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So...how close is World Net Daily to a white supremacist site, because... 
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Nov 21, 2013 03:26
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VitalSigns posted:So...how close is World Net Daily to a white supremacist site, because... It's a post-your-own-news site popular with Freep-types, so as close as the article's author wants it to be. See also: Examiner.com
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Nov 21, 2013 03:49
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CarterUSM posted:We are spending Thanksgiving at my Tea Partier aunt's house. I don't know how I'm going to be able to eat, since doing so will require me to stop clenching my jaw and gritting my teeth first. I am so goddamn thankful that almost my whole family are Liberal Democrats.
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Nov 21, 2013 03:56
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World Net Daily is loving hogwash and it always has been. I used to read it in high school and while I was a wildly different person 15 years ago it's still embarrassing. Of course if you tell someone that wnd is alarmist dreck they'll just tell you that you don't have an open mind and call you an obamazombie. My parents and I are on totally different ends of the political spectrum but thankfully after butting heads around election time last year we don't talk about it anymore so now when I go home for Thanksgiving it's pretty chill and we just sit around playing Settlers of Catan. Good luck to the rest of you goons dealing with your racist rear end families this holiday season.
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Nov 21, 2013 04:05
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Axetrain posted:I am so goddamn thankful that almost my whole family are Liberal Democrats. My immediate family is pretty liberal and the rest of my family lives in China (If they came to live over here I doubt they'd be Republicans). My facebook friends list is mostly liberal as well, with the few conservatives mostly being libertarian types or super-religious and not very political. The only time I have things to contribute to this thread is when one of the libertarians' posts somehow makes it into my feed or I somehow get on a republican candidate's e-mail list. This Thanksgiving I will be eating a roast duck with my family and I will be so very thankful.
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Nov 21, 2013 07:18
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Well, I live with my parents (haven't been able to get a job situation sorted out), and my mom is a standard conservative Mormon, but one who tries to avoid conflict (to be fair I'm a Mormon too, but I'm basically Bernie Sanders in terms of political views), and my dad is a Reddit-style angry atheist and anarchist (in the belligerent anarcho-capitalist sense). So you can guess how any political discussions go at my house. The other relatives don't live here, but have a variety of views. Also I live in Utah, which complicates the political discussions even more.
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Nov 21, 2013 08:58
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ShortStack posted:Good luck to the rest of you goons dealing with your racist rear end families this holiday season. Mine may or may not be super interesting. Depending on how the stars align, I could be in ~Rural Alabama~ with my very conservative extended family. My two uncles used to be pretty sane about almost everything, but in the months following Obama's election one of them started hoarding firearms and the other impersonates the first lady with an ape impression. The latter reads The Economist and actively seeks out reliable statistics on issues while simultaneously accepting everything that FOX vomits from his television as the Gospel. It's a magical little contradiction that I can't even begin to understand. Also they both just know that the Chinese students at the local university are all in some kind of gigantic underground cheating ring, as they can't possibly do so well otherwise! Edit: Words in places.
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Nov 21, 2013 09:00
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Lord Girlyman posted:Also they both just know that the Chinese students at the local university are all in some kind of gigantic underground cheating ring, as they can't possibly do so well otherwise! I wouldn't go so far as to say they're probably right, but the odds of that being true of undergraduates aren't that bad.
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Nov 21, 2013 10:30
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My students are a bunch of lil' libertarians and I grade their papers without prejudice then pull out my hair later. They're seriously advocating abolishing public schools and privatising roads while they sit in an exceptionally good public school they got to on an interstate system. Augh my brain. They're such intelligent, nice children but when you let a 16 year old read Rand and Nozick and Rothbard and Hayek under the guidance of one of our libertarian-tea party faculty, the distortional effect on their intellectual life is nothing short of stunning. I wish I was willing to be so blatant about imposing my political and intellectual beliefs on the students. Alas, ethics.
