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Factor_VIII posted:Xan can't cast Evocation spells though. Which mean no Chromatic Orb, Web or Fireball. Eh, losing out on Chromatic or Fireball isn't a big deal and level 2 is full of useful spells, so losing out one isn't that bad (Glitterdust is more OP anyway). verybad fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Trying to move over to BG:EE from our BGT BG1 game, but Cooked is crashing when waiting in the lobby as the host of the game (as I try to join). Any ideas what's up with that?
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Nov 28, 2013 20:15
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Is there a Neera romance in bg2? And if there is, is it less weird than the original ones?
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Nov 28, 2013 20:26
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Nuclear War posted:Is there a Neera romance in bg2? And if there is, is it less weird than the original ones? The romance is a lot less melodramatic than the others until the VERY END of ToB. Its still pretty weird, but no worse than the others.
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Nov 28, 2013 20:34
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Thats pretty cool, does it also develop the character any? If it does, and it can be started if I didn't have Neera with me in bg1, I'm sold
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Nov 28, 2013 20:41
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Rolled a 94 on my BGI Cavalier! Let's see how long I can Ironman a PC which permits no ranged weapons.
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Nov 28, 2013 21:05
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Nuclear War posted:Thats pretty cool, does it also develop the character any? If it does, and it can be started if I didn't have Neera with me in bg1, I'm sold Somewhat. It gives a little insight on what her life has been like. Also yes, you can start any romance regardless of if they were in your party.
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Nov 28, 2013 21:16
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Accretionist posted:Rolled a 94 on my BGI Cavalier! Let's see how long I can Ironman a PC which permits no ranged weapons. Should be fairly easy if you get the ankheg plate and Ring of Princes +1 as early as possible (and aren't soloing, obviously).
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Nov 28, 2013 21:47
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Accretionist posted:Rolled a 94 on my BGI Cavalier! Let's see how long I can Ironman a PC which permits no ranged weapons. You can use throwing axes (and daggers, I think) - the weight is a bit of a pain, but it makes the early game go a bit smoother. Throwing daggers are actually very strong in BGEE with specialization and high strenght, though there are no magical ones. You can get a returning throwing axe +2, but that's fairly late in the game. verybad fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Nov 28, 2013 22:01
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Accretionist posted:Rolled a 94 on my BGI Cavalier! Let's see how long I can Ironman a PC which permits no ranged weapons.
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Nov 28, 2013 22:02
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Baron Bifford posted:Cavaliers are immune to poison, which is a pretty big threat in BG1, so you've got that going for you. Also pretty easy to achieve really high fire resistance early on making fire pot spam easy. e: With a cavalier I like to grab the ring of free action or spider bane, and wear a ring of fire resistance + helm of defense. With those items equipped and your natural abilities you can just tard your Cavalier in and spam web/fireball on him all day. The enemies will get hosed by fireballs and web/entangles and your paladin will be safe thanks to his immunities. Ginette Reno fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Nov 28, 2013 |
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Nov 28, 2013 22:21
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Baron Bifford posted:Cavaliers are immune to poison, which is a pretty big threat in BG1, so you've got that going for you. quote:Baby Wyvern/Wyvern/Greater Wyvern: 5 hp/second for 20 seconds (save vs poison at -4 to avoid)
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Nov 28, 2013 22:27
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verybad posted:You can use throwing axes (and daggers, I think) - the weight is a bit of a pain, but it makes the early game go a bit smoother. Throwing daggers are actually very strong in BGEE with specialization and high strenght, though there are no magical ones. You can get a returning throwing axe +2, but that's fairly late in the game.
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Nov 28, 2013 22:38
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Factor_VIII posted:Thrown weapons have the disadvantage of having a shorter range than bows, slings and crossbows. For a cavalier that might actually be a good thing though, since he will move ahead of the party tanking enemies and drawing attacks that could otherwise be aimed at weaker characters. It's the reason I have mages use slings instead of darts though; a mage who likes to walk ahead of the rest of the party and then draw all enemy attacks to him won't have a very long career. I think that's only darts, actually. I haven't noticed any problems with my druid using throwing daggers or Khalid with throwing axes.
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Welp, that's why I don't try Ironman runs. My Jester moved Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron and Xvar north to get the Ankheg treasure. In spite of trying to avoid all combat everyone dies except my Jester. I pick up the loot, get Ajantis and run south. While travelling in the area south of the Friendly Arm Inn Ajantis is killed by a Gibberling that does 12 damage on a single hit and my Jester runs away straight into a group of kobolds. RIP.
