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I liked that the dead lake was the Gov's soul. I like how they showed a bait worm right before they found the campers. I liked the gunhole in the roof of the camper that the Gov could not fix. Martinez's drunk speech on the camper and the aftermath was creepy and well done. Martinez found the Gov in a pit, and the Gov leaves Martinez in a pit. The zombies stuck in the mud were fantastic. The Gov cannot escape because HE is a zombie stuck in the mud.
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zoux posted:Haha he is a pirate. Snake Plissken, I heard you were dead. Ouzo On Ice fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Nov 27, 2013 |
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Nov 27, 2013 17:01
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My favourite part of the episode in fact was the opening sequence with him playing chess with the little girl with the intense music. I found it remarkably strong. Adding to the list of favourite Season 4 Zombies : -Bear Trap Zombie -Bathtub Zombie -Head-Split Zombie -Intubator Zombie New Additions: -Mudfest Zombies -Permadrowning Zombie
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Yeah and then they cut to the wide shot were we see the clothes line is supported on one side by a tank! Peaceful domesticity is inextricably tied to mechanized violence and also echoing the fight going on on the chess board. By the way those chess pieces a cool. They are remakes of ancient chess pieces found in Scotland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_chessmen euphronius fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Nov 27, 2013 |
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Nov 27, 2013 17:07
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euphronius posted:I liked that the dead lake was the Gov's soul. I like how they showed a bait worm right before they found the campers. I liked the gunhole in the roof of the camper that the Gov could not fix. Martinez's drunk speech on the camper and the aftermath was creepy and well done. Martinez found the Gov in a pit, and the Gov leaves Martinez in a pit. The zombies stuck in the mud were fantastic. The Gov cannot escape because HE is a zombie stuck in the mud.
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euphronius posted:I liked that the dead lake was the Gov's soul. I like how they showed a bait worm right before they found the campers. I liked the gunhole in the roof of the camper that the Gov could not fix. Martinez's drunk speech on the camper and the aftermath was creepy and well done. Martinez found the Gov in a pit, and the Gov leaves Martinez in a pit. The zombies stuck in the mud were fantastic. The Gov cannot escape because HE is a zombie stuck in the mud. No, Brian, you are the demons. And then the Governor was a zombie.
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I found a shot of the show's Lewis Chess pieces
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euphronius posted:I found a shot of the show's Lewis Chess pieces Just read the wikipedia article about them. What a neat cultural artifact. It seems like there's more expression in those guys than the mosaics or illuminated manuscripts of the period that I've seen.
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Nov 27, 2013 20:21
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Buzkashi posted:No, Brian, you are the demons. And then the Governor was a zombie. Is this criticism, or just a joke? I'm not sure.
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rypakal posted:The writers made that decision because the studio demanded the set be used in season 4. I suspect that will turn out to be the primary cause of Mazarras departure, just like Darabont. AMCs television department is a train wreck. AMC also made the decision not to kill the Governor— he was originally going to die at the end of Season 3.
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Nov 27, 2013 21:09
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zoux posted:You know critical and audience response for these last two episodes has been pretty good actually. I hate to sound like a broken record, but audience response does not mean much. Case in point... again: The Following was renewed and got decent ratings.
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Fog Tripper posted:I hate to sound like a broken record, but audience response does not mean much. Jesus loving christ please shut up
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What are your best shows on TV now Fog Tripper.
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I did really like the scene where he's playing chess with the girl and he suddenly stops with a distant look in his eyes. Then he says he's, "thinking". The next shot shows him standing between a tank and a camper. Definitely some cool symbolism there, that's not too overt.
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euphronius posted:What are your best shows on TV now Fog Tripper. Big Bang Theory 
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Mexcillent posted:Or, it could be that the show had a significant problem with quality under Mazarra's tenure (because it did). Why not both?
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Baldbeard posted:I did really like the scene where he's playing chess with the girl and he suddenly stops with a distant look in his eyes. Then he says he's, "thinking". The next shot shows him standing between a tank and a camper. Definitely some cool symbolism there, that's not too overt. I think the best moments in the show are nearly always the cold opens. They function almost like short stories, and also offer an engaging hook to lead into the episode. This means they're often stark character portraits, or interesting set pieces. I agree with you about this one in particular, a very fun reveal that's a genuine "holy poo poo!" moment.
