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The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever

Stupid Post Maker posted:

Oh well. How is the job anyway? Any complaints? Are you sticking around for longer than a season? Like I said, someone from my school worked there and the pictures he put on Facebook were always interesting.

It's good, I'm probably sticking around for awhile. I can't say I have no complaints, the biggest problem is the lack of autonomy. The office tries to micromanage everything and they miss the big picture. There's a lot of waste and inefficiency as a result and some real headscratcher decisions (Plane in maintenance going to last several days on the day I'm supposed to travel home, but I don't get a flight til 6pm and get home at like 11:30pacific (2:30am local for me since I was on DC time)... why not an earlier flight. The other complaint, and it's not really their fault, is you don't get a lot of hours. It's a poor time-builder. They vary, so far my average is about 35/mo but that includes the summer and that figure is steadily dropping, I'm pacing to hit like 8 hours only this month and winter is not gonna be great for that. It's hard to feel proficient when I'm flying this little. And you have to like sitting in hotels. Every week varies though, if you're in SoCal in the summer you're gonna be flying 8 hours a day every day. Compared to most other flying jobs, it's pretty cushy and it's great for lazy people, or in my case it's been great for finishing my BS (I have 3 classes left to go for a BS in aeronautics with two minors from riddle worldwide). At 500 hours if you're trying to build time to do something though, it would take a long long time to get that time. In my case I had 900 hours when I came over. When you are actually flying, you're often in bravo airspace that GA won't usually get into, so that can be pretty cool, and you get pretty close to major airports/airliner jets (the magic words here are "traffic in sight, we'll maintain visual separation" and ATC will let you do anything.

The Slaughter fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Nov 17, 2013

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The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever
Hate to double post, but whatever.
Stolen from APC, which was stolen from AVCanada:

quote:

The steady thrum of the mighty P-dubs drone incessantly into the night. I am almost oblivious to their presence as I maintain my vigil, patrolling 121.5 from Timmins to Toronto like a pacing Doberman. The toothpick rides up front, balanced on my lower lip just above the soul patch, the tip vibrating like a tuning fork. A sudden burst of static flares out of the #2 radio, causing the adrenaline to race madly for a split second before subsiding. The toothpick shoots up like a power antenna and then lays flat once more, waiting patiently for the next intrusion. “Easy, my friend”, I mutter under my breath. “They’ll be back….”

“Whas that?” The left seat warmer emerges from behind his papery tent of Globe and Mail, an inquisitive look on his face. “You say sumpin?” I wave him away impatiently and return to the task at hand. You see, chaps, I have no time for such frivolous recreational pursuits such as reading when flying. My mission is far bolder and my purpose clear: I am a self-trained, highly experienced member of the guard police. In fact, if the guard police handed out ranks, I would probably be a corporal. To date, I have over 2367 confirmed penalized violations on 121.5, all swiftly punished by my ruthless and relentless curt radio transmission: “YOU’RE ON GUARD!!” These three powerful words smite violators like a scimitar, laying bare your error for all of your peers to judge. No matter if you are a hapless student pilot calling final on the wrong radio, or a chubby corporate flyer calling ahead for a lav dump at the FBO, nobody escapes my swift intervention into your shocking transgression. I consider it a personal travesty that a trained professional could be so irresponsible to transmit on the wrong freq, and delight in clenching the transmit button and snarling my stern correction from my listening post in the Dash. I’m like an AWACS in that sense, gents.
I pause from my post briefly and watch the lights of Sudbury slide by in the inky blackness. Maybe everyone will behave tonight and maintain strict radio protocol after all. I make a routine entry in the guard police black notebook. 2230 local. All is quiet.

