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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I've decided I like tech powers and combos, moreso than Space Magic or :geno:guns. So I'm gonna try Engineer. Should I be focusing on the two drones, the attack powers, or a mix of the two?

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Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

A large amount of the many hours I put into Mass Effect 1 involved riding around in the Mako, trying to see if I could put it on its back (I couldn't), and I don't regret a single moment of it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
Driving around in the Mako for hours was made ME1's galaxy seem absolutely MASSIVE.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

You could also blast the more powerful enemies with the Mako's cannon till they were almost dead, then jump out and finish them off with your own weapons and get more experience because you killed such a powerful thing "singlehanded".

I personally fought and killed many a Thresher Maw that way :black101:

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
gently caress yeah, nothing makes you feel more like a badass than jumping out of the Mako and blasting that last sliver of health off a Thresher Maw before it can go underground again. I also replayed geth ambushes so many times so I could do the same thing with four or five Geth Armatures that were all attacking me simultaneously.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Jerusalem posted:

You could also blast the more powerful enemies with the Mako's cannon till they were almost dead, then jump out and finish them off with your own weapons and get more experience because you killed such a powerful thing "singlehanded".

I personally fought and killed many a Thresher Maw that way :black101:
I liked completely cheesing them as an Adept-Bastion by Stasis-killing them.

Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003
So, finished ME3 again.

Spoilers I guess since there's some first timers around:


Tuchanka was as amazing as I remember. Fist pumped at Kalros killing the reaper so hard I almost threw my back out.
Also fantastic was the Quarian homeworld mission. Shepard hopping out of the shuttle to target the reaper, so badass.

Leviathan was okay DLC, the underwater section was neat. Omega was meh.

I was full Paragon and dug it, I also took Synthesis ending again. Once you rule out destroy because of EDI and the Geth, it's a pretty easy choice. I was planning to do destroy but just didn't want to.

I like the extra stuff they tacked on for the "extended cut", it was pretty much exactly what I thought with the reapers helping to rebuild and now having access to all the past civilizations. The only bummer is Shepard being dissolved to make it happen.

To me the entire series peaks at the last rush to the beam, Shepard getting cooked by Harbinger and plowing forward with a pistol IS the whole character to me, everything else is whatever, but that moment? loving perfect.

It got sloggy at bits, and the Citadel DLC is basically a joke, but this may still be my favorite series of all time.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Loving Life Partner posted:

It got sloggy at bits, and the Citadel DLC is basically a joke, but this may still be my favorite series of all time.[/spoiler]

The only joke here is that your entire spoiler block wasn't about every single moment in Citadel :colbert:

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

Kibayasu posted:

The only joke here is that your entire spoiler block wasn't about every single moment in Citadel :colbert:

This man has a point. Several, in fact.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

Ciaphas posted:

I've decided I like tech powers and combos, moreso than Space Magic or :geno:guns. So I'm gonna try Engineer. Should I be focusing on the two drones, the attack powers, or a mix of the two?

I've only tried Engineer in Mass Effect 3's online play so I don't know how different it is on Me1 or 2, but I really like the rocket drone. It fucks people up and you can spam the hell out of it. Incinerate is always good too, of course. In me2 in particular it would be invaluable for you especially if you play on insane as enemies on that often have armor.

For 3 I focused on the rocket drone + incinerate. But that's for online play. I guess you can also get a sentry turret, but I haven't unlocked Quarian engineer yet so I don't know how valuable that turret is. I like the drone a lot though. It's not only a great distraction when you upgrade it, it also does nice damage.

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

2house2fly posted:

gently caress yeah, nothing makes you feel more like a badass than jumping out of the Mako and blasting that last sliver of health off a Thresher Maw before it can go underground again. I also replayed geth ambushes so many times so I could do the same thing with four or five Geth Armatures that were all attacking me simultaneously.

The best part is that top-end gear out-damages the Mako anyway, and Thresher Maws don't go underground at all when you're circle-strafing them on foot.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe
My favorite Mako thing to do is on the mission to recruit Liara take it all the way to the entrance of the mines. It makes that boss fight just outside the mines trivial.

I don't think you're actually supposed to be able to bring the Mako all the way there as there's some huge rocks and a very narrow entrance a bit before you get to that geth boss fight and the cut scene that plays before you start fighting the geth has you and your two party members walking forward on foot. It's very hard to get the mako through and to that area, but if you move it carefully enough you can squeeze it through.

