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Kytrarewn posted:Does anyone have any suggested recordings of the Beethoven? I truly loved Richard Goode's performances of the Beethoven Sonatas, if that gives any of you a hint as to my tastes in piano interpretations. Have you heard András Schiff's recordings of the entire Beethoven Sonata cycle yet? Absolutely phenomenal - excels brilliantly in the big titles and shines new light on the lesser heard / known ones. He also gave lectures on every Sonata while he was performing and recording them. They are here: http://music.guardian.co.uk/classical/page/0,,1943867,00.html
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(didn't see any mention of this guy on this page so ) The artist is Moondog. The genre is Moondog. I stumbled upon this peculiar fella looking for something else of course. His story is nothing short of intriguing. Wikipedia quote:Moondog, born Louis Thomas Hardin (May 26, 1916 – September 8, 1999), was a blind American composer, musician, poet and inventor of several musical instruments. Moving to New York as a young man, Moondog made a deliberate decision to make his home on the streets there, where he spent approximately twenty of the thirty years he lived in the city. Most days he could be found in his chosen part of town wearing clothes he had created based on his own interpretation of the Norse god Odin. quote:From the late 1940s until 1974, Moondog lived as a street musician and poet in New York City, busking mostly on the corner of 53rd Street and 6th Avenue in Manhattan. He was not homeless however, or at least not often—he maintained an apartment in upper Manhattan for most of his life.[3] In addition to his music and poetry, he was also known for the distinctive fanciful "Viking" garb that he wore, which included a horned helmet. He partially supported himself by selling copies of his poetry and his musical philosophy. Because of his street post's proximity to the famed 52nd Street nightclub strip, he was well-known to many jazz musicians and fans. "Native music, along with contemporary jazz and classical, mixed with the ambient sounds from his environment (city traffic, ocean waves, babies crying, etc.)" are the foundations of his music which is characterized by what he called "snaketime" and described as "a slithery rhythm, in times that are not ordinary...I'm not gonna die in 4/4 time". Sounds like Sun Ra's brother from another mother to me. Apparently this song was in Pineapple Express Moondog - Lament I,"Bird's Lament" And this one in The Big Lebowski Moondog - Stamping Ground My current favorites Moondog - Pastoral Moondog - Symphonique #3 (Ode to Venus) Moondog - Chaconne in G Major what i was actually looking for: takenobu - shady grove mogran fucked around with this message at 12:15 on Sep 2, 2013 |
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I know there's not many opera fans even in this thread, but if you have any interest at all you should check out this Lucia mad scene that was recently uploaded. It's absolutely spectacular. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqdpk7k4xIQ
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regulargonzalez posted:I know there's not many opera fans even in this thread, but if you have any interest at all you should check out this Lucia mad scene that was recently uploaded. It's absolutely spectacular. That WAS amazing. I'm always blown away by operatic singers - masters of so many arts besides their instrument. She must be a brilliant coloratura if she can sing notes that high (the highest note according to my sub-mediocre pitch skills sounded a lot higher than C6). Thanks for this. I am interested in exploring more opera but the obstacle for me has always been accessibility. I'm wondering what good options there are if watching it live isn't a possibility? This convinced me that YouTube is a good place to go looking, which is something I hadn't considered before.
