Vagabundo posted:

Hyperriker posted:

fuckin

Gau posted:

If you don't enjoy "The Magnificent Ferengi," you don't enjoy life.

Tighclops posted:

ahahah holy gently caress, I know you're kidding around but this is the first time I've ever been accused of having no respect for the Canon. Usually I'm the nitpicky rear end in a top hat. I guess TrekBBS is still terrible? I must have gotten banned like 50 times from that place. I sometimes miss my old trolling persona "Fank Herb."

Vagabundo posted:

It's funny how there's a very vocal section of the posters on here who will go into a spittle-flying rage over the recent Star Trek movies, but will then just as quickly leap to the defence of Generations or Final Frontier, because apparently a couple of bits of corn vindicates the steaming pile of poo poo they were found in if there's been enough time between the present and whenever the movie was released.

Otisburg posted:

Quark out of water episode plus Iggy Pop. Your math checks out.

Timby posted:

I like both JJTrek movies and The Final Frontier.

Really, though, the only Trek movies I just can't sit through are III and Nemesis. First Contact and The Voyage Home are near the bottom of the pile, too.

Vagabundo posted:

Great_Gerbil posted:

Pure sarcasm, my friend.

I still think the slavish adherence to continuity is what hobbled the franchise. Well, that and awful writing on Voyager.

Seriously, you take 3 years away from "the formula" and then watch Enterprise. It's a whole different show than it was before. Suddenly there's nuance and an absurd amount of internal continuity. But we just came off 23 seasons of "the pros" doing their thing so it looks like really bad writing when Enterprise fucks up or does something silly.

I always found it ironic that some of the biggest complaints about Enterprise involved "canon" that was based on a few throwaway lines in the other series and the non-canon chronologies (which I admittedly ate up as a kid).

My wife and I have been watching through the series and there really have only been a handful of episodes we haven't enjoyed.

Gau posted:

If you don't enjoy "The Magnificent Ferengi," you don't enjoy life.

Skeesix posted:

I was thinking about the magnificent ferengi the other day. I bet the ferengi would be all over the idea of a western.

Big open spaces and lots of new opportunities to make cash.

I would love to see "For only a few Quatloos more." Especially if the title is said at some point by Nog's actor.

Brawnfire posted:

Is there a reason to go slower than warp 9? There doesn't seem to be any downside whatsoever to it in the TNG/DS9/VOY era. High speeds used to really stress the engines in Enterprise and TOS, but I don't see that being much of an issue most of the time in the other shows; it almost seems like there's an arbitrary selection of a warp factor when they set out.

Thwomp posted:

Actually, did they ever do a Voyager episode where one nacelle tilted but the other didn't and they tried to warp anyway?

Whalley posted:

I want to see Voyager go spinning off into warp really badly now.

Thwomp posted:

Here's another high Trek concept that's brought to its knees when you think about it: Instead of mass ship formations, why don't you just make kinetic impactors with warp-9 drives on them? Or just runabout-sized warp-9 capable torpedoes and fire them off when wars need fighting?

Brawnfire posted:

This would nicely increase the odds of Voyager smashing into an astral body at high-warp, which is of course a positive outcome to any hypothetical.

Whalley posted:

It's like in cricket. If you keep on alternating between your two fast bowlers, space gets used to what you're doing and Q shows up and there was that episode with the Ferengi in the delta quadrant where there's this perfect zoom on them saying "Grand Nagus?" and then you go warp 5 sometimes. Help.

I want to see Voyager go spinning off into warp really badly now.

Whalley posted:

It's like in cricket. If you keep on alternating between your two fast bowlers,

Thwomp posted:

Here's another high Trek concept that's brought to its knees when you think about it: Instead of mass ship formations, why don't you just make kinetic impactors with warp-9 drives on them? Or just runabout-sized warp-9 capable torpedoes and fire them off when wars need fighting?

Tighclops posted:

I think the biggest complaints about canon were basically "where romulans, these squishy guys/lizard people suck" and "why is everything only superficially different than Voyager which was boring" until the last season, where Coto embraced the premise and things suddenly got interesting. Time has definitely softened my view on the show, but overall it seems to waver between boring and desperation for me. I wish they had gotten a full 7 seasons like the other shows, ENT was doing more to earn it's place near the end than Voyager had during it's whole run. I also really liked the three-part format for telling more complex stories, they should have done that from the very start.

Also for all the complaints I had at the time it aired, the art direction in Enterprise is far more pleasant to look at than most things in JJTrek.

Thwomp posted:

Here's another high Trek concept that's brought to its knees when you think about it: Instead of mass ship formations, why don't you just make kinetic impactors with warp-9 drives on them? Or just runabout-sized warp-9 capable torpedoes and fire them off when wars need fighting?

Otisburg posted:

Didn't Enterprise set up like to make a big deal out of the first photon torpedo fired in anger literally bouncing off the enemy shields and exploding like a wet fart? I seem to remember that being a cute bit.

Otisburg posted:

Now I kind of want to look this up to get more context but can't seem to find it.

MikeJF posted:

In season 1 and 2 Enterprise used conventional explosive missiles with rocketry, which were hilariously easy to shoot down by the enemies.

At some point they got a good look at a derelict Klingon ship with photons and when they upgraded the ship in season 3 they stole the design.

Thwomp posted:

Here's another high Trek concept that's brought to its knees when you think about it: Instead of mass ship formations, why don't you just make kinetic impactors with warp-9 drives on them? Or just runabout-sized warp-9 capable torpedoes and fire them off when wars need fighting?

Nessus posted:

Warp drive works by producing a space distortion so you are effectively going faster than light but it's really more like your bubble of normal space is remaining still but is moving by going faster than light in practice.

Otisburg posted:

That's actually a cool idea.

I like the idea that humans came up with some tech independantly but a lot of stuff got stolen/appropriated/traded/gifted/espionaged.

Like non-retarded Pakleds

Sash! posted:

I liked that STID finally had someone try to knock someone else out of the warp bubble.

I mean like that's the most obvious possible course of action when engaging an enemy at warp.

Count Chocula posted:

What's stopping The Founders from just being The Thing? Don't say 'SFX budget' since The Thing was mostly practical.

Great_Gerbil posted:

I enjoyed that it was implied they eventually got shields from the Andorians instead of the polarized hull plating that was, admittedly, functionally the same as raising shields but seemed to give out faster.

Great_Gerbil posted:

I really like that tech in the Abramsverse seems to have progressed down a different technological path than the prime universe. Weaker sensors, larger ships, less reliance on transporters, etc.

Otisburg posted:

That's actually a cool idea.

I like the idea that humans came up with some tech independantly but a lot of stuff got stolen/appropriated/traded/gifted/espionaged.

Like non-retarded Pakleds