Striking Yak
Dec 31, 2012
My favourite part of the Citadel DLC was Grunt. He stopped to get noodles. :allears:

Even though I just finished it earlier this week, I still did the non-extended ending first. I thought the extended cut made the Synthesis/Control endings a lot more palatable, since they were explained more clearly/thoroughly, and I actually did consider taking them instead of Destroy. But what am I meant to take from the Stargazer scene? He talks about going to the stars as if it's some lofty goal. Does that mean the Catalyst was right, and the cycle continued?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

Striking Yak posted:

My favourite part of the Citadel DLC was Grunt. He stopped to get noodles. :allears:

Even though I just finished it earlier this week, I still did the non-extended ending first. I thought the extended cut made the Synthesis/Control endings a lot more palatable, since they were explained more clearly/thoroughly, and I actually did consider taking them instead of Destroy. But what am I meant to take from the Stargazer scene? He talks about going to the stars as if it's some lofty goal. Does that mean the Catalyst was right, and the cycle continued?

I understood that scene to be the average person's view of the "myth" surrounding the history of what you did sometime later in the far future.

I feel weird, I chose Control my first time cause I felt paragon Shepard would be a decent lord of the galaxy (but really cause the Geth are my bros :3:)

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule
Here's a report from a guy who supposedly attended a Mass Effect 4 presentation, with news on new races and when it'll be set:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Next-Mass-Effect-Acts-as-Sequel-to-Main-Trilogy-New-Races-Get-Details-Report-403068.shtml

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

Lightning Knight posted:

I understood that scene to be the average person's view of the "myth" surrounding the history of what you did sometime later in the far future.

I thought it was just really, really amateur writing.

Also what kind of hosed up granpa does that kid have, telling him all these horrific stories of death and war and sex and poo poo.

'And then Shepherd treated all of his soldiers like poo poo, and purposefully did his best to make sure all of them died on their final mission. Then he committed triple genocide on the Quarians, Geth, and the Krogan. Then this weird space alien child came out of no-where and tried to make him choose his favourite colour, and when he refused the game developers told him he was a big dumb meany and everything he built up for over three games was destroyed and everyone died. The end.'

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

PootieTang posted:

I thought it was just really, really amateur writing.

Also what kind of hosed up granpa does that kid have, telling him all these horrific stories of death and war and sex and poo poo.

'And then Shepherd treated all of his soldiers like poo poo, and purposefully did his best to make sure all of them died on their final mission. Then he committed triple genocide on the Quarians, Geth, and the Krogan. Then this weird space alien child came out of no-where and tried to make him choose his favourite colour, and when he refused the game developers told him he was a big dumb meany and everything he built up for over three games was destroyed and everyone died. The end.'

You'd think that the grandpa wasn't going into minute historical detail. But yeah, it was kind of dumb. I agree with the idea that ME3 needed maybe a year more of development time and/or a ton more buckling down by Bioware to fix all of its problems. Here's hoping DA3 fares better.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
"Please Grandpa, just one more story."

"OK, well, how about the story of when the Shepard actually found out the truth behind the Reapers, uh, it took place during the rest of the story but I didn't mention it. Ten bucks."

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

2house2fly posted:

"Please Grandpa, just one more story."

"OK, well, how about the story of when the Shepard actually found out the truth behind the Reapers, uh, it took place during the rest of the story but I didn't mention it. Ten bucks."

In fact now it's kind of genius. Mass Effect 1 is when he's desperately trying to get the kid to fall asleep, so large sections of it are just 'And then they drove... And kept driving... And driving... And driving...' and the kid just won't fall the gently caress to sleep so eventually he ends up building this massive universe and story, realizes he has no idea how to end it and then it just like 'and then some kid came out or something... And let Shepherd use the crucible's magic to destroy all the reapers... the end'

Maybe the ending to ME3 was genius after all, and the reveal of the grandpa and kid is a shyamalan level twist.

Pattonesque
Jul 15, 2004
johnny jesus and the infield fly rule

2house2fly posted:

"Please Grandpa, just one more story."

"OK, well, how about the story of when the Shepard actually found out the truth behind the Reapers, uh, it took place during the rest of the story but I didn't mention it. Ten bucks."