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CowOnCrack posted:That WAS amazing. I'm always blown away by operatic singers - masters of so many arts besides their instrument. She must be a brilliant coloratura if she can sing notes that high (the highest note according to my sub-mediocre pitch skills sounded a lot higher than C6). Thanks for this. I am interested in exploring more opera but the obstacle for me has always been accessibility. I'm wondering what good options there are if watching it live isn't a possibility? This convinced me that YouTube is a good place to go looking, which is something I hadn't considered before. The highest note is an Eb6, at the end. Curiously, that aria (and I believe the entire mad scene) is here and almost universally performed a semitone lower than it was written, and the Eb6 in the score is actually an F5 ... so in this key the note 'technically' should be sung as an Eb5, but woe to the soprano who tries to pull that off. The audience would be appalled  (Which is one of the worst things about opera -- if you think XBone vs. PS4 flame wars are terrible, it's nothing compared to the venom you'll see on youtube comments about how singer X is infinitely inferior to singer Y).And yes, she's an amazing coloratura, arguably the best of her generation. Particularly from an interpretative and musicality standpoint, she's the best soprano since Maria Calla imo. Had the privilege of meeting her briefly in 2011. Youtube can be hit or miss -- the audio quality is often bad, which immediately undermines one of the core appeals of opera, which is of course the beauty of the fully developed human voice. And the presence of subtitles is intermittent at best. But there are an amazing number of full operas available. I got into opera 4 years ago and it really swept me away. What worked for me was a strategy of listening to famous arias, finding out they were famous for a reason, and slowly working my way up to full operas. One can also take a top-down approach by jumping into full operas; the problem is that there is such a huge range of styles that what appeals to me may not appeal to you. I could see someone immediately loving Donizetti and then growing to love other composers, but if they'd jumped into Wagner or Shostakovich, it might not click for them at all. For a full opera (technically operetta, but the difference is negligible in this instance) I can't recommend Orphee Aux Enfers highly enough. Features Natalie Dessay, the soprano we were talking about, in a fantastic production. One great tune after another. A2 can be a bit slow but picks up by the end, and A3 and A4 are incredible, and it's honestly really funny. Full production with subs available on YT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_efSJqyhLA e: for some individual works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmYRQWYlDbM Natalie Dessay again. The first 1:30 is an astonishing display of pure technique https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6NkMeR2Z0M Pavarotti showing why his reputation is 100% deserved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFX8pNlwtMY Anna Moffo, one of the most purely gorgeous voices of the 20th Century https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_kaOYC_Fww Anna Netrebko, the world's top soprano (in earnings and popularity). Can't help but fall a little in love with her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ1nAAVjimA Largo Al Factotum (perhaps the prototypical opera song, everyone knows this one). Not my favorite performance but very good and it has subtitles so you can see why he's actually singing "Figaro figaro figaro" over and over regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Sep 7, 2013 |
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I will definitely check out those links but it will take awhile as I am consumed in music stuff at the moment. I thought I'd share this one though. It's one of the first arias I heard and was totally enchanted by it. I also heard an almost identical melody later in a Beethoven Sonata - so similar I am almost certain Beethoven must have appropriated it, however no one who has talked about that sonata has mentioned it! It was included in a CD of piano music by Hélène Grimaud who also is a chamber player. Judging by the comments, it seems to have an interesting history behind it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1zZ3vdXIl1o
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Haha, no worries. Just thought I'd throw that stuff out there. I tend to get very enthusiastic when talking about opera.
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mogran posted:(didn't see any mention of this guy on this page so ) Kind of a strange guy, but the music was surprisingly pleasant. Neat that Toscanini & Benny Goodman backed him up in court. As for the music I've been listening to recently, opera & operetta is about it; particular composers have always interested me (Verdi, Wagner, Mozart, etc.), but this recent surge of interest has broadened my horizons. Franz Lehar seems to be neglected in this thread so I'll post a few of his best first (also note that some of these posts will be from telecasts or live video performances - while there are generally better versions of these pieces out there, I think rarities from the past bring them alive in a special sort of way): Giuseppe di Stefano, tenor, singing an Italian version of "Dein ist mein ganzes Herz" from Act II of Das Land des Lächelns: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2EtFGKs8tM Elisabeth Schwarzkopf, soprano, singing the "Vilja Song" from Act II of The Merry Widow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2jRkp6Ucho Not operetta & no video, but interesting nonetheless - Lehar himself conducting his famous "Gold and Silver Waltz" with the Zurich Tonnhalle Orchestra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfDJW6F-IhE To continue the Austrian theme - Johann Strauss II, a genius whose reputation is constantly in flux due to his music being alternately labelled as trivial fluff or spirited & clever depending on the current classical hipster crop. Georges Pretre conducting the Vienna Philharmonic, "Overture to Die Fledermaus" - eminently enjoyable, especially given how delightfully animated Pretre becomes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QROR4LioU-8 Fritz Wunderlich, tenor, singing "Nur für Natur" from yet another Act II, this time of Die lustige Krieg - Stutgarter Philharmonic, Fritz Mareczek conducting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gLUz0rsRw4 Eugene Ormandy conducting the Philadelphia Orchestra, "Rosen aus dem Suden" or "Roses from the South" waltz - a medley of themes from Strauss Jr.'s operetta "Das Spitzentuch der Königin": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1s9oM_vNlyY I've actually been focusing on Offenbach (someone please recommend a good recording of La Grande-Duchesse de Gérolstein), Janacek and Britten more than these two, but was looking to score some brownie points with all the Habsburg loyalists on the forums. Send over an AEIOU gift basket.
