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Kenning posted:750 ml of those is usually like $22+, whereas half bottles are somewhere around $12, if you can find them. Honestly, it's worth the investment though, since those are seriously sippin'-quality vermouths. NH liquor commission has 750 ml. Dolin for ~ $15 but I only buy the dry when I know I will use it a bunch, sip one, and use the rest for cooking if there is any left that needs using. It is very good, but out of my usual budget with it's shelf-life and I have no problem keeping little bottles of Martini on hand for more daily use. The thought of wasting a half bottle of something nice, even if almost as cheap as the low-end stuff, drives me nuts. Guess all the time I spent listening to old-timers prattle about growing up in the depression has impacted my cocktail making. v0v But I'm the guy who will defend Mcclelland Islay as a perfectly decent if very simple scotch that serves a nice role in today's single malt pricing. So feel free to ignore me. E: Any ideas for using Bulgarian rose rakia in cocktails? I subbed some in for the brandy in a Stay Up Late and it was nothing special but a change of pace. The rakia is a lot like rose water in flavor. Butch Cassidy fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Nov 4, 2013 |
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rxcowboy posted:Mezcal in a manhattan: good idea or bad idea? I think that the mezcal smokiness intermingled with sweet vermouth would be one of the worst taste sensations in liquor.
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fuzzy fluffystuff posted:I think that the mezcal smokiness intermingled with sweet vermouth would be one of the worst taste sensations in liquor. The Rob Roy would like a word with you sir.
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rxcowboy posted:The Rob Roy would like a word with you sir. In my humble opinion scotch belongs in a glass with a dash of nothing else at all.
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fuzzy fluffystuff posted:In my humble opinion scotch belongs in a glass with a dash of nothing else at all. Single malt? Yes. Blended? Errrrrr....not so much.
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rxcowboy posted:Single malt? Yes. Blended? Errrrrr....not so much. Blended scotch is not for drinking, just for decoration on the bottom shelves of sad dive bars.
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fuzzy fluffystuff posted:Blended scotch is not for drinking, just for decoration on the bottom shelves of sad dive bars. How many fedoras do you own?
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rxcowboy posted:How many fedoras do you own? Due to my crippling fear of going out of doors I need not and do not own any clothing whatsoever.
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I've never been a big fan of the Rob Roy, but the Bobby Burns is right up my alley. It's like a Scotch Manhattan with a touch of honey and herb from Benedictine.
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fuzzy fluffystuff posted:Due to my crippling fear of going out of doors I need not and do not own any clothing whatsoever. YOU BASTARD I CAUGHT YOU! If you don't go outdoors you have no way of knowing *what* bottles adorn the shelves in dive bars! FRAUD! Seriously thought, I'm in the process of broadening my scotch horizons. I've had a few single malts and a few blended scotches. Teachers,Black Bottle, and Famous Grouse are leagues above Chivas, JWB, and Cutty Sark poo poo you'd see in most bars, and while I wouldn't recommend them straight they hold up quite well in cocktails. Especially Teacher's. Goddamn do I need another bottle of Teacher's. I know scotch purists get all pissy about the concept of anyone drinking anything except a single malt in a special glass with the sole addition of three drops of water that were collected from the dew that dripped off the freshly shorn labia of a Scottish virgin in the middle of a goddamn meadow. And that's all well and good if I have a nice quiet evening to relax and enjoy the malt, taking my time to nose it and taste if and study it and basically get my money's worth. The problem being I'm a family man with three kids, one more on the way and I work between 60-72 hours a week. So when I come home, if I reach for scotch it's going to be a blend with a couple of ice cubes, or a scotch and soda, etc. And once in a blue moon I'll appreciate a good single malt the way god intended. On a side note, an Old Fashioned is a nice relaxing cocktail. Was craving a Manhattan all day, but my dumb rear end is out of vermouth. So I threw together a nice Old Fashioned with some Evan Williams single barrel. Good way to end a day.
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fuzzy fluffystuff posted:Blended scotch is not for drinking, just for decoration on the bottom shelves of sad dive bars. If you've never spent a chilly night passing a bottle of Johnnie red with a friend until it is empty, you are missing out 
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Butch Cassidy posted:If you've never spent a chilly night passing a bottle of Johnnie red with a friend until it is empty, you are missing out I once did this with Grant's. Would not recommend.
