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Cloche posted:It's silly, but my biggest hope for P5 is that you can choose a female protagonist, even if it doesn't change anything besides a few pronouns or whatever. I really liked that aspect of P3P, it's nice to feel represented. I hope so too, just for the sake of seeing the game from a couple of angles like P3P did with that narrative. I'd also like to see P4 get the same treatment, but I understand it'd be harder since Yu is less of a cipher than Minato/Minako are. But they could build P5 from the ground up for both experiences. All they have to do is be as good as Bioware. SUCH GREAT HEIGHTS.
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It would also really mess with the character dynamics because unlike in P3, P4's characters are pretty good friends.
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Cloche posted:It's silly, but my biggest hope for P5 is that you can choose a female protagonist, even if it doesn't change anything besides a few pronouns or whatever. I really liked that aspect of P3P, it's nice to feel represented. This might sound stupid but I'm personally hoping for either character(s) of color or LGBT character(s) with romance options for both. I was a tad offended that they'd include hints towards Kanji's sexuality and not make him a romance option. I mean the cast doesn't have to be a diversity parade or anything but something other than the typical white-bread characters prevalent in JRPGs would be nice and if any series is good with delivering likable characters, its this one. Captain Mog fucked around with this message at 19:38 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Nov 26, 2013 19:27
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I feel kind of bad that rather than an inclusive cast like you guys apparently want, that I just want to see a cast that makes Persona 3 having a dog and robot look normal by comparison.
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Nov 26, 2013 19:52
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NutritiousSnack posted:Instead of a HEAT METER he gets GET BENT There's a sidequest to renovate EVERY drat SHOP IN THE AREA!
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Nov 26, 2013 19:56
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I really hope that they just let you be friends with the romance interests without making it seem like you're being a dickhead heartbreaker.
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Captain Mog posted:This might sound stupid but I'm personally hoping for either character(s) of color or LGBT character(s) with romance options for both. I was a tad offended that they'd include hints towards Kanji's sexuality and not make him a romance option. I mean the cast doesn't have to be a diversity parade or anything but something other than the typical white-bread characters prevalent in JRPGs would be nice and if any series is good with delivering likable characters, its this one. ....Japanese people are white now?
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Cloche posted:It's silly, but my biggest hope for P5 is that you can choose a female protagonist, even if it doesn't change anything besides a few pronouns or whatever. I really liked that aspect of P3P, it's nice to feel represented. It's been two mainline games since the last one with a female MC. So I wouldn't be surprised if they did it again.
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MarsDragon posted:....Japanese people are white now? Pretty sure they just meant it as the characters are fairly standard. Honestly though you could probably expect to maybe see a lesbian romance if they add a female protag option but probably not a gay one. The Japanese Otaku market is usually very homophobic. e: The fact that there was a huge outcry in Japan over the gay stuff in Persona 2 basically shows what I mean. Ibram Gaunt fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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Nov 26, 2013 20:09
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Ibram Gaunt posted:e: The fact that there was a huge outcry in Japan over the gay stuff in Persona 2 basically shows what I mean. What happened?
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Nov 26, 2013 20:15
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Dr Pepper posted:What happened? Tatsuya and Jun happened.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:I really hope that they just let you be friends with the romance interests without making it seem like you're being a dickhead heartbreaker. I thought I was being friendly and supportive in P4 when I gave Rise a hug, but lo and behold, I'm just scumming for a romance with the flirty one by showing her empathy at the potential death of her idol career she cares deeply about. At least with Naoto you were given more overt options that you wanted a different kind of relationship, but I don't want the path of being the nice guy turning into the harem run.
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Tatsuya and Jun happened. Well I meant more about details about the outcry, not the events in the game.
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Dr Pepper posted:Well I meant more about details about the outcry, not the events in the game. Specifically there was just a ton of feeling betrayed etc, typical dumbass gamer stuff. There was an interview floating around where the lead guy talked about it. I don't have a link on hand though.
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Crabtree posted:I thought I was being friendly and supportive in P4 when I gave Rise a hug, but lo and behold, I'm just scumming for a romance with the flirty one by showing her empathy at the potential death of her idol career she cares deeply about. At least with Naoto you were given more overt options that you wanted a different kind of relationship, but I don't want the path of being the nice guy turning into the harem run. Seriously, I think I've just been burned too much by Bioware's output of late when it comes to in-game relationships. Can't I just listen to your problems and be a supportive friend without any undertones of wanting to get in your pants? I'd be entirely happy if they just left the romance by the wayside and just let me be ultra-buddies with everyone.
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The Rise one is the only one I really felt like they were pushing for you to hop in her pants. Naoto you have to explicitly make clear you want to hook up with. Both Chie and Yukiko it's more or less just presented as an option for you to take if you feel like it.
