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Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
Having had the chance to test a few cases, I've found that the Air imposes a new dynamic on picking one. Because the Air is light enough that you can comfortably hold it one- or two-handed for long stretches, the weight of a case becomes VERY important. I would actually recommend against getting a keyboard case unless you expect to be typing most of the time - you're better off getting a separate keyboard and a case with a stand.

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Socialism
May 9, 2009
Just picked up a retina mini from the NYC 5th ave Apple Store - it's really as good as you would expect and probably more. Fantastic screen, fast - even noticeably faster than the iPad 4 that I used until recently (albeit the difference isn't substantial).

For the last few weeks I've been trying out the 2013 Nexus 7, of which even after replacing once I seemed to have hit the jackpot for QA problems - random reboots/shutdowns, weird battery reporting, can't connect to 5ghz wifi, phantom touches... and the random back button. Glad that's done with.

Anyway I got the black smart cover to go along with the mini. I have to say it really isn't as good as the original iPad covers with the metal clasps, especially in the "flat" position since the hinge isn't as secure. Is there a good third party option? The ones I saw in the Apple store were kind of crappy, either too bulky or just low quality.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

What's a 64GB Verizon LTE "new iPad" worth these days, in good shape?

I'm looking to sell it, but I have a feeling it's not going to be worth as much as I'd like.

(Just for the record, I mean this one:

iPad 1 - iPad 2 - [new iPad] - iPad 3

)

POCKET CHOMP
Jul 20, 2003

me irl.
I have no idea what they go for, but I think you're actually talking about an "iPad 3", though as far as I know neither the iPad 3rd or 4th generation were ever officially numbered.

The "iPad 3" was "the new iPad", and then the "iPad 4" was labeled the same, it introduced the lightning connector. Then the Air brings us to the current gen, at least for the full-sized iPads. I think. :)

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Just got home with a new SPACE Grey iPad Air. Not much to say that hasn't been said, this thing is awesome and I much prefer it to the mini. It's light but it's not "Well gently caress me up the rear end and call me a bitch" light, you know? If you're on an iPad 3 or earlier, this thing is absolutely worth it.

Edit: aaaaand just experienced my first crash to Apple logo, like a soft reset. Cool. Hadn't seen it on ios7, just checked and it already has iOS 7.03, weird

Comfy Fleece Sweater fucked around with this message at 08:45 on Nov 13, 2013

japtor
Oct 28, 2005

POCKET CHOMP posted:

I have no idea what they go for, but I think you're actually talking about an "iPad 3", though as far as I know neither the iPad 3rd or 4th generation were ever officially numbered.

The "iPad 3" was "the new iPad", and then the "iPad 4" was labeled the same, it introduced the lightning connector. Then the Air brings us to the current gen, at least for the full-sized iPads. I think. :)
The 4th gen was "iPad with Retina display" :downs:. Which resulted in this amusing thing I saw on Apple's trade in page:



Assuming he means 3rd gen, Amazon's trade in value is $210 to $267, Target's is $223, Apple's is $261 to $276. A quick skim on eBay says the going rate there is about $350-400.

TyrantWD
Nov 6, 2010
Ignore my doomerism, I don't think better things are possible
These definitely seem to be shipping earlier than expected. My Nov 19-21 order is now estimated to arrive on Friday.

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003
OK. Call me Timb but...

Does anyone else's Mini Retina screen seem to have really lovely colors? Holding it against my iPad 3 Retina or my iPhone 5s, the greens and reds looks particularly bad.

Or is it just me?

SaturdayKnight
Mar 31, 2011

dexter6 posted:

OK. Call me Timb but...

Does anyone else's Mini Retina screen seem to have really lovely colors? Holding it against my iPad 3 Retina or my iPhone 5s, the greens and reds looks particularly bad.

Or is it just me?

It's probably just you since how the gently caress do you have a retina mini already?

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

SaturdayKnight posted:

It's probably just you since how the gently caress do you have a retina mini already?
Bought it online, checked in-store availability and the place a block away had one. So I bought it.

Shmoogy
Mar 21, 2007

dexter6 posted:

OK. Call me Timb but...

