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It's interesting that this place is called the "Old Capitol". Like the Folks who lived here have just moved or something.
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I think the best course of action is to have Keats find the truth and head to the Swamp. Also, I have this WILD speculation about the event of the past, but as of this moment, it is late for me and I have a job interview/test tomorrow. I'll either edit this post or just make another post tomorrow when I can go hunt stuff down.
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Interesting dilemma. But I think if Keats can trust Ellen to get the job done, he should go to the Palace . My reasoning is: Ellen is interested in her past. She should thus be best served by chasing Herve and his memory since he was in the thick of what happened. Keats is looking into Dr. Lester, who should be absorbed into the Folklore. So it follows that he should set his sights on recovering information from that and head to the Palace.
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Oct 25, 2013 14:32
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It'd be more in character for Ellen to chase down Herve. Keats gotta go to the Palace.
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Well, unfortunately, despite the lack of recent support for the Palace, I think the Swamp route has a pretty commanding lead and I don't expect a sudden outpouring of support for letting Ellen handle Herve. VOTING IS CLOSED, and Keats will be heading into the Swamp of Oblivion. To me, it makes a bit more sense - even though Keats wants information about the present and Ellen is more interested in the past, Dr. Lester seems much more likely to know anything about Ellen, and as Keats said at the beginning of the chapter, the murders of past and present are linked - it doesn't really seem to matter as much who investigates which. The Swamp sounds like the more dangerous of the two options (even though the tutorial Faery said they were equally treacherous), so I would expect Keats the Guardian to take that route and leave the more stable path to Ellen. Moreover, both Livane and the Faery Lord seem to feel that their chosen ones should be fighting the Folklore, and I think Keats has far more incentive to go against that instruction than Ellen has - I believe she still sees the Faery Lord as holding the key to her memory, while Livane still hasn't properly explained to Keats how helping her will reveal any of the answers he's looking for. That's really beside the point, though. I probably won't get around to recording the footage until tomorrow, given how many videos have been posted today, but we'll see. We'll also see the results of this decision hopefully the first weekend of November - work is picking up and I have no idea when I might be called away on travel, so I'm hoping to build up a reasonable backlog of videos for the rest of the chapter and be prepared to miss being able to work on them during the weeks. The holiday season may or may not help with that. Also, while I don't know whether Red Rover plans to say much about the Folks of the Undersea City, if there are any marine biologists watching the LP who think they may be able to contribute to a grinding video, let me know so I have my options available.
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So, my grand backlog plan has failed rather miserably. I've had a lot less time at home than I normally would, and the video editing has taken a fair bit longer than usual because there are a LOT of quests this time around - to the tune of over an hour and a half of raw video footage just for that segment. I've broken it into two videos, and the non-DLC quests still run about 40 minutes before I attempt to employ some strategic speed-ups and trims, so I may just have to let that one run long. I'll see how my schedule goes this week, but I don't expect to be able to get the first quest video up until Veterans' Day proper, if then. Still, I think this month will have a lot of fun in store. The only thing I don't really like about the rest of the chapter is the relative lack of variety of Folks, and even at that, we get one of the best in this video. You'll see what I mean eventually. Until then, enjoy the journey through the Swamp of Oblivion. Keats Chapter 3 - Combat Second Half: Youtube
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Nov 4, 2013 01:14
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The second half of this chapter was probably the hardest part of the game for me. Those Aughuskies kicked my rear end so hard, and capturing Exedra is only slightly easier than Shefro. The first time I fought Exedra, it got back up three times while I was failing to properly absorb its id. The second time I accidentally killed it because I kept failing the timing to capture it. Once I got enough to release its karma I never fought the thing again. Kraken, on the other hand, I ran into by accident and didn't even realize it was a new folk at first. I thought Exedra had for some reason decided to spawn in a new place, and I didn't realize my mistake until it gave me the "you caught a new folk!" message. Yes, even with the different capture method I thought it was the same folk.  Despite the increase in damage, though, I think the balance capture method makes Kraken overall easier than Exedra.
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Golden_Zucchini posted:The second half of this chapter was probably the hardest part of the game for me. There's a reason that the Faery at the start of the chapter reminds you that you can retreat to the save point to heal at any time. I'll be doing that myself during the grinding video because some of the early Swamp screens tend to tear me apart. Especially when dealing with miniboss Folks, the higher drop rates for healing items don't really help unless you're killing things. I think the key is knowing when you can spare a slot for Agar-Agar and using it liberally.
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Time to Unleash The Kraken on some poor folks. Fitting for the 
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The staggered nature of the fight theme notes probably are party why it sounds neat sped up. I don't know why Keats is surprised an old person like Dr Lester has a will, this is somewhat common for seniors to make a will in case something happens. What was the Twin Brother Kings referencing to? You mentioned it seemed familiar, but I must have missed the mention of it before (maybe something in RedRover's mythology talk).
