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Wezlar
May 13, 2005



What songs is Kendrick doing? I feel like he could put together at least a 10 song setlist with the proper ups and downs for a stadium show?

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SuperMechagodzilla
Jun 9, 2007

NEWT REBORN

The_Rob posted:

My favorite part about the bound 2 video is that he chose to debut it on the Ellen show. It's a video where he fucks Kim kardasian on a dirt bike. He is forcefully taking claim of white culture and it's probably the funniest thing he has ever done.

Yeah pretty much.

It's not loving complicated. The rear-projection is super-fake on purpose. Kim is shot like a L'Oreal commercial and, though the motorcycle's obviously not moving, the projectors transport him into some kind of Wolf-Shirt Americana paradise. It's roughly the same sort of imagery as in Easy Rider, but distorted. He's wearing designer versions of hippie clothes and rugged outdoorsman gear.

The editing intercuts Ye gliding though the air, him riding the bike alone, and him riding the bike with his wife, so there's this implication that the bike and even Kim are not entirely real either. But then, the entire song is about trying to settle down into an illusory 'normal life'. Ye talks about placating his girl with expensive vacations so she won't complain, and the Fight Club reference obviously evokes the idea of violence underneath a plastic everyday life. One of the last lines, after all these long-rear end verses, is "Jesus wept." - which is a direct quote of the shortest verse in the Bible, where Jesus reacts to the horrific reality of death. This is in the context of Ye telling his lover to got to sleep and forget the past. The next thing that happens in the Bible is Lazarus' resurrection.

The video is about how American culture is plastic bullshit, fueled with blood, but he's going to take it and make it his - turn it into a performance.

This is really basic like high-school level stuff.

roach cum puddle
Jun 22, 2013

by Ralp

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Yeah pretty much.

It's not loving complicated. The rear-projection is super-fake on purpose. Kim is shot like a L'Oreal commercial and, though the motorcycle's obviously not moving, the projectors transport him into some kind of Wolf-Shirt Americana paradise. It's roughly the same sort of imagery as in Easy Rider, but distorted. He's wearing designer versions of hippie clothes and rugged outdoorsman gear.

The editing intercuts Ye gliding though the air, him riding the bike alone, and him riding the bike with his wife, so there's this implication that the bike and even Kim are not entirely real either. But then, the entire song is about trying to settle down into an illusory 'normal life'. Ye talks about placating his girl with expensive vacations so she won't complain, and the Fight Club reference obviously evokes the idea of violence underneath a plastic everyday life. One of the last lines, after all these long-rear end verses, is "Jesus wept." - which is a direct quote of the shortest verse in the Bible, where Jesus reacts to the horrific reality of death. This is in the context of Ye telling his lover to got to sleep and forget the past. The next thing that happens in the Bible is Lazarus' resurrection.

The video is about how American culture is plastic bullshit, fueled with blood, but he's going to take it and make it his - turn it into a performance.

This is really basic like high-school level stuff.

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Yeah pretty much.

It's not loving complicated. The rear-projection is super-fake on purpose. Kim is shot like a L'Oreal commercial and, though the motorcycle's obviously not moving, the projectors transport him into some kind of Wolf-Shirt Americana paradise. It's roughly the same sort of imagery as in Easy Rider, but distorted. He's wearing designer versions of hippie clothes and rugged outdoorsman gear.

The editing intercuts Ye gliding though the air, him riding the bike alone, and him riding the bike with his wife, so there's this implication that the bike and even Kim are not entirely real either. But then, the entire song is about trying to settle down into an illusory 'normal life'. Ye talks about placating his girl with expensive vacations so she won't complain, and the Fight Club reference obviously evokes the idea of violence underneath a plastic everyday life. One of the last lines, after all these long-rear end verses, is "Jesus wept." - which is a direct quote of the shortest verse in the Bible, where Jesus reacts to the horrific reality of death. This is in the context of Ye telling his lover to got to sleep and forget the past. The next thing that happens in the Bible is Lazarus' resurrection.

The video is about how American culture is plastic bullshit, fueled with blood, but he's going to take it and make it his - turn it into a performance.

This is really basic like high-school level stuff.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Do you have a blog? I would love to hear more of you dissect the meaning of things.

