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hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Apollodorus posted:

Yeah, a minor character in Insurrection got that - there was a joke in the Frakes/Sirtis commentary about how he must have the best agent in Hollywood seeing as he was a no-name playing a guy with like 6 lines.

Yeah. This guy got an 'as' in Insurrection: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Michael_Welch

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Sash!
Mar 16, 2001


Otisburg posted:

But Troi crashes the D before it can get triple nacelle pimped out, and it's replaced by the E so that's clearly an alternate future from the films.

Or it makes it even more Riker-worthy.

"Yeah, I had them put it back together with a little extra, for style." :smugdog:

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The X-COM project did not deliver the universe's ultimate cup of coffee. You have failed to save the Earth.


Veotax posted:

For the sake of completeness, here is the Romulan time ship:



Also since we're posting STO stuff: Goons, here is STO's Odyssey calss Enterprise F. Thoughts?




It has dual necks, so there is a hole between the saucer and engineering sections.

That was designed by contest. A goon made the most popular entry, won the official fan vote, and in the official results the contest runners didn't even give him a mention out of 4 prizes and 21 runners up. CBS! :argh:

(click for ginormous)



For reference, heres the entry that won. Its not bad, but not even throwing Fuzzy Modem an honorable mention was flat out insulting.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009

LeafyOrb posted:

Those uniforms suck and make everyone look super old even when they're not. Tucked in shirts is not the way to go Starfleet.

Well we know that the Starfleet uniform department is the most poorly managed division in the entire Federation. Within a period of about 100 years they went:

1 - basic single-coloured t-shirt and black dress pants
2 - Actual Navy-like, indistinct military uniforms
3 - skin-tight pyjamas
4 - non-skin-tight alternative of the above.

The uniforms change 4 times within about 7 years for no reason whatsoever, and at one point the policy seemed to be "just wear whatever type of uniform you want / can find lying around.

GET IN THE ROBOT
Nov 28, 2007

JUST GET IN THE FUCKING ROBOT SHINJI
A big problem with designing new Federation ships is they've pretty much run out of ways you can take that basic shape of a saucer section, engineering hull and two nacelles and change it up so it looks different, but still looks good. You have the Excelsior and Soverign classes that are longer, flatter and "speedier" looking than the Constitution, and then you have the Ambassador and Galaxy which are wider, taller and "beefier". There's not much else you can do with that shape and not have it look weird.

That said, I actually do like the look of the Enterprise-J, as well, it still looks like an Enterprise, but takes the proportions in a different direction, in that it's squished flat like a pancake, but has a round instead of arrow shaped saucer. I mean, what else are you going to do with the proportions to differentiate it from other Enterprises? The Enterprise-F in STO basically looks like a fat Sovereign.

Great_Gerbil
Sep 1, 2006
Rhombomys opimus

Gammatron 64 posted:

A big problem with designing new Federation ships is they've pretty much run out of ways you can take that basic shape of a saucer section, engineering hull and two nacelles and change it up so it looks different, but still looks good. You have the Excelsior and Soverign classes that are longer, flatter and "speedier" looking than the Constitution, and then you have the Ambassador and Galaxy which are wider, taller and "beefier". There's not much else you can do with that shape and not have it look weird.

That said, I actually do like the look of the Enterprise-J, as well, it still looks like an Enterprise, but takes the proportions in a different direction, in that it's squished flat like a pancake, but has a round instead of arrow shaped saucer. I mean, what else are you going to do with the proportions to differentiate it from other Enterprises? The Enterprise-F in STO basically looks like a fat Sovereign.

According to Doug Drexler et al the Enterprise J is supposed to be kilometers long and carry the Relativity class ships as support craft.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Great_Gerbil posted:

And I find it odd, but Cumberbatch vaguely resembles Montalbon from Space Seed if he'd been kept out of the sunlight for a decade.

Montalban.

Also, Cumberbatch looks nothing like Montalban, and aside from that, Star Trek already has an out for two people that barely even resemble each other playing the same character. After all, surgical technology to make someone appear to be a member of an entirely different species exists, so making the guy from Treasure Island look like the best Sherlock Holmes actor since Jeremy Brett ain't nothing.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

The E-J is terrible and I like to assume it never existed in Trek-verse. I mean, it looks like some poor guy was told "Make a future Enterprise Goddamnit! We need it by the end of the day!"

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009

Did I just say that out loud~~?!!!
I actually kind of like the U.S.S. Relativity, because it kind of shows how things have progressed from the Saucer & Nacelle school of thought in the intervening five centuries between then and the shows' era, deriving from the generation of ships that might have evolved starting from the Defiant's design.

Mental Hospitality
Jan 5, 2011

DrSunshine posted:

I actually kind of like the U.S.S. Relativity, because it kind of shows how things have progressed from the Saucer & Nacelle school of thought in the intervening five centuries between then and the shows' era, deriving from the generation of ships that might have evolved starting from the Defiant's design.