Does anyone else's Mini Retina screen seem to have really lovely colors? Holding it against my iPad 3 Retina or my iPhone 5s, the greens and reds looks particularly bad.

Or is it just me?
People have been complaining that the color gamut is lower, resulting in a washed out looking screen when directly comparing:


Not certain of the validity - have to wait for Anandtech to do his in depth review to really know details about the screen quality.

e: but yours sounds horrendous - maybe go to a store, compare, and switch it out?

James Polk
Jun 18, 2010

I was born in a farmhouse in Pineville, North Carolina
Wanted to caution people against the Logitech Ultrathin for iPad Air if you're seeking a keyboard/cover option. I got mine today and it's a flimsy piece of poo poo compared to the old version of the keyboard. When you stick the iPad into the upright slot, the weight bends the entire face of the keyboard up. I'm returning it ASAP for fear that the next time I put the iPad in, the whole top will snap off.

James Polk fucked around with this message at 15:40 on Nov 13, 2013

dexter6
Sep 22, 2003

Shmoogy posted:

People have been complaining that the color gamut is lower, resulting in a washed out looking screen when directly comparing:


Not certain of the validity - have to wait for Anandtech to do his in depth review to really know details about the screen quality.

e: but yours sounds horrendous - maybe go to a store, compare, and switch it out?
OK I just did the comparison with my 5S like that photo, and my (untrained eye) opinion is that is is less bright / crisp, even with the screen at full brightness.

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?

Krakkles posted:

What's a 64GB Verizon LTE "new iPad" worth these days, in good shape?

I'm looking to sell it, but I have a feeling it's not going to be worth as much as I'd like.

(Just for the record, I mean this one:

iPad 1 - iPad 2 - [new iPad] - iPad 3

)

You're actually talking about an iPad 3. I just sold my 64gb Verizon LTE on eBay for around $500, but that's at the high end of what they're currently going for. Expect $350-450. You might get a tad more if you sell on Craigslist and are super patient.

SaturdayKnight
Mar 31, 2011

Huh. I guess some stores did end up getting retina minis. I was under the impression they were online only for a while.

Socialism
May 9, 2009

dexter6 posted:

OK I just did the comparison with my 5S like that photo, and my (untrained eye) opinion is that is is less bright / crisp, even with the screen at full brightness.

Same here, the difference is easy to notice on any picture with bright colours. It's not very dramatic though, but I am curious on what the professional reviews will show.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



From a few reviews/teardowns, the retina mini is clocked at 1.3 GHz like the 5s rather than 1.4 GHz like the Air. Obviously this won't make much real-world difference, and it probably still doesn't throttle as aggressively as the 5s.

Veinless
Sep 11, 2008

Smells like motivation
Canadians can check in-store quantities and reserve Mini's at https://ireserve.apple.com/CA/en_CA/reserve/iPad/productReservation

I picked one up last night. About a 10 minute wait in line. Screen looks great compared to the old Mini. Have not noticed much difference from the 3rd gen iPad, but honestly did not use it enough to get a good feel.

Interestingly, I get a large enough voltage drop through a USB extension cable to make the new Mini show "not charging". Have to go straight to the adapter to charge.

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

SaturdayKnight posted:

Huh. I guess some stores did end up getting retina minis. I was under the impression they were online only for a while.

Best buy near me finally got some stock in and I ran over there at lunch and picked up a 32gb wifi!

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

Veinless posted:

Canadians can check in-store quantities and reserve Mini's at https://ireserve.apple.com/CA/en_CA/reserve/iPad/productReservation

I picked one up last night. About a 10 minute wait in line. Screen looks great compared to the old Mini. Have not noticed much difference from the 3rd gen iPad, but honestly did not use it enough to get a good feel.

Interestingly, I get a large enough voltage drop through a USB extension cable to make the new Mini show "not charging". Have to go straight to the adapter to charge.

As someone who was impressed after upgrading from an iPad 3 to an Air, I'd think there would be enormous differences between an iPad 3 and a second-gen Mini. You're not only jumping from an A5X chip to an A7, but shrinking weight dramatically. You can easily hold a Mini in one hand.

