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CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

Macdeo Lurjtux posted:

Is there more to the story? Maybe I'm a troglodyte but trying to pick up someone up at a comic convention hardly seems like awful human being territory.

Basically he pretended to care about an artists career in order to try and sleep with her, and was just acting creepily in general.

CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 01:46 on Nov 6, 2013

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onefish
Jan 15, 2004

CharlestheHammer posted:

Basically he pretended to care about an artists career in order to try and sleep with her, and was just acting creepily in general.

He's also married, and was married at the time of the alleged incident(s).

I totally believe Wood could be a fake feminist--I just also believe the comics industry is full of non-feminists and genuine misogynists, so, you know, maybe Wood gets only one or two tweets, next rant. Though being a sleazy person and (allegedly/potentially) using power dynamics to coerce sex is obviously a total jerk way to be.

Lurdiak
Feb 26, 2006

I believe in a universe that doesn't care, and people that do.


He was also a huge rear end in a top hat to her after she declined his advances. We don't really have anything to go on but her word but I really don't see why you'd make up a story like that.

I don't really care if Graham is the biggest baby in the world and calls out everyone and their mother on twitter, I don't see in what universe he's worse than a philandering PUA who then goes on to get praised for being a feminist for writing a comic with girls in it.

Was Taters
Jul 30, 2004

Here comes a regular
He doesn't just get praised for writing comics with women in them - he works with women a lot. I thought it was interesting that while the woman in question basically made it sound like it must be Wood (the guy you talked about, to Graham), she never specifically named him, no one else is naming him either. But, also interesting, is I don't see his former collaborators defending him. It's a weird situation.

StumblyWumbly
Sep 12, 2007

Batmanticore!

Was Taters posted:

He doesn't just get praised for writing comics with women in them - he works with women a lot. I thought it was interesting that while the woman in question basically made it sound like it must be Wood (the guy you talked about, to Graham), she never specifically named him, no one else is naming him either. But, also interesting, is I don't see his former collaborators defending him. It's a weird situation.

And there's only one accusation against him, a lot of the time this stuff comes out in floods. I get the feeling he's a sleazy/creepy guy but tends to stay in that grey area.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

sky shark posted:

Anyone reading Brother Lono?

Hell yes I am. Keeps getting better and better as it goes on. The one thing I can't shake is that I'm actually rooting for Lono now. I'm so used to him in 100 Bullets where he's the most unlikable character but now this is almost like a redemption story for him.

I think issue six comes out on the 20th. Such a long rear end wait.

God Of Paradise
Jan 23, 2012
You know, I'd be less worried about my 16 year old daughter dating a successful 40 year old cartoonist than dating a 16 year old loser.

I mean, Jesus, kid, at least date a motherfucker with abortion money and house to have sex at where your mother and I don't have to hear it. Also, if he treats her poorly, boom, that asshole's gonna catch a statch charge.

Please, John K. Date my daughter... Save her from dating smelly dropouts who wanna-be Soundcloud rappers.
So they ended Hellblazer. John Constantine Dies.

But now John Constantine is back. And he's the only man who can defeat Skeletor.

:suicide:

onefish
Jan 15, 2004

Holy smokes. Just finished Scalped. Five star comic.

*Occasionally* the art was really dark and muddy and I couldn't easily figure out who a character was or how an action scene was happening exactly--but generally, it was pretty cool. And that was the only minor quibble. I could always follow the story anyway. Which was intense and emotionally involving and honest. And the characters and arcs were just amazing. So good.

edit: Discussion of the treatment of poverty in Scalped. Pretty on-point, I think: http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2012/04/on-scalped-casino-boogie-hoka-hey-by.html

onefish fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Nov 8, 2013

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

onefish posted:

Holy smokes. Just finished Scalped. Five star comic.

*Occasionally* the art was really dark and muddy and I couldn't easily figure out who a character was or how an action scene was happening exactly--and generally, it was pretty cool. And that was the only minor quibble. I could always follow the story anyway. Which was intense and emotionally involving and honest. And the characters and arcs were just amazing. So good.

