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Slim Killington posted:Absolutely true but those sounds are there because the movie actually sounds worse without them. Seriously, it's weird. Some sound designers put together a production vignette to show off why they do it and it really is better to have nonsense noises like that. Maybe I can find it and post it. Dunno, there's been movies where they don't have crazy click clack sounds from guns and they were fine. Also, if the sounds are overused to the point where they're intrusive, then it could be an issue of execution rather than concept.
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I did like "Phone Booth" way of dealing with it. Simply stating that the sound of a gun being cocked is scary.
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Whatev posted:Kind of esoteric, but the Trailer Park Boys movie Countdown to Liquor Day was rather frustrating to me. It did an absolutely superb job of building up tension while still being funny and appropriately sentimental. The majority of the movie is great and filled with hilarious moments, and the characters are handled really well. Even the score is well managed. But it pretty much falls apart in the last 15 minutes or so with a long rear end stretch that is neither funny nor fitting. It did such a great job setting up for a grand finale, and it fuckin sucked to see it just kind of peter out anticlimactically. Honestly, all I can remember from the ending to the film is that I couldn't stop laughing at the fact that Julian was pulling the security guard heist while still carrying around his rum and coke 
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Nov 9, 2013 22:23
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Is there a single moment in that show where he sets down his rum and coke?
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Nov 10, 2013 20:51
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Well, there's the episode where he drinks swish instead.
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Nov 10, 2013 21:33
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He puts it on top of the shitmobile for a few seconds in one of the eps and I think Ricky steals it for his dad at some point but he gets it back quick
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Nov 10, 2013 21:40
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There are a few times he doesn't have it, but it's right there like 95% of the time which is hilarious. Including several separate occasions when they've been pulled over by the police. 
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Nov 10, 2013 23:32
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When writers think smart = random fact machine or large vocabulary.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:20
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I watched Olympus Has Fallen earlier today and was kind of annoyed that they made one of the bad guys a former Secret Service agent. Because its not like they don't psychologically screen those guys. Although the worst part was how he didn't even really have a good reason for turning on America. He just did because...
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Nov 11, 2013 04:28
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The worst part of that movie to me was the OMG FREE BULLETS IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE WHITEHOUSE! GET EM WHILE THEY ARE HOT! reasoning that everyone ran out INTO THE GUNFIRE to somehow mysteriously get mowed down. There were a lot more bad parts to it, but god drat that was just loving retarded.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:20
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Gaunab posted:When writers think smart = random fact machine or large vocabulary. Or being able to solve a Rubiks Cube really quickly.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:56
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Or being able to solve a Rubiks Cube really quickly. Yeah, I can solve one in under 2 minutes and I'm dumb as poo poo.
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Nov 11, 2013 05:57
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Robzor McFabulous posted:There are a few times he doesn't have it, but it's right there like 95% of the time which is hilarious. Including several separate occasions when they've been pulled over by the police. On my mobile but wasn't this because John Paul Tremblay wasn't a very experienced actor and didn't know what to do with his hands? They had him mix a drink for his first few scenes and the director thought it was funnier and funnier for Julian to have a highball in increasingly improbable situations.
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Nov 11, 2013 09:27
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Razorwired posted:On my mobile but wasn't this because John Paul Tremblay wasn't a very experienced actor and didn't know what to do with his hands? They had him mix a drink for his first few scenes and the director thought it was funnier and funnier for Julian to have a highball in increasingly improbable situations. Yep, pretty sure that's absolutely right.
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Gaunab posted:When writers think smart = random fact machine or large vocabulary. Or be a massive jerk. Or get things right when there was no possible way for them to know. There was a very short lived TV show back in the early 90s (I think) where the gimmick was a 'quirky' super intelligent guy and an ordinary woman (Who will teach him through the power of common sense) teaming up to solve mysteries. Like how the Los Angeles water board's new computer had become sentient and was now overcharging all customers by 3 cents and using that money to buy, gently caress, I dunno, something sinister. I swear, this actually happened! You see he worked this out by calculating, in his head, EXACTLY how much water his lab had used, factoring in variations like dripping taps and toilet flushes and from that, extrapolated the existence of an evil AI out to rip off all of LA 3 cents at a time. Because that's how intelligence works. Now, when the normal lady first went to his lab, the door was locked and the computer controlled door asked her an incredibly bizarre and complicated riddle. Flustered she just said whatever was on the top of her head and this, of course, was the correct answer. Super genius opens the door very pissed off. Why? Because he had designed the riddle to be utterly nonsensical and impossible to answer, that's just how smart he was. No, that doesn't make you smart, it makes you a douche.
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:The worst part of that movie to me was the OMG FREE BULLETS IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE WHITEHOUSE! GET EM WHILE THEY ARE HOT! reasoning that everyone ran out INTO THE GUNFIRE to somehow mysteriously get mowed down. There was also the evil commando tactics of "walking slowly and directly towards the White House." Another really stupid thing was the turret the bad guys put up on the roof of the White House that shoots down the rescue choppers. Even though it could only shoot at one at a time and they sent like 5 or 6. The weirdest thing about the turret is that they make a big deal about how its a next gen American weapon and someone asks how the bad guys got it but as far as I can tell they never explain it.