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Going shopping tomorrow.Here's my list: Carpano Antica, if not Dolin Vya Dry, if not Martini and Rossi Bluecoat Gin, if not Plymouth or Hayman Green Chartreuse Maraschino Liquer Creme de Violette Angel's Envy Bourbon, if not Elijah Craig Tempelton Rye, if not Russel Reserve Grand Mariner Lairds Apple Brandy Any new bitters I can find I want to try different sweet vermouths and see how they affect a cocktail. I also want to see how different bourbons and ryes affect a Chapel Hill, Boulevadier, Derby, etc. With this I can also make a proper Martinez, Martini, etc. With this I can also make an Aviation, Last Word, Snake Bite, etc. I just got into a goddamn car accident today and can't turn my head to the side without wanting to scream, so I'm going to have an extra day off work. Might as well get piss drunk. rxcowboy fucked around with this message at 03:20 on Nov 8, 2013 |
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Let's trade paychecks. And let me know how you like the Bluecoat, I noticed it in the liquor store the other day and am tempted to try it after I give Cold River a shot. E: And good luck with your neck.
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rxcowboy posted:
Get two bottles of the chartreuse, maraschino and gin. Last Words are addictive.
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Butch Cassidy posted:Let's trade paychecks. And let me know how you like the Bluecoat, I noticed it in the liquor store the other day and am tempted to try it after I give Cold River a shot. Booze is pretty cheap here in maryland, and I probably won't be able to find all that tomorrow but even if I did it would be around 200 for the lot I reckon. And it would last me a month. Also you don't want my check, the only reason I might get all this poo poo is I pull 20 hours of ot on the first and third week of the month, 32 on the second and fourth.
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rxcowboy posted:Booze is pretty cheap here in maryland, and I probably won't be able to find all that tomorrow but even if I did it would be around 200 for the lot I reckon. And it would last me a month. Also you don't want my check, the only reason I might get all this poo poo is I pull 20 hours of ot on the first and third week of the month, 32 on the second and fourth. Well chartreuse is usually ~$60 so just eyeballing your list, you're looking closer to $300 but I'm not familiar at all with prices in Maryland. Solid choices all around though. Dolin and Carpano are awesome, never had Vya since my usual place doesn't have it, but it's supposed to be a really great dry vermouth. Green chartreuse and maraschino liqueur are indispensable, I don't have creme de violette yet, so I can't say whether I'd use it much. It looks really pretty, but I'm not sure what to do with it other than a traditional Aviation. I've only heard recently of Angel's Envy. Is that supposed to be good? I have Elijah Craig and can vouch for it being a good value. Also, why not Rittenhouse rye? Solid for cocktails and cheaper to boot. Laird's bonded apple brandy rocks. Cheers!
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Probably because Rittenhouse's last release dried up like 6 months ago at least. At least in my neck of the woods 
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Kenning posted:Probably because Rittenhouse's last release dried up like 6 months ago at least. Harassing the guys at Heaven Hill about this was one of the better parts of my summer. Turns out even with a half million barrels aging they can't keep up the supply, since the stills have to run almost continuously to keep us supplied with Evan Williams.
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Kenning posted:Probably because Rittenhouse's last release dried up like 6 months ago at least. I should probably get another bottle to stock up then...
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The Hebug posted:I should probably get another bottle to stock up then... There is a ton of Rittenhouse at the stores in my area, maybe I should stock up since it's 18 a bottle. And then sell it to you guys for 30 bucks. Plus shipping. On a side note, none of the stores in my area had creme de violet. Apparently some rear end in a top hat bought the last bottle at one of the stores yesterday. Fess up, which one of you assholes was in maryland?
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rxcowboy posted:There is a ton of Rittenhouse at the stores in my area, maybe I should stock up since it's 18 a bottle. No fair, here in SF I'm limited to one bottle per order.
