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It turns out that a Kitchenaid (or similar decent stand mixer with a wire whisk, presumably) will crank out evenly-roasted coffee if you just dump a pound of beans into it and stand there sticking a heat gun into the bowl for around 20 minutes. No apparent discoloration or damage to the mixer. It will be nice to rest my stirring arm.
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I don't know if it's been mentioned yet but, right now JC Penny is running clearance on all their Bodium products! http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-09-11/j-c-penney-pulls-bodum-brand-from-website-after-lawsuit.html I just got a burr grinder for 40 bucks after tax! it was 70% off and the cashier took an extra 10% off since it was the display. These retail for $130 at the store or $114 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/Bodum-Bistro-Electric-Coffee-Grinder/dp/B0043095WW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384091805 Fantastic price if you are in need of a grinder or a french press, vacuum pot, double walled cups, or thermos. http://www.jcpenney.com/coupons
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Nov 10, 2013 14:59
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I might have to snag some cups. Their double wall glass cups are my go to ones. I have them in the 10oz and espresso sizes. They hold heat super well.
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Nov 10, 2013 16:53
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Loucks posted:It turns out that a Kitchenaid (or similar decent stand mixer with a wire whisk, presumably) will crank out evenly-roasted coffee if you just dump a pound of beans into it and stand there sticking a heat gun into the bowl for around 20 minutes. No apparent discoloration or damage to the mixer. It will be nice to rest my stirring arm. Awesome idea! I might have to try it out soon.
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Nov 10, 2013 20:45
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drat, I really want some of those cups but with the gas I'd spend to get to the nearest jcpenny, I might as well order from Amazon!
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Nov 10, 2013 20:55
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Google Butt posted:drat, I really want some of those cups but with the gas I'd spend to get to the nearest jcpenny, I might as well order from Amazon! You definitely want them. They work and look equally awesome.
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Nov 11, 2013 00:35
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BraveUlysses posted:Awesome idea! I might have to try it out soon. Do. It's awesome. Be forewarned, the basic Wagner heat gun that's popular around here won't get it done if you don't stick it right down in there or move it around too much. I pressed the little metal loop on the top of the gun against the cover for the meat grinder port so the nozzle just cleared the wire whisk and it worked beautifully. I want to whip up some sort of removable hanger so I can just attach the gun and do dishes or something when it roasts, but 
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Nov 11, 2013 02:22
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RE: that Bodum grinder. I have been using that for about a year for a drip grind, however I realize that the grind isn't consistent throughout at all. Does anyone else have experience with the grinder? What should I get next if this one breaks on me?
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Nov 11, 2013 02:46
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Bobx66 posted:RE: that Bodum grinder. I have been using that for about a year for a drip grind, however I realize that the grind isn't consistent throughout at all. Does anyone else have experience with the grinder? What should I get next if this one breaks on me? The answer is always Baratza.
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Nov 11, 2013 02:55
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Astronaut Jones posted:The answer is always Baratza. I've been really happy with my Virtuoso. I don't have an espresso set-up and couldn't justify the cost of a Vario.
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Nov 11, 2013 03:02
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Bobx66 posted:RE: that Bodum grinder. I have been using that for about a year for a drip grind, however I realize that the grind isn't consistent throughout at all. Does anyone else have experience with the grinder? What should I get next if this one breaks on me? For drip, the Baratza Encore or Capresso Infinity would be good and both are probably cheaper than what you paid for the Bodum.
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Nov 11, 2013 04:14
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Loucks posted:It turns out that a Kitchenaid (or similar decent stand mixer with a wire whisk, presumably) will crank out evenly-roasted coffee if you just dump a pound of beans into it and stand there sticking a heat gun into the bowl for around 20 minutes. No apparent discoloration or damage to the mixer. It will be nice to rest my stirring arm. Genius. I'll have to try this out. Have you tried it yet? Any results to report?