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Nov 11, 2013 13:26
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"It's terraforming!" *gasp* ... "What's that?"
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A similar thing is in The Matrix where Neo, who is supposed to be a computer progammer/hacker, has to have everything explained to him like EMP and AI.
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Nov 11, 2013 13:41
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"What is that you're using?" "...a computer." "whoa"
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Smart people are literally robots: *playing baseball* "I know the physical calculations and know the exact force needed for the right trajectory, but..." "No man, you gotta use your heart!" I swear Criminal Minds used to be good.
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BioMe posted:Smart people are literally robots: Pretty far to fall, then, because it is absolutely poo poo.
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muscles like this? posted:There was also the evil commando tactics of "walking slowly and directly towards the White House." That whole sequence looks like they took a battle scene from a Revolutionary War movie, stuck everyone in modern clothes and gave them modern props, and CGI'd in the White House. It was so, so bad.
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I've haven't seen the West Wing since it aired so I've been watching it on Netflix lately, and it's horrible how many episodes have a scene with a male character righteously yelling at a female character. It's seriously like every episode and the yelling is completely unjustified. CJ Cregg's character gets to yell some but it's a long way from parity. It comes across like Sorkin and his team of writers sat down and asked themselves, "What woman can the guys yell at this week?" Plus every single male character with a female relative is overprotective of her in the exact same way. The president jokes about locking one of his daughters up in a dungeon and about the other wearing makeup, which he disapproves of. Will Bailey tells his sister not to wear a sexy dress to a party. Leo McGarry screws with his daughter's dating life just because he can. It all hits the same Don't You Think Of My Daughter Or Sister That Way (Also Women Are Objects Sans Agency And Must Fear Other Men) note. I guess it's not super surprising that Sorkin is misogynist but this stuff stands out to me in a way it didn't twelve years ago.
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muscles like this? posted:There was also the evil commando tactics of "walking slowly and directly towards the White House." I think there was a throwaway line about the black market. Now how it got on the black market, no clue. The only thing I did like about the movie was how the evil airplane in the beginning was shooting all kinds of poo poo, and people were actually getting hit. Normally you see cars get hosed up and buildings but never any actual people get shot. Another weird thing about the movie was how the lead was so god damned head stab happy. It was almost like MacGruber and the "Rip your dick off" joke, except played completely serious.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Or be a massive jerk. Or get things right when there was no possible way for them to know. How the hell I remember this poo poo 25 years later, I don't know, but I feel a tinge of shame.
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As an extension to my hatred for rear end in a top hat protagonists, I get a special kind of rage for when the protagonist breaks every rule and does horrendous actions but faces no consequence because the majority of the harm falls on the so-called bad guy, sometimes through dumb luck. Double so when the protagonist is a cop and knows better. Examples: Die Hard With a Vengeance - In the aqueduct tunnel, McClane empties a magazine into the stopped truck before he knows who is in it! Luckily bad guys were in the cab, but he only has a suspicion that it could possibly be them! Bad Boys 2 - The entire movie. Smith and Lawrence's cop characters constantly, repeatedly break the law in the terms of many warrant-less illegal searches and wiretaps, on which they attempt to get legitimate warrants; not to mention all the wanton violence and intimidation they engage in! The bad guy is notorious for having good lawyers and getting out from under charges, and these guys are sabotaging their own case! Yet despite their repeated willful violations and bungling of their case, and interference with the DEA's case, they still keep their jobs! In fact, at the end of the movie they stage a miniature scale invasion of Cuba, sneaking into the country, murdering many of its citizens and also killing many of their soldiers. At then end of the movie they are back in the States, still with their jobs and doing fine - which is loving insane!
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Van Dis posted:I've haven't seen the West Wing since it aired so I've been watching it on Netflix lately, and it's horrible how many episodes have a scene with a male character righteously yelling at a female character. It's seriously like every episode and the yelling is completely unjustified. CJ Cregg's character gets to yell some but it's a long way from parity. It comes across like Sorkin and his team of writers sat down and asked themselves, "What woman can the guys yell at this week?" Seeing Toby without the beard pisses me off 
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:The worst part of that movie to me was the OMG FREE BULLETS IN THE FRONT YARD OF THE WHITEHOUSE! GET EM WHILE THEY ARE HOT! reasoning that everyone ran out INTO THE GUNFIRE to somehow mysteriously get mowed down. It set the tone for the movie, which made every other dumb thing like easy to gloss over because when they're revealed you're just like "oh this is a dumb movie." It was the cocking the gun of making a dumb action film.
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John Big Booty posted:It was late 80s, and it was called Probe. Thank you for this - I've been trying to remember that name of the show for years. It was so stupid, I was starting to believe I had imagined it. Of course, for the longest time I also thought I had imagined the Star Wars Holiday Special and Bea Arthur singing.