And then it happens.
A heavy Korean accent making a position report. Stammering and stumbling over fuel quantities, time over, next waypoints….and all on 121.5! The mullet curls up in anger like an epic wave, and the toothpick stands straight up at attention, vibrating like a guitar string. My fingers twitch over the mic button, waiting for the horrific crescendo to be complete. Excitement pummels the seat cushion beneath me as the flight deck fills with a gaseous explosion consisting of limburger cheese, baked beans and broccoli. The Left Seat Warmer slumps over, grasping for the wemac, the Globe and Mail flapping feebly like a limp sail!

Silence now, but only for a second. I stab the mic button with a sweaty grasp and howl my protest into the northern Ontario darkness. I bellow my distaste in a hail of abuse and rage. “On guard! On guard! YOU ARE ON GUARDDDDD!!!”

I release the mike and slump back in my seat heavily. Another successful round of punishment issued. I scratch the number with pride in my little black notebook: 2368.
Watch those transmissions out there, blokes. I’ll be listening. Notebook in hand.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

The Slaughter posted:

Hate to double post, but whatever.
Stolen from APC, which was stolen from AVCanada:

If it weren't from Canada, I'd say I work with that guy.

Freshwater Louie
Jun 22, 2004

fffffffff
Only scrubs keep a close listen on 121.5. All the cool kids listen to all the terrible position reports and radio shenanigans on 126.7.

Rank Bajin
Mar 21, 2005

Eureka! In a few minutes I shall be free of the pull of the earth's gravity.

Dominoes posted:

Do you dudes know how to find exact coordinates for UK IFR waypoints? Ie triangles on charts. I can find lots of info online about airfields and navaids, but not waypoints. Skyvector finds them, but can't give exact coordinages. For example, ROVUS. I found this and thisbut they seem incomplete.

You should be able to find details of all significant points in ENR 4.4 of the UK AIP.

ausgezeichnet
Sep 18, 2005

In my country this is definitely not offensive!
Nap Ghost

MrYenko posted:

If it weren't from Canada, I'd say I work with that guy.

loving guard nazis. A uniquely North American phenomenon.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Was driving out of Atlanta today south on 85 and passed the approach end of one of the runways there. Pretty bleak weather. I don't know what the mins are but the ceiling was hanging pretty low Just in time to see what looked like a 737 bounce through a few clouds and hit the MAP and zoom off. Even neater was that it was humid enough that his vortices were visible for a good time after he pulled out. I watched them form and drove by them and they were still there.

Leads me to a question: what approaches do airlines prefer? All ILS?

The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever
Well, they probably prefer the visual :P but in instrument conditions, an ILS is preferred.

Dominoes
Sep 20, 2007

Rank Bajin posted:

You should be able to find details of all significant points in ENR 4.4 of the UK AIP.
Thanks; this is what I'm looking for.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

Bob A Feet posted:

Leads me to a question: what approaches do airlines prefer? All ILS?

I agree with Slaughter, but would add that if the aircrew/aicraft is capable, RNAV approaches do about a good a job as Cat I ILS approaches for getting planes down from the weather.

The newer RNAV RNP approaches are supposedly even more convenient for certain airliners, but I've only ever observed Southwest flying those approaches, and not even all of their planes can do it.

The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever

azflyboy posted:

Why is the turning error on the compass about 30 degrees? (It's approximately the latitude the aircraft is at)

I was asked this on my CFII by a DPE named Duncan Hastie and he was extremely unhappy that I didn't know it was related to latitude, boy did I hear it. Thankfully the rest of my instrument knowledge was solid enough.

brendanwor
Sep 7, 2005

The Ferret King posted:

I agree with Slaughter, but would add that if the aircrew/aicraft is capable, RNAV approaches do about a good a job as Cat I ILS approaches for getting planes down from the weather.

The newer RNAV RNP approaches are supposedly even more convenient for certain airliners, but I've only ever observed Southwest flying those approaches, and not even all of their planes can do it.

RNAVs won't get you down as low as an ILS though. Also you don't have the benefit of a fully coupled approach.

brendanwor fucked around with this message at 07:20 on Nov 19, 2013

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
Our RNAV approaches have DAs of 200ft AGL, and RVR of 2400, which is as low as our ILS goes. Maybe other places are different.