40 lbs to freedom
Apr 13, 2007

temple posted:

PS1 graphics are for hacks.XboxOne: true genius console.

i literally have no clue what point you are trying to make by this but im almost positive that it is loving stupid

Kid Gloves
Jul 31, 2013

by XyloJW

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

Yeah pretty much.

It's not loving complicated. The rear-projection is super-fake on purpose. Kim is shot like a L'Oreal commercial and, though the motorcycle's obviously not moving, the projectors transport him into some kind of Wolf-Shirt Americana paradise. It's roughly the same sort of imagery as in Easy Rider, but distorted. He's wearing designer versions of hippie clothes and rugged outdoorsman gear.

The editing intercuts Ye gliding though the air, him riding the bike alone, and him riding the bike with his wife, so there's this implication that the bike and even Kim are not entirely real either. But then, the entire song is about trying to settle down into an illusory 'normal life'. Ye talks about placating his girl with expensive vacations so she won't complain, and the Fight Club reference obviously evokes the idea of violence underneath a plastic everyday life. One of the last lines, after all these long-rear end verses, is "Jesus wept." - which is a direct quote of the shortest verse in the Bible, where Jesus reacts to the horrific reality of death. This is in the context of Ye telling his lover to got to sleep and forget the past. The next thing that happens in the Bible is Lazarus' resurrection.

The video is about how American culture is plastic bullshit, fueled with blood, but he's going to take it and make it his - turn it into a performance.

This is really basic like high-school level stuff.

What would Jeromey Romey Romey Rome think?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8iwJkZuzuE

t a s t e
Sep 6, 2010

:allears:

do this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ybic2cioU-M

Pirate Jet
May 2, 2010

40 lbs to freedom posted:

you saw his video for black skinhead too right? like, if he can release a PS1 rendering of himself dancing around and be like 'this. this is genius' then i dont doubt whatever else dumb he can do.

Early attempts at making realistic computer graphics look pretty creepy today! People on the internet love to point out and make fun of this fact, and sometimes use it sincerely for actual (intended, anyways) horror effect.

But when Kanye does it, it's BAD, because ???

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

SuperMechagodzilla posted:

This is really basic like high-school level stuff.

I was gonna say some poo poo and then realized it was SMG posting so QED

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


Wezlar posted:

What songs is Kendrick doing? I feel like he could put together at least a 10 song setlist with the proper ups and downs for a stadium show?


Money Trees
Backseat Freestyle
m.A.A.d. city (2nd verse)
The Art of Peer Pressure
(Intro only)
Fuckin' Problems
(A$AP Rocky cover)
Swimming Pools (Drank)
Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
(remix)
Poetic Justice
m.A.A.d city (1st verse)
Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst
Compton
Freestyle


DC was awesome... for the most part. I feel like in some songs, Kanye had SUPER high energy and was jumping around the stage, and was rapping with a ton of emotion and meaning... but he would do that for songs that didn't really need that. And then, when songs that actually had anger and energy in the lyrics, he would just sorta stand there emotionless.

He literally stood still and didn't move the entire time he did POWER, for God's sake!

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


There's been a lot of stuff said in here but the most ridiculous thing is still the dude who said the beat for Blood on the Leaves sucks.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Fix my live show and the levels...faawk daat

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011

alansmithee posted:

There's been a lot of stuff said in here but the most ridiculous thing is still the dude who said the beat for Blood on the Leaves sucks.

How about you actually give me a reason the horns in the song don't suck? All I've been getting is that they're just so obviously great and they make the crowd go wild. Well just because people mosh at a Family Values tour, that doesn't mean those lineups aren't comprised of bands riding some of the worst trends in rock. Those horns are monotonous as gently caress and completely flat-sounding. They're the most prominent element of a six-minute song and they sound like a moron's definition of avant-garde, taking something lovely and selling it as genius. You're really gonna sit here and tell me that anything made by Beats by the Pound is worth salvaging?

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


Scorched Spitz posted:

NO GOOD PUSSY

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


But for real I can't take anyone who sincerely says "worst trends in rock" serious.

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011
Okay, so you got nothing.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Never thought I'd have to quantify a dang horn sample but that specific kind of re-touched electronic instrument sample used as a lead and being pushed up front more than what we're used to (especially in relatively sparse compositions) is becoming identified with newer producers like Clams Casino, Lunice, gently caress Buttons sometimes etc. and is in fashion.

It's being used as a lead line in a kind of Big Boi - Sgt. Patton way and suggesting military melody a bit more subtly than that song. It has a very aggressive sounding tone and scale which fit in with that.

