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I'm finding SHIELD really dull and feels like it's a generic action show from the 90s. It's only the first season though so I'm not ruling it out. Star Trek TNG sucked balls for the entire first two seasons.
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Nov 22, 2013 04:14
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I'm giving SHIELD to the end of this season - if they can make a compelling arc to take us into season 2, I'm game. I keep reminding myself how yawn-worthy most of the first season of Fringe was, and look what that turned into. (At least in seasons 2 and 3. I haven't seen 4 or 5.)
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Nov 22, 2013 04:24
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Mu Zeta posted:I'm finding SHIELD really dull and feels like it's a generic action show from the 90s. It's only the first season though so I'm not ruling it out. Star Trek TNG sucked balls for the entire first two seasons. TNG has gems among the mostly garbage first season. Even more in the second before purging most of what was wrong with the show. I'd be concerned if SHIELD doesn't have any gems by the end of the season. You've got to have something to build off of.
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God help me but I'm actually enjoying Ground Floor. It's light and breezy and good for a few chuckles.
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Nov 22, 2013 05:55
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Thwomp posted:I'd be concerned if SHIELD doesn't have any gems by the end of the season. You've got to have something to build off of. I don't know if any episodes qualify as "gems" but it's been enjoyable enough to me. Clark Gregg really carries that show.
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The Collector posted:God help me but I'm actually enjoying Ground Floor. It's light and breezy and good for a few chuckles. I watched the first couple of episodes and enjoyed it well enough but was always on the brink of giving up. Its light enough but it wasn't really hooking me in any way. I was basically watching for John McGinley's ridiculously over the top character. I think I forgot to set to record it tonight though. Whoops.
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McSpanky posted:I know someone who was severely abused as a child and now they watch a lot of violent crime documentaries, including a lot of the "informative murder porn" on ID, as a kind of immersion therapy. Well, L&O: SVU is still like 50% murder porn, even if the murder doesn't happen before the credits, there's still a pretty good chance that someone will get raped and murdered before the show is over. At least with the "informative murder porn" on ID, it's pretty easy to spot the killer, since they're either the spouse, or the lover on the side. My mom always keeps those shows running in the background, which makes it a bit disturbing going to visit her. thrakkorzog fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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thrakkorzog posted:Well, L&O: SVU is still like 50% murder porn, even if the murder doesn't happen before the credits, there's still a pretty good chance that someone will get raped and murdered before the show is over. Oh yeah, for sure, but SVU rarely produces the same... how can I put this... enthusiasm that the the Criminal Minds production seems to take pride in, especially with the terror of the victims and the novelty of the psycopathies. There was a stretch for a few seasons where it felt like the writers were in a contest to come up with the saddest and most perverse atrocities they could imagine. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Nov 22, 2013 10:50
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Chamberk posted:I'm giving SHIELD to the end of this season - if they can make a compelling arc to take us into season 2, I'm game. I keep reminding myself how yawn-worthy most of the first season of Fringe was, and look what that turned into. That's basically 'the plot'. In many ways season 4 is a different story. And even better, season 5 is an extended epilogue to the already extended epilogue that was season 4. It's cool if you care about the characters involved, and it was ballsy as hell, but I could see it turning people off.
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I haven't watched SVU in years but at least in the early seasons when I did watch it never struck me as "murder porn" at all. It had dark, horrible things on it but it largely dealt with the aftermath and psychology or emotion of it. There was lots of twisted stuff but it always came off to me as a more humanistic look at it and how that evil affects people. The idea behind Law & Order as I understand it is that its not really about cops chasing down crooks so much as its about cops catching criminals and lawyers convicting them. So that format tends to lead to less focus on the crime itself in action. On the other hand the stuff I've seen of Criminal Minds is just all episode filled with torture, abuse, and violence. Watching victims squirm and suffer as the cops (or feds or whatever) try to find them and stop the guy mid act. I think that's a different kind of ordeal to sit through, or at least it is for me. I may be interested in exploring the consequences of horrible things people go through but there's no part of me that wants to live through it or watch it. But I've heard SVU gotten much more sensationalistic and crude since I quit watching a long time ago so maybe its a lot more like Criminal Minds than I remember.
