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The Unnamed One posted:I think dragon shrinkage has more to do with the Maesters trying to kill magic (which is tied to them somehow), but there are trees that feed on blood and general misery in this hosed up world, so why not. As the poster above me said, it has to do with being a free range dragon. The small dragons were kept in that pit area of kings landing.
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Lazareth posted:As the poster above me said, it has to do with being a free range dragon. In any case, Drogon was ALWAYS the biggest, even before Mereen and possible people eating. Maybe he's just bigger. Maybe the other two are females and Drogon is the only male. Maybe the other two are males and Drogon is the only FEMALE (in some reptile species the female is substantially bigger), they refer to all the dragons as male but who the gently caress knows how to determine sex in a giant flying magic monster that breathes fire. Being free range allowed Drogon to avoid getting stunted, but he was bigger to begin with.
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Aemon said that the dragons are genderless. Maybe he means they're intersex or just missing sexual organs at birth, then develop into a gender later somehow, in which case a difference in gender might explain their behaviour. Or maybe all dragons are really aggressive, and Dany keeping them chained was the only way to prevent them from eating her followers. Their size though definitely depends on if they were caged or allowed to roam free though. e: According to the asoiaf wiki, Maester Aemon also said that dragons are “now one and now the other, as changeable as flame.” Narmi fucked around with this message at 13:40 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 12:42
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Narmi posted:
Simultaneous Hermaphrodites all the way baby! Or it could be sequential, like in clown fish where the biggest member of a group is female and if she dies, the biggest male gets to be the new lady. Dragon biology
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Nov 15, 2013 13:54
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I wouldn't be surprised if the scene about Drogon eating a child is the last Dany scene for her this season. It could make for a dramatic cliffhanger of sorts. It's at least better than Jesus Dany.
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Narmi posted:Aemon said that the dragons are genderless. Maybe he means they're intersex or just missing sexual organs at birth, then develop into a gender later somehow, in which case a difference in gender might explain their behaviour. Gender and sex are not interchangeable synonyms  . Gender is a human social construct.
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Nov 15, 2013 19:12
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CumFart Gurantee posted:Gender and sex are not interchangeable synonyms  are you going to get this pedantic on discussions of the sexual organs of Dany's dragons
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Nov 15, 2013 19:54
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Dany's black dragon is named Susan. Please respect its life choices.
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Nov 15, 2013 20:00
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In later seasons Drogon will be featured wearing a gender neutral pant suit. Speaking of masculine and femine features on the show, one thing I found interesting over the seasons was the wardrobe changes for Dany. In season 3, as she takes big steps towards becoming a "commander" of sorts, her wardrobe seems to reflect that with pants rather than a dress. With the exception of Arya I don't recall really seeing any other female character not in a dress. Of course it would also make sense to not wear a dress in the desert but this show has focused so much on getting the wardrobes to reflect the character I doubt that was coincidence.
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Nov 15, 2013 20:07
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What about brienne or ygritte... ;-)
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lifts cats over head posted:In later seasons Drogon will be featured wearing a gender neutral pant suit. Brienne and Ygritte, though they both have adopted a more aggressive lifestyle than all the other female characters (plus wearing a dress in the snow is probably impractical).
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Nov 15, 2013 20:24
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lifts cats over head posted:With the exception of Arya I don't recall really seeing any other female character not in a dress. Wait, 'naked' counts as 'not in a dress', right?
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Nov 15, 2013 20:25
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Isn't Brienne's most iconic scene her in a dress? I feel like it comes up all the time that she looks even WORSE somehow when in a dress.
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fleshweasel posted:
 e: I forgot all about AleXXXstraza from WoW 
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Nov 15, 2013 23:01
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Check your human privilege.
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Implying that animals don't have genders ("aren't gendered"... oh my) implies that no animal species has specific societal roles typically assigned to individuals with a specific sex. Most species of primates have societies in which males and females occupy different societal roles which can thus be defined as gender roles. With that said, this is a terrible discussion an no one cares. Dragons are not animals.
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Nov 15, 2013 23:12
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So basically Essos is Jurassic Park and magic finds a way.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:Dragons are not animals. They're minerals.
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Jesus christ.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:They're minerals. emanresu tnuocca posted:Jesus christ. 
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DeepQantas posted:So basically Essos is Jurassic Park and magic finds a way. How would you even know whether a dragon is male or female? I mean does Dany have someone go out around Mereen and pull up all the dragons' skirts?
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A little earlier I saw the thread was discussing the inconsistency with the Ironborn and the "Iron price" and I was just paging through CoK and came across a curious bit. Tyrion comes across a letter from Balon Greyjoy proposing an alliance with the Lannisters as long as they recognize his independence and his supremacy over the North. But, uh, what? Balon carries on this long held grudge against the Starks and the forces that smashed his first rebellion, but not the """Baratheons""" (false as Joffrey may be) holding the Iron Throne? And any sort of alliance in the first place seems very anti-Iron Price. I don't know this just seemed odd to me, and I don't know if it gets mentioned again.
