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Dirt posted:I guess I am just not able to see the tyranny all around me. Must be my job, and free time hobbies keeping me from seeing how oppressed I truly am. I'm 100% convinced this poo poo is a form of cosplay/roleplay. But instead of dressing up as anime characters, people dress up as members of the noble revolutionary underground.
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CarterUSM posted:Amazingly enough, when you ensure that people's basic needs and ability to self-actualize will be provided, you tend to have a high rate of education, entrepreneurship, and standard of living. Who knew?!* It's been surprisingly effective to make this point to my super conservative business-loving family members. "I can't start my own business because I require expensive monthly treatment for a disease I was born with and cannot go without insurance for even one day. PPACA might make this possible depending on how expensive the individual plans are. Joining every other first world nation in having single payer would have allowed me to be an entrepreneur as soon as I had my idea. Instead I have to hope nobody else comes up with the idea and also its such an awesome idea and look at how the lack of single payer health care is not only preventing my from making a gazillion dollars but denying society access to my brilliant product and consequently lowering the standard of living everyone might otherwise have!" Edit: I should clarify that its effective for the 5 minutes you're having the conversation. They will no doubt continue to post stupid poo poo on facebook as though nothing happened, but you might get your cousins/siblings/other onlookers to reconsider their views! Farrok fucked around with this message at 22:16 on Nov 7, 2013 |
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Nov 7, 2013 22:13
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Farrok posted:It's been surprisingly effective to make this point to my super conservative business-loving family members. "I can't start my own business because I require expensive monthly treatment for a disease I was born with and cannot go without insurance for even one day. PPACA might make this possible depending on how expensive the individual plans are. Joining every other first world nation in having single payer would have allowed me to be an entrepreneur as soon as I had my idea. Instead I have to hope nobody else comes up with the idea and also its such an awesome idea and look at how the lack of single payer health care is not only preventing my from making a gazillion dollars but denying society access to my brilliant product and consequently lowering the standard of living everyone might otherwise have!" Everyone knows the first part of bootstrappin' is being born to the right set of parents, with the right genes. I read somewhere (SOME PEOPLE SAY...) a while ago that despite the belief that self-employment is dominated by young, healthy early twenty-somethings, the age threshold with the highest level of entrepreneurship in the U.S. is when people hit 65. All of a sudden they get that sweet government Social Security and Medicare cheddar and they know that their basic needs are taken care of, so they don't have to grind out a job they've grown to loathe just to make sure they can survive. Found it (or something similar): BloombergBusinessWeek posted:For example, looking at 2003 Census data, those 65 and over had a total self-employment rate of 26.9 percent, calculates Edward G. Rogoff, economist at Baruch College, City University of New York. The comparable figure for those 25 to 34 years of age is 7.2 percent.
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Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:Guys. She's watched Dr. Zhivago. She got this. It is pretty disheartening to see one of my favorite teachers in high school turn into an ultra right wing parody. Ugh, now I'm remembering in high school drama class when we were reading the play "Fences" out loud. It's full of the N-word because it's about a black family, and when I got to the first line with the word in it, I stopped. She then told the class how it was totally okay for me to say it in this context blah blah blah. I still feel dirty now, knowing what a closet racist she basically is. She also posted about how it's hard dealing with all the nasty things people call her for being a conservative Christian, and how mean people are when they find out she home schools her kids. She home schools them because she's become terrified of the world outside of her megachurch. Ugh.
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Nov 7, 2013 22:44
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Nov 7, 2013 23:21
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Wow he got all that information just from a picture.
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sweart gliwere posted:I've known some who got pretty testy about that (and early childhood church attendance), even though they lived irreligiously. The reasoning was "well better safe than sorry" because there might not be a god, but if there is it's totally Jesus for some reason. Probably didn't help that the whole middle-aged physique thing was coming to fruition and a bunch of their friends were turning back to church as they grew older. Both sets of my grandparents insisted that my brother and I were baptized. I remember reading some stupid pulp horror book as a kid, where evil druids sacrificed children to their fire god, and it kept them from aging. At one point in the book, they stole a baby, BUT someone had baptized the baby beforehand, so the sacrifice couldn't be made (the fire god said her soul was already claimed or some poo poo), so as a kid, I was relieved that if the book somehow WAS real and druids would really try to kill me, then I'd be safe. On another note, my friend with the year-old twins who insisted on getting off food stamps (even if they'd suffer for a while, it was worth it to her not to have that cursed EBT card anymore) posted some Chris Rock meme that 'some parents' out there are letting their teenagers have sleepovers with both boys AND girls, and in my day my parents would have never let that happen! So tempted to post back that if I had kids, I would have a straight talk about sex ed, masturbation, kinds of rape, etc, and not lie about birth control, virginity, or STDs. I would be honest. And if I had a son, he would have plenty of condoms to try and practice with, and if I had a daughter, she would be on birth control. And if they wanted to have an approved boyfriend or girlfriend over, that would be fine. I'd rather them be at home and safe than at a frat party or drinking illegally. Home and safe. Under my roof. But she'd just tell me that when I have kids, I would understand her worry! No, if I ever had kids, I would teach them that sex is normal, natural, and there is nothing wrong with it, as long as everyone is mature and consents. I would not, as she said about her daughters, laugh at my child's face and tell them to wait till they moved out to even THINK about that kind of sleepover. Then again she's the one who also insists that girls who dress sexy have no self-esteem. Don't even start her on girls who wear short 'booty gently caress me shorts' or bikinis. I feel for her girls. And I hope both of them grow up with great self esteem and become porn stars.
