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Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Kuso Meriken posted:

I'm in the Wizard part now and all the same feelings are coming back. I like Haruto and the fight choreography is actually pretty sweet but everything else around it is just not captivating. (And who is Poitrine...oh...what?)

My unrealistic dream is that Gentaro shows up and befriends all the Wizard characters and somehow they all instantly become incredibly likable and interesting.

And yes I'm watching this very slowly. Between having an 8 month old and work it's hard to indulge in my foreign children's programming.

Well Beast is about as close as you can get to Gentaro unfortunately. That being said, I would watch a show featuring both of them.

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Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Xelkelvos posted:

Well Beast is about as close as you can get to Gentaro unfortunately. That being said, I would watch a show featuring both of them.
Perhaps it could even make Nitou relevant to the whole story instead of just awkwardly fitting him into episodes and making him important two episodes before the finale!

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

ImpAtom posted:

I like the Fourze part of the movie but I really can't enjoy the rest of it when it involves boring-rear end Haruto beating up the Akumaizers.

Similarly, it's why I prefer Mega Max to Ultimatum. Also because Ultimatum creeped me out everytime it focused on the schoolgirl skirts. There is plenty of Japanese schoolgirl pornography I can download, I don't need creepy voyeur camera shots in my tokusatsu.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

V-Men posted:

Similarly, it's why I prefer Mega Max to Ultimatum. Also because Ultimatum creeped me out everytime it focused on the schoolgirl skirts. There is plenty of Japanese schoolgirl pornography I can download, I don't need creepy voyeur camera shots in my tokusatsu.

You must have a hard time watching Kyoryuger

Raizor
Apr 23, 2012

DIGITAL

Dr Tran posted:

You must have a hard time watching Kyoryuger

Ultimatum is loving full of thigh and leg and rear end shots of characters in and out of suits all with very audible accompanying sparkle and twinkle sound effects. Similar shots aren't nearly as common or overt in Kyoryuger.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally




Raizor posted:

Ultimatum is loving full of thigh and leg and rear end shots of characters in and out of suits all with very audible accompanying sparkle and twinkle sound effects. Similar shots aren't nearly as common or overt in Kyoryuger.

The those scenes in Ultimatum were the worst part of that movie.

V-Men
Aug 15, 2001

Don't it make your dick bust concrete to be in the same room with two noble, selfless public servants.

Dr Tran posted:

You must have a hard time watching Kyoryuger

I gave up after episode 2. It wasn't bad, but I found the all the intense sound effects grating.

Kuso Meriken
Jun 30, 2007

HKR posted:

The those scenes in Ultimatum were the worst part of that movie.

Everything without a character from Fourze was the worst part. I would have been satisfied if the movie had ended after the first hour.

I honestly didn't notice or focus on the skirt stuff. Perhaps I'm jaded after watching Japanese stuff for 20 years. My wife who doesn't even like it acknolwedges it's an unfortunate aspect that comes with the hobby. Hence I'm able to watch Kill La Kill in the living room and she knows I'm watching it for the action scenes.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

This may be better suited for the TVIV, but since it deals with Goseiger, I figured here would be fine too. Anyone watching Megaforce still? I caught up today, and there was a pretty fantastic moment. In episode 11, where they get the Goseiger Super Mode (never saw Seiger), there's a monster that summons previously defeated monster. The problem is, only one of the five he summons is from an episode that wasn't cut. Then, sure enough, the Halloween special comes around and the monster in it turns out to be one of the ones that was supposedly already dead! I guess I shouldn't be expecting too much continuity in a show that's almost over but is still using a villain from the first 15 episodes of the source material. I'm sure that'll be a real climactic final battle.

I only just started watching Megaforce, just finished episode 2. Netflix only has like 13 episodes or something up, is that all that there are or is Netflix just slow in putting them up? Seeing as how it's only two episodes in, there isn't any continuity problems yet and I'm surprised by how not completely terrible it is. The guy playing the red ranger is bland as gently caress and has no personality or even really any screen time yet, I think that's my biggest complaint. Also a bit annoyed by the fact that they didn't seem to recognize or have even heard of the other Power Rangers, since this series is already setting up Gokaiger's adaptation. It's not like Ninja Storm where at first it seemed to be set somewhere where the other Rangers didn't exist.

And why make Vrak's bat things robots? That doesn't make any sense to me.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Also, it was pretty funny to find out that the friendly robot they saved in the last episode actually exploded at the end of the Goseiger episode. Which was 41 of 50, as I believe will be followed up by 15. Goddamn that's some selective editing.