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The Hebug posted:No fair, here in SF I'm limited to one bottle per order. Here in Maryland, it's buy however much you can afford. Got $1000? Congrats you drunk gently caress, here's $1000 of Rittenhouse. And now...   I made a Last Word tonight. Green Chartresuse, Marachino Liquer, fresh limes, and Bluecoat Gin. It's loving delicious. Not at all what I was expecting it to taste like, but better somehow. It's so fresh and crisp, a perfect blend of the herbs in both the gin and Chartreuse, with a light almond note and citrus from the lime playing in the background. It's not sweet really at all. It's just brilliant. I can't emphasize this enough, everyone needs to try this cocktail to show what a REAL cocktail is capable of pulling off. Also, the Bluecoat is one of the best gin's I've ever had. The juniper is there but it's dialed way the gently caress back and the citrus and herbs and pine are brought to the forefront. It's not a neutered gin/nearly a flavored vodka like New Amsterdam, it's just easier on the juniper unlike a regular London Dry. Old Raj is still my favorite gin, but Bluecoat is an easy number 2. And I've got a coupon for it so my next bottle is only 17 bucks. This might not have enough punch for a good gin and tonic, I'd have to cut the amount of tonic way the gently caress down. Going to try a Snakebite next, then a proper Martinez. To anyone who is on the fence about it, buy the poo poo and make a Last Word. Totally worth it. rxcowboy fucked around with this message at 01:53 on Nov 9, 2013 |
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I'm a moron. Nevermind.
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Any suggestions for things that I am missing? Rum - Aged: Ron Zacapa 23 El Dorado 21 Year Old Angostura 1824 HAVANA CLUB SELECCION DE MAESTROS Rum – White / Cachaca El Dorado 6 Year Old Silver Rum Leblon Cachaca DOMAINE DE MARQUISAT DE STE MARIE RHUM LONGUETEAU Rum - Spiced Captain Morgan Spiced Rum Cruzan No. 9 Spiced Rum Hurricane Harry’s Spiced Rum Sailor Jerry’s Rum - Standard Mount Gay Rum Blackwell Gold Rum Diplomatico Reserva Bacardi 8 year old Grand Reserve Plantation Rum Bacardi 151 Mount Gay XO Angostura 1919 El Dorado 12 Year Old Rum - Flavoured Malibu Coconut Rum Malibu Berrylicious Malibu Sundae Whisky - Canadian Alberta Premium Dark Horse Black Velvet Toasted Caramel Forty Creek Barrel Select Forty Creek Confederation Oak Reserve Forty Creek Copper Pot Collingwood Whiskey Tap 357 Lot 40 Copper Still Canadian Club Sherry Cask Canadian Club 12 Year Old Sortilege Sortilege Prestige MASTERSONS 10 YEARS OLD STRAIGHT RYE WHISKEY Whiskey - Irish Irishman 70 Jameson 12 Year Old Bushmills Black Bush Connemara Peated SIngle Malt Irish Whiskey Whiskey - Scotch Ardmore Traditional Cask Isle of Jura Superstition Amrut Fusion Glenmorangie Original Glenfiddich 15 Year Old Talisker 10 Year Old Johnnie Walker Black Label Dalwhinnie 15 Year Old Highland Park 15 Year Old Glen Garioch Founders Reserve Chivas Regal 18 Year Laphroaig 10 Year Old Aberlour 12 Year Old AUCHENTOSHAN 12 YEARS OLD Glenlivet 16yr Nadurra Glenlivet 18yr old GLENMORANGIE QUINTA RUBAN Bowmore Darkest 15yr LAGAVULIN 16 YEARS OLD Whiskey - American / Bourbon Buffalo Trace White Dog Buffalo Trace Bourbon Woodford Reserve Bulleit Bourbon Old Forester Birthday Bourbon Knob Creek Bourbon Blanton’s Bourbon Cyrus Bourbon Bernheim Wheat Whiskey Four Roses Single Barrel Bourbon 1792 RIDGEMONT RESERVE BARREL Colonel E.H. Taylor Jr Small Batch Angel’s Envy Bourbon Gentleman Jack Sazerac Rye 6yr Vodka Stoli Elite Zubrowka Bison Grass Vodka Sobieski Whipped Cream Vodka Cake Vodka Chocolate Vodka Gin Citadelle Broker’s Hendrick’s Beefeater Plymouth Bluecoat Gin The Botanist Tequila El Jimador Reposado El Jimador Blanco Cazadores Anejo Milagro Silver Tequila Mezcal Jaral de Berrio Zacbe Reposado Sotol SOTOL HACIENDA DE CHIHUAHUA PLATA