EDIT: I'll also add that none of the airports I've worked have had Cat II or III ILSes. Those are certainly a benefit over RNAV approaches when available.

The Ferret King fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Nov 19, 2013

Freshwater Louie
Jun 22, 2004

fffffffff

The Ferret King posted:

Our RNAV approaches have DAs of 200ft AGL, and RVR of 2400, which is as low as our ILS goes. Maybe other places are different.

Are the ones that match the ILS LPV or LNAV/VNAV minimums?

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
LPV. LNAV and LNAV/VNAV mins are higher.

Stupid Post Maker
Jan 8, 2008

atehist posted:

Are the ones that match the ILS LPV or LNAV/VNAV minimums?

LPV

Freshwater Louie
Jun 22, 2004

fffffffff
Bad phrasing on my part. I was trying to ask him what the RNAV minimums at his airport were which would explain the CAT 1 similarities. :doh:

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
200ft and RVR 2400 for the RNAV LPV to most of our runways. This matches the minima for both our ILS approaches exactly. It offers a lower minima than the Localizer approach to another runway. On the runway served only by a VOR approach, it's actually a little worse (no LPV minima) due to obstructions in the way.

Freshwater Louie
Jun 22, 2004

fffffffff

The Ferret King posted:

200ft and RVR 2400 for the RNAV LPV to most of our runways. This matches the minima for both our ILS approaches exactly. It offers a lower minima than the Localizer approach to another runway. On the runway served only by a VOR approach, it's actually a little worse (no LPV minima) due to obstructions in the way.

That would explain the similarities. Most LPV approaches provide minima close to or as good as ILS CAT 1.

In other news, no flying today:

33036G42KT 0SM R35/0700FT/N -SN +BLSN VV001



The far rocks are about 30 feet in front of me. The visibility drops off entirely after that. :toot:

sleepy gary
Jan 11, 2006

atehist posted:

That would explain the similarities. Most LPV approaches provide minima close to or as good as ILS CAT 1.

In other news, no flying today:

33036G42KT 0SM R35/0700FT/N -SN +BLSN VV001



The far rocks are about 30 feet in front of me. The visibility drops off entirely after that. :toot:

That's a pretty rough looking runway.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

atehist posted:

That would explain the similarities. Most LPV approaches provide minima close to or as good as ILS CAT 1.

In other news, no flying today:

33036G42KT 0SM R35/0700FT/N -SN +BLSN VV001

[timg]http://i.imgur.com/BmwSG9W.jpg?1[timg]

The far rocks are about 30 feet in front of me. The visibility drops off entirely after that. :toot:
Only gusting 42? Kick it and stick it, wuss. :colbert:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON

e.pie posted:

Only gusting 42? Kick it and stick it, wuss. :colbert:

Apparently my classmate was cancelled at 29019G27KT today.

I was cancelled cause the plane I booked is still in maintence for a 1000 hr check.

fordan
Mar 9, 2009

Clue: Zero
FAA wants a mandatory sleep apnea test if you're fat. :toot:

http://www.aopa.org/News-and-Video/All-News/2013/November/18/aopa-asks-faa-to-suspend-implementation-of-new-sleep-apnea-policy.aspx

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

non-fat crew ftw :worship:

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008
THE HATE CRIME DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Well poo poo, now I really need to lose more weight.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it


quote:

“This policy seems to be based on one incident involving an airline flight. In that case, the crew fell asleep and missed their destination but woke up and landed safely,” said Rob Hackman, AOPA vice president of regulatory affairs.

No, buddy, that's not it. Everybody affected, say "THANKS COLGAN!"

(I had to have a sleep apnea test in January because I had constant daytime drowsiness that had gotten intolerable. My AME heard this was coming and said it was a witchhunt because, even though they can never prove it, the NTSB/FAA assume the captain in Colgan 3407 had sleep apnea. Because he was fat.)