I heard that the overall plot line was really weird in Megaforce, like Vrak "switches forms" or something when he hangs around the second set of baddies? And 15 is where Warstar is brought down, I assume that the Yuma Beasts are working for them or something?

Wait, 41 would be way deep into the Matrintis arc, how do they reconcile the fact that he's a half-cyborg dude?

Justin_Brett
Oct 23, 2012

GAMERDOME put down LOSER
I assume they'll cut that part of him out and just have him be a regular ol' alien with a super form for the final battle.

Considering they're willing to change stuff around, maybe they'll actually improve Gokaiger's set of villains?

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

I'll just leave this here. Slight movie "spoiler" I guess but who cares. Gaim can do no wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/HGiGUWK.jpg

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~

RBX posted:

I'll just leave this here. Slight movie "spoiler" I guess but who cares. Gaim can do no wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/HGiGUWK.jpg

That's hilarious

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Twelve by Pies posted:

I only just started watching Megaforce, just finished episode 2. Netflix only has like 13 episodes or something up, is that all that there are or is Netflix just slow in putting them up? Seeing as how it's only two episodes in, there isn't any continuity problems yet and I'm surprised by how not completely terrible it is. The guy playing the red ranger is bland as gently caress and has no personality or even really any screen time yet, I think that's my biggest complaint. Also a bit annoyed by the fact that they didn't seem to recognize or have even heard of the other Power Rangers, since this series is already setting up Gokaiger's adaptation. It's not like Ninja Storm where at first it seemed to be set somewhere where the other Rangers didn't exist.

And why make Vrak's bat things robots? That doesn't make any sense to me.

I heard that the overall plot line was really weird in Megaforce, like Vrak "switches forms" or something when he hangs around the second set of baddies? And 15 is where Warstar is brought down, I assume that the Yuma Beasts are working for them or something?

Wait, 41 would be way deep into the Matrintis arc, how do they reconcile the fact that he's a half-cyborg dude?

Megaforce actually has some moments of tolerability, if not becoming legitimately enjoyable for short segments. Which is a lot more than I can say about anything in the carbon-copy-sans-the-heart that was Samurai. (Though I appreciated Blue trying to channel some of Ryuunosuke.) It could certainly be a lot worse, but it could also be a lot better, which becomes much more noticeable when Troy/Red is able to cut back on the super serious leader type and actually try to act like a human being. I think the other rangers besides him do the best with what they have to work with and are able to carry the show to a degree.

As for Vrak, yeah, they don't even try to explain why sometimes he's blue and sometimes he's brown. He just changes back and forth willy-nilly, depending on what footage they need of him. The boss of the Warstar is still around as of the latest episode (I think he dies in the next one) so he's just inexplicably in his Chupacabra/"Earth Armor" form whenever the Yumajuu/Mutants are responsible for the monster of the week. I think they must have reshot or have very selectively edited the Metal Alice scenes though, because he hasn't been shown as a robot at all yet. I believe that may happen soon though, according to the spoilers from the French episodes.

I think Vrak's bat things have only recently become robots though. "Zombots" now, "Zombats" before. Robot puns.

EDIT: A little research says that yeah, Vrak and Metal Alice's scenes are all original. They hang out in an underwater base for whatever reason, I'm not sure what the set-up was in Goseiger.

RBX posted:

I'll just leave this here. Slight movie "spoiler" I guess but who cares. Gaim can do no wrong.

http://i.imgur.com/HGiGUWK.jpg
This is going to be so great. Is that the Luna Dopant Ryugen-OOOs is fighting?

Cipher Pol 9 fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Nov 8, 2013

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.

Cipher Pol 9 posted:


EDIT: A little research says that yeah, Vrak and Metal Alice's scenes are all original. They hang out in an underwater base for whatever reason, I'm not sure what the set-up was in Goseiger.
They had an underwater base in Goseiger too because The Matrix + Atlantis = Matrantis.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Fezz posted:

They had an underwater base in Goseiger too because The Matrix + Atlantis = Matrantis.

I hear a lot of hate for Goseiger, but it has some awesome names. I mean, the main bad guy is named after Bladerunner for the most part. I kind of second-hand dislike it for how bland the Goseigers looked in the first Gokaiger VS movie, but it's hard to look good when compared to the Gokaigers. I may have to give it a try sometime, if just for the names.

