still be (1/31)*(1/2)*(1/2) [hopefully that's the right calculation for the destiny knot to choose the correct IV in the parent that has the 31]? Am I just incredibly lucky or is that not how it's calculated it at all? You have a 1/6 chance of having the correct EV spread inherited from the parents, and then a 1/32 chance that the remaining IV will just randomly roll perfect, for a total of almost 1/200 chance of getting a Pokemon with six perfect IVs from two parents wtih five. You've just gotten really, really lucky.
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Hammerite posted:Braviary hasn't done well out of the transition to 3D. It was pretty cool looking in gen 5, but its 3D model has too long a neck - it makes it look dopey rather than impressive. It's a shame. Overall I think most pokemon look pretty good in 3D. Which others have bad-looking models? (excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor) Dragonite looks hideous with its pasted-on eyes. Drudiggon, on the other hand, looks so fantastic (his sprite in B/W was  )Edit: ^^^^ Archeops animation rules and I won't hear otherwise 
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Desperate Character posted:Dragonite looks hideous with its pasted-on eyes. Drudiggon, on the other hand, looks so fantastic (his sprite in B/W was Electrode's pasted-on eyes/face, however, are amazing.
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BattleCake posted:Thanks for the replies everyone. I think his chunkiness is quite endearing but his arms look really creepy. They're like tiny zombie arms.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:59
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gently caress you guys, Archeops was always a big doof and his 3D model is perfect.
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Nov 8, 2013 20:59
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Torkoal's omnidirectional sprite smoke is the worst looking thing in the game
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nippon nifties posted:Torkoal's omnidirectional sprite smoke is the worst looking thing in the game Oh, christ, I forgot about that. Yeah, that's loving awful.
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Eelektross just looks wrong now. It's a bit like Xatu where the orientation of the model doesn't make sense. It seems that they cut corners by reusing certain model positions, so Eelektross uses the "swimming" animation and Xatu uses the "cruising" animation. It's possible it was done for Sky Battles or something, but Xatu not standing up straight and keeping its wings folded is wrong and nothing about it will ever make it right.
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Nov 8, 2013 21:07
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I hadn't seen that yet, that's definitely the worst I've seen. Why does it have ankle muffs? The animation is super unimpressive, too. It looks like it's in a cartoon and the ground has just gone from under its feet and it's flailing its arms comically for a second or two before it falls.
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Nov 8, 2013 21:08
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I just miss Eelektross's awesome goofy dance. And Xatu should just float vertically. I really like Archeops though.
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Nov 8, 2013 21:08
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Hammerite posted:I hadn't seen that yet, that's definitely the worst I've seen. Why does it have ankle muffs? The animation is super unimpressive, too. It looks like it's in a cartoon and the ground has just gone from under its feet and it's flailing its arms comically for a second or two before it falls.
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Nov 8, 2013 21:09
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McDragon posted:I just miss Eelektross's awesome goofy dance. 
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Starsnostars posted:I think Machamp didn't do too well in the transition. His extra arms look really awkward. Yeah Machamp looks really ugly, and I wasn't bothered by him in any of the previous games. Not totally related, but I thought Malamar's goofy fin feet would be super distracting and ugly ingame but I don't mind them at all. Probably because the rest of his model looks amazing in 3D.
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Hammerite posted:I hadn't seen that yet, that's definitely the worst I've seen. Why does it have ankle muffs? The animation is super unimpressive, too. It looks like it's in a cartoon and the ground has just gone from under its feet and it's flailing its arms comically for a second or two before it falls. Archeops is the First Bird pokemon though. The animation makes sense to me as it's less flying and more leaping tall tyranitars in a single bound You're crazy if you hate those kicking rad 70s ankle muffs though. Maybe you need to get some more style points
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OK, so I'd like some advice on filling out my team. So far, I've got: Galvantula@Focus Sash Compound Eyes -Sticky Web -Thunder -Bug Buzz -Volt Switch Venusaur@Venusaurite Thick Fat -Leech Seed -Giga Drain -Synthesis -Toxic Slowbro@Leftovers Regenerator -Slack Off -Thunder Wave -Scald -Psychic Zoroark@Expert Belt Illusion -Taunt -Flamethrower -Night Daze -Shadow Ball Lucario@Life Orb Inner Focus -Swords Dance -Stone Edge -Close Combat -Extreme Speed I'm pretty much brand new to actual competitive battling so tear me apart. I need a sixth guy to round it out, and any corrections on glaring problems or type coverage I may have missed would be appreciated.
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I don't think anyone was a huge fan of it to start with, but Watchog didn't transition too gracefully, if you ask me. I didn't mind it in Black/White, but all of his limbs and his body got fatter in 3D, and he looks less like a meerkat/groundhog with these chubby forearms.
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A Pretentious Owl posted:I don't think anyone was a huge fan of it to start with, but Watchog didn't transition too gracefully, if you ask me. I didn't mind it in Black/White, but all of his limbs and his body got fatter in 3D, and he looks less like a meerkat/groundhog with these chubby forearms. I actually really liked Watchog when I got him in White, but he has loving awful stats and moves so I ditched him. His transition to 3D is awful, he doesn't look nearly as intimidating.
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I feel Sentret got the worse transition. It looks to fat to stand on it's tail like it did in every other gen.
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I decided to take my Battle Maison team to wi-fi heres my first match - VEPG-WWWW-WWW2-L7UP. Mega kangaskhan is a beast and I only used power up punch once.
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It's a great animation, but a lovely model. Considering what Xatu, Skarmory and Tropius got, it's a shame because they can really nail it if they want to.
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Nov 8, 2013 21:39
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I can't be sure but I think that's the same animation that Zubat and Woobat and Noibat use.
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Do you have a source for this and are there any more? I'd love a surskit gif.
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Hammerite posted:(excepting mons which look bad by design e.g. Garbodor) Garbodor looks amazing! Those things are massive.
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Unbound posted:I feel Sentret got the worse transition. It looks to fat to stand on it's tail like it did in every other gen. Sentret looks awful and not like the cute little guy who stood on his tail in other gens. I was really disappointed in how it looks. Someone else already mentioned it but I just saw a Tropius in my brother's friend safari today and thought it looked terrible. I know it's a flying type but just seeing it glide in place is ridiculous. Man I'm getting so tired of seeing Dragon/Dark/Steel type HPs on my Poliwag. 
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Garbodor looks amazing! Those things are massive. I really like the sense of scale the new models give. Nidoking is so much shorter than I always imagined. And Flabebe and Floette are just so goddamn tiny. Also Garbodor owns really hard and can only be appreciated by true trainers with a more refined palate.
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Doctor Reynolds posted:Garbodor looks amazing! Those things are massive. Garbodor for Pokemon of the Century.
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Denarius posted:Doesn't shiny gogoat have golden horns as well? This video shows it pretty well. Every picture I've seen of it didn't look golden to me. That looks more-so but it's definitely darker than Skiddo. Golgoat 13 must have the goldest of golden horns.
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Twelve by Pies posted:Man I'm getting so tired of seeing Dragon/Dark/Steel type HPs on my Poliwag. Emalde posted:It's actively harder since now that you can easily secure five 31s, you need to use less-capable parents to ensure you aren't stuck with HP Dark/Steel. If you are breeding 4V-5V pokemon, expect nothing other than those three.
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Also, Garbodor is one of the few pokemon whose cry sounds like their name.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Golgoat 13  Wish I thought of that myself. Doctor Reynolds posted:Also, Garbodor is one of the few pokemon whose cry sounds like their name.
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