Scalped was so emotionally draining. I mean that in the best possible way.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

onefish posted:

Holy smokes. Just finished Scalped. Five star comic.

*Occasionally* the art was really dark and muddy and I couldn't easily figure out who a character was or how an action scene was happening exactly--but generally, it was pretty cool. And that was the only minor quibble. I could always follow the story anyway. Which was intense and emotionally involving and honest. And the characters and arcs were just amazing. So good.

edit: Discussion of the treatment of poverty in Scalped. Pretty on-point, I think: http://toobusythinkingboutcomics.blogspot.com/2012/04/on-scalped-casino-boogie-hoka-hey-by.html

It took me a long time to figure out what went down in the chicken poo poo scene. But god yes Scalped is one of my favorite reads.

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
DMZ has it's awesome high points and poo poo low points. But it's drat addictive.

Benny the Snake
Apr 11, 2012

GUM CHEWING INTENSIFIES

Rocksicles posted:

DMZ has it's awesome high points and poo poo low points. But it's drat addictive.
I never got the name of the Free States commander. What was the dude's name?

Rocksicles
Oct 19, 2012

by Nyc_Tattoo
pretty sure he doesn't have one

Re-read Free States Rising a few weeks ago and i don't recall seeing it.

On a related note, anyone know where to get comic cover T-shirts, wouldn't mind a few DMZ ones.

Christmas Jones
Apr 12, 2007

nuklear fizzicist
I'm worried about the state of Vertigo. I know that that's really, really old news by this point, but there's a lot of series I haven't gotten around to reading yet, Scalped, iZombie, Transmetropolitan, Unwritten (maybe, the first trade didn't grab me)... and I'm worried that if I don't pick them up like RIGHT Now then I'll never get the chance, at least in trade form. I just don't have the time or money to binge read/buy. And as Shade proves, if DC considers something old and unprofitable, putting and keeping it in print for artistic reasons isn't really something they care about.

Seriously Shade started awesome, and I look forward to getting the other two trades and finishing it however I can.

edit: That was a problem with Lucifer too, I got well into the series when the trades went out of print and I had to scrounge Amazon's secondary market to finish it.

Soonmot
Dec 19, 2002

Entrapta fucking loves robots




Grimey Drawer

Christmas Jones posted:

I'm worried about the state of Vertigo. I know that that's really, really old news by this point, but there's a lot of series I haven't gotten around to reading yet, Scalped, iZombie, Transmetropolitan, Unwritten (maybe, the first trade didn't grab me)... and I'm worried that if I don't pick them up like RIGHT Now then I'll never get the chance, at least in trade form. I just don't have the time or money to binge read/buy. And as Shade proves, if DC considers something old and unprofitable, putting and keeping it in print for artistic reasons isn't really something they care about.

Seriously Shade started awesome, and I look forward to getting the other two trades and finishing it however I can.

The good thing about Vertigo's trade policy and "grown up" subject matter is that you'll have an easy time finding them at a library should they ever go out of print. At least for the more popular series.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Christmas Jones posted:

Seriously Shade started awesome, and I look forward to getting the other two trades and finishing it however I can.

I finished it with ebay and mycomicshop.com

sporklift
Aug 3, 2008

Feelin' it so hard.

Christmas Jones posted:

I'm worried about the state of Vertigo. I know that that's really, really old news by this point, but there's a lot of series I haven't gotten around to reading yet, Scalped, iZombie, Transmetropolitan, Unwritten (maybe, the first trade didn't grab me)... and I'm worried that if I don't pick them up like RIGHT Now then I'll never get the chance, at least in trade form. I just don't have the time or money to binge read/buy. And as Shade proves, if DC considers something old and unprofitable, putting and keeping it in print for artistic reasons isn't really something they care about.

Seriously Shade started awesome, and I look forward to getting the other two trades and finishing it however I can.

edit: That was a problem with Lucifer too, I got well into the series when the trades went out of print and I had to scrounge Amazon's secondary market to finish it.

Lucifer and Hellblazerare being reprinted. I think things like Scalped, Transmetro, Preacher and such will stay in print...