Though really, don't mess around with sleep apnea. It's scary. If anybody's going to have a sleep apnea test done, I can answer questions, because I've had two. Protip: Don't wear long pants of any kind to bed.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Confirming you shouldn't mess around with sleep apnea, and frankly I can see the FAA's point in this one. I once rear-ended someone (thankfully at low speed) because I nodded off at the wheel due to severe untreated sleep apnea. I basically had narcolepsy for a couple of years until I finally got health insurance that covered a sleep study and CPAP machine.

Does anyone know what "treatment" the FAA is demanding? Do you have to get surgery, or can you just use a CPAP?

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?

CBJSprague24 posted:

Though really, don't mess around with sleep apnea. It's scary. If anybody's going to have a sleep apnea test done, I can answer questions, because I've had two. Protip: Don't wear long pants of any kind to bed.

I'm not a risk for it, but that piqued my interest in it. Why no long pants? Blood flow restriction?

The Slaughter
Jan 28, 2002

cat scratch fever
http://www.faa.gov/pilots/safety/pilotsafetybrochures/media/Sleep_Apnea.pdf

If you experience one or more symptoms of obstructive sleep apnea, it is
recommended that you consult a physician, since OSA treatment scores a
very high success rate. What about your medical certificate? If your OSA is
treatable, you can maintain your airman medical certificate and continue to
enjoy your aviation career. However, flying with untreated OSA constitutes
an unnecessary risk and can become a safety-of-flight issue.


I am overweight, but not 40 BMI fortunately. Sounds like they'll be coming for me anyway eventually though as they lower the BMI standards. I sleep on my side, which it sounds like significantly lowers your risk.

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck

eriktown posted:

Confirming you shouldn't mess around with sleep apnea, and frankly I can see the FAA's point in this one. I once rear-ended someone (thankfully at low speed) because I nodded off at the wheel due to severe untreated sleep apnea. I basically had narcolepsy for a couple of years until I finally got health insurance that covered a sleep study and CPAP machine.

Does anyone know what "treatment" the FAA is demanding? Do you have to get surgery, or can you just use a CPAP?

You can get a special issuance after jumping through some hoops. I'm not aware of all the specifics, but using a CPAP with a memory card that will record the use is one avenue the FAA may pursue. They'll want the memory card sent to them at regular intervals to make sure you're using the machine. It's about the most invasive thing I know of for FAA medicals.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

eriktown posted:

Confirming you shouldn't mess around with sleep apnea, and frankly I can see the FAA's point in this one. I once rear-ended someone (thankfully at low speed) because I nodded off at the wheel due to severe untreated sleep apnea. I basically had narcolepsy for a couple of years until I finally got health insurance that covered a sleep study and CPAP machine.

Does anyone know what "treatment" the FAA is demanding? Do you have to get surgery, or can you just use a CPAP?

My AME said you have to do something about it (surgery to correct and/or get a mouthpiece/CPAP) AND get checked out by a certified sleep
specialist annually. The specialist signs off if you've been using your device, which allows you to keep your medical.

Rolo posted:

I'm not a risk for it, but that piqued my interest in it. Why no long pants? Blood flow restriction?

No, it's more of a comfort thing. There are four contacts attached to your legs (4 of literally 20 more) for the overnight portion of the study, two on each leg. If you wear long pants to bed (I wore sweatpants my first time), the contacts drag on your pant legs every time you move. It was an added pain in the rear end when it was already hard enough to sleep as it was. Wore shorts the next time and it was all good.

Guys might want to consider shaving/trimming their legs before they go, because the contacts come off in the morning, and having those things yanked is not the most fun way to start your day.

Rickety Cricket
Jan 6, 2011

I must be at the nexus of the universe!
I wasn't familiar with Sleep Apnea so I just had to wiki it. What does shallow breathing while you sleep at night have to do with falling asleep in the day?