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euphronius posted:What are your best shows on TV now Fog Tripper. Justified, Community, New Girl... why? Mexcillent posted:Jesus loving christ please shut up What the hell is wrong with you? You've done nothing but bitch about other people's opinions since you waltzed in here a few weeks ago. Mexcillent posted:You guys are idiots it was ok. Way better than Season 3's premiere. Mexcillent posted:These are pretty dumb complaints. Mexcillent posted:You're an idiot and I can't wait for you to be proven wrong. Mexcillent posted:Incessant bitching about the show on the stupidest grounds come from your fantasizing about living through it, eh. Mexcillent posted:Anyone who didn't like this episode is an idiot. Mexcillent posted:Yeah god drat you guys for spending two episodes humanizing a guy, this internet poster hates assholes with superiority complexes and Yeah, perhaps you should take your own advice. Fog Tripper fucked around with this message at 03:07 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Fog Tripper and Mexcillent, literally every post you two make is reported. Usually by each other. Both of you just put each other on ignore or shut up.
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I really liked the first Governor episode. Regardless of his past, it was a good story about a man travelling alone and finding new purpose in life. I realized that's what the show should have been all along instead of a camp full of retarded people who constantly argue with/kill each other and get attacked in the most arbitrary ways. Then the second episode rolled around and it was all "yep, this sure is Walking Dead again" 
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Best part of last episode was the cold opening (many of them are indeed amazing) and when they went to the outhouse, discovering new places. I kind of cringed at the golf scene. I know he was supposed to be totally wasted, but this was just annoying (watching this as a golfer myself). Also, would YOU go fetch the balls you just hit when you run out? (during a Zombie Apocalypse that is) (PS : On the other side, I totally LOVED the scene in SG-1 when Jack O'Neill took some golf shots through the Stargate, with the obvious smirk 'this must be some kind of record')
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Deadpool posted:Fog Tripper and Mexcillent, literally every post you two make is reported. Usually by each other. This thread is really good
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Astroman posted:Keep in mind too that Rick is starting to feel the prison isn't so safe. They have threats from the inside (Carol and people who might share her absolutist attitude; the flu) and mass hordes on the outside they can't defend from. A strong attack from the Governor might get them to leave the prison and search for greener pastures. What happened to that .50 cal from season 3? Why aren't they putting spike traps like in "Clear"? They seem to have plenty of rats. They had like 3 months. Its pretty lame to just reinforce chain link fences with wood when they know that there are mobs all over the place that could overwhelm them. You'd think with the manpower, reinforcing the prison, not just the entrance, would be a priority over having a farm. Based on the the fact that Atlanta area was the starting location for most of them, it would take them about 450 miles to get to the Georgia coast. They then have a pick of many islands. It doesn't even matter which county. If they are on the coast, there are islands everywhere.
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Kombotron posted:What happened to that .50 cal from season 3? Why aren't they putting spike traps like in "Clear"? They seem to have plenty of rats. They had like 3 months. Its pretty lame to just reinforce chain link fences with wood when they know that there are mobs all over the place that could overwhelm them. You'd think with the manpower, reinforcing the prison, not just the entrance, would be a priority over having a farm. It's about 250 miles to Savannah from Atlanta, about an extra 50 if you want to go to the barrier islands like Skidaway, St. Simons, or Jekyll.
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Is it even a given that zombies can't pass through water in this universe? In "World War Z", zombies would just wander along the bottoms of lakes until they eventually walked out the other side. In the book, there are reports of Chinese fishermen being pulled from their boats.
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HonorableTB posted:It's about 250 miles to Savannah from Atlanta, about an extra 50 if you want to go to the barrier islands like Skidaway, St. Simons, or Jekyll. Considering that traveling 50 miles, in what looked like the wooded parts of Macon county (I think), you are bound to run into a mob, the chance of 24 people making it to the heavily populated coast doesn't sound so good.
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How many people that were new additions to season 4 are even left? Is it just Bob?
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Kombotron posted:Considering that traveling 50 miles, in what looked like the wooded parts of Macon county (I think), you are bound to run into a mob, the chance of 24 people making it to the heavily populated coast doesn't sound so good. They said they were going to double back towards Newnan, which is a lot farther west than Macon county. I figured they couldn't have been much further west than Meriwether/Upson, but I have no idea where the prison itself is located at. In any case, without use of the interstates they'd have one hell of a time trying to get to Savannah or anywhere on the coast without I-20, I-16, or I-95. Macon/Warner Robins is right out due to the population and the Air Force base there, so they'd have to bypass them and go south all the way to probably Houston/Dooly/Crisp counties then go east. There's no civilization in that part of Georgia when there ISN'T a zombie apocalypse, so imagine how bad it'd be when you have to worry more about the landscape and wildlife than you would walkers. They'd probably be better off going down to Valdosta then heading east through the Okefenokee if they wanted to get to the coast.
