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Cardiovorax posted:Alas, no chairs. Lots and lots and loving lots of corpses, though. Seriously, NPCs right now are kinda mental. At the slightest provocation they'll flip out and start butchering everything around them. I was knee deep in animal corpses after sleeping through my first night. I don't have NPCs turned on, they're monsters I think, just skinned to look like NPCs. Also, shia drops tainted meat when you butcher him 
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Is there a list of traits that are still broken / don't actually do anything? I keep finding forum threads or wiki articles that say (for instance) "oh don't take Fast Learner, Skill Comprehension is broken and any value above 100% is useless," etc, but most of them are months old so I have even less of an idea what's still accurate. EDIT: Did the knife-spear get nerfed to uselessness in 0.9 or did they just refactor damage numbers? I mean I guess I'll find out after using one for a while but it'd be nice to have confirmation. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 16, 2013 |
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Nov 16, 2013 20:25
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Cardiovorax posted:Alas, no chairs. Lots and lots and loving lots of corpses, though. Seriously, NPCs right now are kinda mental. At the slightest provocation they'll flip out and start butchering everything around them. I was knee deep in animal corpses after sleeping through my first night. Yeah... I had an NPC in my evac shelter tell me to kill his zombified mom, he then proceeds to go on, what I assume to be, a several day rampage around the shelter. Seriously, until I finished the quest he was going from one animal to the next fighting them. Then I turn in the quest and ask him to train me and he says "Let's go to a safe place." On the way there we (he) sees a bear and flips his loving poo poo again and gets himself mauled. Now I have an unfinishable quest in my log  R.I.P. Juan.
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Nov 16, 2013 21:52
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You're lucky, all my NPC's do is to randomly decide to do something the game can't deal with, spamming me with hundreds of "NPCname has tried to eat a lighter" messages or whatever.
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Nov 16, 2013 22:07
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Capilarean posted:You're lucky, all my NPC's do is to randomly decide to do something the game can't deal with, spamming me with hundreds of "NPCname has tried to eat a lighter" messages or whatever. Hahaha that sounds somewhat entertaining.
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Nov 17, 2013 00:22
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It's funny how you can still dodge/block melee hits while you're sleeping. A sewer rat sneaked into my bedroom and started attacking me, but I was wielding a katana when I went to bed (as a goon should  ) and kept blocking every single hit. I ended up gaining something like six levels of dodge from two of these encounters.
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Speaking of sleeping, does 0.9 seem significantly laggier while sleeping/reading/waiting for anyone else? EDIT: This might be a question of location rather than version, are there any monsters that generate way more calculations / tile alterations or something? Giant slugs, maybe? Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Nov 17, 2013 02:06
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Windows? Yeah, it's almost as bad as it used to be before they released the SDL version. Reading, crafting and sleeping all crawl along now.
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Nov 17, 2013 02:27
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Yeah, I'm on windows. The lag disappears if I sleep or read underground, but I don't have permanent lighting installed so it's not much of a solution.
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Nov 17, 2013 03:55
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Disassemble a edit: for not UK. tooterfish fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Nov 17, 2013 04:01
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Wandered into a evac shelter and flicked on my flashlight. What the loving gently caress is going on here?
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Nov 17, 2013 07:18
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Jeesis posted:Wandered into a evac shelter and flicked on my flashlight. What the loving gently caress is going on here? I don't know, but I'd butcher those corpses before they get back up, and thank god you basically won the Evac jackpot. Also, is this a brand new game? Have you ever stockpiled poo poo into a shelter before, that transfers over saves.
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Nov 17, 2013 07:28
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I think part of the revamp included making evac shelters have useful poo poo in them more often then never, but like basements, probably went a little too far.
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Nov 17, 2013 07:35
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Turtlicious posted:I don't know, but I'd butcher those corpses before they get back up, and thank god you basically won the Evac jackpot. Also, is this a brand new game? Have you ever stockpiled poo poo into a shelter before, that transfers over saves. No this is the second shelter I have been to so it is not the spawn one. I already have way too many supplies after clearing out the local hospital, I got covered in more bile than a porn star.
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Nov 17, 2013 07:36
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Is there a way to pick up partial stacks? I end up with gigantic piles of things like batteries or paper that forces me to "wield" then as to not go in my inventory, and I can't drop partial stacks of things I'm holding.
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Nov 17, 2013 08:08
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Advanced inventory allows you to pick up partial stacks now. Drop the item on the ground, use advanced inventory to move it and you should be able to specify how much you want to move. Also what the hell is up with that basement.