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LeJackal posted:Bad Boys 2 - The entire movie. Smith and Lawrence's cop characters constantly, repeatedly break the law in the terms of many warrant-less illegal searches and wiretaps, on which they attempt to get legitimate warrants; not to mention all the wanton violence and intimidation they engage in! The bad guy is notorious for having good lawyers and getting out from under charges, and these guys are sabotaging their own case! Yet despite their repeated willful violations and bungling of their case, and interference with the DEA's case, they still keep their jobs! In fact, at the end of the movie they stage a miniature scale invasion of Cuba, sneaking into the country, murdering many of its citizens and also killing many of their soldiers. At then end of the movie they are back in the States, still with their jobs and doing fine - which is loving insane!  The Movie.
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Kevin Costner's "Boston" accent in 13 Days is just horrible to the point of being really distracting, which is bad because I'm watching that movie in history class and I need to pay attention. It sounds so goddamn fake and I don't think I've heard a worse one out there.
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LeJackal posted:
Isn't that also the one where one of the Bad guys realizes he was double crossed by the other bad guys. Encounters McClane, puts his hands up, and says don't shoot. After which McClane pops him one in the noodle killing him. Not only was it bad and wrong, but that guy theoretically would have actively helped McClane since he know he was double crossed. I realize it was when he was escaping from a ship about to explode, but just braining a dude with no weapon... ugh.
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Lap-Lem posted:Isn't that also the one where one of the Bad guys realizes he was double crossed by the other bad guys. Encounters McClane, puts his hands up, and says don't shoot. After which McClane pops him one in the noodle killing him. Not only was it bad and wrong, but that guy theoretically would have actively helped McClane since he know he was double crossed. I realize it was when he was escaping from a ship about to explode, but just braining a dude with no weapon... ugh. He wasn't even escaping a ship about to explode - he was just exploring the hold of the cargo ship way before the bomb thing became an issue. So essentially McClane executed someone that was surrendering, and in so doing committing cold-blooded murder.
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Lap-Lem posted:Isn't that also the one where one of the Bad guys realizes he was double crossed by the other bad guys. Encounters McClane, puts his hands up, and says don't shoot. After which McClane pops him one in the noodle killing him. Not only was it bad and wrong, but that guy theoretically would have actively helped McClane since he know he was double crossed. I realize it was when he was escaping from a ship about to explode, but just braining a dude with no weapon... ugh. I think you're getting parts mixed up. The other "Head Guy" doesn't realize he's been double-crossed until after McClane is captured. That was just some ordinary mook that felt his share wasn't worth possibly dying for after seeing McClane mow through about 100 of his friends. The guy that realizes they are double-crossed gets killed by the woman he thought was his GF, but who was banging Jeremy Irons.
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Hey the man gets results. WOMEN [McBain has just shot up everyone in a meeting] Well, you certainly broke up that meeting! MCBAIN Right now, I'm thinking of starting another meeting. In bed! [they kiss]
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DrBouvenstein posted:I think you're getting parts mixed up. The other "Head Guy" doesn't realize he's been double-crossed until after McClane is captured. That was just some ordinary mook that felt his share wasn't worth possibly dying for after seeing McClane mow through about 100 of his friends. Wrongo. The entire reason that really tall explosive expert guy (Largo?) is down in the hold is because his guy (who McClane murders in cold blood) found the scrap metal and brought it to Largo's attention.
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LeJackal posted:Wrongo. The entire reason that really tall explosive expert guy (Largo?) is down in the hold is because his guy (who McClane murders in cold blood) found the scrap metal and brought it to Largo's attention. If it's what I'm thinking of, I'm pretty sure the reason McClane straight up shoots the guy is because A) he was until recently a bad guy, and B) in the first Die Hard a man taught McClane, "Next time you have a chance to kill someone, don't hesitate!" It's a call-back.
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The guy McClane murders in cold blood is a random mook with no importance to the plot, and he says "Nicht schiessen!" which is German for "don't shoot!", as the enormous Lurch-looking dude who Simon double-crosses informs him before kicking the poo poo out of him. McClane shot anyway because he doesn't speak German and was presumably on a hair trigger after the day's events. e: Or maybe he's the guy who brought the scrap metal to Lurch, I don't remember. venus de lmao has a new favorite as of 22:50 on Nov 18, 2013 |
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Bertrand Hustle posted:The guy McClane murders in cold blood is a random mook with no importance to the plot, and he says "Nicht schiessen!" which is German for "don't shoot!", as the enormous Lurch-looking dude who Simon double-crosses informs him before kicking the poo poo out of him. He is the guy who brings the scrap metal to Lurch (I want to say his name is Targo, maybe?), which is why Lurch can so easily kick McClane in the face after he shoots the dude - he's on top of the container checking it's contents. As someone already pointed it out, it's partly a call back to the whole "next time you get a chance to kill someone" bit in the first Die Hard, but it's also partly a cautionary tale about the dangers of annoying John McClane - he's in a bit of a violent mood by that point, as the random mook he caught walking through a door a few minutes earlier would attest, if he hadn't just had a bulkhead slammed on his head a half dozen times.
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Gorilla Salad posted:Of course, for the longest time I also thought I had imagined the Star Wars Holiday Special and Bea Arthur singing. You did. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. It didn't happen. It. Didn't. Happen.
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