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fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

TheReverend posted:

But not close enough that being good at one passively helps you be good at the other.

Wrong

Marching Powder posted:

can somebody explain to me why someone can do this to an olympian? i know bjj and wrestling are two different things but i thought they were close cousins or something

Because Marcelo is an insane once-in-a-lifetime talent and if BJJ were in the Olympics he'd probably have enough medals to gold-plate his kitchen.

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willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
http://fightland.vice.com/blog/james-the-colossus-thompson-gets-a-second-shot-at-pride---part-1

Cool JT blog is out.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
Askren's scrambly style also plays directly into marcelo's strengths. Assumably askren would do better now after a few more years of training, but its hard to predict what better would mean

Tezcatlipoca
Sep 18, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bec_CVKUWuU

It isn't just Askren getting wrecked by Marcelo either. There are tons of these where he crushes a multitude of world class grapplers.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
And lets not confuse BJJ with MMA. Once you are able to punch the other person, some black belts turn into white belts.

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
Maia actually does ok, which is understandable because he is a world class BJJ guy himself.

This is one of the best ones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRWUatsDRzE

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

There's a 20 minute video of Shields sparring with Rafael Mendes that went up on YT a few days ago as well. Not quite as action-packed as the Marcelo ones but it is funny watching Shields turn several shades of Ken Shamrock purple while Mendes stays pretty chill throughout. Also that arm-drag at 5:20 :swoon:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFDsgucTGzA

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
^^^^^^^^^^
That whole arm brag to anaconda scramble rules. Also I've always loved the Mendes bros all white layout.


We should honestly have a Marcelo Garcia Appreciation station. I think everyone can understand a nice little man tooling skilled opponents twice his size.

Dangersim fucked around with this message at 08:13 on Dec 4, 2013

Chexoid
Nov 5, 2009

Now that I have this dating robot I can take it easy.
My fav. marcelo video is after he beat Jake Shields and Shields goes back to his locker room like :stare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lORxrOEGg

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011

Chexoid posted:

My fav. marcelo video is after he beat Jake Shields and Shields goes back to his locker room like :stare:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3lORxrOEGg

is that the first and only time jake's been tapped

Sprecherscrow
Dec 20, 2009

Dangersim posted:

Also I've always loved the Mendes bros all white layout.

Yeah it looks like they train in the loading program from The Matrix. Also, while I would never want Rafa to transition to MMA full time, I think it would be cool to see him fight some really bad fighter on a Z-League show to see if he could do something like pull off an MMA berimbolo.

fatherdog
Feb 16, 2005

david carmichael posted:

is that the first and only time jake's been tapped

In competition? I think so. Cameron Earle got him in a super-deep armlock in ADCC and I guess Miller was sort of close to RNCing him; those are the only other times I remember him being even close to being submitted.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

fatherdog posted:

In competition? I think so. Cameron Earle got him in a super-deep armlock in ADCC and I guess Miller was sort of close to RNCing him; those are the only other times I remember him being even close to being submitted.

Miller beating him would have been hysterical and possibly stopped a descent into utter madness.

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
well if miller did someone beat jake, just imagine how knocked out he would have gotten by dan henderson

david carmichael
Oct 28, 2011
for reference watch the mendes/shields video, and reconsider how close miller was to actually getting that choke

david carmichael fucked around with this message at 19:24 on Dec 4, 2013

individual865
Mar 26, 2007

Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.
B-League Update!

Tons of events this week!


Today:


Coliseu Extreme Fight 8- 6PM EST: http://www.agoranatv.tv/canais/combate.html or http://aovivoagora.com/AoVivo/combate-ao-vivo/

Friday:

OneFC- 8AM EST: $10 online ppv at http://www.onefc.com/livestream.html

Oplot White Collar- 2PM EST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsnzHrekvQ

Legacy FC 26- 10 PM EST: axs.tv


Saturday


Fight Nights Russia- 1:20PM EST: http://en.glaz.tv/online-tv/rossiya-2

Cage Warriors 62- 2PM EST: Prelims on CWFC's facebook, main card at cagewarriors.mmajunkie.com

Oplot Challenge 91- 2PM EST: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WhP_zyPUI4

KSW 25- 2PM EST: $7 online ppv at http://www.kswtv.com/?page=events&id=2 Buy this one, as they've dropped the price to a reasonable $7, and Tomasz Marciniak, Polish mma journo/occasional #mma participant is doing the English commentary. Also, buying the ppv gets you the full event for 72 hours on demand, which might be necessary this weekend, unless you want to watch 5 events at once.