The sound itself has a real primal, menacing, almost stutter-gated sound when it gets loooow. That's what I really like about it. It's pretty dramatic and fits in well with the kind of abrasive sample sound going on in the whole album. There's a lot of low buzzing sounds going on and the horns touch on that.


There, happy?


Edit: There's some samples I raise an eyebrow at on this album but this ain't one of them.

Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Nov 22, 2013

Kid Gloves
Jul 31, 2013

by XyloJW
It's from this btw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie6CLe3g75g

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
That TNGHT EP is a big influence and I can understand people being turned off by that or yeezus' sound. It's pretty out there for how big it's getting.

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Never thought I'd have to quantify a dang horn sample but that specific kind of re-touched electronic instrument sample used as a lead and being pushed up front more than what we're used to (especially in relatively sparse compositions) is becoming identified with newer producers like Clams Casino, Lunice, gently caress Buttons sometimes etc. and is in fashion.

It's being used as a lead line in a kind of Big Boi - Sgt. Patton way and suggesting military melody a bit more subtly than that song. It has a very aggressive sounding tone and scale which fit in with that.

The sound itself has a real primal, menacing, almost stutter-gated sound when it gets loooow. That's what I really like about it. It's pretty dramatic and fits in well with the kind of abrasive sample sound going on in the whole album. There's a lot of low buzzing sounds going on and the horns touch on that.


There, happy?
Actually, yes. Thank you. I personally just don't like the sound of it and its role in the song. For some people, I can see how it can be abrasive but it doesn't come off that way to my ears.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

Pig poo poo horns, brass of a monkey penis.

Why is Blood on the Leaves such a sore spot for people, other than he sampled the one lynching song people have vaguely heard of.

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

Scorched Spitz posted:

Actually, yes. Thank you. I personally just don't like the sound of it and its role in the song. For some people, I can see how it can be abrasive but it doesn't come off that way to my ears.

Do these suck to you too?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no-ODRSXqck

edit: V Doesn't look like they made that one, but at least you're consistent in your terrible opinions.

snyprmag fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Nov 23, 2013

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011

Scorched Spitz posted:

You're really gonna sit here and tell me that anything made by Beats by the Pound is worth salvaging?

edit:

quote:

Doesn't look like they made that one, but at least you're consistent in your terrible opinions.


KLC was part of that crew at the time he produced that song, you moron.

Scorched Spitz fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Nov 23, 2013

snyprmag
Oct 9, 2005

OOPS!
Still, I'd rather misremember a producer than dismiss No Limit's legacy for no good reason.

Scorched Spitz
Dec 12, 2011
What legacy, a generation of kids convinced that turning your car into a fault line made for a good beat?

Scorched Spitz fucked around with this message at 00:40 on Nov 23, 2013

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

the analyses in this thread don't really resonate with me, but the album is loving good and smart and funny and vulnerable and I liked it a lot when it came out and I still like it a lot. It has changed the rap game in a big way, because it's not loving pastiche its just an emotional rear end album. Most of the people in the game and their fans are walking self-parodies at this point and Kanye has progressively become more and more original which is an achievement in and of itself. But then I consider the fact that Big Sean is on good music and I just don't know anymore.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Don't mind the album just hate the videos.

7 RING SHRIMP
Oct 3, 2012

mynameisjohn posted:

the analyses in this thread don't really resonate with me, but the album is loving good and smart and funny and vulnerable and I liked it a lot when it came out and I still like it a lot. It has changed the rap game in a big way, because it's not loving pastiche its just an emotional rear end album. Most of the people in the game and their fans are walking self-parodies at this point and Kanye has progressively become more and more original which is an achievement in and of itself. But then I consider the fact that Big Sean is on good music and I just don't know anymore.

How has Yeezus changed rap in a big way? It's been out since June..how has it even changed rap at all?

Most rappers are self parodies? Yeah okay dude. The genre is more diverse than it ever has been before, there's more experimenting with sounds and styles than ever before, I don't think you know what you're talking about.

I'm not convinced this isn't a fake post

WerthersWay
Jul 21, 2009

mynameisjohn posted:

the analyses in this thread don't really resonate with me, but the album is loving good and smart and funny and vulnerable and I liked it a lot when it came out and I still like it a lot. It has changed the rap game in a big way, because it's not loving pastiche its just an emotional rear end album. Most of the people in the game and their fans are walking self-parodies at this point and Kanye has progressively become more and more original which is an achievement in and of itself. But then I consider the fact that Big Sean is on good music and I just don't know anymore.