"And then the Shepard banged the emotionally-damaged convict in the basement of his magic ship, for he had been long in space without some strange."

Rick_Hunter
Jan 5, 2004

My guys are still fighting the hard fight!
(weapons, shields and drones are still online!)
I'm pretty sure we're not playing a bed time story guys. The Stargazer was just telling him the legend of how they came to be.

Buzz Aldrin can be a brutal man (Punches) but he's not gonna tell his grandkid the time that Shepard banged a blue skinned nether scientist. Repeatedly.

Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100

Rick_Hunter posted:

I'm pretty sure we're not playing a bed time story guys. The Stargazer was just telling him the legend of how they came to be.

Buzz Aldrin can be a brutal man (Punches) but he's not gonna tell his grandkid the time that Shepard banged a blue skinned nether scientist. Repeatedly.

I don't know, I wouldn't put it past that fiery old coot to not censor himself on anything for anyone.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
Please everyone stop making jokes about a videogame

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

Rick_Hunter posted:

I'm pretty sure we're not playing a bed time story guys. The Stargazer was just telling him the legend of how they came to be.

Buzz Aldrin can be a brutal man (Punches) but he's not gonna tell his grandkid the time that Shepard banged a blue skinned nether scientist. Repeatedly.

That clip should have the renegade interrupt icon in it.

And honestly that's not brutal, dude walks up to someone he doesn't know in public, starts calling them a liar, a coward, and a thief then he needs to be ready to get socked in the face. Especially an old dude, old dudes have been around the block and won't take any of your loving poo poo. I mean he's calling Buzz a hypocrite, saying he's a coward while he rants and raves and insults the guy, thinking he's safe because he's in public/on camera, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Now that I think about it, maybe this was the inspiration for the renegade interrupt where you punch that reporter in the face.

Loving Life Partner
Apr 17, 2003
It took every ounce of control not to punch the reporter 3 times over my replay of the series.

You can actually finish it up and make kinda nice by ME3.

It's also hilarious how long you get for some interrupts, like on Tuchanka in ME2 where one of the Weyroc Krogan who has the females and Maelon trying to cure the genophages is rambling about how they're going to dominate the galaxy again and how everyone sucks, it gives you like 3 chances at the interrupt and it lingers so long, basically begging you to fire the gun into their little set piece, haha.

Cleatcleat
Mar 27, 2010
"And so Shepard saw the Reaper, "I see you. I see what you're doing. Return to the night. You have no business here. I own you! I walked on your face!" The Reaper feeling like an idiot decided to leave our planet."

That's how I like to imagine his story really went. Buzz always kept the truth to himself, Shepard was a huge slut that slept his way through the ship and then left all his friends to die in various places.

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

Loving Life Partner posted:

It took every ounce of control not to punch the reporter 3 times over my replay of the series.

You can actually finish it up and make kinda nice by ME3.

Punching is fun but I think my favorite way to deal with her is in ME2 when you can turn the game around and pull the cliche "What, do you want to insult ARE BRAVE TROOPS and their noble sacrifices??" card. It's one of the most :smug: moments in the entire series.

EDIT: \/\/\/ Ahahaha I have no idea how I missed that but I hadn't even seen this until just now. The look on the reporter's face is incredible.

Burning Mustache fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Nov 25, 2013

PootieTang
Aug 2, 2011

by XyloJW

Burning Mustache posted:

Punching is fun but I think my favorite way to deal with her is in ME2 when you can turn the game around and pull the cliche "What, do you want to insult ARE BRAVE TROOPS and their noble sacrifices??" card. It's one of the most :smug: moments in the entire series.

There should have been a "The council doesn't care about humans :colbert: " option.

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

quote:

"The second new race was described as "Ancient, Advanced, and Guardian". They had a similar color scheme to reapers and they looked like classic fantasy/sci-fi golems. Sleek rocky or metallic bodies with bright glowing lines flowing all over them. Some had fragmented pieces and shattered bits floating in place around them."

1. It sure was nice of these guys to sit out of the Reaper War.

2. Another ancient, advanced Reaper-esque species. Game's gonna be poo poo.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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"The game will be poo poo because of the plot hole I literally just invented in my brain right now. gently caress Bioware."