Exactly. I don't see anything wrong with it, since like you said, the Defiant was a pretty radical departure in of itself.

thedangergroove
Nov 14, 2004
Long for karate day.
A couple months ago a couple friends of mine that own a craft studio that specializes in geek culture candles and ceramics asked me if I could come up with some ideas of Star Trek themed candles for them as they weren't terribly familiar with Trek stuff.

I rattled off a lot of stuff and kind of forgot about it. Just on Sunday, I went over to an open house at their studio and they hand me these two free candles that I had apparently suggested.

There is of course the captain's favorite replicator order on the left, Earl Grey, which is apparently made from bergamot orange. On the right is something I didn't think they'd go through with, but it is peat and earth with a touch of lilac.

I don't have the heart to tell them that the scent of Worf was only a throwaway line in DS9. They smell great, by the way and I think they'll be stocking them online soon.

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

I'm sad that I missed Best Worf Lines chat earlier. I just want you all to know that Worf does not appreciate you all calling him the funniest character.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ICpoWtFFzc

Angry Salami
Jul 27, 2013

Don't trust the skull.

Sash! posted:

Then they get married.

A thing that happened.

I choose to believe he married the hologram.

Marx Headroom
May 10, 2007

AT LAST! A show with nonono commercials!
Fallen Rib

thedangergroove posted:

There is of course the captain's favorite replicator order on the left, Earl Grey, which is apparently made from bergamot orange. On the right is something I didn't think they'd go through with, but it is peat and earth with a touch of lilac.

That's amazing. You're amazing. Your friends are amazing.

Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer

Great_Gerbil posted:

According to Doug Drexler et al the Enterprise J is supposed to be kilometers long and carry the Relativity class ships as support craft.

Man I hope Drexler was just tanked or whatever when he said that because I actually had respect for him as a designer. That's dumb poo poo on the same level as "oh lol the akira is a through-deck fighter carrier and also it has 50 torpedo launchers because lololololoolololo isn't that kewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl"

Mr. Jive posted:

That's amazing. You're amazing. Your friends are amazing.

Agreed, the candles are very cool.

Farecoal
Oct 15, 2011

There he go
http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Mintakan_tapestry

Awww, Picard :3:

Circutron
Apr 29, 2006
We are confident that the Islamic logic, culture, and discourse can prove their superiority in all fields over all schools of thought and theories.
Just finished Enterprise. Stopped after Terra Prime as the thread suggested, and I'm glad I did.

Man, that final arc was really great. It made me forget that the first two seasons were mostly full of crap, and the abysmal Space Nazi and Vulcan arcs of Season 4, too. Peter Weller really nailed the role they gave him.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

hailthefish posted:

Yeah. This guy got an 'as' in Insurrection: http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Michael_Welch

Data's dorky friend from Insurrection was the teenage O'Neill in SG1? :aaaaa:

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.


Huh, I never noticed that prop in any of its appearances after Watchers. Nice touch.

...I did however spot Picard casually tossing aside his precious Kurlan figure while looking for a book at the end of Generations. Maybe his professor actually found a cheap fake and Picard just didn't have the heart to tell him.

I wonder how many random mementos the average Starfleet captain collects over their careers. The best has to be Sisko's clock, because... well, it's a clock!

Iprazochrome
Nov 3, 2008

Tighclops posted:

Man I hope Drexler was just tanked or whatever when he said that because I actually had respect for him as a designer. That's dumb poo poo on the same level as "oh lol the akira is a through-deck fighter carrier and also it has 50 torpedo launchers because lololololoolololo isn't that kewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl"

I don't really see a problem with this as long as we never actually see the J again. It works on a "holy poo poo, look how cool stuff is in the far distant future!" level.

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Tighclops posted:

Man I hope Drexler was just tanked or whatever when he said that because I actually had respect for him as a designer. That's dumb poo poo on the same level as "oh lol the akira is a through-deck fighter carrier and also it has 50 torpedo launchers because lololololoolololo isn't that kewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwl"

I don't remember the bit about Relativity timeships; wouldn't they be the wrong century, anyway?

He did say it was an intergalactic explorer and about two miles long and had parks and people from universities and entertainment promenades and all facets of life aboard it, which I'm fine with. Hell, the D was meant to have a lot of that anyway but they didn't have the budget or FX tech to show it. Federation ships evolving towards being proto-GSVs was Roddenberry's original take on the TNG and later era. I appreciate what they were trying to do; it's just the design looks crappy.

The interior set of the J from Enterprise sucked rear end, too. Tiny little screens set into the wall and everything; you'd think if they were gonna CG for a single scene they'd go full on holodisplays and smart walls and everything.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:14 on Dec 4, 2013

Brute Squad
Dec 20, 2006

Laughter is the sun that drives winter from the human race

Delsaber posted:

Huh, I never noticed that prop in any of its appearances after Watchers. Nice touch.

...I did however spot Picard casually tossing aside his precious Kurlan figure while looking for a book at the end of Generations. Maybe his professor actually found a cheap fake and Picard just didn't have the heart to tell him.

I wonder how many random mementos the average Starfleet captain collects over their careers. The best has to be Sisko's clock, because... well, it's a clock!