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Nov 17, 2013 08:18
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Jeesis posted:No this is the second shelter I have been to so it is not the spawn one. I already have way too many supplies after clearing out the local hospital, I got covered in more bile than a porn star. There is now a small chance that an evac shelter will spawn with zombies and a bunch of loot in it. The idea being that there is a risk/reward for taking on the zombies early to get at the loot. However, given how easy it is to lure the zombies upstairs and clobber them while they climb over a counter, it's a bit unbalanced at the moment.
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Nov 17, 2013 10:37
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Junkfist posted:I end up with gigantic piles of things like batteries or paper that forces me to "wield" then as to not go in my inventory, and I can't drop partial stacks of things I'm holding. When you're in the drop menu you can type a number before the letter of the item you want to drop for partial stack drop. But / is pretty convenient too. e: realized you said things you were wielding, not things in general. Guess I should test that...
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Nov 17, 2013 10:37
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JosephWongKS posted:Where can you find solar cells? Easiest way is to take them off car wrecks. If you see an electric car will yellow X or # it should have some solar cells on it.
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Nov 17, 2013 12:08
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JosephWongKS posted:Where can you find solar cells? I've also seen them spawn in Garages occasionally, but Electric Car wrecks are much more common.
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Nov 17, 2013 12:15
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How do you guys like your guns? I want to try out bows on this character, but apparently they're more suited to medium-range fighting than sniping, so I'll get a nice sniper rifle for that. Rifles seem to have gotten more love in terms of variety and modifications too. What about the rest of the guns, though? I remember reading about how handguns don't live up to their potential with how the game models combat and shotguns cause more trouble than they can solve thanks to their noise. Are SMGs worth holding on to even with good melee weapons?
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With the very best bow and about 12 strength, bows can match the range of rifles. With enough mechanics skill you can also make pneumatic crossbows that the gun mods can be used on, although I'm not as much of a fan of those. Shotguns aren't that much of a problem in static mode, because there's a limit to how many zombies there are in an area. Handguns seem to do surprisingly little at times, but I'm of the opinion that any sort of ranged attack is better than melee unless you're really good at it. That said, you probably won't get much use out of archery until you can make heavy wood arrows at the very least, anything weaker does crap damage and has a high chance of simply bouncing off some of the heavier armored enemies. That said I usually put most of my points in ranged stats so your experience may vary. Inadequately fucked around with this message at 12:40 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Handguns are perfectly valid weapons to use at very close range. Even without any skill I've found it's possible to kill mundane zombies with only one or two shots from a .45 so long as the zombie is only 1 or so tiles away or directly adjacent. Just look at them as a melee weapon with a greatly reduced possibility that the zombie will have the chance to take a swing at you, and SMGs are just handguns that you can fire way faster. So long as you don't go waltzing into the dead center of a town or otherwise aren't able to outrun zombies, weapon noise isn't ever that big of a problem.
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Having a shotgun ensures that if you ever do get into an 'Oh poo poo' situation, you have something that will pretty much annihilate anything in your path. Using it as a default weapon when scouting for supplies isn't advised, especially if you're undetected, but when a Hulk is in your face a shotgun will take it down no trouble. Personally, I carry a sawn-off that gives you a low volume shotgun with two shots you can get out and blow away something heavy if it stands in your way. At very long ranges a high powered rifle totally outclasses a bow in range and damage, and with some skill you can take out hordes from 60~ tiles away. I've levelled rifles with the Pneumatic Crossbow and then with a Savage 111F could accurately hit zombies at max range, with a pause to let recoil go down. I think the realistic max range of best bows/arrows and 12 strength is around 30 tiles. Compared to a rifle I think you max out at around 75. (Which is further than you can see typically) SMGs are cool when used in burst fire as intended. You can target up to around 3 zombies and maybe kill them all with a good burst SMG so they certainly have their uses. They also eat ammo very quickly. And as said before handguns are pretty much close range weapons but are still effective for normal zombies and better than melee on a ranged character. I'd agree that Bows are very much a mid range fighting weapon than a sniper rifle. Strumpie fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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I started playing this on 0.8 and decided to check out 0.9. Is there any reason that the new default tileset on 0.9 is so much smaller? Is there a way to make it bigger? I've changed the viewport size but that hasn't helped. I liked the size of the default tileset on 0.8 (Deon?) but I guess it hasn't been updated in a while so it's missing quite a bit. I know I can change 0.9 to deon but I figured it's better to stick with whichever one will be more up to date.