Veinless
Sep 11, 2008

Smells like motivation

Nihiliste posted:

As someone who was impressed after upgrading from an iPad 3 to an Air, I'd think there would be enormous differences between an iPad 3 and a second-gen Mini. You're not only jumping from an A5X chip to an A7, but shrinking weight dramatically. You can easily hold a Mini in one hand.

Absolutely. I meant in screen quality though. The iPad 3 has had such a gorgeous screen forever, nice to have the Retina Mini matching it.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
So this is my first wet apply (best skins ever) but I gotta say, (granted, I just put it on) The glossy front does NOT look very good right now. I'm hoping when it cures, some milky stuff, tiny bubbles (and most importantly, a really moire-ish rainbow look to my screen (like everything is made of colored pixels, for lack of a better term..) goes away.

Nuntius
May 7, 2004

(not a fag)
I really want to cancel my online rMini order and pick up in store but for some reason none of the Vancouver stores have them, nor the greater Vancouver stores. Yet Toronto has loads. This makes no sense, we're closer to China.

But in all seriousness, of all the stores I've looked at, the 64gb has the most availability. I wonder why no one is going for that one?

Residency Evil
Jul 28, 2003

4/5 godo... Schumi
What are most people using for cases for their minis? Some combination of smart cover/back plate? I'm looking for something that looks fairly professional.

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

Veinless posted:

Absolutely. I meant in screen quality though. The iPad 3 has had such a gorgeous screen forever, nice to have the Retina Mini matching it.

That makes sense. The Air's screen does seem nicer than the iPad 3's, but it's hard to put a finger on why. Fewer reflections, maybe?

mattfl
Aug 27, 2004

Residency Evil posted:

What are most people using for cases for their minis? Some combination of smart cover/back plate? I'm looking for something that looks fairly professional.

I was wanting to ask the same thing, so thanks for that!

I'd like something pretty minimalist as I don't want to add much bulk to my mini. I'd almost rather just some kinda skin for the back and a smart cover type for the front.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Feenix posted:

So this is my first wet apply (best skins ever) but I gotta say, (granted, I just put it on) The glossy front does NOT look very good right now. I'm hoping when it cures, some milky stuff, tiny bubbles (and most importantly, a really moire-ish rainbow look to my screen (like everything is made of colored pixels, for lack of a better term..) goes away.

Glossy skins were never good. It's just poo poo your threw on back in the day because "omg protection against scratches!" and poo poo. Definitely give it some more time to dry but if it's milky, you probably have too much water under there. Obviously this is going to be notice a lot more since you're staring at the display with light shining through but hopefully the excess liquid should dry out.

I just put a matte back on my Air and it came out very well. I am used to applying these drat wet apply skins though so it wasn't an issue for me because I know what to expect and how to apply it. The corners probably took the best of any device I've had to apply these on. With the exception of the feel and the edges, if you took a glance at it you'd never even know it was there.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

averox posted:

Glossy skins were never good. It's just poo poo your threw on back in the day because "omg protection against scratches!" and poo poo. Definitely give it some more time to dry but if it's milky, you probably have too much water under there. Obviously this is going to be notice a lot more since you're staring at the display with light shining through but hopefully the excess liquid should dry out.

I just put a matte back on my Air and it came out very well. I am used to applying these drat wet apply skins though so it wasn't an issue for me because I know what to expect and how to apply it. The corners probably took the best of any device I've had to apply these on. With the exception of the feel and the edges, if you took a glance at it you'd never even know it was there.

Yeah I got a matte back as well. Application went well. Having to kind of coax and work the corners as they slowly dry/adhere.

The front is glossy. Ive had glossy fronts on all my devices dating back to iPhone 1 and never seen a sort of rainbow pixel look. Its possible, I suppose, I used too much water, but honestly, after reading up on tips and watching the official video, I was actually wondering if I'd been too conservative with it.
We'll see in about a day, I guess?

[edit] Also I am having trouble relating to your first sentence. Glossy screens were ALWAYs good, as matte screens always murk up the retina displays. Glossy Screens (for me) have always been extensions of the existing screen. Not noticeable in the slightest except around the holes for the camera and such where you would notice the raised nature of the extra layer's edges.
:)

Turnquiet
Oct 24, 2002

My friend is an eloquent speaker.