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Random Stranger posted:Almost Human is almost enjoyable to me. I'm also awestruck by Minka Kelly's performance, which is so dead it's undead at this point.
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STAC Goat posted:I haven't watched SVU in years but at least in the early seasons when I did watch it never struck me as "murder porn" at all. It had dark, horrible things on it but it largely dealt with the aftermath and psychology or emotion of it. There was lots of twisted stuff but it always came off to me as a more humanistic look at it and how that evil affects people. The idea behind Law & Order as I understand it is that its not really about cops chasing down crooks so much as its about cops catching criminals and lawyers convicting them. So that format tends to lead to less focus on the crime itself in action.
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Mindy Project and Dads are on hiatus due to low ratings. Mindy Project is going to come back in April, after Brooklyn 99 finishes its season. There is no return date announced for Dads.
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Clamknuckle posted:The only people who get tortured are the cops and the occasional DA. SVU has monkeys in balls 
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McSpanky posted:Oh yeah, for sure, but SVU rarely produces the same... how can I put this... enthusiasm that the the Criminal Minds production seems to take pride in, especially with the terror of the victims and the novelty of the psycopathies. There was a stretch for a few seasons where it felt like the writers were in a contest to come up with the saddest and most perverse atrocities they could imagine. SVU is more about Just World revenge porn by way of heinous police and/or prosecutorial misconduct.
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IRQ posted:SVU is more about Just World revenge porn by way of heinous police and/or prosecutorial misconduct. What do yoe expect when the main cop is played by Keller from OZ?
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Here's Brian Cranston and Aaron Paul reading the Breaking Bad finale script for the first time (obv. spoilers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXfUv2svQVU
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It never gets much notice compared to its partner programming/lead-ins on USA but Covert Affairs just wrapped a pretty impressive fourth season. Definitely one of the better USA shows.
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Nov 22, 2013 16:42
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I want a Hank/Max spinoff from Parenthood.
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My roommate finally realized that Parenthood existed last night so she was catching up on the season. I asked her if they were still all unlikeable people, and even though I was joking, the more we discussed it, the more I realized there were only two or three cast members left which I still liked before checking out part-way through last season: Camille and Ray Romano. And I guess Crosby's kid is pretty adorable. Her response to it was, "I enjoy not liking these people. They make me feel better about who I am."
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Nov 22, 2013 17:22
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Camille's a boss this season. She does what she wants.
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Mu Zeta posted:Remember how Haddie used to exist? I'm glad if she doesn't anymore, the only character more insufferable than her is Julia. It's weird though because the first season, maybe some of second season, the characters made for an enjoyable hour of television. But it seems like somewhere along the way they replace all the writers with people that vehemently hate every single character on the show.
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Hey ABC why can't you let me enjoy the Chew on my lunch break. JFK ceremonies aren't 'breaking news' you could schedule this you know.
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Party Plane Jones posted:It never gets much notice compared to its partner programming/lead-ins on USA but Covert Affairs just wrapped a pretty impressive fourth season. Definitely one of the better USA shows. Completely agree. The finale last night was great (though I was almost certain Annie was going to get captured by the Chinese, 24-style, at the end). Really curious to see where they go with the story now.
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You guys aren't making me very excited to keep watching Parenthood. I'm almost done with season two and I have slightly less than a season until I catch up to where I was when I stopped watching before. I wanted to at least see Ray Romano in it but I'm not sure if I'll be able to put up with it if every other character becomes completely unlikeable.
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I still enjoy the show and don't hate anyone.