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Othin posted:I started playing this on 0.8 and decided to check out 0.9. Is there any reason that the new default tileset on 0.9 is so much smaller? Is there a way to make it bigger? I've changed the viewport size but that hasn't helped. I liked the size of the default tileset on 0.8 (Deon?) but I guess it hasn't been updated in a while so it's missing quite a bit. Tilesets are still behind but are getting better. I'm still not sure which you're on but SirHoder's has been supplanted by Tsutiles made at 16x16 so they should give you a wide view field. I don't use tilesets so someone else might be able to help more.
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Jeesis posted:Wandered into a evac shelter and flicked on my flashlight. What the loving gently caress is going on here? Looks to me like you found one of your old character's stash houses.
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They should probably take out the bug that lets you dodge/block while sleeping. I set up a base in the shelter, and lured a sewer rat in. In the day I shut him in the basement and go about my work, and in the night I equip a pipe and let him out. it's been a few days and my dodge is over forty now. I'm considering clearing out the rest of this city with melee only. VVV Well, I usually play ranged characters,so I rarely ever even consider dodging. If anything gets close enough to hit me, I'm probably doing something wrong. Inadequately fucked around with this message at 20:50 on Nov 17, 2013 |
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Belasarius posted:Looks to me like you found one of your old character's stash houses. Then again, there are people who make characters purely to run into town to grab loot and stash it for other characters... twinking in a roguelike, bloody sacrilege! Inadequately posted:They should probably take out the bug that lets you dodge/block while sleeping. I set up a base in the shelter, and lured a sewer rat in. In the day I shut him in the basement and go about my work, and in the night I equip a pipe and let him out. it's been a few days and my dodge is over forty now. I'm considering clearing out the rest of this city with melee only.
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T-man posted:
They could make it a trait! Your character has psychopathy, and feels no morale loss at all this killing!
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So what's the trick to tackle a military base? I can't get in close without the turrets shredding me...
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For the first time ever since I started playing this game, I've finally managed to make a character which survived long enough to think about building a vehicle (thus my question about the solar cells). I wasn't able to find any answers to the following questions on the Cataclysm wiki and would appreciate your replies on the same. 1. Is there any benefit to installing more than one car battery in your vehicle? 2. Does the battery and/or gasoline tank need to be installed next to the engine? 3. Should engines be installed on the inside of the vehicle or on the outside / perimeter of the vehicle? 4. Is there a difference in speed, fuel consumption and/or maneuverability if your vehicle has smaller wheels vs larger wheels? 5. Is there a difference in speed, fuel consumption and/or maneuverability if your vehicle has less wheels vs more wheels? 6. Is there any downside to installing as many solar panels / storage batteries as you can find?
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The RECAPITATOR posted:So what's the trick to tackle a military base? I can't get in close without the turrets shredding me... That one's easy. The turrets only fire if you're 24 tiles or less away from them. Stand 25 tiles away and fire at them with any rifle. Don't forget to let the recoil run its course between shots.
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JosephWongKS posted:For the first time ever since I started playing this game, I've finally managed to make a character which survived long enough to think about building a vehicle (thus my question about the solar cells). I wasn't able to find any answers to the following questions on the Cataclysm wiki and would appreciate your replies on the same. 1.Yes, it increases storage capacity, more solar panels increases recharge rate. 2.No, they can be placed anywhere you're capable of installing them in the vehicle. (Unless something has changed incredibly recently) 3.I prefer to install them inside so they're protected from collisions. 4.I don't believe so, but I'm not a 100% on that. 5.As long as you have the minimum number needed I don't believe there's a difference, but having more is nice for redundancy. 6.I'd save some solar panels for repairs instead of slapping them all on, because they'll shatter at the slightest tap, but there's no real penalty for it.
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Anyone else on windows noticing the latest stable being really slow and glitchy? I keep getting interrupted by debug messages and can only move a few tiles a second.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:That one's easy. The turrets only fire if you're 24 tiles or less away from them. Stand 25 tiles away and fire at them with any rifle. Don't forget to let the recoil run its course between shots. well poo poo. thanks
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Killer-of-Lawyers posted:Anyone else on windows noticing the latest stable being really slow and glitchy? I keep getting interrupted by debug messages and can only move a few tiles a second. Constant error messages is (usually) a result of turning debug options on (NPCs, especially), but yes, independent of that 0.9 is aggravatingly slow and I'm sticking with 0.8 until it improves.
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The RECAPITATOR posted:So what's the trick to tackle a military base? I can't get in close without the turrets shredding me... Go in at night with a gun, they glow.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Constant error messages is (usually) a result of turning debug options on (NPCs, especially), but yes, independent of that 0.9 is aggravatingly slow and I'm sticking with 0.8 until it improves. Considering how ancient my laptop is at this point, I'm surprised that it runs near flawlessly for me, I haven't had any problems yet.
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