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

If it's the same basic setting but totally ignores everything to do with Reapers, continuity be damned, in order to keep adding more aliens and stuff, I would be okay with that.

Sankara
Jul 18, 2008


Mass Effect 4's opening cinematic is the Synthesis ending playing, the frame sloooowly pulling back to reveal it's being played on a movie screen. Cut to Shepard and friends looking confused. "Well, that got weird." quips Joker. Everyone leaves the screening of THE FIRST HUMAN SPECTRE and now the real ME2 begins. :downs:

Milkfred E. Moore
Aug 27, 2006

'It's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.'

Fojar38 posted:

"The game will be poo poo because of the plot hole I literally just invented in my brain right now. gently caress Bioware."

Buddy, if you can't see the problems of describing a race with those three adjectives who were also absent from the literal apocalypse then, welp, almost any of those adjectives lose their meaning. They're either not ancient (since the Reapers would've culled them), not advanced (because the Reapers cull intelligent, advanced life) or lovely guardians (who sat out of the Reaper apocalypse).

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Bongo Bill posted:

If it's the same basic setting but totally ignores everything to do with Reapers, continuity be damned, in order to keep adding more aliens and stuff, I would be okay with that.
If it's post-ME3, the Reaper problem has been solved, one way or another :v:

Burning Mustache
Sep 4, 2006

Zaeed got stories.
Kasumi got loot.
All I got was a hole in my suit.

Milky Moor posted:

Buddy, if you can't see the problems of describing a race with those three adjectives who were also absent from the literal apocalypse then, welp, almost any of those adjectives lose their meaning. They're either not ancient (since the Reapers would've culled them), not advanced (because the Reapers cull intelligent, advanced life) or lovely guardians (who sat out of the Reaper apocalypse).

Dude I'm as pessimistic and skeptic about any future Mass Effect stuff as it gets but we're talking about some impressions of a single dude who saw some early concept art of a game which, according to his own observations, its developers might not have even settled on whether it's going to be a prequel, a sequel, or something else entirely.

It is completely pointless to speculate about this, much less extrapolate how lovely this game's story will be based on that kind of information.

Besides, they're welcome to tear open as many plot holes as they want if that enables them to solve the mess that is (post) ME3 that way and get the series back on track again in my book.


Doctor Reynolds posted:

Mass Effect 4's opening cinematic is the Synthesis ending playing, the frame sloooowly pulling back to reveal it's being played on a movie screen. Cut to Shepard and friends looking confused. "Well, that got weird." quips Joker. Everyone leaves the screening of THE FIRST HUMAN SPECTRE and now the real ME2 begins. :downs:

:shepface::fh:

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon

Milky Moor posted:

Buddy, if you can't see the problems of describing a race with those three adjectives who were also absent from the literal apocalypse then, welp, almost any of those adjectives lose their meaning. They're either not ancient (since the Reapers would've culled them), not advanced (because the Reapers cull intelligent, advanced life) or lovely guardians (who sat out of the Reaper apocalypse).

Maybe they're from another galaxy or a sector which hasn't opened a mass relay yet. Maybe they only guard their poo poo and don't feel concerned by the reapers.

TomWaitsForNoMan
May 28, 2003

By Any Means Necessary
I don't doubt Bioware's ability to gently caress up, but do we have any evidence that this is true aside from one months-old blog post?

Fifty Three
Oct 29, 2007

Doctor Reynolds posted:

Mass Effect 4's opening cinematic is the Synthesis ending playing, the frame sloooowly pulling back to reveal it's being played on a movie screen. Cut to Shepard and friends looking confused. "Well, that got weird." quips Joker. Everyone leaves the screening of THE FIRST HUMAN SPECTRE and now the real ME2 begins. :downs:
100% down. Make it happen, BioWare. I will pay all of the moneys.

Tumblr of scotch
Mar 13, 2006

Please, don't be my neighbor.
So how often does the DLC for this go on sale, either individually or in bundle-packs? I still don't have any of the for-pay ones because I'm a cheapskate, and I suspect (since this is EA we're talking about) the answer is "basically never."

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Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Flagrant Abuse posted:

So how often does the DLC for this go on sale, either individually or in bundle-packs? I still don't have any of the for-pay ones because I'm a cheapskate, and I suspect (since this is EA we're talking about) the answer is "basically never."

I think the DLC for ME2 went on sale once, for the 360.

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