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
Well, I only had TV Nihon subs to go by, but I enjoyed it. The two best characters are Buredoran aka BLADERUN aka Brajira (the movie Brazil) and Gosei Knight.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

I hear a lot of hate for Goseiger, but it has some awesome names. I mean, the main bad guy is named after Bladerunner for the most part. I kind of second-hand dislike it for how bland the Goseigers looked in the first Gokaiger VS movie, but it's hard to look good when compared to the Gokaigers. I may have to give it a try sometime, if just for the names.

Goseiger is a good show. It has a lot of problems but it's generally a solid show which has the biggest 'problem' of just being giant super-optimistic kid's television. It's very cheerful, good-natured and friendly in a way that a lot of the stuff around it isn't and reminds me more of the 90s Sentai than anything from the 00s.

The TVN subs are crap and you should watch the new ones that come out. One of the odds things about Goseiger is that it's a pretty subtle show. There's a lot of plot threads and plot ideas which don't come across clearly at first blush and only become apparent later. A good chunk of what happens with Gosei Knight's character arc and with Bladerun's stuff is pretty underplayed. Even if TVN hadn't been TVN, the sub-as-it-comes-out subs could have easily screwed some of that up just because they lacked the proper foreknowledge to correctly translate certain things.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Nov 8, 2013

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

I hear a lot of hate for Goseiger, but it has some awesome names. I mean, the main bad guy is named after Bladerunner for the most part. I kind of second-hand dislike it for how bland the Goseigers looked in the first Gokaiger VS movie, but it's hard to look good when compared to the Gokaigers. I may have to give it a try sometime, if just for the names.

His name might be based off Bladerunner but you can't even tell in the show unless you have subtitles on because of how atrocious the actors' English speaking abilities are.

Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

EDIT: A little research says that yeah, Vrak and Metal Alice's scenes are all original. They hang out in an underwater base for whatever reason, I'm not sure what the set-up was in Goseiger.

Huh, that makes sense, since they'd have to have the suits around anyway for when the baddies interact with the Rangers unmorphed. Anyway, quick spoilers about the third arc of Goseiger.

Buredoran actually gets killed when the Yuuma Beasts are beaten. At about that time, I don't remember if their defeat triggers it somehow, some robot dude from an ancient kingdom that sank into the sea is resurrected. After showing up, Metal Alice finds Buredoran's body and makes him into a cyborg, with his memory wiped but still stored on disk separately.

This is one thing Goseiger isn't super clear on. Buredoran is seemingly definitely killed with the Yuuma Beasts, his memory was fairly clearly gone, and only returned to him when Metal Alice later on gives it back. But Buredoran acts like this was his plan all along or something when they confront him after Matrintis is defeated, and that he was never really killed or that his memory was ever actually gone. He could have just been bullshitting them but he wouldn't have really had any reason to.


It is a bit disappointing that they changed his character so much for Megaforce though. Finding out his true identity in Goseiger after he kept popping up with both new enemy factions was pretty cool and one of the better parts of Goseiger for sure. I guess I won't badmouth Goseiger too much, it wasn't terrible but it really does seem like a step down from Shinkenger. People seemed to really hate Alata but I didn't mind him at all.

ImpAtom posted:

Even if TVN hadn't been TVN, the sub-as-it-comes-out subs could have easily screwed some of that up just because they lacked the proper foreknowledge to correctly translate certain things.

Yeah I remember this happened at least once prominently with OT's subs of Go-Busters where J talked about strikes in an earlier episode and they translated it a bit differently, and then in a later episode there was a callback to it and they were like "Well poo poo."

Potsticker
Jan 14, 2006


And more famously GoBuster-Oh and GoBuster King.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Twelve by Pies posted:

This is one thing Goseiger isn't super clear on. Buredoran is seemingly definitely killed with the Yuuma Beasts, his memory was fairly clearly gone, and only returned to him when Metal Alice later on gives it back. But Buredoran acts like this was his plan all along or something when they confront him after Matrintis is defeated, and that he was never really killed or that his memory was ever actually gone. He could have just been bullshitting them but he wouldn't have really had any reason to.

Bladerun's primary thing is that he is a giant prideful liar. He lies constantly about everything. He is bullshitting because that is what he does. He is the Messiah and so clearly he can't be a giant fuckup who got killed because he underestimated the UMA. He is not actually as awesome as he thinks he is but he will be hosed if he lets anyone else know that.

Bladerun at first glance looks like a Just As Planned mastermind but if you actually follow his arc through the show, it becomes clear he's doing a lot of bullshitting and rapidly adapting his plans on the fly every time they get hosed up. He's still a threat because he's pretty good at coming up with new plans but in the end he's really just a big overconfident liar.

ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Nov 8, 2013

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

ImpAtom posted:

he can't be a giant fuckup who got killed because he underestimated the UMA.

If I remember correctly he fully admitted to underestimating the UMA or Goseigers and dieing because of it, with only luck getting him revived.

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!

Perigryn
Oct 22, 2010

TaJaaaaadoruuuuu

SpazmasterX posted:

That's hilarious
Over the past couple of weeks, I've been slowly introducing my nieces to the joys of toku. When I showed them Ryugen's henshin, the youngest one said "He looks like Double". Then a few days later, I showed her that image and she started laughing so hard lol

Baofu
Jun 15, 2007


Good god, can't this meme just die already?

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

Its forever funny and relevant though.

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

I hear a lot of hate for Goseiger, but it has some awesome names. I mean, the main bad guy is named after Bladerunner for the most part. I kind of second-hand dislike it for how bland the Goseigers looked in the first Gokaiger VS movie, but it's hard to look good when compared to the Gokaigers. I may have to give it a try sometime, if just for the names.
Just don't do the TV-N version.

Kuso Meriken
Jun 30, 2007
I'm catching up on Kyouryuger, on 16 now. It's weird,maybe I'm a changed man after having my first child, but goddamn do I really enjoy the videos of kids dancing. It's pure joy & innocence next to robot dinosaurs dancing.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Just don't do the TV-N version.

Haha, jesus. That reminds me how much I like that Overtime actually translates monster names.

Kuso Meriken posted:

I'm catching up on Kyouryuger, on 16 now. It's weird,maybe I'm a changed man after having my first child, but goddamn do I really enjoy the videos of kids dancing. It's pure joy & innocence next to robot dinosaurs dancing.
This is exactly the correct response to have at any age, I would hope. I absolutely love Kyoryuger's cast, the story, and the action, but I look forward to those dances more than anything else sometimes. Sometimes it's a bunch of kids dancing with various levels of skill, other times it's surprise guest stars. I think my favorites are whenever it's parents and kids, since it's great to imagine that the parents are either total dorks raising the next generation, or they're clueless and learned the dance to make the kids happy. Either way is great.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012
Sooo... Den-O.

Pass? Watch? Decent ending? what say you, Tokugoons?

BornAPoorBlkChild fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Nov 10, 2013

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally




Race Realists posted:

Sooo... Den-O.

Pass? Watch? Decent ending? what say you, Tokugoons?

Wait fore Onore Subs to start releasing it.

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
LOWTAX'S SPINE FUND

Race Realists posted:

Sooo... Den-O.

Pass? Watch? Decent ending? what say you, Tokugoons?
Pass: Ehh...watch it, I guess.
Watch: See pass.
Decent ending: Hahahahahah. No. No, not at all. In fact, there's no such thing as an ending for Den-O. Just more and more movies that should simply not exist.

Seriously though, watch the series, it's not bad. It's not nearly as good as Japan's undying love for it makes it look, but, ending fatigue aside, it's not a bad series. It's on the comedy side to be sure, and not quite as good as Fourze in that regard, but it's not bad, if you can stomach the humour and time travel. Also the music's cool.

In short: it's no Wizard (insert another boring Rider series if you're, in some weird way, a Wizard fan), but it's no (insert your favourite Rider series here).

Scratchman Apoo
Mar 27, 2011

Twelve by Pies posted:

I heard that the overall plot line was really weird in Megaforce, like Vrak "switches forms" or something when he hangs around the second set of baddies? And 15 is where Warstar is brought down, I assume that the Yuma Beasts are working for them or something?

Wait, 41 would be way deep into the Matrintis arc, how do they reconcile the fact that he's a half-cyborg dude?

Vrak so far has used his Yuma beast form on Earth as his "Earth Armor" aside from one episode where he fought in his Warstar form on Earth because it "protected him from the monster's attacks" or some vague excuse to use the sentai footage. Right now all of the footage with the robots is reshot stuff with Vrak in his Warstar form inside the robot base with Metal Alice while cutting out footage of Robogog. Vrak's cyborg form hasn't been used yet but *spoilers for episodes yet to air* will apparently be used after the Warstar ship is destroyed with him in it and is used to replace his Warstar form.

So it's all kinda convoluted and weird but it's fun to do something unique with his footage.

