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Chichevache posted:It could definitely be more creative, but I think a key pillar of country music is being tragic and not comic. Is it still country if it is funny? Yup http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKypDHC3TLQ
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Chichevache posted:It could definitely be more creative, but I think a key pillar of country music is being tragic and not comic. Is it still country if it is funny? Sure, even in old school country. Boy Named Sue, You Never Even Called Me by My Name, etc.
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Chichevache posted:That's the problem for me. It seems like the people against taunting don't have an argument besides "we don't like it", while those of us who support it can only say "we do like it". You might as well argue about what type of music is the worst, because it is dumb and subjective. The problem though is that we are not debating two positive arguments. Allowing taunting is a natural state. Banning taunting is an enforced state. There has to be an argument for why banning taunting is a good idea because the end result of doing nothing is the allowance of taunting. PHILOSOPHY EDIT: Also you idiots need to quit responding to Chiv's joke like he was serious
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Mel Mudkiper posted:The problem though is that we are not debating two positive arguments. quote:EDIT: Also you idiots need to quit responding to Chiv's joke like he was serious You hate fun or something? 
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Country and western, serious business. 
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Eh, if you allow unrestricted taunting, you risk the game getting out of control and fights breaking out. Also, taunting's much cooler when it's actually breaking a rule. Taunt and take your 15-yard penalty like a man. The penalty's basically meaningless anyway if you taunt while scoring a touchdown. The fines and idiotic media moralizing are another story, though  .
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Mel Mudkiper posted:There has to be an argument for why banning taunting is a good idea because the end result of doing nothing is the allowance of taunting. If you allow guys that are aggressive and seem to have pretty poor impulse control to overly berate each other, someone's going to get neck punched on the field. It's easier to just make it against the rules than to constantly pull guys off of each other. Somehow making it against the rules does seem to mitigate a lot of the shoving and worse that would be happening. Can you imagine how much time would be wasted in Steelers-Ravens games if you allowed taunting then had to stop all the fights? Look how often they have to break guys up now!
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Sash! posted:If you allow guys that are aggressive and seem to have pretty poor impulse control to overly berate each other, someone's going to get neck punched on the field. It's easier to just make it against the rules than to constantly pull guys off of each other. Somehow making it against the rules does seem to mitigate a lot of the shoving and worse that would be happening. I feel like you're going to have to provide some evidence that the amount of fights would increase. These players are already fighting during games as it is.
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Chichevache posted:I feel like you're going to have to provide some evidence that the amount of fights would increase. These players are already fighting during games as it is. Players always try to get away with as much as the referee will let them. The 2010 World Cup Final happened because the referee was too lax. If players are fighting during games, legalizing taunting would most definitely increase the amount of fighting. They're already trash-talking and getting into each other's heads--the difference with taunting is that it's in front of all the spectators and it's easier to go over the edge when you're embarrassed. The rules are fine as they are.
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Players always try to get away with as much as the referee will let them. The 2010 World Cup Final happened because the referee was too lax. If players are fighting during games, legalizing taunting would most definitely increase the amount of fighting. I don't see why this should result in punishments for taunting. It seems that the penalties for fighting aren't harsh enough and the referees are not doing a good enough job enforcing them (Personal fouls offset, nothing changes.) It seems to me the correct thing to do is crack down on fighting and eject players when they do it, so that there is actually an incentive to not do something that is dangerous, as opposed to banning taunting which harms no one while fights still happen.
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Cruel and Unusual posted:Eh, if you allow unrestricted taunting, you risk the game getting out of control and fights breaking out. Also, taunting's much cooler when it's actually breaking a rule. Taunt and take your 15-yard penalty like a man. The penalty's basically meaningless anyway if you taunt while scoring a touchdown. e: poo poo I'm sorry this stupid discussion has been in two different threads and they've blurred together. Here: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577364&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=18#post421108963 The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 03:33 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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I thought this discussion started during the game on Monday night  . I'm just talking about the current rules. The NFL is stupid for considering that rule change. Touchdown celebrations rock, also.
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Chichevache posted:I feel like you're going to have to provide some evidence that the amount of fights would increase. These players are already fighting during games as it is. T.O. got hit after showing off on the star in Dallas. Von Miller got super pissed when the Tom Brady punted against them in the playoffs a few years ago and started a fight after the play. That wasn't a strict case of taunting, but it is easy to imagine how the Broncos, who were being stomped at the time, interpreted it as showboating or rubbing it in. If Tom Brady had literally taunted the Broncos during or after the play the results would have been worse. Athletes in general don't tend to be the most calm and stoic people in the world, and a lot of people in life don't appreciate being taunted. I see a difference between touchdown celebrations ("I did something good") and taunting ("You suck"), and I'd appreciate the restrictions against endzone celebrations being eased. But I have no issue with taunting penalties for the very reason that they prevent a possible escalation with no negative repercussions (unless you think "  I can't rub it in their faces my success is invalidated" is a reasonable sentiment worth protecting).Taunting isn't acceptable in most areas of life, I don't see why sports should be the exception. I mean, it's not like Golden Tate personally offended me and I can't enjoy football anymore. But if there were no restrictions on taunting, there is a good possibility it would degrade the quality of play and there are no real benefits to allowing it.