Calvados / Apple Brandy Calvados Boulard Laird’s Applejack Pisco Pisco Aba PISCO SOLDEICA Cognac / Armagnac / Brandy E&J XO Brandy Janneau Grand Armagnac DELORD 25 YEARS OLD BAS ARMAGNAC Plum Brandy Hennessy Black Courvoisier 12 Year Old Other Liquors Lucid Absinthe Zen Green Tea Liquor Schloss Kirsch Liqueur - Fruit Chambord Xante St-Germain Elderflower Pama Pomegranate Alize Bleu Southern Comfort Luxardo Maraschino Grand Marnier Sour Puss Lemon Bols Blue Labbe Francois Cassis Hayman’s Sloe Gin Triple Sec Golden Pear Heering Cherry Liqueur Creme de Banane Cherry Brandy Apricot Brandy Peach Schnapps Melon Liqueur Soho Lychee Countreau Hypnotiq Seve Luxardo Limoncello Creme de Violette Creme Vyette Sour Puss Raspberry Liquour LAPPONIA LAKKA CLOUDBERRY LIQUEUR Liqueur - Nut / Dessert Frangelico Roasted Chestnut Liqueur Luxardo Amaretto Butter Ripple Schnapps Creme de Cacao Barenjager Honey Liqueur Glazed Donut Liqueur Blueberry Pancake Liqueur Whipped Cream Liqueur Kahlua CRIOLLO CHOCOLATE RASPBERRY LIQUOR Criollo Salted Caramel Liqueur - Other Strega Cynar Fireball Whiskey Aperol Campari Fernet Branca Nonino Quintessentia Amaro Peppermint Schnapps Green Chartreuse Skinos Mastiha Drambuie King’s Ginger Liqueur Benedictine Anice Pimm’s Cup Galliano Dancing Pines Chai Liqueur Domaine de Canton Xaica Hibiscus flower liquor Vermouth / Fortified Wine Vermouth/Fortified Wine Lillet Rose (out) Lillet Blanc White Dry Vermouth Sweet Vermouth Dubonnet Rouge
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I made something last night after a Last Word, a Diamondback, and a Martini. So I fully admit what I made for the fourth cocktail might have tasted like poo poo, but I think it was good. I made a variation on a Derby 50 ml Rittenhouse Rye 50 ml Laird's Apple Brandy 50 ml Sweet Vermouth 50 ml Cointreau 75ml Lime Juice 25 ml Marachino Liquer I could taste the apple, orange, lime and almond with rye spice in the background. I don't think the vermouth did much besides contribute some background spice, but all in all it was delicious. Lingering flavor of citrus and almond post swallow. I'm going to make another one on Sunday, maybe gently caress around a little with the percentages and up the Rye and Brandy to 75ml, but I think it was a good boozy fall cocktail.
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Devoz posted:Any suggestions for things that I am missing? Yellow Chartreuse. It's got a very different taste from the Green and makes some really nice drinks. Mix it with Cynar or Ginger Liqueur and a base liquor of your choice.
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rxcowboy posted:It's loving delicious. Not at all what I was expecting it to taste like, but better somehow. It's so fresh and crisp, a perfect blend of the herbs in both the gin and Chartreuse, with a light almond note and citrus from the lime playing in the background. It's not sweet really at all. It's just brilliant. I can't emphasize this enough, everyone needs to try this cocktail to show what a REAL cocktail is capable of pulling off.
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Devoz posted:Any suggestions for things that I am missing? Me.
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Just made a proper old school Martinez tonight with marachino liquer, Bluecoat gin and sweet vermouth. First, I have no idea how I got this far in life without marachino liquer. It's delicious. Secondly, I've had an epiphany and realized I'm simply not a fan of plain Martinis. I have no idea how they get so much hype, at the current ratios it's basically a chilled shot of gin with a touch of vermouth. A Martinez has so much more flavor that it's incredible. I've started with a 1:1:1 ratio since that's how I found it in an old recipe, but I think next time I make it I'll up the gin to 1 and 1/2 parts and drop the others to 3/4 parts. It's a cocktail with big flavors, which I really enjoy.
