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Shugojin posted:As something more important, why are we not talking more about that little bat Durkon Vampires with beards always turn out to be awesome.
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Shugojin posted:Well, it leaves Tarquin's plot completely unresolved (in his eyes). It's an anticlimax, just to a side plot that isn't remotely important in the scheme of things because Tarquin is just a mortal man with mortal plans. He's not even a blip compared to the Snarl/Rifts business. I'm hoping Tarquin lives, they all escape, and his plot gets incorporated into (and resolved by) the main plot. Giant climatic duel at the last gate, anyone? Also, calling it now: Julio is Tarquin's brother.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:31
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He's gonna get curbstomped by Sabine.JosephWongKS posted:Perhaps Bloodfeast can only talk to other dinosaurs or dinosaurs' evolutionary descendants like birds. On the other hand, on a closer look at that panel, Blackwing's beak is open, which confirms that Blackwing is the one speaking in that panel. Plus Blackwing's whole character is that he' a 50s era Civil Rights activist. He thinks that lizard is a "Strong Sauropod role model."
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Nov 21, 2013 02:32
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It's a nice sign of character growth that V doesn't needle Belkar for his concern for the helpless dinolizard, or sarcastically express disbelief, or even question the pragmatism of it. He just gets it done.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:33
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Eifert Posting posted:He's gonna get curbstomped by Sabine. If he lives through the next few strips? Almost certainly. I'm just hoping that revenge is delayed until the final confrontation and all sorts of awesome stuff can happen at once.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:37
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Shugojin posted:As something more important, why are we not talking more about that little bat Durkon WHOSA LITTLE CUTESY VAMPIRE
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Nov 21, 2013 02:44
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Is there a mechanical reason that the staff didn't shift into his body with the rest of his gear? Not that there needs to be, just curious.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:45
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I'm guessing he just wants it accessible in case he has to recast Protection from Daylight as an emergency.Uranium Phoenix posted:If he lives through the next few strips? Almost certainly. I'm just hoping that revenge is delayed until the final confrontation and all sorts of awesome stuff can happen at once. No, the fitting end for Tarquin is definitely getting snuffed far away from the battlefield because he completely ignored that someone loved his son.
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Nov 21, 2013 02:49
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Carrasco posted:I'm guessing he just wants it accessible in case he has to recast Protection from Daylight as an emergency. Two someone's. Thog loves Nale, too. I think.
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Nov 21, 2013 03:10
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I feel certain Julio will survive, if only because I don't think any of the Order can fly an airship.
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Cthulhuchan posted:I feel certain Julio will survive, if only because I don't think any of the Order can fly an airship. I imagine the crew handles the actual operation.
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Nov 21, 2013 04:07
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Angela Christine posted:Yeah, but then what do they do with him? The OOTS can't even manage to take care of horses. Nothing, for just long enough readers forget about it, then one day during a desperate climactic moment, BAM! Bloodfeast the Extreminator out of nowhere.
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Nov 21, 2013 05:28
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It'll be a variation on the fastball special, where they whip a lizard at someone (who doesn't bother to block because hey, it's just a gecko) only to cast a dispel mid-flight and suddenly they're getting bull-rushed by a T-Rex.
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Dolash posted:It'll be a variation on the fastball special, where they whip a lizard at someone (who doesn't bother to block because hey, it's just a gecko) only to cast a dispel mid-flight and suddenly they're getting bull-rushed by a T-Rex. Don't forget, Ray has practice throwing small animals at enemies. (after the Julio thing, clearly EVERYTHING is foreshadowing)
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Nov 21, 2013 06:16
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Why are all of Julio's puns about his carpet.
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I'm guessing the OOTS is about to for-real escape and close this arc via the airship, whether or not Julio survives. My bolder prediction is the arc stinger is going to be something like - Tarquin: drat! They haven't escaped me yet! I'm no dangling plothook--I'll track them down to the ends of the earth! Now, Laurin, what was it you wanted? Laurin: Yeah Tarquin, sorry, about our arrangement? It's been changed. *Disentegrates/One-Hit-Kills Tarquin* Tarquin dies due to political backstabbing completely unrelated to the 'arc' he was building with Elan, and plays no more role in the story. It's his perfect ironic punishment. Harime Nui fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Nov 21, 2013 |
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Piedmon Sama posted:I'm guessing the OOTS is about to for-real escape and close this arc via the airship, whether or not Julio survives. My bolder prediction is the arc stinger is going to be something like - (Don't spoiler predictions, dummy) I don't know why everyone thinks that Tarquin and company actually secretly hate each other, but anyone that thinks that Laurin is going to backstab him is super extra wrong.