ImpAtom posted:

Bladerun's primary thing is that he is a giant prideful liar. He lies constantly about everything. He is bullshitting because that is what he does. He is the Messiah and so clearly he can't be a giant fuckup who got killed because he underestimated the UMA. He is not actually as awesome as he thinks he is but he will be hosed if he lets anyone else know that.

Bladerun at first glance looks like a Just As Planned mastermind but if you actually follow his arc through the show, it becomes clear he's doing a lot of bullshitting and rapidly adapting his plans on the fly every time they get hosed up. He's still a threat because he's pretty good at coming up with new plans but in the end he's really just a big overconfident liar.


This was always my biggest problem with Bladerun. I never saw him as amazing as he said he was and I thought the show was implying he was supposed to be that badass. The fact that he got killed by a giant giggling blob monster and his bigfoot BFF always made me roll my eyes when he came back and talked poo poo about everyone. Then that moment in his lair with the main villains showing up in spirit form to threaten him...just felt like it was cementing Bladerun as this amazing schemer. I like your view on it because I felt like that was the only way to make sense of his horseshit schemes, but then the show sort of went back and forth with him. But it was definitely a fun ride figuring out what Bladerun was up to regardless.

Scratchman Apoo fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Nov 10, 2013

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Super Hero War Z has now been subbed by Over-Time.

http://over-ti.me/releases/shtz/

SpiderHyphenMan
Apr 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
I'm really hoping that KyoryuSilver gets more use than Violet.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Just watched Wars Z with some friends and while it was overall enjoyable and a fun romp, the best part was Beet J Stag showing up to interrupt Beast and KyoryuGold's finisher. Even if the later was all sorts of broken canon, you would not have believed the cheering and applause. It was worth every second.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011

Oh Daigo you loveable fool.

For extra enjoyability watch the movie at 2x speed.

RBX fucked around with this message at 02:57 on Nov 11, 2013

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Cipher Pol 9 posted:

Just watched Wars Z with some friends and while it was overall enjoyable and a fun romp, the best part was Beet J Stag showing up to interrupt Beast and KyoryuGold's finisher. Even if the later was all sorts of broken canon, you would not have believed the cheering and applause. It was worth every second.

I'm surprised they didn't have Beet J do his thing with Beast suddenly stopping him with his "I know what you're going to say" shtick. Also, the Kyoryugers and their energy didn't really fit in with all of the despair melodrama happening. That being said, I think they had about as much presence as the Go-Busters which wasn't much at all.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


Xelkelvos posted:

I'm surprised they didn't have Beet J do his thing with Beast suddenly stopping him with his "I know what you're going to say" shtick. Also, the Kyoryugers and their energy didn't really fit in with all of the despair melodrama happening. That being said, I think they had about as much presence as the Go-Busters which wasn't much at all.
Yeah, after watching the actual incredible Kyoryuger series, it was disappointing to see how little they appeared in the crossover movie, though King was still great in every scene. Then again, even Haruto disappeared for half of it too, so this ended up feeling much more like a Space Sheriff/GokaiSilver movie. Which was certainly okay, I loved everything the latter did. I'm really looking forward to the Kyoryuger Musical and Busters VS, though, as those two definitely seem like they'll be more fun romps with much more time for the Kyoryugers to shine.

As for the ending ending: Is Kikaider getting a reboot next, then? Gavan's back, Inazuman is back, the Ironmen and Akumaizer came back. I wonder who else they will try and reboot? Maybe Zubat? He appeared in Let's Go Kamen Riders with Inazu and Kikaider, so maybe?

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Twelve by Pies
May 4, 2012

Again a very likpatous story

Blaze Dragon posted:

Seriously though, watch the series, it's not bad. It's not nearly as good as Japan's undying love for it makes it look, but, ending fatigue aside, it's not a bad series.

I really liked Den-O, even the movies, but I'd like to say that I personally thought Climax Deka was awful. It's got some funny scenes but overall I just can't stand that one.

Man, whoever was talking about Megaforce having continuity problems is right. Just saw episode 3 today. The Rangers are fighting the MotW who was turning regular people into grunts through a virus, Red/Pink/Yellow build a huge wall around the transformed people to keep them from spreading the virus. They defeat the monster with their finisher, Blue grabs Black's axe and runs to the wall and smashes it down to free everyone, the other Rangers come up and congratulate him.

After the commercial, the Rangers are back where they were fighting Virox, watching him blow up, and Red is lowering their combined weapon and the Zombats fly in. How did nobody editing the episode catch that, or did they just think kids wouldn't notice?

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