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Kasonic posted:How many people that were new additions to season 4 are even left? Is it just Bob? The weird little girl and at least one unnamed boy. I imagine they're going to play fast and loose with Woodburians so they have more unnamed people to kill off as they see fit.
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HonorableTB posted:They said they were going to double back towards Newnan, which is a lot farther west than Macon county. I figured they couldn't have been much further west than Meriwether/Upson, but I have no idea where the prison itself is located at. In any case, without use of the interstates they'd have one hell of a time trying to get to Savannah or anywhere on the coast without I-20, I-16, or I-95. Macon/Warner Robins is right out due to the population and the Air Force base there, so they'd have to bypass them and go south all the way to probably Houston/Dooly/Crisp counties then go east. There's no civilization in that part of Georgia when there ISN'T a zombie apocalypse, so imagine how bad it'd be when you have to worry more about the landscape and wildlife than you would walkers. Holy poo poo they traveled about 65 miles (if we are counting Atlanta as the start point) in 1.5 (in show) years. They will never see the coast.
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Kombotron posted:Holy poo poo they traveled about 65 miles (if we are counting Atlanta as the start point) in 1.5 (in show) years. Which is funny because Hershel's farm is geographically north of Atlanta. That one scene when Glenn was cruising on the interstate in the red convertible was on I-85 southbound, but he was heading north on it. So they left Atlanta, went northeast of the city to the farm, then went AROUND ATLANTA during their 8 months or so of wandering during the winter, and somehow ended up southwest of the city by about 60 miles? Did no one have any idea where they were heading? This group of presumably Georgia natives have no idea where they were going? Hell, I've lived here my entire life and I could still navigate around the state (even parts I've never been to) well enough to at least go in the general direction of my destination just due to knowing where certain cities are located at.
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HonorableTB posted:Which is funny because Hershel's farm is geographically north of Atlanta. That one scene when Glenn was cruising on the interstate in the red convertible was on I-85 southbound, but he was heading north on it. So they left Atlanta, went northeast of the city to the farm, then went AROUND ATLANTA during their 8 months or so of wandering during the winter, and somehow ended up southwest of the city by about 60 miles? Did no one have any idea where they were heading? This group of presumably Georgia natives have no idea where they were going? Hell, I've lived here my entire life and I could still navigate around the state (even parts I've never been to) well enough to at least go in the general direction of my destination just due to knowing where certain cities are located at. They mentioned at the beginning of season 3 that they'd spent the winter trying to travel in different directions and were blocked every time by hoards they couldn't get through. They were actually on their way back through the area heading towards the coast when they stumbled upon the prison.
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I also don't think that they had any real plan for movement after season 2 other than get out of the way of the zombie herds.
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HonorableTB posted:Which is funny because Hershel's farm is geographically north of Atlanta. That one scene when Glenn was cruising on the interstate in the red convertible was on I-85 southbound, but he was heading north on it. So they left Atlanta, went northeast of the city to the farm, then went AROUND ATLANTA during their 8 months or so of wandering during the winter, and somehow ended up southwest of the city by about 60 miles? Did no one have any idea where they were heading? This group of presumably Georgia natives have no idea where they were going? Hell, I've lived here my entire life and I could still navigate around the state (even parts I've never been to) well enough to at least go in the general direction of my destination just due to knowing where certain cities are located at.
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My only problem with the last episode is Kirk Acevedo not shanking the Gov when he had a chance. Oh you killed my brother, that's cool don't worry about it.
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He knew his brother was weak. They were at odds the whole episode.
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Mooseontheloose posted:My only problem with the last episode is Kirk Acevedo not shanking the Gov when he had a chance. Hey man, brothers are a dime a dozen; it's no biggie. Much better to trust a man you've known for almost three whole days with no demonstrated skills other than murdering your own group members.
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Mooseontheloose posted:My only problem with the last episode is Kirk Acevedo not shanking the Gov when he had a chance. He's a lot more level headed these days. Its gonna be a slow cautious approach with finely grounded glass in the gov's food over time until he internally bleeds to death.
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