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Yeah, their advertising effort has been pretty horrible. But so is complaining about them advertising to kids and not football, when the XBox is the official video game console of the NFL. Also, why would a system that has no sport games advertise on a football game?!?fivegears4reverse posted:You can't spin out excuses about the costs of advertising in the same thread where some of the most ardent defenders of the Wii U have been more than happy to trot out Nintendo's Bag Of Infinite Money That Exists Somewhere. It's not a bag of infinite money. It's their safety net to show people that if the Wii U fails they won't go bankrupt and start peddling smart phone apps, because they still have the cash to keep them afloat. Astro7x fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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Astro7x posted:It's not a bag of infinite money. It's their safety net to show people that if the Wii U fails they won't go bankrupt and start peddling smart phone apps, because they still have the cash to keep them afloat. At this point, it's a holding to keep their stock price up. Spending that money, decreasing their equity and shareholder value, at a time when the shareholders are already not too happy would be asinine. They're in a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation. They need to spend the money to be able to do better, but spending it will cause an immediate decrease in stock price. Really Nintendo's best bet right now is probably to finish what they are developing for Wii U, then focus on the 3DS and come at their next console with a different approach.
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You can't honestly be claiming that TV advertising is too expensive for a multinational corporation like Nintendo? They're not a startup, they're a multi-billion dollar company. There is a happy medium between advertising in the middle of a football game and solely advertising on kids shows. OLIVIAS WILDE RIDER posted:What's the American TV channel for people trapped in the early '90s? CNN? Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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Fulchrum posted:You can't honestly be claiming that TV advertising is too expensive for a multinational corporation like Nintendo? They're not a startup, they're a multi-billion dollar company. What? No. If you were talking to me I have no idea where the hell you got that from. The point of my post was to say that they aren't going to go on a spending spree with their retained earnings and why they aren't. I think they should do more advertising but they shouldn't, and won't, dump a sizable portion of their cash on hand on it. EDIT: While investor confidence is already low and their earnings are in the gutter.
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I think the reason that Wii U worked so poorly while Super Nintendo worked so well is that Nintendo put out a bunch of stuff like Wii Motion Plus, and the Wii Balance Board, not to mention naming a whole lot of games Wii ___ that it was assumed that putting a word after Wii just meant an add-on or game. Thats what I would guess for the confusion over Wii U but not previous consoles with meaningless names.
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Fulchrum posted:You can't honestly be claiming that TV advertising is too expensive for a multinational corporation like Nintendo? They're not a startup, they're a multi-billion dollar company. A better question is why they could get the Wii on Ellen and Oprah but so far only have got the Wii U on Jimmy Fallon. There are a thousand talk shows and so far they are non existant.
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Cliff Racer posted:I think the reason that Wii U worked so poorly while Super Nintendo worked so well is that Nintendo put out a bunch of stuff like Wii Motion Plus, and the Wii Balance Board, not to mention naming a whole lot of games Wii ___ that it was assumed that putting a word after Wii just meant an add-on or game. Thats what I would guess for the confusion over Wii U but not previous consoles with meaningless names. "Super" also indicates this is in the very least a much better Nintendo, and came with an advertising campaign. U indicates... stuff?
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MassRafTer posted:"Super" also indicates this is in the very least a much better Nintendo, and came with an advertising campaign. U indicates... stuff? It's the college that the normal Wiis graduated from.
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Cliff Racer posted:I think the reason that Wii U worked so poorly while Super Nintendo worked so well is that Nintendo put out a bunch of stuff like Wii Motion Plus, and the Wii Balance Board, not to mention naming a whole lot of games Wii ___ that it was assumed that putting a word after Wii just meant an add-on or game. Thats what I would guess for the confusion over Wii U but not previous consoles with meaningless names.
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Especially with the trend of rereleasing consoles that's cropped up more since the days of the sixth generation, and particularly within the seventh generation. Xbox 360 had, what, 3 or 4 models over its lifespan? The PS3 had the now obligatory slim variant, and then another after that. Add in the confusion that some had over the gamepad itself being the Wii U, and some people just didn't have reason to realise that the console was actually meant to be a new one.
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Wasper posted:Not to mention the fact that a super nintendo looked different from the console that came before it. There was no mistaking the VCR looking NES with the more traditional looking super nes. With the wii and wiiu, since they look similar, it's pretty easy to get them mixed up. It wasn't until this thread where I thought Wii U was a console attachment. Like Sega 32X. It should have been called Wii 2. I don't know if it's funny or sad Nintendo thinks the release of PS4 and XBone is good for them.
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CaptainHollywood posted:It wasn't until this thread where I thought Wii U was a console attachment. Like Sega 32X. It should have been called Wii 2. I don't know if it's funny or sad Nintendo thinks the release of PS4 and XBone is good for them. He was talking to investors, of course that's what he's going to say. Do you think he was going to get up there and say "Yeah, new consoles are going to kill us"?
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Mattavist posted:He was talking to investors, of course that's what he's going to say. Do you think he was going to get up there and say "Yeah, new consoles are going to kill us"? In that case I feel bad for the investors.