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Nov 11, 2013 17:13
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Sacrilage posted:Genius. I'll have to try this out. Have you tried it yet? Any results to report? That post was my report. No photos, but I roasted 16oz to the start of 2nd crack effortlessly. The only real issue was that the mixer is pretty noisy. It was delicious. My mother in law tried it and failed, but it turned out that she was moving the gun and had the mixer stirring way too quickly. Her subsequent efforts were successful. I plan to roast again this morning and intend to attempt a bigger batch.
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Nov 12, 2013 09:38
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Astronaut Jones posted:The answer is always Baratza. My first Baratza had the knob missing, second worked until my gf broke it, third one won't stop grinding until you pull the plug if you dare touch the pulse button, fourth one's has been calibrated all fuckily and is way too fine at the finest setting and not-quite right at any other setting except coarse french press grinds. I really loved the second one because it worked as expected for 9 months but all the other ones have been lemons.
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Nov 12, 2013 18:42
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 Cold brewing coffee. Please excuse the grind, it's from a crummy old burr grinder I got for free while I wait for a refurb Baratza sale. So you see the larger grounds at the bottom and a layer of finer grounds on top of it, and then the majority of the coffee on top of that. At the very top is a layer of light brown liquid. What is that? Edit: looking more closely there are two distinct layers of light brown Steve Yun fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Nov 12, 2013 19:45
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newreply.php posted:My first Baratza had the knob missing, second worked until my gf broke it, third one won't stop grinding until you pull the plug if you dare touch the pulse button, fourth one's has been calibrated all fuckily and is way too fine at the finest setting and not-quite right at any other setting except coarse french press grinds. Yikes. I can only speak from my personal experience, but I bought my vario used and it's got at least 3 years on it without issue. That being said, I hear their customer service is awesome so I hope you got your issues worked out by Baratza.
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Nov 12, 2013 20:05
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Steve Yun posted:
It's the oils from the coffee that have risen to the top.
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Nov 12, 2013 20:39
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Sooo.... since oils get lost in paper filtering, should I ladle that aside, filter my coffee and put the oils back in or is that being stupid and fiddly
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Nov 12, 2013 20:51
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Loucks posted:Do. It's awesome. Be forewarned, the basic Wagner heat gun that's popular around here won't get it done if you don't stick it right down in there or move it around too much. I pressed the little metal loop on the top of the gun against the cover for the meat grinder port so the nozzle just cleared the wire whisk and it worked beautifully. I want to whip up some sort of removable hanger so I can just attach the gun and do dishes or something when it roasts, but Next time snag some photos too  I will double check the wattage of the heat gun that I borrowed from my dad.
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Nov 12, 2013 21:18
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Stupid and fiddly is the name of the game when it comes to enjoying a coffee hobby. Try it out and report back! I am personally convinced that all of my favorite flavors dwell in the oily part.
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Nov 13, 2013 01:09
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Steve Yun posted:Sooo.... since oils get lost in paper filtering, should I ladle that aside, filter my coffee and put the oils back in or is that being stupid and fiddly Just stir it up with a spoon to remix. Makes for a more consistent brew.
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Nov 13, 2013 01:41
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Loucks posted:That post was my report. No photos, but I roasted 16oz to the start of 2nd crack effortlessly. The only real issue was that the mixer is pretty noisy. It was delicious. My mother in law tried it and failed, but it turned out that she was moving the gun and had the mixer stirring way too quickly. Her subsequent efforts were successful. I plan to roast again this morning and intend to attempt a bigger batch. Looking forward to hearing about the results. Any idea what type of beans you're going to use?
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Nov 13, 2013 02:32
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Steve Yun posted:Sooo.... since oils get lost in paper filtering, should I ladle that aside, filter my coffee and put the oils back in or is that being stupid and fiddly I do my cold brew in my french press to leave in the oils.
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Nov 13, 2013 04:42
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I got cups, at a discount, yo
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What's the point of the double wall when it has the handle right there?
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Mu Zeta posted:What's the point of the double wall when it has the handle right there? Keep the liquid warmer for longer, I'd imagine. edit: plus they look cool Google Butt fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Nov 13, 2013 06:18
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Happy birthday to me! Thanks to my beautiful fiancée, I finally got a real grinder that I've been lusting over for years. I've only had it a week but I'm really happy with the grind consistency and range. Time to order some more coffee.  I also came across that JCP sale for and bought a friend a stainless French Press as a wedding gift and an extra carafe for my French Press because we all know it's going to shatter sooner or later.