Jungle Fight 62- 6PM EST: http://www.agoranatv.tv/canais/combate.html or http://aovivoagora.com/AoVivo/combate-ao-vivo/

WSOF 7- 6PM EST: Prelims at http://www.wsof.com main card on NBCSports

Invicta FC 7- 7PM EST: Prelims at http://invictafc.com/invicta-fc-7-live-internet-prelim-stream/ Main card is a $14.95 online ppv at http://invictafc.com/invicta-fc-7-live-internet-pay-per-view-stream/


Sunday

Nitrix Fighting Championship- 6PM EST: http://www.agoranatv.tv/canais/combate.html or http://aovivoagora.com/AoVivo/combate-ao-vivo/



Our cups runneth over this weekend, come discuss the surfeit of combat in #mma: http://cgiirc.synirc.net/

individual865 fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Dec 6, 2013

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!
Just so LobsterMobster knows, I'll be re-editing this into an :effort: post to help with the Invicta GDT for at least like 90-150 minutes or whenever I run out of :effort:, to help with the Invicta 7 GDT.

*this post is subject to continuous edits*

For use in the Invicta 7 GDT:



Invicta FC 7
Saturday, December 7th
Ameristar Casino Hotel
Kansas City, Missouri
Prelims start at 8 PM Eastern/5 PM Pacific/Midnight GMT

Prelims are airing free wherever you can purchase it on cable and satellite, as well on https://invictafc.com's front page.

Main Card starts at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific/1 AM GMT
You can purchase the main card for $14.95 on PPV on Direct TV, DISH Network, and many American cable providers, as well as on the internet here. If you purchase it on the internet you can watch it at https://invictafc.com's tablet-tastic new front page.



Weight-In Results:

Main Card:
Barb Honchak () vs Leslie Smith ()
Carla Esparza () vs Claudia Gadelha ()
Lauren Murphy () vs Miriam Nakamoto ()
Felice Herrig () vs Tecia Torres ()
Joanne Calderwood () vs Katja Kankaanpää ()
Julia Budd () vs Charmaine Tweet ()
Vanessa Porto () vs Zoila Gurgel ()

Prelims
Sarah D'Alelio () vs Tonya Evinger ()
Munah Holland () vs Nina Ansaroff ()

Background:
Invicta FC is the first serious attempt outside Japan to develop Women's MMA in its own league, and has concentrated by far the most top WMMA talent of any promotion to date, and done so across the five competitive weight divisions in WMMA. Even disregarding the women who recently left to compete on TUF 18, Invicta currently has under contract 23 of the 50 Top 10 ranked women in the Unified Women's Pro-MMA Rankings. Finally, Invicta's first six shows have all been generally excellent barring the first show's main-event, and Mauro Ranallo.

Originally planned for October and then November 2nd, Invicta 7 was pushed back as a result of scheduling conflicts and of original co-owner and match-maker Janet Martin having a falling out with the company. No, there probably wasn't any sex involved, it appears to have been an embezzling thing. As such Shannon Knapp is running the company almost single-handedly with several assistants.