Yeezus has changed literally nothing in the rap game. It's great, but I don't hear a single song on the radio in the last 6 months that was influenced by Yeezus. Every Kanye album is emotional as gently caress, that's not significant.

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

it was a joke post, but I also like Yeezus

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
Rolling Stone was reviewing Eminem's latest and it made the observation that it comes along/firs in at a time when Hova & Kanye are both having mid-life/career crisis. The year of hip hop being Wilco. I felt it was appropriate as all of them really lacked for subject matter.

Dead Snoopy fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 23, 2013

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
Hahahahaha

300 = CCC = Calm Cool Collected

you know like the Romans!

or Ye doesnt know his history but that's white history and gently caress that white history we making black history (God I wish I had apologist fans)

Blast Fantasto
Sep 18, 2007

USAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Or, you know, it's possible "keep it 300, like the Romans. 300 bitches, where the Trojans" is a better rhyme than "keep it 300, like the Greeks. 300 bitches, cheese that squeeks" and he didn't give a poo poo about being historically correct since everyone knows what the gently caress he's talking about anyway.

Budget Prefuse
Sep 26, 2011

Sick Video Game Poster Scorched Spitz Doesn't "Get" Horns. Win Butler Responds.

HorseRenoir
Dec 25, 2011



Pillbug
Serious question, why are so many people (both fans and haters) weirdly overcomplicating the 300 line? Does it not occur to people that it isn't Kanye being stupid enough to get a popular movie reference blatantly wrong or an obscure slang thing, but just a throwaway line that Kanye thought was funny because it was wrong? It's really that simple and it baffles me that no one seems to think this.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

HorseRenoir posted:

Serious question, why are so many people (both fans and haters) weirdly overcomplicating the 300 line? Does it not occur to people that it isn't Kanye being stupid enough to get a popular movie reference blatantly wrong or an obscure slang thing, but just a throwaway line that Kanye thought was funny because it was wrong? It's really that simple and it baffles me that no one seems to think this.

White people overanalysize everything

Kid Gloves
Jul 31, 2013

by XyloJW
I always thought the "Colin Powells, Austin Powers" line was weirder

Wezlar
May 13, 2005



SgtScruffy posted:


Money Trees
Backseat Freestyle
m.A.A.d. city (2nd verse)
The Art of Peer Pressure
(Intro only)
Fuckin' Problems
(A$AP Rocky cover)
Swimming Pools (Drank)
Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
(remix)
Poetic Justice
m.A.A.d city (1st verse)
Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst
Compton
Freestyle


DC was awesome... for the most part. I feel like in some songs, Kanye had SUPER high energy and was jumping around the stage, and was rapping with a ton of emotion and meaning... but he would do that for songs that didn't really need that. And then, when songs that actually had anger and energy in the lyrics, he would just sorta stand there emotionless.

He literally stood still and didn't move the entire time he did POWER, for God's sake!

He should replace Sing for Me and m.A.A.d city 2nd verse with Michael Jordan and HiiiPower. I feel like that would be a better setlist. Or Collard Greens and HiiiPower. Or something like that.

Jam2
Jan 15, 2008

With Energy For Mayhem

HorseRenoir posted:

Serious question, why are so many people (both fans and haters) weirdly overcomplicating the 300 line? Does it not occur to people that it isn't Kanye being stupid enough to get a popular movie reference blatantly wrong or an obscure slang thing, but just a throwaway line that Kanye thought was funny because it was wrong? It's really that simple and it baffles me that no one seems to think this.

There exists a special breed of Kanye Apologist Stan.

It would be foolish to interpret his music as though he is all-knowing and perfectly clever. This is categorically false.

conventionalcat
Dec 17, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
I agree it was a throwaway line but we already got to the bottom of why that guy thinks Kanye is an idiot it's because the Blood on the Leaves beat sucks. We don't really need to discuss Black Skinhead anymore. FUckin kanye apologists

Edit: i want more on what the Bound 2 video means

conventionalcat fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Nov 24, 2013

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abraham linksys
Sep 6, 2010

:darksouls:
They're handing out ponchos at MSG :ohdear:

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