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Mike N Eich posted:A little earlier I saw the thread was discussing the inconsistency with the Ironborn and the "Iron price" and I was just paging through CoK and came across a curious bit. Tyrion comes across a letter from Balon Greyjoy proposing an alliance with the Lannisters as long as they recognize his independence and his supremacy over the North. But, uh, what? Balon carries on this long held grudge against the Starks and the forces that smashed his first rebellion, but not the """Baratheons""" (false as Joffrey may be) holding the Iron Throne? And any sort of alliance in the first place seems very anti-Iron Price. I don't know this just seemed odd to me, and I don't know if it gets mentioned again. I think it's a simple case of the enemy of my enemy is my friend. The focus of his ire is directed at the Starks because Ned led the forces that crushed the Greyjoy Rebellion, killed his sons, and took his remaining son hostage. Also, I don't think the Iron Price ever applied to anything as complex kingdoms at war.
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Mike N Eich posted:A little earlier I saw the thread was discussing the inconsistency with the Ironborn and the "Iron price" and I was just paging through CoK and came across a curious bit. Tyrion comes across a letter from Balon Greyjoy proposing an alliance with the Lannisters as long as they recognize his independence and his supremacy over the North. But, uh, what? Balon carries on this long held grudge against the Starks and the forces that smashed his first rebellion, but not the """Baratheons""" (false as Joffrey may be) holding the Iron Throne? And any sort of alliance in the first place seems very anti-Iron Price. I don't know this just seemed odd to me, and I don't know if it gets mentioned again. At that point, wasn't Robb winning? Balon would be able to get more favourable terms from the Lannisters, and Joffrey might very well have accepted them since he didn't seem to care for what he viewed as a "frozen wasteland." Regardless of how he feels towards Robert, he would end up with half the kingdom. Letting that go for a 10 year old grudge would be ridiculous, even for someone who thinks everyone should pay the iron price. That's assuming Balon even intends to keep his word - he could very well be planning to conquer an undefended North and wait for the Lannisters to spend their forces fighting Robb while he build up a land army to take on the Lannisters.
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Narmi posted:Brienne and Ygritte, though they both have adopted a more aggressive lifestyle than all the other female characters (plus wearing a dress in the snow is probably impractical). And Asha! (I mean... Yara.) And Meera! Osha also has trousers on underneath a long, dress-like garment. So basically any woman who needs to be able to run and climb and hike and fight.
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Jabbu posted:How would you even know whether a dragon is male or female? I mean does Dany have someone go out around Mereen and pull up all the dragons' skirts? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reproductive_system#Reptiles posted:Reptiles are almost all sexually dimorphic, and exhibit internal fertilization through the cloaca. Some reptiles lay eggs while others are viviparous (animals that deliver live young). Reproductive organs are found within the cloaca of reptiles. Most male reptiles have copulatory organs, which are usually retracted or inverted and stored inside the body. In turtles and crocodilians, the male has a single median penis-like organ, while male snakes and lizards each possess a pair of penis-like organs. And because I didn't know what the gently caress 'the cloaca' is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloaca posted:In zoological anatomy, a cloaca /kloʊˈeɪkə/ is the posterior opening that serves as the only opening for the intestinal, reproductive, and urinary tracts of certain animal species. All amphibians, birds, reptiles, and monotremes possess this orifice, from which they excrete both urine and feces, unlike most placental mammals, which possess two or three separate orifices for evacuation. So they just have everything in their butts. Somebody fucked around with this message at 10:00 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Don't ostriches keep their urine and feces separate? I thought they were the only bird in existence that doesn't dump out a single white and brown concoction all over your freshly washed car. This is very important to my understanding of George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire.
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And you guys call GURM perverted... 
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Nov 16, 2013 09:02
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Seriously. Jesus Christ, I clicked on this thread and wondered what had gone wrong with my computer that I was staring at bird butthole.
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Natural animal anatomy is several degrees more perverted than the TV series which had a main character asking a side character to "play with her arse".
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Nov 16, 2013 11:42
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Look at all these city folks.
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Please sign my petition to clothe all animals.
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Nov 16, 2013 12:36
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Moridin920 posted:And because I didn't know what the gently caress 'the cloaca' is: Whoaaaaa, NWS that poo poo, jesus, or FYAD will get you demodded and banned 
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Moridin920 posted:And because I didn't know what the gently caress 'the cloaca' is: I don't know what you were trying to do with this post, but if you were trying to make some kind of point you probably should have linked that image. Nobody wants to see that.
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My bad I didn't really see a problem since I figured we've all seen birds from the back but alright.
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It's juts bird butt, not like someone was licking it or anything.
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Here's a nice Christmas gift idea for any bird pervs on your list: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QxXg3iuHvw&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Jesus loving christ can you call gently caress off back to tumbler with your gender freak out bullshit.
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I don't think any of us saw that post coming
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BlindSite posted:Jesus loving christ can you call gently caress off back to tumbler with your gender freak out bullshit. QTIYD
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