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Disillusionist posted:T.O. got hit after showing off on the star in Dallas. Von Miller got super pissed when the Tom Brady punted against them in the playoffs a few years ago and started a fight after the play. That wasn't a strict case of taunting, but it is easy to imagine how the Broncos, who were being stomped at the time, interpreted it as showboating or rubbing it in. Disillusionist posted:Taunting isn't acceptable in most areas of life, I don't see why sports should be the exception. I mean, it's not like Golden Tate personally offended me and I can't enjoy football anymore. But if there were no restrictions on taunting, there is a good possibility it would degrade the quality of play and there are no real benefits to allowing it. The issue with penalizing taunting is that the difference between a taunt and a celebration (or angry words or whatever else happens on the football field) can be minute, subtle or otherwise misinterpreted by the officials, and if we're placing 15 yard personal fouls on it (let alone negating touchdowns) then it's going to be critical in the outcome of many games. I remember a couple instances where players spun the ball but there happened to be an opposing player nearby so it drew a flag, determining whether a sack dance is aimed at a specific player is always problematic, etc. Even if it's more cut-and-dry, football is a physical, emotional game where the reactions are shown live nationwide so in general I'm going to be against penalizing mild displays of excitement or frustrations since they're not actually hurting anybody, despite your ravings about how it's going to lead to fights or riots or whatever. Spring Break My Heart fucked around with this message at 07:27 on Oct 31, 2013 |
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Chichevache posted:I feel like you're going to have to provide some evidence that the amount of fights would increase. Uh, people are throwing fists in the stands. Kids fight playing with toys. People do not like to be taunted.
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People get paid to write articles that start with There are levels to dumbassery. Dumbassery is like hot sauce. There's mild, medium and extra dumbass. what am I doing with my life?
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Why are you people still reading Bleacher Report
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Why did I open up and sniff the old water bottle still a quarter filled with protein shake that I found in my car after a hot sunny day?
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Benne posted:Why are you people still reading Bleacher Report sometimes you're reading cnn.com and it just happens
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Sash! posted:sometimes you're reading cnn.com and it just happens Why are you people still reading cnn.com
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I get my news sources from varied outlets of varying calibers to broaden my world view and allow me to say why exactly I dislike something rather than painting it with a brush stroke as broad and useless as "oh, it's just CNN"
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Mel Mudkiper posted:Why are you people still reading cnn.com If you don't give your balls a rest from the meat tenderizer every now and again you get used to the pain
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sweet thursday posted:I get my news sources from varied outlets of varying calibers to broaden my world view and allow me to say why exactly I dislike something rather than painting it with a brush stroke as broad and useless as "oh, it's just CNN" I get all of my news from the arrangement of chicken bones I throw into a circle after an incantation. Its free from Liberal Bias
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It's free of "liberal bias" because chicken bones are a poorly disguised mouth piece for the business elite. If you want actual news you need to go to lamb entrails. Public grazing makes them immune to investor's interests.
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In breaking news: Omar Kelly still terrible. (Re: Martin/Incognito) @OmarKelly: locker room is unique place. No place like it. If you can’t take a joke, or be chastised by teammate you don’t belong @OmarKelly: it is important to get the FACTS, and understand all the issues, factors, incidents before formulating a conclusion.
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Ehud is Omar
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quote:Replacement theory front page lead on nfl.com
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Declan MacManus posted:front page lead on nfl.com Adam Rank is a terrible writer. I called him out on some purely wrong information in one of his articles and he replied with a flame.
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quote:@OmarKelly Ive been popular all my life&never understood. Never tried to be popular. Never worked at it. Just always been. Sample size of those Omar polled: 2. Himself and his mother.
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Came here to post that. Other sports writers are making fun of him and it rules.
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I saw Evan Silva laugh at him (Unsurprising when the two insult each other pretty regularly), but it says something that other sports writers are breaking ranks to make fun of him.
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quote:Mark Shields offers this bonus wisdom on maintaining friendly family relations [over Thanksgiving]: Why watch football when you could be using your massive brainpower to have sex with your boss?
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superaielman posted:Sample size of those Omar polled: 2. Himself and his mother. He's well known in south Florida because literally nobody respects him. Time for a fakeomarkelly update
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Peter King gets spicy:quote:Peter King ✔ @SI_PeterKing That aside, I've been enjoying the MMQB site quite a bit, and King is doing some actual reporting this week. He spent about a month following referees for a story for MMQB that's going to be released in segments on his site Wednesday through Friday. I'm actually looking forward to it. Like many, I didn't know a get-back coach was an actual thing (and that Pittsburgh's coach sucks at it).
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Peter King really wants to change the field goals and kicking in general, because nothing interesting ever happens on missed field goals.
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Apparently Tebow has realized there was someone who wanted him all along: http://thebiglead.com/2013/12/03/tim-tebow-tv-bidding-war-brewing-between-three-networks/#sthash.CJ0sjmLZ.uxfs Bidding war between ESPN, CBS and FOX to get him as a talking head. quote:ESPN’s SEC Network, which debuts on August 21, 2014, is planning its own version of ‘College Gameday’ and has settled on three names: Rece Davis (an Alabama grad) would be the host, the voice of the South Paul Finebaum would play the role of Lee Corso, and Tebow would be the show’s Kirk Herbstreit. A source says ESPN is currently searching for another former SEC athlete to fill the final spot.
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I remember where I was when I found out that Tebow beat the Steelers in the playoffs. I had to miss the game because I was the second night into a 3 day bus trip on Christmas holidays. In the morning we stopped in some small town in bumblefuck Ontario and I went into a Subway for breakfast. It was real early and I heard faintly on the radio "something something Tebow something overtime Pittsburgh something" and stood there staring blankly at the little middle eastern lady behind the counter and said "Did.. did that just say Tebow beat the Steelers?" and she stared at me blankly and said "..yes?" It was a beautiful moment between her and I.
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Kalli posted:Apparently Tebow has realized there was someone who wanted him all along: http://thebiglead.com/2013/12/03/tim-tebow-tv-bidding-war-brewing-between-three-networks/#sthash.CJ0sjmLZ.uxfs This has Jay Barker written all over it
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