Literally Kermit posted:

In short, gently caress tropers.

The Leper Colon V posted:

I can't, I'm not a kawaii uguu anime rape.

Namtab posted:

Iirc Fast Eddie actually did that blanket removal of the word "rape" as a result of goon criticism, cause it was right before the gassing of the last pure troperthread.

The Google Incident posted:

FastEddie wrote a lot of code quickly

Literally Kermit posted:

Literally Kermit posted:

One can learn a lot from watching a lot of cooking shows. You can also learn a lot from reading cook books! And you can study and neatly label everything in your spice rack. The problem with troper mentality is they still manage to just loving wing it when it comes to dumping poo poo into the pot, and expect their poo poo stew to appeal to other people.

Zerilan posted:

This reminds me of the old woman admin on tvtropes (I forget the name) trying to state the value of the site using a cooking analogy, saying it was like eating a good meal and figuring out what the ingredients were to understand how it was made. As if knowing the ingredients were all that's needed, and not the actual cooking process.

Zerilan posted:

This reminds me of the old woman admin on tvtropes (I forget the name)

Literally Kermit posted:

Or the overall experience of the cook, or if the cook actually cares about what he's cooking and who he is cooking it for. Home-brewing beer is also another great analogy: everyone thinks it would be a Cool Job at first, but there's time, effort, and money involved (especially if you self-publish!). Rushing things ruins the final product.

Also you get assholes like me who would really like to homebrew beer and know a lot of things about it, but never seem to brew any actual beer.

Namtab posted:

I know far too much TVTrope history to be healthy.

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"The possibilities are endless"

But a Magic SYSTEM is when the impossibilities are defined and limited.

Instant kill a dragon must be a bigger spell than minotaur kill, which is a bigger spell than ant-kill.

1st year Hogwarts student is less mighty than a graduate of Unssen University.

Sacred dib-dobs give extra power to spells.

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I can't speak for Jaqen, but I'm not saying those systems aren't interesting, or aren't limited enough. I'm saying what makes them interesting, and what makes them 'systems' as opposed to, I don't know, trends or something, is the existence of limitations. A magic 'system' that doesn't rule anything out isn't really a system.

Not that that's always bad. Harry Potter magic is essentially unsystematized beyond specifics and most people are fine with that, although Eliezer Yudkowsky has a few comments to make.

But if your goal is the creation of an interesting magic system, the best question to ask is not 'what should I call my magic phlebotinum?' but 'what limitations will make my story interesting, and how can I work those limitations into a detailed and coherent picture?'

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I was more focused on having something of a novelty, because that was suggested as a good idea.

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Thanks Kesteven.

Novelty is all very well, it is sometimes useful, but more important is the Audience understanding what is going on. Why can't arry Potter kill Voldemort in book 1? Because Harry is a 1st year and Voldemort is a grsduate.

And yes, I am thinking of a table-top list of rules: n-th ;v; wizard + m-th sacred dib-dob can cast spells from this list. That is what to start with.

Audience must understand the Rules of Magic, why can't Hero defeat Villain in chapter !.

'heq' or 'cheq' is the Egyptian Hieroglyph for Magic.

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My fictional culture has a six-element philosophy, so I'm calling my "joker" "Heptessence", obviously.

Leofish posted:

Hept- means seven, so I hope the smile is a nod to the fact that the sixth element should have been "sexessence." It's hard to tell with tropers.

CultyMcult posted:

To determine weather accurately, listen for a faint rumbling sound that seems to be felt more than heard. If the sound is above you, there will be precipitation, if it feels below you there might be an earthquake

ACrazyPerson posted:

]Hinduism or Buddhism (I forgot whether both do, or which one) hold that the point of reincarnation is that the soul is trying to into it's ultimate self,
and that earth is a sort of "training ground" towards this aim. This is nonsene

ThirdEmperor posted:

Oh, and he also made an animu RPGMaker game to explain his crazy rear end beliefs and gave it a trope page because why not?

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Our hero, Ambrosia Brahmin.
The swordsman, Nevras Fitzembor.
The elf, Aqorm Flowless
The exorcist, Azrael Runesealer.
The dark wizard (an optional character), Yazim Jianne.
The demon, Lilith.
The angel, Michael. Sorry, the Archangel Michael.
Ambrosia's daughter, Tamashii Brahmin.

Thinky Whale posted:

You can't post that without the list of characters.

Finisher1 posted:

I haven't heard fictional names that stupid since the J-F Bibeau thread.

ThirdEmperor posted:

I don't know enough about this to know who believes in it, but they're wrong!

cptn_dr posted:

I wonder if Bubeau's on TVTropes...

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AstroTurf: Bibeau has demonstrated a tendency toward priming his readers with things to say about him and soliciting positive reviews for his Amazon page. Both are, hilariously, done in public view on his Facebook fanpage. He recently deleted a thread in which he begged for good reviews when an Amazon reviewer pointed out that he'd done it.

ThirdEmperor posted:

Oh, and he also made an animu RPGMaker game to explain his crazy rear end beliefs and gave it a trope page because why not?

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All Deaths Final: Subverted. There are "revival" spells, but certain deaths are not able to be remedied. There are graves, so understandably, old age is one of the constants. As are certain effects like disintegration or Cessation of Existence. Or diseases, judging from the cause of death in many gravestones. Also, there are a vast number of war-related casualties, so resurrection probably only works on bodies before decay has set in. This is possibly due to some sort of Resurrection Sickness (in the case of disease, causing them too be too weak, and die again) or Destination Host Unreachable (in the case of old age).

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All Myths Are True: Except when they're not.