Invicta 7 will be 9 fights with a 7-fight main-card headlined by a triple main-event with three title fights, a result of a fairly sparse schedule that supposedly will ramp up to 8-10 events next year. The top match is Iowan wrestler and medical student Barb Honchak making her first defense of the Flyweight title against former Top 10 Bantamweight Leslie "Diaz" Smith, a striker out of Cesar Gracie Jiu Jitsu who comes to gently caress poo poo up. The co-main features Strawweight Champion Carla Esparza returning after being out for nearly a year defending her title for the first time against Brazilian riot cop Claudia Gadelha. The other co-main is improbable Alaskan Lauren Murphy (nee Taylor) fighting Muay Thai World Champion Miriam Nakamoto for the Inaugural Bantamweight Title. Also on the card are arguably two more Title Eliminators and multiple debuts of high-profiles signings including Tonya Evinger, Felice Herrig, and Munah Holland. Not on the card is Thug Rose, so sorry 'bout that. Julie Kedzie will also be absent from announcing, since she will be in Australia the day before fighting for the UFC, and Mauro Ranallo, who has a scheduling conflict announcing boxing.

Announcing Team: Miesha Tate, King Mo Lawal, and Michael Schiavello
Ring Announcer: Joe Martinez

History of WMMA Female Empowerment Video

Invicta Female Empowerment Video

Short Invicta 7 Promo


Main Card:

Barb Honchak (8-2) vs. Leslie Smith (6-3-1)

Carla Esparza (9-2) vs. Claudia Gadelha (11-0)

Lauren Murphy (7-0) vs. Miriam Nakamoto (2-0, 1 NC)

Felice Herrig (9-4) vs. Tecia Torres (3-0) (7-0 amat.)

Joanne Calderwood (7-0) vs. Katja Kankaanpää (8-0-1)

Julia Budd (5-2) vs. Charmaine Tweet (4-3)

Vanessa Porto (15-6) vs. Zoila Gurgel (12-3)

Prelims:

Sarah D'Alelio (7-4) vs. Tonya Evinger (11-6)

Munah Holland (5-2) vs. Nina Ansaroff (5-3)

Chrom1um fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Dec 6, 2013

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
Invicta FC 7 GDT

^Thanks, Bean Fried!^

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!


Welp, guess I'll call it a wrap then.

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything
Some b-league news!


Ulysses Gomez hospitalized while cutting weight, Cage Warriors 62 headliner off.

Rumor is going around that Horwich landed in Poland looking like a hobo and was detained for 3 hours by the customs officer.

Holly Holm is close to signing with the UFC.

Leonard Garcia fights for a god drat title today.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

-Atom- posted:

Some b-league news!


Ulysses Gomez hospitalized while cutting weight, Cage Warriors 62 headliner off.

Rumor is going around that Horwich landed in Poland looking like a hobo and was detained for 3 hours by the customs officer.

Holly Holm is close to signing with the UFC.

Leonard Garcia fights for a god drat title today.

How in the name of God do you come off so bad the POLAND considers you to look like a hobo?

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

-Atom- posted:


Ulysses Gomez hospitalized while cutting weight, Cage Warriors 62 headliner off.


Gutted for him, but its bumped my mate Wes up to the main event!

coconono
Aug 11, 2004

KISS ME KRIS

Captain Log posted:

How in the name of God do you come off so bad the POLAND considers you to look like a hobo?

Its Horwich. He probably smelled like piss and was muttering about flying saucers.

Captain Log
Oct 2, 2006

Captain Log posted:

"I AINT DYING! Choo choo motherfucker!"
:toot::birddrugs::toot:

coconono posted:

Its Horwich. He probably smelled like piss and was muttering about flying saucers.

The fact that the Polish, a people so loving outrageously jaded by their treatment by the universe, deemed him hoboish is spectacular. I'm pretty sure you could snort a bunch of ketamine, throw your girlfriend down in the street, and gently caress while hooting like an owl and no one would care. The Polish completely don't give a gently caress.

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"

Captain Log posted:

The fact that the Polish, a people so loving outrageously jaded by their treatment by the universe, deemed him hoboish is spectacular. I'm pretty sure you could snort a bunch of ketamine, throw your girlfriend down in the street, and gently caress while hooting like an owl and no one would care. The Polish completely don't give a gently caress.

Noted crazy Polish sorta-MMA dude, Popek Rak agrees.