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Ibram Gaunt posted:Honestly though you could probably expect to maybe see a lesbian romance if they add a female protag option but probably not a gay one. The Japanese Otaku market is usually very homophobic. There was the scene with Aigis in P3P that had the same romantic undertones with the female MC as the male MC.
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Nov 26, 2013 22:11
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Strange Quark posted:There was the scene with Aigis in P3P that had the same romantic undertones with the female MC as the male MC. Same with Elizabeth.
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Speaking of P3P, what are the main differences between it and FES, aside from being able to actually control your party, Minako/FeMC existing, and no The Answer? I'm planning on finally getting a copy of it and want to know what to expect.
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Nov 26, 2013 22:20
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FeMC gets social links with male members of the party so it fleshes out their personalities more.
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Nov 26, 2013 22:22
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The FeMC gets to date Ken, which we can all agree is exactly what Persona 3 needed.
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FeMC gets a social link with Ryoji, where you have to spend every possible event that comes up with him if you want to see all of the link.
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FeMC gets Shinjiro as an S-Link and it's pretty much the best one she can get, it also changes the ending slightly.
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Aside from the Ken and Ryoji links (blech - but Ken's not bad if you shut down his crush like a normal person) I found all the new ones to be a huge improvement. I don't think I could even bring myself to replay the basegame and all the unpleasantness involved there after playing P3P. edit: wait no I remember the original Hermit link. that one was pretty alright, haha.
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Tin Soldier posted:Same with Elizabeth. Could Elizabeth's go that way? The YouTube video I saw of those scenes with the female protagonist ended with them calling each other "friends". It didn't have the implied sex that I remembered from FES or had with Theo.
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Saigyouji posted:Speaking of P3P, what are the main differences between it and FES, aside from being able to actually control your party, Minako/FeMC existing, and no The Answer? I'm planning on finally getting a copy of it and want to know what to expect.
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It's also worth mentioning that you don't manually move around the map when outside of Tartarus. Instead, you use move a cursor around. All the cutscenes are in a visual novel-esque "portraits, backgrounds, dialog boxes and nothing else" style, and there are no anime scenes.
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jonjonaug posted:Could Elizabeth's go that way? The YouTube video I saw of those scenes with the female protagonist ended with them calling each other "friends". It didn't have the implied sex that I remembered from FES or had with Theo. If you choose the ...... option it's pretty heavily implied.
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jonjonaug posted:Could Elizabeth's go that way? The YouTube video I saw of those scenes with the female protagonist ended with them calling each other "friends". It didn't have the implied sex that I remembered from FES or had with Theo. I had to dig this up from Feinne's LP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0HvUEgdSl0 http://lparchive.org/Persona-3-Portable/Update%20182/
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Dehry posted:I had to dig this up from Feinne's LP Oh wow, forgot all about that.
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Have any of the creators ever commented on sex in the Persona games? A lot of people claim it's heavily implied, but I think it remains very much open to interpretation. Not saying there's anything incorrect with any given personal interpretation.
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Well, what the heck do you think they're doing in that 'long time spent together?' In the MC's bedroom? That the game felt the need to go to black on? That the girls all feel very nervous about? And what about Shinji's lines about not being able to hold himself back in P3P? And don't they do the exact same thing with the exact same phrasing in the P4 Devil S. Link, if you say you're down to gently caress?
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Endorph posted:Well, what the heck do you think they're doing in that 'long time spent together?' In the MC's bedroom? That the game felt the need to go to black on? That the girls all feel very nervous about? And what about Shinji's lines about not being able to hold himself back in P3P? Spent time alone with them.
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Policenaut posted:And while we're here, why not some Dancing All Night info too. If Mass Destruction is not in P4D, I will be so mad.
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Persona 4 Golden is  again on PSN.E:Apparently in stores over the weekend as well. I guess you can spend a long time alone with that. Dehry fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Nov 26, 2013 |
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quote:Shinjiro: You get it, right? Go back to your room. You're not gonna get another chance... Unless they were involved in a very dramatic game of scrabble, I think the implications are clear.
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Policenaut posted:And while we're here, why not some Dancing All Night info too. The only way they'll get me to buy Dancing All Night is if Change Your Way is in the game.  "You can go where you want to go... be who you want to be...~"
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Endorph posted:Unless they were involved in a very dramatic game of scrabble, I think the implications are clear. I hadn't seen that bit before. Shinjiro sure is a romantic.
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Hellioning posted:If Mass Destruction is not in P4D, I will be so mad. Seconding this only because I would really like to know what they're saying other than BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY BABY. If the Dingo team can pick a better font for their subtitles, that'd be nice too.
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I think it's a deliberate choice on Atlus' part to leave it ambiguous enough that you could interpret it as either sex or just making out, whichever you'd rather it be. That way they can attract that lucrative otaku creeper money without putting off the wider JRPG market. 
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