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It's amazing how widely certain composers' relative quality levels vary. Orchestra I play with has been working on Dvorak's Golden Spinning Wheel for the last couple weeks. Completely forgettable, more difficult than it needs to be, and, like most of Dvorak's stuff, makes the second trombone play alto clef  .Because the orchestra vocally hated it (I didn't say a word, the conductor has every right to choose the orchestra's repertoire regardless of what I think about it), we've switched over to Dvorak 8, which is a truly glorious, beautiful, moving and fun piece to play.
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Hah, I love this video so much. Just try and not have a spring in your step after watching, I loving dare you.
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I've never posted in this subforum before, but I came across something today that I thought was lovely to listen to and I wanted to share. This guy's name is Ryan Dorin, and he's pretty curious. Trust me. His website is all types of "what," and hasn't been updated recently. BUT His youtube channel is updated regularly with his children's story about ratboy's adventures using Minecraft and animation software for the videos. Occasionally he adds a piano piece, and those are what I stumbled across. http://www.ryandorin.com/ ....he also has a section for conspiracy theories on his website. found his use of changing time signatures to be confusing as hell but quite interesting. He ought to write video game music. Here's what he had to say about some of his music from "Piano Planet" quote:A short piano piece with musical score. This is what I imagine television news reports are like on a planet where they only speak piano. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0T0IbtOtQc - Art of Triad 4 #2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IV3kV2B9ME - Art of Triad 8 #1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRD3hwJFOL4 - Musical Score Spinning Cylinder: D minor (guitar improv) I feel silly for being so enchanted by these. Classical music doesn't usually get me, especially such simple sounding scores  the more I dig into his website and videos the more tempted I am to start a drat thread about all this. Composition, conspiracies, weird-as-hell animation and drawing, and so many other things.
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Performed Beethoven 7 last week, got another performance this week. Man this guy could write inspirational music. I've played lots of orchestra music and it happens more in Beethoven than anything else that the flutes, bassoons, clarinets and oboes move in exactly the same way, leading every note to the same place, without a word having to be said about it. Movement 2 is dark and brooding and stays in your head for days. Playing something as simple as two right notes and a quarter note on one note is somehow harder than my clarinet alone solo rep. Fuckin Beethoven dude.
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Warchicken posted:Performed Beethoven 7 last week, got another performance this week. Man this guy could write inspirational music. I've played lots of orchestra music and it happens more in Beethoven than anything else that the flutes, bassoons, clarinets and oboes move in exactly the same way, leading every note to the same place, without a word having to be said about it. Movement 2 is dark and brooding and stays in your head for days. Playing something as simple as two right notes and a quarter note on one note is somehow harder than my clarinet alone solo rep. Haha, I have to be careful listening to that movement or it will get stuck in my head for a week. It's almost too good, where film makers can use it as a cheat to make their movie seem even better. Irreversible comes to mind -- I like the movie, but I think the presence of this piece definitely boosted it in my mind. That said, the middle of the movement has always felt a bit out of place, tonality-wise, to the rest of it.
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Can anyone help me identify the piece of choral music that plays in the background of this site?  for sort of gross artsy photographs of body parts, stay away if you are squeamish.http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/ I'm sure I've heard it before, but I can't remember where. As far as I can tell, there are actually three-four separate snippets playing too, so I'm thinking they might be a recurring motif in a longer work?
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Can anyone help me identify the piece of choral music that plays in the background of this site? I know this won't be too helpful, but I've been listening to a lot of Bach lately and can almost guarantee that is a Bach piece. I'm not sure which piece though.