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PlaceholderPigeon posted:I don't know why Keats is surprised an old person like Dr Lester has a will, this is somewhat common for seniors to make a will in case something happens. That line struck me as a bit odd too, but I didn't give myself time to say so in the video. Perhaps it's that the doctor hid the will in the locked church rather than giving it to someone he could trust - it seems that the will wasn't meant to be found. It might also be a fluke of translation - I don't think what's in that desk is so much a "will" as one of those letters you find a lot in fiction that says "if you're reading this, it means I've been murdered, and here's the important information I've kept hidden" sorts of things. The translators might not have been able to find a better word for it. PlaceholderPigeon posted:What was the Twin Brother Kings referencing to? You mentioned it seemed familiar, but I must have missed the mention of it before (maybe something in RedRover's mythology talk). I was thinking of the Táin story that Rover described, yes, but on doing further research (i.e. the usual few minutes on Wikipedia), I found that Atlantis was supposedly ruled by five pairs of twin sons of Poseidon, so maybe that's what they're referring to. Anyone who can shed more light on the subject and perhaps fill a half-hour grinding video, feel free to apply for a guest spot. We've probably got about three weeks to do the recording.
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I was terrible at the balance method when I was capturing Kraken the first time I played through this game. Imagine how exciting it is to spend all that time bringing out Kraken's id, only for you to spend so long trying to capture it the game breaks it off and makes you restart damaging it all over again from full hp.
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Childre Inarabitta posted:I was terrible at the balance method when I was capturing Kraken the first time I played through this game. Imagine how exciting it is to spend all that time bringing out Kraken's id, only for you to spend so long trying to capture it the game breaks it off and makes you restart damaging it all over again from full hp. I... I'm so sorry. Were you able to catch it eventually at least? I get the impression that it is a drastic improvement over the miniboss as an ice-type attack so I'd imagine it's a high priority folk.
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GrandHound posted:I... I'm so sorry. Were you able to catch it eventually at least? I get the impression that it is a drastic improvement over the miniboss as an ice-type attack so I'd imagine it's a high priority folk. Yea, I was able to capture it on the second try thankfully. Kraken was definitely worth the effort and I remember it being a mainstay in my arsenal throughout the game. Exedra not so much.
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I don't think it's quite back to full HP if you fail to capture a Folk - at least, in the escort quests, when a Folk's red Id disappears, they recover to about 2/3 of their full HP. In Kraken's case, that's still a pretty long fight, but it's probably two fewer iterations of its pattern to take it down the second time. Another advantage to not finding it until the endgame - I'd become pretty proficient at all of the capture methods by then, even after a years-long hiatus. Just capturing the endgame Folks was probably all the practice I needed, and I think that was when I did a full run back through the fifth Realm looking for the Cloak, so I captured a lot of various Folks.
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Over the past few days I've shotgunned this entire LP and I'm about a hair away from buying a ps3 just to play this. It has an aesthetic that I can't really match with anything else. The dialogue is a little awkwardly translated but the atmosphere of the game more than makes up for it. Plus I really love monster capturin' games. Ever heard of Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner? 100%'d that dumb thing. Anyway, in regard to the latest update, the Annwn's bubbly cheeks are adorable.
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Baron Von Baragon posted:Ever heard of Monster Kingdom: Jewel Summoner? Not until this comment, but now I'm intrigued. Apparently, Folklore was originally developed as Monster Kingdom: Unknown Realms before the story diverged. The rest of it sounds like a cross between Pokemon and Ni no Kuni - not the sort of thing I'm likely to have time for, but I'll keep my eyes open in used game stores and see if I can get a copy to check out.
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In all honestly it's probably not worth picking up. The voice acting is surprisingly top notch and the game is all very pretty, but there are only 100 monsters and probably a third of them are color swaps. The gameplay isn't all that great either. Think pokemon but with half the elements.
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Are you supposed to come back for the Kraken later on when you've got more powerful Folks?
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Glazius posted:Are you supposed to come back for the Kraken later on when you've got more powerful Folks? Possibly, but not nearly in the same way as Shefro. You have the Folks to fight Kraken at this point, and they won't be getting any stronger for a long time - I don't remember there being any Fire Folks more suited to the fight than the ones I have, with the possible exception of one from the endgame, and I'm pretty sure there's no better Destroy Folk than Gargantua. Kraken is more of a reward for diligently searching the Undersea City once you realize that you missed a Folk there - and it didn't even occur to me to do that until I downloaded the DLC and did some of the quests, which filled in one of the empty slots in my Bestiary with a Folk that I'd seen but not captured. We'll get to that eventually - I honestly don't remember in which chapter that quest appears; or even whether the different parts appear at different times, or the first one is unlocked at a certain time and the rest appear when you complete the preceding parts. In any case, I remember the Kraken fight being just as long and difficult in the endgame as it was in this video.
