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Honestly SMG's interpretation of Bound 2 is very obvious and Kanye has essentially confirmed as much in interviews that it was exactly what he was trying to do. I know that SMG has a persona beyond this as well and is known for out-there interpretations but if actually understanding the video on a really base level garners this response;echronorian posted:SMG, simultaneously the best and worst poster of SA media forums that's really dumb. Anyway its a really cool video, I'd rather someone like Kanye make something weird and have it fail in a lot of people's eyes than try for average and generic and succeed. I feel a lot of people hating on it aren't really aware of much of what Kanye's done or his public persona but then a lot of people in this thread are fans and say they hate it so I don't know.
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Kid Gloves posted:But yeah you want to be facing the stage as head-on as possible for this show so keep that in mind I'm going to the show in Toronto next month and now feel like I'm missing out cuz I couldn't get GA tickets before they sold out, and I'm seated on the side. gently caress. What am I missing out on???? I must know. I think I'm in Row 1 too.
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It's fine, I was on the side too and had a great time, but I think it's cooler if you're in GA because Yeezy's framed by the mountain the entire time. It's really not a big deal though
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Thank Yeezus. Was pumped to see the show regardless but figured something about the mountain would be the answer. Guess I'll live without being able to see dat frame-age.
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Personally, I feel like Ye copping to the fact that the video for Bound 2 is cheezy is the closest thing to damage control we're gonna get. The reason I don't buy that he set out to make that as lame as it ended up is because he has traditionally positioned himself as the artist who is transcendent in his delusional narrative. Him copping to the accusation feels more like, 'gently caress it it is what it is and there's no time to do anything else' than 'ha ha, I know I'm lame and pussy whipped, lets laugh at my love letter to my baby mamma'.
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Dead Snoopy posted:Him copping to the accusation feels more like, 'gently caress it it is what it is and there's no time to do anything else' than 'ha ha, I know I'm lame and pussy whipped, lets laugh at my love letter to my baby mamma'. Man, if Bound 2 is a love letter to Kim, then I'd hate to see what a poison pen letter looks like.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Man, if Bound 2 is a love letter to Kim, then I'd hate to see what a poison pen letter looks like. Blood on the Leaves.
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Dead Snoopy posted:Personally, I feel like Ye copping to the fact that the video for Bound 2 is cheezy is the closest thing to damage control we're gonna get. The reason I don't buy that he set out to make that as lame as it ended up is because he has traditionally positioned himself as the artist who is transcendent in his delusional narrative. Him copping to the accusation feels more like, 'gently caress it it is what it is and there's no time to do anything else' than 'ha ha, I know I'm lame and pussy whipped, lets laugh at my love letter to my baby mamma'. The song itself, independent of the video, is full of humor that straddles a line between self-deprecatory and self-aggrandizing. After the whole bleak album, he jokes about fixing his life in a way that sounds resigned to failure - while also half-bragging about all the mischief he'll get up to. The video fits it quite well. Like, watch it immediately after the video for Black Skinhead, and the New Slaves projections, to see the gulf between sincere Kanye and satirical Kanye. Bound 2 is not a love letter to Kim K. Nobody in the world would film a 'love letter' this way - I don't care who you are. It looks like a cosmetics commercial crossed with a porno, and Kim is essentially used as a prop. Kanye West is over-the-top, but he's not inhumanly stupid. Remember that half the album is critical of misogyny in the guise of empowerment. Kanye's loving a realdoll on a motorcycle ride through a screen saver, and the only thing missing is an eagle shedding a tear in the background. SuperMechagodzilla fucked around with this message at 03:52 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:The song itself, independent of the video, is full of humor that straddles a line between self-deprecatory and self-aggrandizing. After the whole bleak album, he jokes about fixing his life in a way that sounds resigned to failure - while also half-bragging about all the mischief he'll get up to. The video fits it quite well. Like, watch it immediately after the video for Black Skinhead, and the New Slaves projections, to see the gulf between sincere Kanye and satirical Kanye. Yeah the video is pretty obviously the equivalent to a 20 something year old wearing a wolf shirt ironically. It's his comment on the outdated idea of the American dream. I don't know how anyone can watch the video and think he is sitting there thinking that it's meant to be this all too serious non ironic video. Again it's him taking a hold of white culture. The_Rob fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Nov 29, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:Man, if Bound 2 is a love letter to Kim, then I'd hate to see what a poison pen letter looks like. 808s & Heartbreaks vol.2 - TBR right after after him & Kim split. I'm calling it for mid-2015.
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Dead Snoopy posted:808s & Heartbreaks vol.2 - TBR right after after him & Kim split. I'm calling it for mid-2015. You're way too optimistic about their longevity
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Alan Smithee posted:You're way too optimistic about their longevity you'd be astonished at how long some people will stay together simply so their stubbornness will win out
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Alan Smithee posted:You're way too optimistic about their longevity That's what they said about Khloe & Lamar and it lasted longer than most expected. Everything after Yeezus will be 'Ye's 'Kane Kardashian' era.