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verybad posted:I think that's only darts, actually. I haven't noticed any problems with my druid using throwing daggers or Khalid with throwing axes.
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Something that I've never heard mentioned explicitly is that the 2nd level cleric/druid spell Slow Poison basically works like the level 4 spell Neutralise Poison, in that it just gets rid of poison. By the rules it's supposed to make it not kick in for some hours, but in this game it just makes it go away. That's a huge deal, given the lethality of poison and how long it takes to get level 4 priestly spells. Plus, Cure Serious Wounds is a precious healing tool and 4th-level spell slots are a bit hard to come by. Maybe it does delay the poison, but the poison runs out before the spell ends, so it effectively cures poison in a roundabout way. Either way, I'm thrilled - not having a poison cure until mid levels was horrible.
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JustJeff88 posted:Something that I've never heard mentioned explicitly is that the 2nd level cleric/druid spell Slow Poison basically works like the level 4 spell Neutralise Poison, in that it just gets rid of poison. By the rules it's supposed to make it not kick in for some hours, but in this game it just makes it go away. That's a huge deal, given the lethality of poison and how long it takes to get level 4 priestly spells. Plus, Cure Serious Wounds is a precious healing tool and 4th-level spell slots are a bit hard to come by. Hah, I've never actually played DnD, so I've always wondered what the point of neutralize poison was when you already had slow poison doing what it does.
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Nightblade posted:Hah, I've never actually played DnD, so I've always wondered what the point of neutralize poison was when you already had slow poison doing what it does.
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Nov 28, 2013 23:34
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Is the experience distribution in the Black Pits 2 seriously quest experience to each individual party member? I don't see why you would want to run less than a full party except for equipment budget reasons and masochism. Even then you can just run a Sorcerer or Monk or Archer in your last slots where equipment costs are virtually negligible save accessories.
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Nov 29, 2013 00:03
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I'm always amused by that assassin mage outside of the Friendly Arm, who could probably demolish most parties at that point except he picks a fight with you in an area where three or so guards will immediately stab him in the face.
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Nov 29, 2013 00:08
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Started a solo ironman game of fighter/mage/cleric. It ended due to getting charmed by a waylaid by enemies mage. Due to being solo getting charmed was game over. So playing that as a non ironman now. Even when solo having 3 classes takes so much xp to level up. I cannot imagine ever playing a 3 class multiclass in anything close to a full party. You are basically soaking up 3 characters worth of xp. Fighter/mage/cleric rocks pretty drat hard. Got some scrolls of tensers transformation and improved haste so the melee damage coming from me at this point is insane. stoneskin, draw upon holy might, righteous magic, improved haste, tensers transformation, completely shred anything that gets in my way. Once I get 7th level cleric spells will throw a regeneration on there as well. I'm getting close to the original SoA XP cap and going to cross over into high level abilities soon so that will be fun.
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In BG2EE, when you right click the "shape shift wolf" to see it's stats, it gives you the description for barkskin instead, at least in my game right now. Really minor bug but still weird.
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^ Same thing happens for Dark Moon Monk's Frozen Fists ability (shows as Chill Touch) I've never played Sword Coast Strategems or the Big World mod versions of Baldur's Gate but that guy never struck me as a really hard fight. All you have to do is Magic Missile Wand him every turn and restart if he gets Mirror Image off. steakmancer fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Just bought BG:EE on the Steam Sale, since it's been a while since I played the first game. Are there any mods that I should use? I have already played it without mods so I'd like to try any gameplay/plot mods that would make the game a bit different. Also, I'm planning to play as an Inquisitor, will I miss out any things if I play as a Lawful Good character? I'm used to neutral Mages in BG and BG2.
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For anyone thinking of an Ironman run, standing near Tazok if you get into the bandits and then confront him with the fact you know about Mulahey is enough to instantly kill CHARNAME in combat, and not from 'normal' damage, just insta-damage to death. So err don't do that.
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Iggles posted:My Jester moved Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron and Xvar north to get the Ankheg treasure. In spite of trying to avoid all combat everyone dies except my Jester. I pick up the loot, get Ajantis and run south. While travelling in the area south of the Friendly Arm Inn Ajantis is killed by a Gibberling that does 12 damage on a single hit and my Jester runs away straight into a group of kobolds. RIP. baldursgate.txt right here.