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http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jimguldi/worlds-first-roast-grind-brew-coffee-machine?ref=live Seems interesting. No rest time for degassing. It is the first question in the Q&A and it seems like they completely dodge it? I'm interested.
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Bobx66 posted:Seems interesting. No rest time for degassing. It is the first question in the Q&A and it seems like they completely dodge it? It sounds like they are saying that they asked around and were told basically the same thing by everyone, but they think the machine makes good coffee anyway.
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Nov 13, 2013 16:24
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They claim that the ventilation system will ensure degassing but they don't appear to understand that it is a many hours process.
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That is like building a chicken coop that automatically boils the eggs for you. And when the chicken dies there's nothing you can do except send it in for warranty service and they'll put a new chicken in there.
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Nov 13, 2013 17:47
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Has anyone tried making coffee with beans that weren't degassed to see for themselves what difference it makes?
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I've used beans only an hour or two after roasting and the coffee was perfectly fine. For most people the variables in their brewing probably make a bigger difference than the degree of outgassing.
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Nov 13, 2013 18:29
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Shugojin posted:They claim that the ventilation system will ensure degassing but they don't appear to understand that it is a many hours process. Having read this and using my just roasted beans then tasting them less than 12 hours it's hard not to notice a difference in taste. Sure maybe some might hold up in that time but I can't imagine many do. I'm curious how anyone could get 15,000 beta tests though. That's unreal. The time involved for that and compiling that data is so much I can't even imagine sorting through that. Edit ^ guess someone can always prove me wrong. MasterControl fucked around with this message at 18:38 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Nov 13, 2013 18:34
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Steve Yun posted:Has anyone tried making coffee with beans that weren't degassed to see for themselves what difference it makes? I've made coffee 3 hours after it was roasted. Tastes good but I think it's better after a day. There is a significant difference between 3 hours and 3 days later and I'll always prefer the latter. withak posted:I've used beans only an hour or two after roasting and the coffee was perfectly fine. For most people the variables in their brewing probably make a bigger difference than the degree of outgassing. One of my favorite parts of roasted coffee is the amazing smell. When it's roasted that fresh it still just smells like grass and that sucks.
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Marco Arment had a good list of reasons why this their machine is likely a bad idea. Ventilation seems like a big issue (beyond the lack of degassing time, that is.)
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Nov 13, 2013 18:50
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Steve Yun posted:Has anyone tried making coffee with beans that weren't degassed to see for themselves what difference it makes? I make coffee all the time without degassing (often still warm from the roast) because I'm really bad at remembering to roast coffee when I run out. I just allow an extra long bloom time. It's not optimal but it is still good.
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Steve Yun posted:Has anyone tried making coffee with beans that weren't degassed to see for themselves what difference it makes? I've made press within minutes of roasting, and pour-over, without issue. Just understand there's going to be massive bloom. I've also attempted to pull espresso a couple of times with durations post-roast of minutes to 4-6 hours. Not good. I call what it does "sharp", and I believe Porktree said at one point that what you're actually creating with the heat and pressure of an espresso machine is carbonic acid by forcing the CO2 into solution. Related to this, I've had very good experiences with the one-way tins that Sweet Marias sells. I have one bean that really needs to rest for as much as 3 to 5 days before it settles down from the "sharp", and the tins let them do this without losing as much of their aromatics.
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Yeah I grant that I have not yet had the opportunity to do a near-immediate brew from beans because I don't have a home roasting setup. The whole system sounds like it'll be a pain from what I know, especially the smoke and chaff/oil buildup people mentioned. The fact that it is a very small amount of beans for one brew compared to what you normally roast will help with the smoke of course since it's just plain less stuff to make smoke with but I don't know how much. The only roasting I have personally witnessed is on a giant old Probat and so I have no idea how much smoke a single brew would make!
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