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Honestly, this video could probably have benefited from a bit more work, but I just don't think I can afford the time. I called Annwn "Asrai" once and referred to Halflives as Folks once, but oh well. There's a lot of good in here to balance out the bad. Now, I could have given you screenshots of Frizzie scaring the crap out of a character who hasn't been introduced yet (and I honestly don't remember whether he ever becomes part of the main story), or Keats telling a Bug-a-boo to go frolic with its friends, or pretty much any moment from the third quest - they all look about the same - but I had to go with the best line from the video, as always, and you know who's going to say it: Fans of the Halflives will have a lot of fun with this video. Fans of fair fights might want to bail out at the halfway point and wait until the next video, where I get to unleash the full fury of my Folk palette on some easy prey. Until then, strap in for a long but exciting set of quests. Keats Chapter 3 - Quests First Half Youtube
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I like how the game implies that the Annwyn just had a Folk in its pocket. Also, poor Keats just can't catch a break  Oh, Charlie.
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Shei-kun posted:I like how the game implies that the Annwyn just had a Folk in its pocket. A Folk that rather distinctly bears the hallmarks of being from Warcadia, yet. We'll see a lot more of it in the next two videos, but it's pretty distinctly a machine-type, and the description says they suspect there's a deserter Bullseye inside.
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It's also one of my all-time favorite folks, and I used it straight until the end of the game after I completed this DLC. Looking forward to it being shown off!
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Seeing you go through these quests again made me remember how patient you had to be with this game. There were times where I just wanted to give up on the grinding but the story was always there to keep me going. I'm still enjoying the videos however! How much further until you get Automata? It's been years so I don't remember, but that was easily my favorite DLC folk in the game.
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Childre Inarabitta posted:How much further until you get Automata? It's been years so I don't remember, but that was easily my favorite DLC folk in the game. I don't remember most of the quests or what comes of them, so I can't answer that question. I guess we'll both find out as I go along! To be honest, there's at least one quest I never managed to beat when I played through the game, but taking my time for this LP and grinding for Karmas has given me a better appreciation of all the Folks I have, so I'm hoping I can get that one done this time around. It may just take a few tries, because that specific quest is more a matter of planning than skill.
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It is kind of adorable taking Bugaboo for a walk in the forest. He looks so huggable!
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Glazius posted:It is kind of adorable taking Bugaboo for a walk in the forest. He looks so huggable! I kind of wish you could do this with every Folk you captured, but given the number of them, that might be too many. At least give us a model viewer so we could see these strange creatures up close and personal instead of static images on a picture book; I never even knew that Bug-a-Boos had such starkly innocent eyes until that last video.
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The DLC quests for Keats in chapter 3 don't really add much, but I put them in their own video because they're pretty long and involved. You've already seen the first one, but this time, I'll be covering the entire quest from beginning to end. There's also another one that mashes together a bunch of different elements that we've already seen. You have to pay for these, but you get your money's worth, especially if you buy the discounted bundles. So let's get a formal introduction to one of our DLC Folks and brazenly taunt someone who could probably blow Keats' head off if he felt like it. Keats Chapter 3 - Quests Second Half Youtube
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Hey Nidoking. So, a friend of mine owns this game, I unfortunately don't, and has the Maximilian DLC. I did some testing to try and figure out what charging Maximilian does and it turns out that charging up Maximilian ONLY increases the area it hits, not it's damage. If there is any difference, it's minute enough that it still takes the same amount of hits to bring out a Hawk's red Id charged and uncharged and probably won't make a difference unless you're fighting a mini-boss or a Folklore. Hopefully this helps someone out if they're playing along and were having trouble because they we charging against single targets to try and increase their damage or other little mistakes like that.
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GrandHound posted:Hey Nidoking. So, a friend of mine owns this game, I unfortunately don't, and has the Maximilian DLC. I did some testing to try and figure out what charging Maximilian does and it turns out that charging up Maximilian ONLY increases the area it hits, not it's damage. If there is any difference, it's minute enough that it still takes the same amount of hits to bring out a Hawk's red Id charged and uncharged and probably won't make a difference unless you're fighting a mini-boss or a Folklore. Hopefully this helps someone out if they're playing along and were having trouble because they we charging against single targets to try and increase their damage or other little mistakes like that. Thanks! That's good to know. After this chapter, I've still got one Karma to build up for Maximilian, and I may still use it when I'm fighting groups of Folks, so it's good to know that charging isn't useful for single targets.
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It's kind of embarrassing to watch Keats trying to carry on a conversation with a Folk who just keeps playing its idle animation the entire time.