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I'm after a new family drama in the same vein actually. I've seen Parenthood, Six Feet Under, Switched at Birth, The Lying Game, the OC, Gilmore Girls & Bunheads (RIP) and am going through Raising Hope now... that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I like them all to a greater or lesser degree, and of all of them I can recognise SFU as technically "the Best One" but for some reason I enjoyed Switched at Birth the most. Anything else out there that is similar and may have flown under my radar? I get the same thing from these shows as I used to get from watching Neighbours and Home & Away when I got home from school. Just a kind of pleasant glazed-eye trance state.
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Mu Zeta posted:I still enjoy the show and don't hate anyone. Same here, it's not like they're cackling cartoon villains. They're human beings going through poo poo. It happens in life.
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Cactus posted:I'm after a new family drama in the same vein actually. I've seen Parenthood, Six Feet Under, Switched at Birth, The Lying Game, the OC, Gilmore Girls & Bunheads (RIP) and am going through Raising Hope now... that's all I can think of off the top of my head. I like them all to a greater or lesser degree, and of all of them I can recognise SFU as technically "the Best One" but for some reason I enjoyed Switched at Birth the most. Anything else out there that is similar and may have flown under my radar? I've seen a couple episodes of Brothers and Sisters and it has a similar vibe. I agree that Six Feet Under is the best of these types of shows.
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I think I asked about Brothers & Sisters in this thread ages ago (or it might have been the teen melodrama thread) and the consensus seemed to be not to waste my time it's poo poo. Might give the first few episodes a try and see for myself now that I have a bunch of spare time available again. I have a high tolerance for poo poo 
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I've heard The Fosters (also ABC Family) was good but I've never actually watched it. Friday Night Lights might scratch your itch if you haven't seen it. 
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Sophia posted:7th Heaven. You're cruel. I really wish Everwood was on netflix, that was one really good family drama that didn't resort to over the top soapy antics. Also, Chris Pratt.
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hope and vaseline posted:You're cruel. According to The Merchants of Cool, 7th Heaven was a cold and calculated move by WB to appeal to the kind of people who were shocked and outraged at the lack of overt religion and traditional family values in network television yet it backfired when the network eventually decided to put up more risque content like Dawson's Creek. Knowing that it's kind of a brilliant work of self-parody in retrospect, where you have a "family friendly" show where drugs, gangs, and patricide are subjects of episodes. quote:DOUGLAS RUSHKOFF: Jessica Biel's first big part was on a fledgling television network devoted to the teenager, the WB. She played a minister's daughter on the wholesome teen drama 7th Heaven. 7th Heaven was part of the WB's newly devised formula, radical by the standards of teen television: Keep it clean. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wkvVs91TUI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB24X05F0wI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_TsWbrWfs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSUmZwsdhaQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIfMcX1WTmM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PZaAIFhZN4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iA5sxs1ZD5I
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It is sort of funny they went from 7th Heaven to Buffy the next year and finally Dawson Creek. I guess that plot only lasted one season.
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The rampant success of Duck Dynasty, as much as I do not care for it, is a clear sign to me that people who want "family friendly" (read: Christian principled without a lot of sex humor) shows and humor is a demo that's being majorly undeserved and are hungry for content and some network should try to capitalize on it with a night of clean, family friendly sitcoms and dramas. But I'm not sure who would even go that direction except maybe NBC.
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Sophia posted:The rampant success of Duck Dynasty, as much as I do not care for it, is a clear sign to me that people who want "family friendly" (read: Christian principled without a lot of sex humor) shows and humor is a demo that's being majorly undeserved and are hungry for content and some network should try to capitalize on it with a night of clean, family friendly sitcoms and dramas. But I'm not sure who would even go that direction except maybe NBC. See also: Literally everything Tyler Perry has produced.
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At first I was thinking that ABC Family could fit that demo, but then I realized that it airs that Secret Life of the American Teenager show, where not having sex is just as important as talking about not having sex for the entirety of every episode. Although it did have the best guest star ever in the history of television https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqrjN8peOiE
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