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Nov 7, 2013 23:33
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McDowell posted:Wow he got all that information just from a picture. From here, apparently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UREepszk7I
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Nov 7, 2013 23:38
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AShamefulDisplay posted:From here, apparently Jesus Christ, I read the comments and now I hate everyone again. Also, not much context in that video.
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Nov 8, 2013 00:04
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There's a guy a know who posts every incredibly lame, hyper ironic, by-the-(Fox News)-book standard Republican rants/memes/letters to the editor bullcrap. These worry me more than the crazy ones, because usually other people (even if they agree with the rant in general) will back you in making fun of the burning crazy. For instance, almost none of the following could be remotely blamed on any President or Congress, and yet, anyone who agrees with the poster, will agree with this post, their mind melting with cognitive dissonance, and wonder how Obama hosed things up so much. And then go vote Republican again. (The same applies with weakass Democrat ones too.) However, this one is great because you will immediately start to keep track of all the things the government already does to provide for a person in this situation, and how many of those things get lambasted by the same people posting this poo poo. http://www.ijreview.com/2013/11/92023-must-read-texas-single-moms-viral-thank-letter-obama/ quote:Dear President Obama,
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AShamefulDisplay posted:From here, apparently Does this look fake to anyone else? Not that I'm doubting welfare fraud (it is not a problem of any significance) but there's nothing to substantiate any of this. I can't even find a source for the video. Kinda funny if this catches on among the False Flag set.
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Nov 8, 2013 00:08
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I am almost certain I saw a version of that in the early 2000's addressed to Bush Jr....
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Nov 8, 2013 00:13
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Yep, found the source video. Sourcing that would flunk a high school paper manages to pass the Freshman English Film Festival at the University of Texas at El Paso. http://filmfestival.uglc.utep.edu/?p=751 I guessed that Keshia Flanders played the role of Kiara, given that these students were unlikely to actually find and truthfully interview a welfare recipient of this magnitude, but was unable to confirm this.
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Nov 8, 2013 00:42
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Wow, I'll bet she sure is living the high life on <$15,000 a year with four kids. Christ, there are places in this country that a single person couldn't survive by themselves on fourteen grand and change, much less raise four children. If this is true (it isn't), it's not an indictment of 'welfare queens', it's an indictment of our incredibly loving weak social safety nets that don't give people anything close to what they need to actually survive.
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Nov 8, 2013 01:30
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Popular Thug Drink posted:Yep, found the source video. Sourcing that would flunk a high school paper manages to pass the Freshman English Film Festival at the University of Texas at El Paso. Wow. I love the stock graphics templates on top of the use of facebook memes. The whole thing makes the film student in me loving livid.
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Mister Bates posted:Wow, I'll bet she sure is living the high life on <$15,000 a year with four kids. I don't know how true the stat is, but billboards all around Phoenix say that 4 in 10 AZ kids go to bed without dinner, and many don't get a breakfast unless it's by school cafeteria. And all that makes me do, other than be sure to stuff some bags full of food to leave at the donation bins at the grocery store, is wonder how many kids I see on a daily basis, gently caress, how many people, who don't get enough to eat, and no one loving knows. I look at my cupboards with food filled in, and think, poo poo, I would give you at least enough to make a few days of meals out of if not more. I remember there was a goon who posted a few years ago, who happened to live near me, who had several kids, had lost his home, and his military benefits hadn't kicked in. I wasn't able to send much, but sent him a small box of food. I wish I could have done more, I wish he'd said it was his daughter's birthday so I could have sent her something, even cupcakes. I don't say this to get kudos, I say it because there are goons on the forums here who are probably homeless or don't have enough to eat, and there are people you see at work or school who are hungry all the time, and no one loving knows and it drives me up the loving wall when I think about all the food that we throw away to prevent 'employee theft.'