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Glazius posted:It's kind of embarrassing to watch Keats trying to carry on a conversation with a Folk who just keeps playing its idle animation the entire time. It was weirdest for me when it was the very bouncy Asari/Annwn idle animation with Keats talking to them.
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I think there may be one Folk that actually has dialogue during its quest, but I can't remember. I guess we'll find out eventually.
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I just started watching this LP and just finished the two prologues, but you're doing a great job Nidoking! I picked this game up years a go and only got to chapter 2 or 3 before losing interest or some other reason. This game is super cool though. Love the music, art style, and setting. I wish there were more games like this.
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D_W posted:I just started watching this LP and just finished the two prologues, but you're doing a great job Nidoking! I picked this game up years a go and only got to chapter 2 or 3 before losing interest or some other reason. This game is super cool though. Love the music, art style, and setting. I wish there were more games like this. Folklore does get a bit samey - it helps a bit that I'm LPing it, so I only play a chapter every month and a half or so, and I have a record of what's happened so far so it's easier to remember the relevant details. Glad you're enjoying the LP, though. So what say we have a bit more of it? This week, it's more grinding, which means more mythology with Red Rover. I was surprised at just how much legend there was for this chapter - I think Warcadia really is the exception, since it's meant to be based on more modern beliefs rather than ancient folklore. Still, we managed to fit in references to my favorite novel series and one of my favorite cartoons from when I was a kid (okay, I was in high school by the time I discovered Rocko's Modern Life, but it holds up even today), and I probably got very confused about at least one fairy tale along the way. And I almost died.  Keats Chapter 3 - Grinding: Youtube I think my confusion about the Swan Princess was a conflation with either the manga series Ceres: Celestial Legend or Angel Sanctuary - there are plotlines featuring angels who came to the world of humans and had their wings, in the form of cloaks, stolen and hidden. The more familiar form of the Swan Princess legend has her weaving fine wool for her husband, with instructions that he's not to watch her do it. Eventually, he looks in on her weaving, discovers that she's a swan, and she loses her human form and returns to the ocean. I wouldn't doubt that there's a story out there of the form I described, but it's probably not quite what I was thinking of. Then again, I could be wrong about all of this. Corrections and expert information are welcome. I do, at least, think I know what Rover was thinking of when he said Drarucu sounded familiar, because there's a similar Folk for Ellen in this chapter that IS based on an actual legendary creature. But we'll get to that eventually. I'm hoping I can get the Brigantia video done this weekend and posted before Thanksgiving, since the following weekend would be a great time to record the next chapter.
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Rocko's Modern Life was one of my favourites growing up. This may be one of the best things ever done in the history of cartooning.
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I probably have one of the worst senses of humor on the planet, if not in any wider scope, but I remain convinced that the entire Wacky Delly episode is the funniest thing that will ever exist in the history of the universe, and defy anyone to disagree. This is, of course, mainly because of the premiere episode of the cartoon-within-the-cartoon that forms the centerpiece of the entire experience, but the complete satire of the entertainment industry and everything associated with it is brilliant. If the second funniest thing isn't the Cromartie High School manga series, I don't want to know what is.
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Cromartie High School. You have a good sense of humor. You're a gentleman and a scholar, good sir. I guess I'm also a little disappointed that some of the monster are basically recolors of one and another.
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I watched Rocko's Modern Life on a regular basis in high school, too, but for some reason I remember very little about it except that it was good. The main thing I remember (aside from ___day is a very dangerous day) was Heifer's encounter with a milking machine. That's one of those things that I really wonder how they managed to get it through on a children's TV show. Regarding swan women, I know that there is at least one (I want to say two but I don't feel like double checking right now) stories in the Arabian Nights about a young prince who gets in a shipwreck and ends up in some mystical castle. The master of the castle gives him free reign of the place except for one forbidden room. Of course when the master goes on a trip the prince gives in to temptation and opens the room only to find a path to beautiful lake. While he's there, a group of swans (or possible other waterfowl) arrive, take of the feathers and become beautiful naked women who proceed to bathe in the lake. The prince falls in love but since the women flee every time he appears he wastes away form desire until the master returns who, instead of punishing him for breaking the rules, tells him to steal one of their cloaks of feathers. The prince does so and makes the chosen girl marry him. They return to the prince's castle and live happily for a few years until the woman happens across the cloak the prince stole and is unable to resist her instinct to put it on and fly home (despite the fact that she's perfectly happy living with this guy kidnapped her and forced her into marriage and motherhood). The prince the goes on may adventures to find out where she originally came from and claim her hand in a more legal way. That was probably a lot more detail than necessary, but the point is that swan women are more common than might be expected, and the idea of people having a cloak or other clothing that allows them to change into animal form is extremely widespread.
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