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
It's not just shallow breathing. It's obstructive snoring and respiratory disruption. It wakes you up, even if you're too tired to notice it. You can sleep 8 hours and wake up feeling like you napped for 20 minutes.

Folks need to lose some loving weight, your fat is killing your lungs.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

The Ferret King posted:


Folks need to lose some loving weight, your fat is killing your lungs.
I DON'T NEED KNOW-IT-ALL DOCTORS TELLING ME HOW TO LIVE :colbert:

/America

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

The Ferret King posted:

Folks need to lose some loving weight, your fat is killing your lungs.

I'm 5'4" and 135 pounds and had a mild case diagnosed in January. Had my tonsils out and it took care of it.

Rickety Cricket posted:

I wasn't familiar with Sleep Apnea so I just had to wiki it. What does shallow breathing while you sleep at night have to do with falling asleep in the day?

I averaged 9 hours of sleep a night (thank you self-employment and college) and, if relatively idle (i.e. not driving or flying, as I never felt tired at the wheel/yoke), I would either a) get tired enough for a nap at 4pm, b) get tired enough for a nap around 1-2pm, or c) wake up in the morning exhausted. The first sleep study I did found I completely stopped breathing momentarily an average of 22 times per hour. Scarily enough, that's considered "mild".

This messes with your sleep without you knowing it...until you're tired.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Nov 20, 2013

KodiakRS
Jul 11, 2012

:stonk:

e.pie posted:

I DON'T NEED KNOW-IT-ALL DOCTORS TELLING ME HOW TO LIVE :colbert:

/America

I DON'T HAVE THE WILLPOWER TO STOP EATING lovely FOOD AND BE PHYSICALLY ACTIVE :colbert:

/Me

One of the CA's that I fly with is a bit on the chunky side and just found out he's diabetic. Now he has to deal with a possibly career ending medical condition 20 years before retirement. I think it may be time to pay a visit to YLLS and get my health in check.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

CBJSprague24 posted:

I'm 5'4" and 135 pounds and had a mild case diagnosed in January. Had my tonsils out and it took care of it.


I averaged 9 hours of sleep a night (thank you self-employment and college) and, if relatively idle (i.e. not driving or flying, as I never felt tired at the wheel/yoke), I would either a) get tired enough for a nap at 4pm, b) get tired enough for a nap around 1-2pm, or c) wake up in the morning exhausted. The first sleep study I did found I completely stopped breathing momentarily an average of 22 times per hour. Scarily enough, that's considered "mild".

This messes with your sleep without you knowing it...until you're tired.

I'm always amazed by how tiring doing nothing is.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

e- Another thing about Sleep Apnea is that you may not know you have it until it's too late. A 36-year old friend in Florida who was in fairly good shape went to bed one night in their guest bedroom to allow his wife to get a better night's sleep (they had 8-month old twins). She woke up the next morning after sleeping in surprised to see his suit and tie for work still hanging up. When she went to ask him why the hell he hadn't gone to work...

They took him off life support four days later.

e.pie posted:

I'm always amazed by how tiring doing nothing is.

Even when I did/do (it's gotten better, but not much) stuff that was active, but not involving being at the controls of a vehicle, I'd get tired.

I've been involved in a family-run real estate business since I was a senior in high school. The fatigue had gotten so bad that I remember one trip to Lowe's in the last year where I sat on the floor in front of the paint desk while we waited for a paint order to be filled.

CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 11:43 on Nov 20, 2013

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Ive actually been suspecting it lately. I not obese but I have gained some weight and have been snoring a lot. Most of the time I am fine but some days I wake up tired and with high pressure. My doctor dismissed it as having sinus problems. Sleep studies are hella expensive though, I ant afford it right now

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CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

I should point out that snoring may or may not be an indicator of the presence of Sleep Apnea. My parents and a friend/former roommate (a med school student, no less) both said they never heard me snore.

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