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Author Appeal: There's obviously a fetish for crossdressing. It is possible to go through the game with three of the characters wearing women's clothes, and there are some side-references to it in some NPC lines. Not to mention the whole "angels are sexless" thing, where Michael is clearly wearing a skirt and appears to have breasts in his battlesets.

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Beating A Dead Player: [when an enemy attacks a KO'd character] Subverted with better coding, but certain effects still make this happen.

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Comedic Sociopathy: Ambrosia literally kills her counterpart in a rival party, because she says the wrong thing.
Ambrosia: You're a disgrace to women everywhere. Far from being competent, you're just decoration.
Momo: The one who is a disgrace is you. You've lost your feminine ways, and become a man. No wonder your party is so odd, with you as leader.
Ambrosia: Be right back, guys. I have a murder to perform.

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Creator Cameo: The author, Thomas Hooker, pops up in Hell at a weapons shop. Why? Because he's down in the dumps, thought about killing himself, and decided against it. He comments about how he's not even sure the game is all that great, after which Ambrosia snaps and tells him she'll kick his rear end if he doesn't cheer up. When he finally does cheer up, he dons a dress and walks off stage.

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Game-Favored Gender: In terms of item usage and magic, most of the females have more magic power and versatility. The game has an interesting workaround, though.

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Also averted No Periods, Period: Uses the Lina Inverse rule of magic loss during the menstrual cycle. This is a balance to the above advantage for females.

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Medium Blending: There is everything from animated scenes, to color pictures and photographs, to black-and-white sketches, to normal sprites, to sprites from other games that don't match the game's sprites at all.

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Moon Logic Puzzle: There is a complex puzzle which involves solving three puzzles to decode the fourth. All of them are in groups of three, and it seems logical that the answer is something to do with three. Nope, you are supposed to exit out of the multiple choice, and Mr. Exposition then explains that the answer is in fact Death. Why? Because the question as given was:
Answer this fourth and final question. What do these other questions have in common?

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Ambrosia: ...if you can't treat those around you with love and decency, soon or later you'll fall to it.
Estheriel: But wait, that doesn't make any sense, did not I use this plan to try to make a world without pain? How then is it that I could be defeated by The Power of Love?
Ambrosia: It's best not to think of such things... (Beat) Remember, it was The Power of Love that undid you!

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One of the monster's names is One Eyed Snake. Guess what happens to you when you lose a battle to it? You get raped.

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Much of the game is humor based on ShoutOuts to other concepts. For instance, Nevras looks a bit like a Cloud Expy. Guess how he plans to sneak into Delphi's all-female temple? [in reference to the FF7 crossdressing segment]

For that matter, it turned out not to even be necessary.

Delphi: No need to disguise yourselves, I know there are men among you.
Ambrosia: Then why the elaborate attempt to keep men out?
Delphi: Because men in drag are hot!

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• Wear your hair long to minimize gender distinction ; you may also remove any hair not shared by the other gender

• Wield blunt weapons to minimize the slaughter done in the name of your faith

HammerofCults posted:

The name of this lesson comes from similar writings called the Hammer of Witches. Having been in a cult by accident, the author feels this is at least as grave as witchcraft

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Club Stub: This "religion" has a total of one known member (the author), so any new member is this.

Darth Walrus posted:

You guys missed the saddest (and most obvious) bit of that cult page:

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The result is possibly the first religion created wholly on Powerpoint

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The result is possibly the first religion created wholly on Powerpoint

crowfeathers posted:

Well, I was going to play a bit of that RPG so I could share it with you guys, but it crashes with a "Script references map that does not exist" error before the main menu appears. You can't actually make pointers in RPG Maker 2000 without a map already there to point to, so that means that he physically deleted a map file, for no reason, after making his game. And therefore it is unplayable.

"" posted:

I can't speak for Jaqen, but I'm not saying those systems aren't interesting, or aren't limited enough. I'm saying what makes them interesting, and what makes them 'systems' as opposed to, I don't know, trends or something, is the existence of limitations. A magic 'system' that doesn't rule anything out isn't really a system.

Not that that's always bad. Harry Potter magic is essentially unsystematized beyond specifics and most people are fine with that, although Eliezer Yudkowsky has a few comments to make.

But if your goal is the creation of an interesting magic system, the best question to ask is not 'what should I call my magic phlebotinum?' but 'what limitations will make my story interesting, and how can I work those limitations into a detailed and coherent picture?'

Leofish posted:

This isn't actually that bad of a post, despite the link that Harry Potter fanfic where Harry is a jackass. This user, Kesteven, thinks a good idea for a story is one that makes the story interesting. Good job troper! You are now marked for banishment from TVTropes. Sorry.

MrAristocrates posted:

I'm pretty sure the music from just before the video cuts off is blatantly stolen from Kingdom Hearts.

e: found it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nlCNVewMjA

crowfeathers posted:

That's not the only thing stolen. I'd like to introduce you to the representation of God in the game.





Yes.

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-The archangel Michael. He joins Ambrosia's party after her answer to one of his questions intrigues him. As an angel, he appears more female than male (angels are sexually ambiguous in most legends), and has a personality to match.

crowfeathers posted:

I fixed it. Please watch this amazing intro scene all the way through because I can't explain in words how badly he coded this loving game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxEIdnGDV4k

WickedHate posted:

Well, it did say "sprites from other games that don't match the game's sprites at all". Intentional badness or just plain badness?

It's both.

crowfeathers posted:

I fixed it. Please watch this amazing intro scene all the way through because I can't explain in words how badly he coded this loving game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxEIdnGDV4k