DumbWhiteGuy
Jul 4, 2007

You need haters. Fellas if you got 20 haters, you need 40 of them motherfuckers. If there's any haters in here that don't have nobody to hate on, feel free to hate on me

-Atom- posted:

Some b-league news!

Holly Holm is close to signing with the UFC.

This is cool and I hope it happens soon

1st AD
Dec 3, 2004

Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu: sometimes passing just isn't an option.
Miriam Nakomoto was offered a UFC contract but turned it down (which is smart because she'd get wrestlefucked by anybody), but if the UFC can sign Holly Holm they should try to get Miriam for a fight. Their styles should line up pretty well.

individual865
Mar 26, 2007

Life on the outside ain't what it used to be.
OPLOT TIME!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYsnzHrekvQ

Join us in #mma to discuss

Dangersim
Sep 4, 2011

:qq:He expended too much energy and got tired:qq:

I'M NOT SURPRISED MOTHERFUCKERS
:siren:COOL CHILD FIGHTS HAPPENING:siren:

ChampRamp
Mar 29, 2010

:siren: SAVE_US.CHR :siren:
NBC will air two WSOF shows in 2014. That's pretty cool.

Chrom1um
Dec 31, 2005
Come and join my doomsday cult!

ChampRamp posted:

NBC will air two WSOF shows in 2014. That's pretty cool.

I'm sorry but this just feels so wrong... what the gently caress sort of card could they possibly put together to justify this?

-Atom-
Sep 13, 2003

Contrarian Dick

Bad At Everything

Bean Fried posted:

I'm sorry but this just feels so wrong... what the gently caress sort of card could they possibly put together to justify this?

Are you suggesting that Jon Fitch isn't must see television

Bubba Smith
Sep 27, 2004

Is tonight the greatest moment in Dominick Cruz's life?

No.

The greatest moment in my life was realizing that I didn't need a belt to be happy.

ChampRamp posted:

NBC will air two WSOF shows in 2014. That's pretty cool.

This is good and makes me wonder why Askren didn't take the WSOF deal if they possibly mentioned this to him. He'd be a lock for at least one of those cards, probably as co-main but hey, that's still network TV.

WSOF owns and I hope Zuffa is secretly funding them and funds them forever

ch3cooh
Jun 26, 2006

LobsterMobster
Oct 29, 2009

"I was being quiet and trying to be a good boy but he dialed the right combination to open the throw-down vault and it was on."

"Walter Foxx is ten times brighter than your bulb at the bottom of the tree merry xmas"
WSoF 7 is tomorrow as well. But don't watch it, watch Invicta, instead

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
Fight Night was cool, I got to see Alistair's big bro tap to strikes.

Also Soukodjou is about to fight.

He's walking out to the lion king theme being sung live by a black lady in a tiger dress

That's not me being racist, this is reality

His opponent has an obese russian in a fur coat singing some opera poo poo while an entourage drags a sled w/ the fighter in it out to the cage.

Now that he's out to the cage, they're having some russian folk dancing to a cheerful piano tune



Soukodjou lost of course

Yuriy fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Dec 7, 2013

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
Cage Warriors and Oplot are both live right now.



Cage Warriors had a sick knee KO in their second fight and now has more wmma.

#mma for chit-chat

Yuriy
Dec 25, 2006

Pay no attention to me, for I am a stupid cunt.
Oplot has a 150kg guy about to fight, you wanted supper weights?

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

willie_dee posted:

Gutted for him, but its bumped my mate Wes up to the main event!

Dammit it can really suck knowing local fighters, they make 1 little mistake and next thing the have got Curt Warburton hanging off their back choking and cranking on their neck.

He seems to be OK about it, whilst recognising it was his career worst performance during his debut on a UK promotion :/

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DekeThornton
Sep 2, 2011

Be friends!
In case you haven't seen it Invicta has put the entire card from this weekend up on Youtube for free. If you haven't watched it you really should. Not their greatest card, but some pretty fun fights there. Torres is fantastic.

DekeThornton fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 9, 2013

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