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Some good news for once. Wii U sales had a surge this past week in Japan. http://www.gamespot.com/articles/wii-u-sales-in-japan-surpass-ps3-vita-and-xbox-360-this-week/1100-6416036/
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Did they announce a new Dragon Quest game? What happened.
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No I think it was mostly because of the mario party game. Watch it be something like 10k this week and back to psp levels the week after that.
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Ka0 posted:Did they announce a new Dragon Quest game? What happened. A comment under a article posted:It sold better because of new bundles. The cheaper of the two bundles (priced 32,800 yen) includes New Super Mario Bros. U and Wii Party U. This sounds most plausible to me.
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I'm pretty sure it was discussed in this thread back when the numbers came out on Wednesday. There was a new bundle released this week that included NSMBU + Luigi DLC + Wii Party U for like $10 extra. Wii Party U on its own didn't do great.
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The 3DS dropped a lot though.
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Probably still coming down off the Pokemon high. There isn't that much time until the Christmas bump peaks, it will be interesting to watch the NA/EU numbers over the next two months.
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Wii U might not really be the chosen platform for Call of Duty: Ghosts, but still:Eurogamer posted:UK chart: COD Ghosts top, more copies sold on PS4 than Wii U Being outsold on a console which hasn't even been released is pretty bad.
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Iacen posted:Wii U might not really be the chosen platform for Call of Duty: Ghosts, but still: Oof. It's a real rough week for the Wii U in the UK. On top of that CoD stuff the NSMBU + Luigi U bundle barely sold at all and Mario and Sonic at the Olympics ultra bombed (debuted as the 10th best selling Wii U game of the week  )I don't see a turnaround happening there. e: That 1% of Call of Duty sales was mostly physical PC sales. The Wii U version sold so few copies it didn't even get a mention in the weekly splits: http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/nov/11/top-20-video-games Crowbear fucked around with this message at 17:14 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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To further put that in perspective, CoD Ghosts for PC has Steamworks, which means that buying it in a store means you still have to activate it on Steam and usually have a pretty substantial download, so there's no reason to buy it in a retail store. The Wii U version was outsold by something that has no purpose for existing.
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Wait, this this actually surprising to people? Considering the Wii U only makes up about 2% of all the consoles sold between the PS3 and 360, and this is in the UK which is not exactly Nintendo's top market (US and Japan make up 75% of those systems sold). Just to put it into perspective...
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Astro7x posted:Wait, this this actually surprising to people? Considering the Wii U only makes up about 2% of all the consoles sold between the PS3 and 360, and this is in the UK which is not exactly Nintendo's top market (US and Japan make up 75% of those systems sold). The PS4 currently makes up 0% of all consoles sold and its version of CoD outsold the Wii U version by at least a factor of 6. But yes, the UK is not big on Nintendo in general. Should be fun to see the splits in the November NPD.
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Crowbear posted:But yes, the UK is not big on Nintendo in general. I think the 2/3DS sells pretty well here, although the official sales tracking doesn't release actual numbers. Welp:  edit: that offer expires in 4 hours Edmund Honda fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 11, 2013 |
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Edmund Honda posted:I think the 2/3DS sells pretty well here, although the official sales tracking doesn't release actual numbers. If I still had time and money to frivolously buy gaming consoles that would've gotten me on board.
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I just saw a commercial on TV for Super Mario 3D World in which it showed a family of 4 playing the game together, and at least a couple of them had GamePads. Aren't the GamePads not even sold separately?
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I just saw a commercial on TV for Super Mario 3D World in which it showed a family of 4 playing the game together, and at least a couple of them had GamePads. Are you sure? This is the US commercial. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBbcUQyvXQw They are using a Game Pad, the red Mario themed Wiimote, the green Luigi themed remote, and a black Wii Motion Plus.
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Astro7x posted:Are you sure? This is the US commercial. It still looks goofy as gently caress for all of them to be holding Wii controllers and then that one kid is holding this big bulky son of a bitch. The version of the commercial I saw also had "Wii U system now only $299" at the end of it, which is probably one of the big reasons these things aren't selling.
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So is this game for the Wii addon? I'm still confused.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:I just saw a commercial on TV for Super Mario 3D World in which it showed a family of 4 playing the game together, and at least a couple of them had GamePads. No, the gamepad is still only available as a bundle with the WiiU compatible Wii.
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WiiU doing this bad in the UK is just long overdue comeuppance.
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This isn't Wii U related, but Nintendo released a Zelda: Link Between Two Worlds commercial and it is old school as gently caress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVoq1H9yLMI LInk to the Past commercial from 1992 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzgrgPnbbZY
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Astro7x posted:This isn't Wii U related, but Nintendo released a Zelda: Link Between Two Worlds commercial and it is old school as gently caress I like the original better  This is still one of my favourite pieces of Nintendo marketing ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2JtKyAJrf4
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Its actually getting sad at this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qg9QoCB3Rx8&t=151s
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CaptainHollywood posted:This is still one of my favourite pieces of Nintendo marketing ever: This is really funny... I think I want to buy this game.
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