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Most of the earlier Vertigo titles (ie Sandman, Transmet, Preacher etc) I only got into thanks to trades. I keep thinking that Vertigo titles get all its money due to trades, more than single issues. Vertigo titles just seem built for the trade market.

Waterhaul
Nov 5, 2005


it was a nice post,
you shouldn't have signed it.



Not surprising really but the second issue of Sandman Overture has been delayed to February. DC are going to release a "special edition" of the first issue to tide things over.

FoneBone
Oct 24, 2004
stupid, stupid rat creatures

Waterhaul posted:

Not surprising really but the second issue of Sandman Overture has been delayed to February. DC are going to release a "special edition" of the first issue to tide things over.

The special edition was planned well before the delay. I believe they've announced that every issue will be followed by a special edition the next month.

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib
Gaiman has said that he is to blame for it. It's weird though as I would have thought that the first few issues would have been in the can. They announced Overture quite a while's back and you would think that would be enough lead time to have at least issue 2 done. For there to be a delay after one issue is annoying.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

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Madkal posted:

Gaiman has said that he is to blame for it. It's weird though as I would have thought that the first few issues would have been in the can. They announced Overture quite a while's back and you would think that would be enough lead time to have at least issue 2 done. For there to be a delay after one issue is annoying.

Unless it's a delay so 2-6 can all come out in good time. I get the suspicion they would have preferred to release issue 1 in January, but had their hand forced by the 25th anniversary. JH Williams is not the fastest brush in the West; it took nearly six years to publish 32 issues of Promethea.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Jedit posted:

Unless it's a delay so 2-6 can all come out in good time. I get the suspicion they would have preferred to release issue 1 in January, but had their hand forced by the 25th anniversary. JH Williams is not the fastest brush in the West; it took nearly six years to publish 32 issues of Promethea.

If he keeps drawing art like he did in Sandman: Overture then it might drat well be worth the wait.

Speaking of which, finally picked up issue 1 and I feel like talking about it.

Story wise, I'm a little disappointed to be honest. Despite the fantastic setting of the the first few pages the whole thing of Morpheus sensing a coming danger just felt a little cliched. Like any other wizard in a Tolkein rip off setting sensing a disturbance in the force. Even the ending beat of Morpheus being summoned to someplace with all of his incarnations felt...not cliched but forced. The plot feels very shoehorned in and quick treaded.

Granted it is a mini-series and you have a very limited amount of pages so that could be the reason. After all you have to get on with it and fast.

About the art. I'm sorry to all you Neil Gaiman fans out there but Sandman: Overture is no longer his comic. Gaiman's writing is taking a back seat to the real star of the comic, Williams' art. I haven't been this amazed with art in a comic book since Joe the Barbarian.

Most of the time panels are just pictures to me. They just set the scene, let me know who's talking, and what's going on. Nothing more. Williams has taken this to the next goddamn level.

It starts off on an amazing note with the planet and dream fading into being awake and it does not let up. When I noticed the two page splash framed by the Corinthian's teeth where each tooth was a panel I had to start reading from the start and really take in the art like I have never before done on a comic.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

Something about the Sandman Overture plot so far seems like it's influenced by Gaiman watching a lot of Moffat-era Doctor Who. Starts out with the blatant foreshadowing of a big coming danger, his apparent death, interlude with wacky creatures in Victorian London, summoning to a place with multiple incarnations, it's all stuff that's been seen multiple times in the Moffat/Matt Smith era of the show. Even Death kind of reminded me of the human TARDIS from Gaiman's first episode a few years ago.

Hate-O-Tron
Apr 1, 2007

Chairman Capone posted:

Something about the Sandman Overture plot so far seems like it's influenced by Gaiman watching a lot of Moffat-era Doctor Who. Starts out with the blatant foreshadowing of a big coming danger, his apparent death, interlude with wacky creatures in Victorian London, summoning to a place with multiple incarnations, it's all stuff that's been seen multiple times in the Moffat/Matt Smith era of the show. Even Death kind of reminded me of the human TARDIS from Gaiman's first episode a few years ago.

Well, considering Gaiman wrote that episode...