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follow that camel!! posted:The poem was written by a Marine Corps Officer This work of fiction in no way resembles the events of September 11th in Benghazi. It does, however, illustrate what your average conservative thinks happened.
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Joshmo posted:There's a guy a know who posts every incredibly lame, hyper ironic, by-the-(Fox News)-book standard Republican rants/memes/letters to the editor bullcrap. These worry me more than the crazy ones, because usually other people (even if they agree with the rant in general) will back you in making fun of the burning crazy. For instance, almost none of the following could be remotely blamed on any President or Congress, and yet, anyone who agrees with the poster, will agree with this post, their mind melting with cognitive dissonance, and wonder how Obama hosed things up so much. And then go vote Republican again. (The same applies with weakass Democrat ones too.) Mister Obama I have some questions about Obamacare, and they are [series of unrelated questions]
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TerminalSaint posted:This work of fiction in no way resembles the events of September 11th in Benghazi. It does, however, illustrate what your average conservative thinks happened. Wants or needs to have happened, really.
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Mister Bates posted:Wow, I'll bet she sure is living the high life on <$15,000 a year with four kids. Even if this was true, not like she could easily work some low-wage job anyway depending on the ages of her kids. She'd likely lose a good portion of her benefits if she held a full time job, but wouldn't be able to afford constant daycare if any of her kids aren't old enough yet to be in school during the day and take care of themselves if they get home while she's still at work.
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Nov 8, 2013 11:46
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I love how they say that none of the kids' fathers are paying child support as if that's somehow supposed to make you hate her more.
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Nov 8, 2013 11:51
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So there are four grown men without jobs who are failing to support their children, but let's shame the single mother who is utilizing the only resource left to her so that her children don't starve to death. I hear these stories everyday from my father. He is unfortunately exposed to it much more than the rest of the country as he works in child support enforcement. If the GOP needs more anecdotes about welfare queens and deadbeat dads, my father would be a never ending source.
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Mornacale posted:I love how they say that none of the kids' fathers are paying child support as if that's somehow supposed to make you hate her more. Don't focus on THAT man. She hung around enough with these guys that shy let them take the risk of impregnating her, it's clearly HER fault she's caused the situation that resulted in him leaving. She wears it like a loving badge on her brownie outfit.
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Grem posted:Don't focus on THAT man. She hung around enough with these guys that shy let them take the risk of impregnating her, it's clearly HER fault she's caused the situation that resulted in him leaving. She wears it like a loving badge on her brownie outfit. You think you're joking, but the political cartoons thread has taught me that's what the right actually believes.  
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VitalSigns posted:You think you're joking, but the political cartoons thread has taught me that's what the right actually believes. My God that guy is a terrible artist. I'm pretty sharp, and it took a good 3-4 times reading through that to figure out what the hell was going on. I want those 30 seconds of my life back.
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TwoQuestions posted:My God that guy is a terrible artist. I'm pretty sharp, and it took a good 3-4 times reading through that to figure out what the hell was going on. I want those 30 seconds of my life back. "Artist". He photoshops over porn pics.
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TwoQuestions posted:My God that guy is a terrible artist. I'm pretty sharp, and it took a good 3-4 times reading through that to figure out what the hell was going on. I want those 30 seconds of my life back. You were just going to waste those 30seconds in here complaining about some racist relative's latest email anyway. Oh God what am I doing with my life 
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Mornacale posted:I love how they say that none of the kids' fathers are paying child support as if that's somehow supposed to make you hate her more. The best part about that bit is, if you watch the video where this (pretty much fictional at this point) information comes from, it makes no mention of the father of her kids. So they basically took that image of that woman in the video, slapped on some info from the video, then added some extra bullshit to make it seem even worse. It's basically pure strain dog whistle racism all wrapped up in one lovely artefacted image.
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LunarShadow posted:"Artist". He photoshops over porn pics. Greg Land does political pieces now?
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I just found out my insurance covers hypertension, sickle cell anemia and focal segmental glomerulosclerosis. What the gently caress, I'm not black. Thanks Obama.