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Kenning posted:Probably because Rittenhouse's last release dried up like 6 months ago at least. Fyi, I just picked up a bottle of Rittenhouse yesterday at Cask. It was the only one on the shelf, so I'm not sure what their overall stock is. Also picked up some Smitch and Cross on your rum-thread recommendation and made an old fashioned. This is some crazy delicious stuff--thanks!
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Devoz posted:Any suggestions for things that I am missing? Your scotch section has a serious lack of Ardbeg. I recommend fixing that post haste, good chap. The current Ardbog release, if you can find it, is the best embodiment of the distillery. And Islay malts in general. rxcowboy posted:There is a ton of Rittenhouse at the stores in my area, maybe I should stock up since it's 18 a bottle. Rittenhouse 100 proof is $94 a bottle here. gently caress Australia. The cheapest drinkable bourbon you can get for mixing is probably either Makers Mark or Bulleit, both of which go for $40-45. Although I'll occasionally go with a sneaky Canadian Club for for $35.
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So I am currently in love with Green Chartreuse. Besides the Last Word and Diamondback, please provide me with more cocktails that showcase this liqueur.
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Make a Greenpoint. The original recipe uses yellow Chartreuse, but it also tastes awesome using green. 2oz Rye 0.5oz sweet vermouth 0.5oz green or yellow Chartreuse 2 dash Angostura bitters 1 dash orange bitters stir/strain/coupe/orange peel A Bijou is also a classic drink using the green 1.5oz gin 0.75 sweet vermouth 0.75 Green Chartreuse 2 dash orange bitters stir/strain/coupe/orange peel The Chartreuse Swizzle is also amazing if you have good pineapple juice 1.25oz Green Chartreuse 0.5oz falernum 1oz pineapple juice 0.5oz lime shake/strain/serve over crushed ice
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rxcowboy posted:So I am currently in love with Green Chartreuse. Besides the Last Word and Diamondback, please provide me with more cocktails that showcase this liqueur. The Final Ward is a straightforward substitution that comes out great. Sub rye whiskey for the gin and lemon juice for lime in a Last Word. If you want to make a drink to finish your night, try the Diamondback. 2 parts rye whiskey (Rittenhouse preferred), 1 part apple brandy (Laird's bonded) and 1 part green chartreuse. I just mixed myself a Zephyr tonight, which was 2 oz gin, 0.5 oz lillet, 0.5 oz green chartreuse, which was rather nice, like a chartreuse-tinged martini. But if you really love Green Chartreuse, throw some in the freezer and just sip a shot of it chilled. Sublime.
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I did that thing where I made a painfully simple drink, and now I don't know what I want to call it because I gotta assume someone's at least done something similar before and I'm the kind of dumb nerd that thinks consistent drink taxonomies are important. It's kinda like a tequila riff on an Old Maid, but not really, so if anyone has any better suggestions for names, hit me up because i've literally called it "tequila punch" when pressed by a customer because I'm really bad at coming up with names, and if it already has a name I'd probably like to know it so I'm not just biting some other dudes poo poo. 60 tequila 45-50 cloudy apple juice 15-20 ginger syrup (I use a macerated ginger syrup to keep the spiciness instead of a cooked one, ginger juice/sugar also works) muddled cucumber (a decent amount, probably the most you could fit into a boston without it becoming a huge pain, like 3 cms from the bottom?) dash of angostura shake and strain into fairly large collins glass over ice I'm sorry about all the metric poo poo but I just can't bear to use ozs cause I'm really indecisive with what measurements I like for a drink and metric lets me have that little bit of wiggle room when describing drinks to peple drowned in pussy juice fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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I have some Bacardi Gold that I'm thoroughly regretting buying. I'm infusing most of it but there's still some left that I am tempted to set fires with. I have some fresh pineapple hangning out in the fridge; would pinapple mash, brown sugar and bad rum work? I guess we'll find out!
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