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Bruce Jenner turned into a vampire lesbian, Lamar Odom started smoking crack, now Kanye's yelling about clothing companies for 20 minutes a night. The Kardashian women are not to be trusted.
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Went to YEEZUS Miami last night. The crowd absolutely demanded that Kanye "talk [his] poo poo again". They would've been so disappointed had he kept his mouth shut.
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Scorched Spitz posted:How about you actually give me a reason the horns in the song don't suck? All I've been getting is that they're just so obviously great and they make the crowd go wild. Well just because people mosh at a Family Values tour, that doesn't mean those lineups aren't comprised of bands riding some of the worst trends in rock. Those horns are monotonous as gently caress and completely flat-sounding. They're the most prominent element of a six-minute song and they sound like a moron's definition of avant-garde, taking something lovely and selling it as genius. You're really gonna sit here and tell me that anything made by Beats by the Pound is worth salvaging? Sorry i still cant believe this was a real post  The beat loving owns.
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temple posted:Yeezus earned the #2 spot in Rolling Stones top albums of 2013. I know lists are always bad but that top ten is notably bad. It's taking everything I've got not to start elaborating but goddammit I will not.
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temple posted:Yeezus earned the #2 spot in Rolling Stones top albums of 2013. That's pretty crazy. I'm a fan of Ye's but Yeezus wasn't even top 5 rap albums of 2013.
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Now Ye's being accused of being an anti-semite by the Anti-Defamation League. Ye's comment: Yeezy posted:Man, let me tell you something about George Bush and oil money and Obama and no money. People want to say Obama can't make these moves or he's not executing. That's because he ain't got those connections... Black people don't have the same level of connections as Jewish people. Black people don't have the same connections as oil people. Foxman posted:This is classic anti-Semitism. There it goes again, the age-old canard that Jews are all-powerful and control the levers of power in government. As a celebrity with a wide following, Kanye West should know better. We hope that he will take responsibility for his words, understand why they are so offensive, and apologize to those he has offended. "Kanye West should know better" 
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Kanye West does not care about Jewish people. (Mike Myers begins to speak but changes his mind)
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Kanye didn't say anything about pulling levers in government. He simply said black people don't have the same levels of connections. That's a factual statement. Foxman can eat a dick.
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I know ive been very lukewarm and skeptical about Yeezus but it still just doesnt feel like AOTY-caliber to me and i already felt like i was missing something big that would make me fall in the love with the album before at least 2 publications whose opinions i generally agree with endorsed it. Dammit... Going to listen some more.
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I said it before but I think a major reason Yeezus is going to take the top spot for a lot of people is that it's short and easy to re-listen to. It was a departure in a few different ways but it's not a slog. Like...I'm sure Reflektor would make more sense after a few more listens too but I don't want to spend the rest of the year trying to figure out why Win Butler wants me to get depressed to carnivale music about how lovely missionaries are.
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It's race to praise the alt black guy that makes passable music other people may have heard. They'll hate him next album to compensate.
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temple posted:It's race to praise the alt black guy that makes passable music other people may have heard. They'll hate him next album to compensate. I dunno the adulation for MBDTF was insane so if there was gonna be critical backlash it would have happened.
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temple posted:It's race to praise the alt black guy Pretty much. Also theres no other juggernauts from this year besides Daft Punk and Arcade Fire that straddle both indie and mainstream circuits. Daft punk album is too flawed but i expect reflektor to beat out yeezus on other lists
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blakout posted:I dunno the adulation for MBDTF was insane so if there was gonna be critical backlash it would have happened. Yeah, especially with an album as blatantly rushed as this one was.
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blakout posted:I dunno the adulation for MBDTF was insane so if there was gonna be critical backlash it would have happened.
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thathonkey posted:Also theres no other juggernauts from this year besides Daft Punk and Arcade Fire that straddle both indie and mainstream circuits. There were two Justin Timberlake albums, a Yeah Yeah Yeahs album, an Arctic Monkeys album, a Franz Ferdinand album... like this year was insane for new music, and you think Yeezus is winning due to lack of competition? temple posted:There was an album between MBDTF and Yeezus, a shame no one heard it. Can it really count if it was all of G.O.O.D. Music? Doesn't that mean Watch the Throne counts as a Kanye album? People were pretty fond of that from what I remember.
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Yeezus was a better album than Watch the Throne. I will fight you.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Yeezus was a better album than Watch the Throne. I will fight you. I'm not saying it wasn't, I'm saying that if their "people will hate his next album to compensate" theory holds any water, then people would have hated Watch the Throne. Which they didn't.
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The Singing Chav posted:Yeah, especially with an album as blatantly rushed as this one was. Preach
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