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After getting called out for some rather silly sounding conspiracy theory about girls and boys showering together Grandma continues to ramble like a crazy person.Grandma posted:I heard it on the radio and they have been talking about it at church and heard it again last night, this is going to be in California not here and I don’t know why Amy Klobuchar would have anything to do with it since it is in California but apparently who ever Dave talked to said she was somehow. If I wouldn’t have heard it on the radio twice I would question it too but maybe because it is in California they aren’t bothering to report it until they see if it passes and we have our own political stuff going on, and if you have ever noticed our paper is very pro-gay so you hear all about what they consider good but rarely anything bad. I suppose one of Amy’s daughters could be gay, I really have no idea, for all that maybe Dave got it wrong. It is the gay coalition that is pushing this, like you said why would “anyone” want that. EDIT: FYI Forum Communications flagship paper refused to run a gay marriage announcement in 2010. Casimir Radon fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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This fantastically misogynistic article just popped up on my Facebook today. It includes wonderful quotes such as quote:It has always bugged me the way women commoditise their bodies: slathering on cosmetics, changing their hair colour, getting boob jobs, injecting botox into their faces and the list goes on and on. Apart from the fact we’re told we men should not objectify women when women clearly are the biggest sexual objectifiers of their bodies, I found myself worried that such women have no honour. quote:For me as a man, I look at a woman’s body and her features to guage how healthy she is physically and if she would produce good children for me because frankly I’m shopping for a good mother for my children. Sure, once I’ve ascertained that the woman in question is healthy and well-formed, then I’ll worry about her IQ and maternal temperament, but I make no apologies for selecting out the biologically weak women because this is my children’s future and a good parent cares about the future they give their children. quote:This woman committed fraud and I feel for the poor husband here. He obviously was looking out for the best interests of his children when he selected this woman, meanwhile she was only thinking about the best interests of herself. This woman frankly should not have been able to reproduce because she’s the carrier of genetic refuse. He goes on to conflate "ugliness" with disease and down syndrome, and he ends the article with this absolute gem. quote:Beauty is not skin deep, it’s in your genes and if you think otherwise you’re the shallow one here. Nevermind that the lawsuit in question is probably false. Verisimilidude fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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'If it's on the radio it must be true!' Poor Grandma, trapped in the same mass media thrall as millions of Americans. Maybe she is misinterpreting the story about a trans student that proved to not be true at all?
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Dirty Job posted:This fantastically misogynistic article just popped up on my Facebook today. Written by /r/ redpill
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In reference to single payer:quote:They can't even get a website to work, and the solution is more responsibility? Can anyone give me a fast pithy gently caress You to counter this bullshit?
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AShamefulDisplay posted:In reference to single payer: There's 50 million people on Medicare. We could have easily expanded it, but instead we decided to kludge a bunch of stuff together in order to give handouts to insurance companies.
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Maybe it's time for a conservative approach. Let's find something that we know works well, like Medicare. We spend a lot of money on some 65 year-olds because they've never had health insurance prior to getting Medicare. We can cut costs by lowering the eligibility age by 10 years. That'll be ten years where we can catch cancers before it's expensive. Remember the old Conservative maxim, a stitch in time saves nine. To save even more money, we should make sure that every child in America is covered from conception till they're 18. Maybe longer if they're in college. This will ensure that no child has to take responsibility for their parents actions. Kids don't get to pick their parents, any true conservative would agree that every citizen deserves to start their life as a productive citizen with a fair start. As a conservative, we need to get serious about the VA. It's expensive, but part of fiscal responsibility is paying your debts. We owe our veterans good healthcare, even after they get out of the military. If you managed to survive your enlistment, you shouldn't die from a preventable disease a few years later because you're having a hard time making it in the civilian world. Every conservative should support VA medical care for all veterans, regardless of disability status. As a conservative, I don't believe in punishing our most responsible citizens. Let's picture a hard working 22 year old, he's been out of school for a few years and he's at the bottom of the ladder. He's learning the value of hard work. Maybe he's working two jobs at 20 hours apiece. This young man has two paths when it comes to medical care. He can be a mooch, if his appendix hurts he can wait until it bursts and get emergency care, shifting the cost onto the rest of us. OR he can be responsible and get regular checkups and preventive care, catching the problem when it's cheap to fix. I think it's our responsibility as conservatives to build a system that rewards responsible people. If you want to get regular checkups and preventive care but you can't afford it yet, we should pick up the tab. Young citizens like that will be paying their fair share of taxes soon enough, we might as well give them some benefit for it.
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Maybe it's time for a conservative approach. Let's find something that we know works well, like Medicare. We spend a lot of money on some 65 year-olds because they've never had health insurance prior to getting Medicare. We can cut costs by lowering the eligibility age by 10 years. That'll be ten years where we can catch cancers before it's expensive. Remember the old Conservative maxim, a stitch in time saves nine. Sorry, Senator, but you just lost the primary. Also, you've been declared an enemy of Reagan because
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Remember the old Conservative maxim, a stitch in time saves nine. But you can make a lot more money doing the 9 stitches.
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