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Nov 21, 2013 07:18
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Uranium Phoenix posted:(Don't spoiler predictions, dummy) Seriously. The whole point of Tarquin and Company is that even Evil People can have friends who they like and trust and can rely on. To have Laurin backstab him just because it would be the cliche "evil thing to do" would totally undercut Rich's point. Not happening. Strudel Man posted:Why are all of Julio's puns about his carpet. Because that's what you do in pun-fighting. You pick one topic and run with it until the end of the duel. Elan used food in his first duel with Nale, then blades vs Tarquin while Tarquin used son related puns. And now Julio's doing the carpet. That's just how pun fighting works.
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Granted, he might yet say/do something in his anger in the aftermath that causes Laurin to snap on him, but... Yeah, at the moment we've got nothing indicating they've had any reason for animosity, considering their whole dynamic revolves around mutual self-interest. Now, for an actual crackpot theory...  What if Tarquin made a massive misassumption all this time, and Julio is Elan's father? This theory is based mainly/solely on the "crashing weddings" line Julio makes in the latest strip.
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Since Elan looks exactly like a younger Tarquin and nothing like a younger Julio, that's...unlikely.
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Well that marriage was Legitimate enough that it was actually possible to go through a divorce so I THINK that might be something that started afterwards.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Hey, with 67 more comics to fill before the big One Thousand there's plenty of time for dangling plot threads. Rich has consistently used his Big Anniversary Number strips for either a joke, or a bit of Ominous Foreshadowing (tm). I wouldn't expect Number One-Kay to be any different. It won't be the climax - it'll be the scene-setting denouement. I'm gonna guess, out of those 67 strips, we'll see around 25 reserved for the end of the current arc, about 10 for side plots and checking in with other Important Players, 10 for a Team Evil drop-in, 21 for wrap-up and setting up the next arc, and then #1000 will be the Ominous Foreshadowing.
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People say that the point of this arc is that Tarquin's group won't betray each other yet none-the-less Tarquin was manipulating and in a way acting against Malack's interests throughout the whole strip. His ultimate plan was supposedly to pass the kingdom on to Malack after his death but in reality it was to lose his kingdom in a battle against his son with Malack supposedly getting nothing. He puts his family interests above Malack's with his plot to get Nale on the team instead of killing him, while technically not lying to him about it if I recall correctly. I think much more the point of the arc is that these lawful evil villains are actually all trying to undermine each other while maintaining their agreement to the letter . Perhaps Laurin's request is calling off the plan and just ruling with what they have now, or to release her from the agreement and let her live out the rest of her life with her daughter or some other thing that would jeopardize Tarquin's plans without actually betraying him.
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Regalingualius posted:Granted, he might yet say/do something in his anger in the aftermath that causes Laurin to snap on him, but... Yeah, at the moment we've got nothing indicating they've had any reason for animosity, considering their whole dynamic revolves around mutual self-interest. No, Tarquin was there for Elan and Nale's birth. Plus the fact that Elan and Tarquin (and by extension Nale) all look very similar was a straight up plot point. Not unless Julio really is Tarkie's brother which could work, I guess. Though I'm thinking that's a pretty low probability outcome right there.
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Like I said, it's a total crackpot that I do not seriously believe in. ...I am eating so much crow if that really does end up being the case.