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DeathChicken posted:Note to self: That fighter/mage/hobgoblin archer trio southwest of Beregost can very easily end an Ironman run. Particularly the archer with his poison arrows. Argh. Iggles posted:Welp, that's why I don't try Ironman runs. My Jester moved Imoen, Khalid, Jaheira, Montaron and Xvar north to get the Ankheg treasure. In spite of trying to avoid all combat everyone dies except my Jester. I pick up the loot, get Ajantis and run south. While travelling in the area south of the Friendly Arm Inn Ajantis is killed by a Gibberling that does 12 damage on a single hit and my Jester runs away straight into a group of kobolds. RIP. Y'all should take your silly ironman attempts into the ironman thread proper, the more the merrier!
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JustJeff88 posted:Something that I've never heard mentioned explicitly is that the 2nd level cleric/druid spell Slow Poison basically works like the level 4 spell Neutralise Poison, in that it just gets rid of poison. By the rules it's supposed to make it not kick in for some hours, but in this game it just makes it go away. That's a huge deal, given the lethality of poison and how long it takes to get level 4 priestly spells. Plus, Cure Serious Wounds is a precious healing tool and 4th-level spell slots are a bit hard to come by. The big thing to remember about slow and neutralize poison is that they're near instant cast. The "cure" spells are infamous for being kind of slow casts so you get interrupted while healing on the front line or people just die before they actually get off. I hardly ever use them in battle.
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Rascyc posted:Slow poison just cures poison in BG. Neutralize poison cures pretty much any "physical" related ailment like disease, poison, blindness, deafness, and I think maybe even silence? It also recovers a little bit of HP. Good point - I'd forgotten that Neutralise Poison can cure disease. Nightblade posted:Hah, I've never actually played DnD, so I've always wondered what the point of neutralize poison was when you already had slow poison doing what it does. Well, in Pen & Paper 2nd ed Slow Poison did exactly that - it made a poison stop functioning and not set in for 8 hours or some such. Dubious usefulness, because one was relatively unlikely to find a cure in that time period. Also, there were no small number of instant-acting poisons and the only thing that one could do for those was hope to not fail the saving throw. In computer BG, all poisons (that I know of) do damager over time, so a quick-casting low-level universal priestly poison cure is a godsend (pun very much intended) and drat near necessary.
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Going thru the stronghold maze on my solo f/m/c and got to the part where you were judged. The game freaked out and suddenly the judge was a mind flayer and instant killed me. I have no idea what is going on.
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JustJeff88 posted:Good point - I'd forgotten that Neutralise Poison can cure disease. Well, apart from the comically huge numbers of elixirs of health/antidotes about... In my current run (which will be divine magic-less until I dual my Berserker -> Druid in BG2), I've realised just how little I used clerics for, and how much of the ways I used them were critically dull. Currently, if I need to fight I throw haste and emotion:hope (from the IWD BGEE mod) on with my mages, pop poison weapon with Dorn and Berserk with my PC and charge in. With clerics I'm always tempted to overbuff (do I need prot from evil? Probably not, but might as well... What about chant? Bless? Chuck them on too... etc), and never use them to heal unless in truly desperate straights (always too slow anyway) and instead plink away with a sling. It feels at times as if clerics can pretty much be replaced wholesale with potions.
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Is doing a 2 person party through baldur's gate a doable thing? Or does splitting the experience two ways slow down the fast growth from a normal solo play too much, if you get what I mean?
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LibbyM posted:Is doing a 2 person party through baldur's gate a doable thing? Or does splitting the experience two ways slow down the fast growth from a normal solo play too much, if you get what I mean?
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Nimbul: I am NIMBUL! Your death comes swiftly! *Five Amnish guards parked around Nimbul fill him full of arrows* This is becoming a trend.
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DeathChicken posted:Nimbul: I am NIMBUL! Your death comes swiftly! Doesn't he have boots of 90% missile avoidance? Probably for that exact reason.
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+5 boots. It did not save him from arrows coming from five directions.
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How good is a Fighter/Cleric or Talos Cleric for a CHAR and Imoen run?
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Shadeoses posted:How good is a Fighter/Cleric or Talos Cleric for a CHAR and Imoen run? I feel Fighter/Cleric is pretty much the best class, synergistically, for a Bhaal Bros run. CHAR tanks like a fiend, dishing out insane damage, while Imoen finds traps and casts spells. Seriously, righteous magic on a f/c is so good it's broken.
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