The baseball Sisko got from inter dimensional explorers was pretty cool too.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Circutron posted:

Just finished Enterprise. Stopped after Terra Prime as the thread suggested, and I'm glad I did.

It's going to eat away at you.



You know you're going to watch it.



FAT RIKER

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I like how O'Brien in DS9 isn't American and as poo poo goes down you'll hear a bloody hell

Makes an Aussie or Englishman's ears prick up :)

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Tony Montana posted:

I like how O'Brien in DS9 isn't American and as poo poo goes down you'll hear a bloody hell

Makes an Aussie or Englishman's ears prick up :)

Lets not forget he got to say bollocks in one episode.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Do they censor American shows over there which have a random dude always spouting off about bloody buggers? Like is there an AUS-only DS9 set with "UNCENSORED" stickers on it?

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

What is it with Star Trek writers creating norms where women are naked at marriages?

There's the whole Betazoid thing in TNG, then in DS9 it crops up again when Rom and Leeta get married. I know there are different contexts behind both depictions (Betazoid nakedness is gender neutral and treated as a different culture thing whereas the Ferengi thing is part of a deeply misogynistic culture) but it's a bit weird that naked weddings is a thing that happens more than once.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Nerds are huge perverts.

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Alchenar posted:

What is it with Star Trek writers creating norms where women are naked at marriages?

There's the whole Betazoid thing in TNG, then in DS9 it crops up again when Rom and Leeta get married. I know there are different contexts behind both depictions (Betazoid nakedness is gender neutral and treated as a different culture thing whereas the Ferengi thing is part of a deeply misogynistic culture) but it's a bit weird that naked weddings is a thing that happens more than once.

I am pretty sure that both are from TNG. The first time the Ferengi appear they ask why the Females are wearing clothes. It is all Gene.

Vengeance of Pandas
Sep 8, 2008

THE TERRIBLE POST WENT THATAWAY!

Tony Montana posted:

I like how O'Brien in DS9 isn't American and as poo poo goes down you'll hear a bloody hell

Makes an Aussie or Englishman's ears prick up :)

O'Brien is one of my favourite Star trek characters, because even more than Scotty he's just that practical, down to earth guy doing his job. Pity about all the suffering.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Gene was just obsessed with getting his Roddenberrys off with ~space sex~, it's why all the women are described as VERY womanly.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

If Gene Roddenberry had written Mummies Alive!, the mummies would have shouted "With the Grace Known as Woman!" to transform.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Do they censor American shows over there which have a random dude always spouting off about bloody buggers? Like is there an AUS-only DS9 set with "UNCENSORED" stickers on it?

I remember watching some cartoon when I was a babby. I don't remember anything about the plot other than it ended with a British guy yelling "Bollocks!"

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Do they censor American shows over there which have a random dude always spouting off about bloody buggers? Like is there an AUS-only DS9 set with "UNCENSORED" stickers on it?

Huh? I don't really understand what you're asking, but nothing is censored in Australia. Or England. It's quite funny watching Gordon Ramsay, because he did some American series and it's just constant beeping while English and Aussies just understand that if you're going to get offended by swearing then don't watch Ramsay.

We often laugh how Americans will bleep swear words but three people getting shot in the space of a minute complete with a one-liner from the shooter is a-ok.

I think there is some basic rule like no 'gently caress' before 9PM or something, but after that it's open slather. But there is no soft porn on TV or anything, unlike Germany which I was in about a month ago.. holy poo poo flicking through the channels and gently caress me, or rather gently caress her.. this is full on porn on free to air TV. Go Germany :)

I'm in Italy now and I was told they love it too but they've decided to become more modern or something and I can't find any :(

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Oh and.. thread title

Star Trek: Grace that is Woman

Comon lads. You know you wanna

bobkatt013
Oct 8, 2006

You’re telling me Peter Parker is ...... Spider-man!?

Tony Montana posted:

I'm in Italy now and I was told they love it too but they've decided to become more modern or something and I can't find any :(

I assume its due to the owner of Mediaset being a well known prude.

edogawa rando
Mar 20, 2007

Fucks and cunts are censored until the watershed of 8:30 here in NZ. You can drop a few shits all day though. New Zealand, Best Zealand.

Tony Montana
Aug 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

bobkatt013 posted:

I assume its due to the owner of Mediaset being a well known prude.

That crazy fucker is still going strong, despite being kicked out of politics. Actually the whole country is a bit insane, nice ski resorts though :D

Vagabundo posted:

Fucks and cunts are censored until the watershed of 8:30 here in NZ. You can drop a few shits all day though. New Zealand, Best Zealand.

Yeah, it's the same for us, little brother. I skiied in your country too, South Island and Queenstown is some loving a-grade poo poo. Big up for NZ crew.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Vagabundo posted:

You can drop a few shits all day though.

I wouldn't imagine too many Trekkies have a healthy enough diet for that.

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Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.

DrNutt posted:

I wouldn't imagine too many Trekkies have a healthy enough diet for that.

Speak for yourself :colbert:

In the 24th century, mankind has evolved beyond a need for making GBS threads, however. Hence only one public restroom on the Galaxy class.

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