GrandpaPants
Feb 13, 2006


Free to roam the heavens in man's noble quest to investigate the weirdness of the universe!

Volume posted:

About the art. I'm sorry to all you Neil Gaiman fans out there but Sandman: Overture is no longer his comic. Gaiman's writing is taking a back seat to the real star of the comic, Williams' art. I haven't been this amazed with art in a comic book since Joe the Barbarian.

I went to one of those Evening With Neil Gaiman things and he did explicitly say that he had to up his writing game to match the quality of Williams' art, so even he's well aware that the art is surpassing his writing.

Molybdenum
Jun 25, 2007
Melting Point ~2622C
The last panel of trillium issue 4:

it says THE END. I knew it was going to be a short series, but 4 issues?!

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

Was Taters posted:

He doesn't just get praised for writing comics with women in them - he works with women a lot. I thought it was interesting that while the woman in question basically made it sound like it must be Wood (the guy you talked about, to Graham), she never specifically named him, no one else is naming him either. But, also interesting, is I don't see his former collaborators defending him. It's a weird situation.

I guess this is the place to put this:

http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/124930-tess-fowler-brian-wood-is-a-dick.html

Fowler came out and said that yup, she was talking about Wood.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

Molybdenum posted:

The last panel of trillium issue 4:

it says THE END. I knew it was going to be a short series, but 4 issues?!

It's 8 issues.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong
Paul Dini and Eduardo Risso are going to make some kind of ancillary Batman-related title for Vertigo.

Please be Harvey Bullock please be Harvey Bullock please be Harvey Bullock...

WHOOPS
Nov 6, 2009
We might be getting a Preacher TV series courtesy of Seth Rogen. Wait, what?

quote:

Will AMC dare to adapt that which HBO once shied away from?

A report began circulating on Saturday, starting at BadAssDigest.com, that AMC is developing a pilot adaptation of Preacher, the DC/Vertigo comic book series by Garth Ennis and Steve Dillon.

Adding grist to the mill were a pair of Saturday afternoon tweets from Seth Rogen — the second of which references several Preacher characters — suggesting that he is shepherding the project:


@Sethrogen
Looks like about seven of years of hard work are about to pay off. I may get to bring one of my favourite stories ever to life.
5:24 PM - 16 Nov 2013

@Sethrogen
Arseface. John Wayne, The Saint of Killers.
6:58 PM - 16 Nov 2013

Lightning Lord
Feb 21, 2013

$200 a day, plus expenses

DangerKat posted:

We might be getting a Preacher TV series courtesy of Seth Rogen. Wait, what?

OH god can you imagine what Arseface will be like in live action? Ugh.

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



This has been circulating since forever.

Silhouette
Nov 16, 2002

SONIC BOOM!!!

I wonder if Jensen Ackles has time in-between seasons of Supernatural to play Jesse? He'd be perfect.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Silhouette posted:

I wonder if Jensen Ackles has time in-between seasons of Supernatural to play Jesse? He'd be perfect.

Clearly it's going to be Seth Rogan as Jesse trying to breakaway from his "lovable stoner" career.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




DangerKat posted:

We might be getting a Preacher TV series courtesy of Seth Rogen. Wait, what?

We probably won't. What we will get instead is a show on ABC about a priest with magical powers that is in no way Jesse Custer.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Alhazred posted:

We probably won't. What we will get instead is a show on ABC about a priest with magical powers that is in no way Jesse Custer.

AMC. The station that brought you The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Volume posted:

AMC. The station that brought you The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad.

I think that is a Fables/Once Upon a Time joke.

Brocktoon
Jul 18, 2006

Before we engage we should hang back and study their tactics.
This fall on ABC: The Preaching Man! Southern preacher Jesse Cutler is having a crisis of faith, until he has a first-hand experience with God. Now he's on a life-affirming journey across the country spreading the good word. In the pilot episode, Jesse dissuades a teenager from attempting suicide.

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Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

DangerKat posted:

We might be getting a Preacher TV series courtesy of Seth Rogen. Wait, what?

Let's hope it can meet the high standards Rogen set for himself with The Green Hornet.

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