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Nov 21, 2013 12:55
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BrotherAdso posted:They're such intelligent, nice children but when you let a 16 year old read Rand and Nozick and Rothbard and Hayek under the guidance of one of our libertarian-tea party faculty, the distortional effect on their intellectual life is nothing short of stunning. I wish I was willing to be so blatant about imposing my political and intellectual beliefs on the students. Alas, ethics. There's nothing unethical about telling your students that Austrian Schoolers are loving idiots who have never been right about anything and exist only to make blatant wealth-hoarding acceptable. That's not a political statement, it's a fact.
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Nov 21, 2013 12:57
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For a 16 year old the fact that their teacher disagrees with them only reinforces that they must be right.
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Nov 21, 2013 13:53
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RagnarokAngel posted:For a 16 year old the fact that their teacher disagrees with them only reinforces that they must be right. Even though they only believe what they do because one of the others teachers taught it to them?
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Nov 21, 2013 13:59
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VideoTapir posted:I wouldn't go so far as to say they're probably right, but the odds of that being true of undergraduates aren't that bad.
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Nov 21, 2013 14:43
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ShortStack posted:My parents and I are on totally different ends of the political spectrum but thankfully after butting heads around election time last year we don't talk about it anymore so now when I go home for Thanksgiving it's pretty chill and we just sit around playing Settlers of Catan. Good luck to the rest of you goons dealing with your racist rear end families this holiday season. Considering a few weeks ago at a family dinner someone tried to defend blackface as not being racist (or even about race until "they" made it about race  ) I can only imagine what I'm in for this year.
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Nov 21, 2013 15:00
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VitalSigns posted:So...how close is World Net Daily to a white supremacist site, because... Well... Fox launches full-frontal assault on black mobs 11/20/2013 Surprise! Media finally wake up to Knockout Game 11/19/2013 Glossing over black thugs' 'game' 11/19/2013 Police deny series of trail attacks 'a pattern'11/08/2013 Black-on-white beatings leave more dead 9/24/2013 Obama, Powell mum on 'Trayvon Effect' 8/28/2013 Black mob pounces on woman: 'Shut up white [bleep!]' 8/28/2013 These are all between that article and today. Whatever you do, don't read the comments. Or even go to that site. Or be friends with anyone who posts that kind of poo poo.
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Nov 21, 2013 16:17
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Wanamingo posted:Even though they only believe what they do because one of the others teachers taught it to them? Crazy-rear end right libertarianism tells them that they're magical ubermenschen who can rule the world from their high-tech mountain fortress while all the other morons die of starvation because they aren't as awesome, all in a pseudo-intellectual way. It makes them feel special and smart, so the bad teachers are basically flattering them in roundabout way while you're just trying to keep them down, man!
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Nov 21, 2013 16:42
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Apparently a certain coal miner's daughter received the medal of freedom.   I had gotten on to my mom about sharing political chainmails on Facebook and she received it pretty well. She's a public figure, so I'm not surprised she posted this but of course anything with Obama in it is just bad. I'm almost half certain I live in an area of Freepers. Also, "OBAMA IS A P.O.S. but there's no partisan crap here". 
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Nov 21, 2013 17:05
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 I don't.. I mean.. How can someone believe that?
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Nov 21, 2013 17:48
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Wanamingo posted:Even though they only believe what they do because one of the others teachers taught it to them? Not all of them learn libertarian talking points from teachers though.
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Nov 21, 2013 18:00
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My Face When posted:Also, "OBAMA IS A P.O.S. but there's no partisan crap here". Too bad she had to get it from one of those....well, you know!!! niggers ^_^
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Nov 21, 2013 18:05
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Cousin's forever on the warpath against contraception.  Apparently, Comic Guy doesn't realize that NFP has a significant failure rate. 
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Nov 21, 2013 18:14
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Nyarai posted:Cousin's forever on the warpath against contraception. No one is getting free birth control. They're getting their health plans, that they earn through their jobs or pay for with their money that they earn, to cover birth control.
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Nov 21, 2013 18:21
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BrotherAdso posted:My students are a bunch of lil' libertarians and I grade their papers without prejudice then pull out my hair later. They're sixteen, man. Of course they're libertarians. That's like getting mad at a three-year-old for liking Barney more than The Wire. Like 85 percent of them will grow out of it.