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Admiral Goodenough posted:Can anyone help me identify the piece of choral music that plays in the background of this site? I shazamed it. It's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrTEAzWtwM (Johann Sebastian Bach - BWV 0 227 - Jesu, meine Freude - 07. Weg mit allen Schätzen!) Shazam isn't always good at Classical music, but I think it got it right this time. Florida Betty fucked around with this message at 14:02 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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Florida Betty posted:I shazamed it. It's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrTEAzWtwM (Johann Sebastian Bach - BWV 0 227 - Jesu, meine Freude - 07. Weg mit allen Schätzen!) drat, I tried using Soundhound to find out which piece it was and it just blanked out as usual. Guess I'll have to download Shazam as I've been listening to classical almost exclusively for the last month or so and Soundhound never finds anything for me.
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Florida Betty posted:I shazamed it. It's this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPrTEAzWtwM (Johann Sebastian Bach - BWV 0 227 - Jesu, meine Freude - 07. Weg mit allen Schätzen!) Thank you so much! This has been driving me absolutely crazy so I really appreciate it. I also tried Soundhound without results, but stupidly didn't think of trying Shazam too.
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I know this is kind of a long shot, but if you guys could help me out, I'd be forever indebted. This film, Detropia. It's on netflix instant, great movie about the decay of Detroit. The opening is about three minutes long, and contains a piece that I listened to heavily in my childhood, but can't remember for the life of me who comped it. Help me out here NMD!
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timebandit posted:I know this is kind of a long shot, but if you guys could help me out, I'd be forever indebted. Can't see the movie, but is it the same piece at the beginning of the trailer? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkBnAp8WRDs If so that's Verdi. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGhd5kGM7dk X-O fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Oct 18, 2013 |
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Lot of Xenakis chat in this thread, can anyone help me out here? Last year one of the percussion majors at my college performed an amazing Xenakis piece. Instrumentation was a kick drum, pieces of wood, bells, hollow oxygen tanks, etc. Very wide range of percussive timbres. The music was notated on very large pieces of paper, and everything was notated graphically with dots. Anyone familiar with this one?
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oiseaux morts 1994 posted:sounds like Psappha m8 Yep that's the one thanks. Read up a little on it and Xenakis didn't call for specific instruments, just laid guidelines on what they should sound like ie this group is deep and woody, this group is sharp and clangy etc
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Can anyone give me some good jumping off points for Brahms? I feel like he's always been a giant void in my knowledge of classical music. The only works that I can remember coming back to are his 4th Symphony and some of his latter piano pieces like Op. 119. What chamber works are considered essential listening? What Piano Concerto would be the best to start off with? Thanks guys!
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The Dark Wind posted:Can anyone give me some good jumping off points for Brahms? I feel like he's always been a giant void in my knowledge of classical music. The only works that I can remember coming back to are his 4th Symphony and some of his latter piano pieces like Op. 119. What chamber works are considered essential listening? What Piano Concerto would be the best to start off with? Thanks guys! Brahms is a void for me as well, but I suggest you check out his G-minor piano rhapsody. As for his orchestral work... I have no idea. I guess I kind of ignore much of Brahms because I'm a Liszt fanboy. Speaking of Liszt, Les Préludes is such a good piece https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi7YB9dtKE0
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I'm not much of a Brahms fan myself, but I like his German Requiem. And I love the hell out of his first symphony, but that is plainly french horn bias.
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The Dark Wind posted:Can anyone give me some good jumping off points for Brahms? I feel like he's always been a giant void in my knowledge of classical music. The only works that I can remember coming back to are his 4th Symphony and some of his latter piano pieces like Op. 119. What chamber works are considered essential listening? What Piano Concerto would be the best to start off with? Thanks guys! As far as chamber music goes, I think you gotta listen to uhh lets see. The piano quintet, the second and third piano quartet, the first piano trio, and the clariniet quintet. His string quartets are good but not really essential honestly. his violin concerto is a masterpiece, you've got to listen to that. Brahms, for me, has always been the most difficult of the major composers. He's really rewarding, but you've got to put in a lot of effort up front. I think it's worth it though.
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Can anyone point me to some serialist orchestral works? Looking for things between like 1940 and 1970 I guess. Whatever pieces you think are cool, I'm just trying to get an understanding of it.