Residency Evil posted:

What are most people using for cases for their minis? Some combination of smart cover/back plate? I'm looking for something that looks fairly professional.

Smart Cases this time around are pretty baller. All leather, and I am happy with mine on an Air, so I imagine a rMini would be easier still to keep manageable.

averox
Feb 28, 2005



:dukedog:
Fun Shoe

Feenix posted:

[edit] Also I am having trouble relating to your first sentence. Glossy screens were ALWAYs good, as matte screens always murk up the retina displays.

I guess it's just me. I disliked the sort of look that the glossy skins gave the look of the screen. The only one I've ever put them on was a 3G and the OG iPad. Bare screen on anything else because I just did not like the look and feel of the skin on the screen surface.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
Feenix: give it 24 hours. My skinomi was a rainbow mess that I intended to peel off and throw away, but now I don't see an optical difference next to a non-skinned air, and the rubbery feeling seems to be slowly hardening too.

Nihiliste
Oct 23, 2005
The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.

mattfl posted:

I was wanting to ask the same thing, so thanks for that!

I'd like something pretty minimalist as I don't want to add much bulk to my mini. I'd almost rather just some kinda skin for the back and a smart cover type for the front.

This is what I'd pick up myself, probably.

http://www.thesnugg.com/ipad-cases/ipad-mini-2-cases/snugg-ipad-mini-2-executive-case-cover-and-flip-stand-in-distressed-brown-leather.aspx

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

eddiewalker posted:

Feenix: give it 24 hours. My skinomi was a rainbow mess that I intended to peel off and throw away, but now I don't see an optical difference next to a non-skinned air, and the rubbery feeling seems to be slowly hardening too.

Definitely. I plan to be patient. It's just amazing how bad it looks with the bubbles and the rainbow. I can see many people assuming it was not right, or a piece of crap skin if they didn't know better...

Three-Phase
Aug 5, 2006

by zen death robot

Don Tacorleone posted:

Edit: aaaaand just experienced my first crash to Apple logo, like a soft reset. Cool. Hadn't seen it on ios7, just checked and it already has iOS 7.03, weird

I was using it in the Apple store this weekend and it crashed on me there, too.

Skam
Jan 6, 2008
I just got an air and i have a question about newsstand items auto downloading

I want it to auto download the paper as soon as its published, according to the newsstand app it is supposed to do this (its the evening standard for reference) - i have already told it to subscribe and have had the email from itunes telling me i am subscribed

Mainly because my ipad will be connected to wifi at work and then when i get on the train i was to be able to read the paper, however if i dont load the app in the daytime then it does not seem to be downloading the most recent one

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Why would anyone need a screen protector on an ipad? I've had like 4 iphones, 2 ipads now and never had a scratch on any of their screens. Had my phone in the same pocket as my keys, coins, etc. as well.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

vaginal culture posted:

Why would anyone need a screen protector on an ipad? I've had like 4 iphones, 2 ipads now and never had a scratch on any of their screens. Had my phone in the same pocket as my keys, coins, etc. as well.

I carry it in the same pocket of JNCOs as my car keys.

moon demon
Sep 11, 2001

of the moon, of the dream

Skam posted:

I just got an air and i have a question about newsstand items auto downloading

I want it to auto download the paper as soon as its published, according to the newsstand app it is supposed to do this (its the evening standard for reference) - i have already told it to subscribe and have had the email from itunes telling me i am subscribed

Mainly because my ipad will be connected to wifi at work and then when i get on the train i was to be able to read the paper, however if i dont load the app in the daytime then it does not seem to be downloading the most recent one

Have you checked the settings for background app refresh? It should be in by default but just to make sure go to settings->general->background app refresh and make sure the box is checked.

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

Nuntius posted:

But in all seriousness, of all the stores I've looked at, the 64gb has the most availability. I wonder why no one is going for that one?

Why would you go for 64 gigs if you can have 128 for $100 more and you're already in the next to highest price range?

I'd say there are the cheap people who get 16 gigs (= me with the mini), the somewhat less cheap people who want some space for apps and media who get 32 gigs, and the all out / pack-rat people who get 128 gigs (= me with the Air).

64 is just caught in between now.

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Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Maybe they have 64 GB devices and haven't found themselves bumping up against the limit.

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