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Nov 21, 2013 18:31
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Guilty Spork posted:A friend who's kind of moderate right-wing semi-libertarian but fairly chill overall posted about how he's kinda uncomfortable with the guaranteed income idea, I guess because those dirty poors don't deserve basic food and shelter or upwards mobility or anything. What follows is two of his friends who I don't know having a Facebook Argument, with Benny Ficial FYGM-ing it up. Oh my goodness, he called you fat near the end! That means that you have won this round, liberal.
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Nov 21, 2013 19:18
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Vriess posted:
"Mario Speedwagon" is the best pun-name that plugin has ever generated.
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Nov 21, 2013 19:55
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Dr Christmas posted:No one is getting free birth control. They're getting their health plans, that they earn through their jobs or pay for with their money that they earn, to cover birth control. That was actually about living without contraception, not getting it for free, but don't worry! He hates that too. 
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Nov 21, 2013 20:42
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Vriess posted:
Why would anyone bother poisoning Brittany Murphy?
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Nov 21, 2013 20:47
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Vriess posted:
For InfoWars, I think it's important to remind them that after the Boston Marathon bombing, during the second news conference, the very first question was asked by an InfoWars reporter "Was this another false flag staged attack to take our civil liberties and promote Homeland Security by sticking their hands down our pants on the streets?" Before anyone even knew what was going on, Alex Jones had tweeted "Our hearts go out to those that are hurt or killed," Jones wrote. "But this thing stinks to high heaven #falseflag." Imagine that you went out your front door in the morning and found a couple of chairs set up in your yard. That's unusual. What are some of the most likely reasons. I'd say "drunk people" is probably high on the list, "weird prank" might be second, "Neighbor trying to get me in trouble with the Homeowners association" might be on the list, "Government conspiracy," "Aliens," and "Poltergeists" aren't very high on the list. If you knew someone who immediately decided that "Aliens" was the most likely cause, that should tell you that they have a very different idea about how the world works than you do. It also affects the way they try to analyze the evidence. If you thought it was drunks or pranksters, your first step should be to investigate the area looking for footprints, beer cans, cigarette butts or joints, etc. If you thought it might be someone trying to get you in trouble with the Homeowner's association, you might want to give them a call and find out if there have been any complaints recently. But a person who thinks that Aliens is the most likely cause is probably going to grab their Orgone detector.
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Nov 21, 2013 21:18
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Vriess posted:
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Nov 21, 2013 22:32
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BrotherAdso posted:They're such intelligent, nice children but when you let a 16 year old read Rand and Nozick and Rothbard and Hayek under the guidance of one of our libertarian-tea party faculty, the distortional effect on their intellectual life is nothing short of stunning. I wish I was willing to be so blatant about imposing my political and intellectual beliefs on the students. Alas, ethics.
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Nov 21, 2013 22:40
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My green friend here is a black man   And for those of us who have to put up with our fundamentalist families  about the War on Christmas this holiday season, at least you can be   The headline says  "Christian holidays soon forbidden in all of Europe!""Not only is Santa Claus under discussion, but soon too will the Christian holidays Christmas and Easter become..." Fortunately, after my brief twinge of horror, my friend reassured me he posted it mockingly and he's not going all Eurofreep on me Blue: Do you really believe this? Orange: No, but I sure found it kind of funny Orange: If it does, then y'all come help us! 
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Nov 21, 2013 23:15
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VitalSigns posted:And for those of us who have to put up with our fundamentalist families I have to say that as an Israeli living in the US, it is shocking to me that anyone would consider that Christmas is under attack here. I am already seeing decorations everywhere.
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Nov 22, 2013 02:24
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Yes but the cashier told me happy holidays which means every holiday but Christmas obviously.
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Nov 22, 2013 02:26
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This Thanksgiving is going to be fun. My family has one of the most bizarre mixes of political views I've ever encountered. My grandfather is an extreme-right Tea Party conservative and Mormon fundamentalist, my grandmother is a liberal Democrat, my other grandfather is an FYGM libertarian and Reddit atheist, my mom is an indecisive moderate, my dad is a centrist establishment Democrat, my great-grandfather and my uncle are both communists, and my aunts all took after their dad and got big into the Tea Party. My little sister is a Democrat and liberal on almost every issue except abortion, where she is extremely hardline and doesn't believe it should be legal at all, ever, under any circumstances. My older brother is a traditionalist, pro-establishment big business conservative. And I'm a syndicalist. We very rarely talk politics, and try to avoid it, but if it does get brought up, things can get...silly.