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Cliff Racer posted:People say that the point of this arc is that Tarquin's group won't betray each other yet none-the-less Tarquin was manipulating and in a way acting against Malack's interests throughout the whole strip. His ultimate plan was supposedly to pass the kingdom on to Malack after his death but in reality it was to lose his kingdom in a battle against his son with Malack supposedly getting nothing. He puts his family interests above Malack's with his plot to get Nale on the team instead of killing him, while technically not lying to him about it if I recall correctly. I think much more the point of the arc is that these lawful evil villains are actually all trying to undermine each other while maintaining their agreement to the letter . Perhaps Laurin's request is calling off the plan and just ruling with what they have now, or to release her from the agreement and let her live out the rest of her life with her daughter or some other thing that would jeopardize Tarquin's plans without actually betraying him. Nah, we should keep Rich's comments in context here, he writes fantasy as to make a point about the real world. Rich strongly believes in the concept of complex villains who can love and have meaningful relationships. Partly a running joke for Nale and Sabine but very much in full effect for Tarquin and his group. Maybe Rich intends there to be a reasonable limit to how far this goes but to their perspective there aren't that many near epic lawful evil competent military generals they are willing to trust as much as they trust Tarquin, on the basis of their decades of prior adventuring together. Tarquin wasn't plotting against Malack, he was setting up a 'heads I win, tails you lose' situation of regardless of who won he would be remembered. Either through Malack as a sort of fantasy Kim il-sung posthumous "Eternal General of the Empire" or through tale and song at the hands of his Heroic son. Malack as far as either of them knew would outlive both Tarquin and his son, and his son's son and so on and would continue to rule the empire or its inevitable successor state from the safety within the shadows. Heck, to Tarquin's perspective he might even be helping Malack. From the logic that "If the Hero exists, so must the Empire"; for as long as Tarquin's descendents "live" to be Heroes in a very JoJo-esque way so to logically must exist Tarquin's empire under the guidance of Malack.
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So, how many brides has Julio saved from Tarquin?
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Uranium Phoenix posted:(Don't spoiler predictions, dummy) I don't know why you think they are all super best pals other than Rich wrote an article one time saying "villains can have friends too!" We've actually only seen maybe the equivalent of a couple minutes of them onscreen together? It seems to me like the one who was actually close to Tarquin is the now-deceased vampire.
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The rest of Tarquin's crew seemed shocked and upset that Malack was dead. Like, less "well poo poo, there goes an ally" and more "oh no, not my friend!" e I thought Miron was also there but it was just Laurin. She looks just about horrified, and she disintegrates Nale's corpse. That speaks to fondness more than just a business relationship. Pope Guilty fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Nov 21, 2013 |
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Strudel Man posted:Why are all of Julio's puns about his carpet. Maybe he has a higher level class ability that gives him a bonus if he sticks to a specific theme.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Rich has consistently used his Big Anniversary Number strips for either a joke, or a bit of Ominous Foreshadowing (tm). I wouldn't expect Number One-Kay to be any different. It won't be the climax - it'll be the scene-setting denouement. He has, but this will be the one and only thousand strip marker. I will be very surprised if it isn't extra-special in some way.
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Speedball posted:So, how many brides has Julio saved from Tarquin? Not enough, since he still got to play Bluebeard.
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Strudel Man posted:Why are all of Julio's puns about his carpet. He's on his carpet right now, he's using it to the fullest by punning about it as well! Plus, he gets to save his A-grade material for when he gets knocked off the carpet.
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Fangz posted:Haley can fly? Vaarsuvius cast a fly spell on her several strips ago. We didn't see the spell being cast because it cut away to the villains, but it happened between Roy's order to bring Haley and Elan back and its execution. See how he mentioned having one fly spell left in the first of these two links?
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I'm not entirely sure we can count on escaping this desert without getting some exposition on the 6th member of Tarkie's crew. We already know a bit about Jacinda, but the guy working with Miron hasn't been mentioned at all yet. Also, while I was looking around at older strips for who the 6th even was, I re-encountered Elan's pun duel with Tarquin - I wouldn't count him out just yet, he is apparently quite handy with that knife.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:I'm not entirely sure we can count on escaping this desert without getting some exposition on the 6th member of Tarkie's crew. We already know a bit about Jacinda, but the guy working with Miron hasn't been mentioned at all yet. Yes, but Julio is not left handed.
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MarquiseMindfang posted:Also, while I was looking around at older strips for who the 6th even was, I re-encountered Elan's pun duel with Tarquin - I wouldn't count him out just yet, he is apparently quite handy with that knife. They aren't trying to kill him, just get away from him. A knife isn't the best weapon to stop that. In real life he might be able to take out Roy from a distance by throwing the knife, but in D&D it probably doesn't do enough damage for that.
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Angela Christine posted:They aren't trying to kill him, just get away from him. A knife isn't the best weapon to stop that. In real life he might be able to take out Roy from a distance by throwing the knife, but in D&D it probably doesn't do enough damage for that. A dagger does an average of 3 points less than a greatsword. It's not big deal at higher levels.
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