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ashgromnies posted:Can anyone point me to some serialist orchestral works? Looking for things between like 1940 and 1970 I guess. Whatever pieces you think are cool, I'm just trying to get an understanding of it. Boulez would be your main go to dude I would say! Pretty much anything by him has been serialized. Others composers that you might want to check out that have used serialist techniques more or less: Luciano Berio, Arne Nordheim (he didn't actually use it but was clearly inspired and sometimes would use an 11 tone row to piss off serialists, awesome composer nonetheless), Finn Mortensen (early on), Luigi Nono, Penderecki, Gorecki (early), Arvo Pärt (early), Stockhausen, etc etc etc. You should basically check out any composers that were part of the Darmstad school of thought after WWII although to truly understand serialism you should go back to Schönberg in the 1920s specifically. Sorry that I can't be more specific, I can't remember that much off the top of my head and I'm not a big serialism fan. If you do have specific questions about some serialist ideas, feel free to ask though. SNEAK EDIT: I completely forgot Milton Babbitt, go check out Milton Babbitt!
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The Dark Wind posted:Can anyone give me some good jumping off points for Brahms? I feel like he's always been a giant void in my knowledge of classical music. The only works that I can remember coming back to are his 4th Symphony and some of his latter piano pieces like Op. 119. What chamber works are considered essential listening? What Piano Concerto would be the best to start off with? Thanks guys! The requiem's been mentioned, it's a really amazing piece! I would also try his double concerto in a minor for violin and cello, there's a recording out there with perlman on violin and rostropovich on cello with the royal concertgebouw orchestra. I found it in one of my friend's record collections and then found it on spotify, so try that!
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I was fortunate enough to attend a Ring Cycle, and now I love Wagner. (Not the person, he was a scumbag of the highest order, but the music.) Who is like him? It doesn't have to be opera.
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The Arnold Schoenberg orchestration of the Brahms piano quartet is excellent. Here's the final movement being conducted by Paavo Jarvi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmeTwJq38Po Mahler fucked around with this message at 22:36 on Dec 1, 2013 |
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monster on a stick posted:I was fortunate enough to attend a Ring Cycle, and now I love Wagner. (Not the person, he was a scumbag of the highest order, but the music.) Who is like him? It doesn't have to be opera. Strauss and Mahler. Strauss's operas are pretty great.
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And to clarify, it's Richard Strauss. Johann Strauss is a bit different  Englebert Humperdinck was a student of Wagner's and comes across as something of Wagner-lite. His opera Hansel and Gretel is excellent. Late Verdi may also work.
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regulargonzalez posted:And to clarify, it's Richard Strauss. Johann Strauss is a bit different Thanks, I'm familiar with Strauss' most famous work (e.g. the piece used in 2001); never thought about Humperdinck, will have to try him. And forgot about Mahler, he's incredible. I'm going to see Rigoletto next month And they are also doing The Consul which appears to be the operatic version of the game Papers, Please.
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Just wanted to post about something I went to last week. I saw Dido and Aenaes at my college. They put an interesting spin on it though, and played all the music through old korgs and moogs. They didn't change a word or a note of the opera, but the instrumentation change and the costuming really made it interesting! They called it Dido on the Beach 
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^^ lol. I can't imagine it sounded much like Philip Glass.monster on a stick posted:Thanks, I'm familiar with Strauss' most famous work (e.g. the piece used in 2001); never thought about Humperdinck, will have to try him. And forgot about Mahler, he's incredible. Strauss's most famous opera is probably Salome. I can strongly recommend the Teresa Stratas dvd; her voice wouldn't be sufficient in a live setting but in this film version it's perfect and the recording is really the definitive version of the opera. If you want something a bit lighter, the Voigt / Dessay Ariadne auf Naxos is spectacular (though I have a tough time buying pre-gastric band Voigt as a desirable princess. Of course that's a matter left to the individual viewer, how much the visual portion infringes on the aural part of opera). Rigoletto's a good one for sure. More of a numbers piece than Wagner's stuff but what numbers! regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 2, 2013 |
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The Dark Wind posted:Can anyone give me some good jumping off points for Brahms? I feel like he's always been a giant void in my knowledge of classical music. The only works that I can remember coming back to are his 4th Symphony and some of his latter piano pieces like Op. 119. What chamber works are considered essential listening? What Piano Concerto would be the best to start off with? Thanks guys! Certainly all four symphonies, especially the 3rd, as well as the german requiem, which has been mentioned.
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