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Nov 22, 2013 03:44
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I have to say that as an Israeli living in the US, it is shocking to me that anyone would consider that Christmas is under attack here. I am already seeing decorations everywhere. The religious right in this country desperately wants to be a persecuted minority.
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Nov 22, 2013 03:51
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1stGear posted:The religious right in this country desperately wants to make a theocracy enforced by public torture and death. ftfy
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Nov 22, 2013 07:00
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Mister Bates posted:This Thanksgiving is going to be fun. My family has one of the most bizarre mixes of political views I've ever encountered. My grandfather is an extreme-right Tea Party conservative and Mormon fundamentalist, my grandmother is a liberal Democrat, my other grandfather is an FYGM libertarian and Reddit atheist, my mom is an indecisive moderate, my dad is a centrist establishment Democrat, my great-grandfather and my uncle are both communists, and my aunts all took after their dad and got big into the Tea Party. My little sister is a Democrat and liberal on almost every issue except abortion, where she is extremely hardline and doesn't believe it should be legal at all, ever, under any circumstances. My older brother is a traditionalist, pro-establishment big business conservative. And I'm a syndicalist. Gotta say, at least your little sister has a stance that is logically consistent with believing fetuses to be human lives, instead of one that only makes sense if you assume the person's underlying intention is to punish women for having sex. That isn't to say I agree with it, but I can at least hear someone say it without immediately wanting to call them a lying piece of poo poo when they claim it's about the fetus and not about oppressing women. Magres fucked around with this message at 07:36 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 07:27
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Absurd Alhazred posted:That has to do with Zwarte Piet, right? Honestly, the article was too much purestrain crazy for me to get through, plus my Dutch is pretty lovely so it takes a lot of effort to read and there's not much reward when everything comes out insane. The article is mainly a  freakout about Muslims. It briefly mentions Sinterklaas as under attack by Muslims, but it goes on with a lot of other stupid-rear end claims like seeing-eye dogs are forbidden on buses in Great Britain now and Christmas is banned in Berlin because Muslims etc, and calls the EU Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union at the same time. If it were in English I would assume it was a piece by Glenn Beck.The article is here if you really want to read it, but don't. Really, don't. http://ejbron.wordpress.com/2013/10/24/christelijke-feestdagen-binnenkort-verboden-in-heel-europa/
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Nov 22, 2013 07:51
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Absurd Alhazred posted:I have to say that as an Israeli living in the US, it is shocking to me that anyone would consider that Christmas is under attack here. I am already seeing decorations everywhere. Yes but you see that is just a gross celebration of consumerism and not a celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ. Since it is a perversion of the true reason for the season it is an attack on Christmas and Christianity. I feel sympathetic to those of you with lovely families, our family has done its best to not discuss politics at holiday gatherings. In fact we rarely discussed politics at all. I remember growing up, my grandfather on my mom's side was a hardcore liberal democrat who, after serving in the army for a few years, became a construction worker and thus unions were a sacred thing to him. My dad, who sadly died before I really got old enough to understand politics, seemed at least to be fairly conservative because I remember as a kid getting annoyed that he would sometimes say a thing, and my grandfather would rant endlessly about it. Since he and my dad have both passed away, the remaining members of my family have never really been huge into discussing politics and so the subject just never comes up, though I have pretty good ideas of what their politics actually are.
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Nov 22, 2013 11:36
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CowHammer posted:
I would start with "Why does it matter so much how much the CEO makes?" It has very little to do with how effective the charity is. Less Wrong, Efficient Charity posted:A hypothetical charity running programs like [Mozambican health program] VillageReach's which embezzled 95% of its budget and had correspondingly greatly reduced cost-effectiveness would still be doing far more good per dollar than the Make-A-Wish Foundation or the least effective developing world charities do. This example makes it clear how profoundly useless the overhead ratio is for assessing the relative quality of a charity. platzapS fucked around with this message at 12:30 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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