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scifi thread yes hello there was some story or short story, i dont remember, about aliens trying to invade earth, but they have pretty primitive technology, like they use normal radio to communicate and use guns with bullets and i think basic 50s era nuclear power (i think they had some kind of much better propulsion)? and i think it was set in maybe the 70s or 80s so earth was just head of the curve on some of that stuff, so when the aliens tried poo poo earth was pretty well matched. or was this yet a fevered dream
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straight up chinese invasion fearmongering
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Dec 5, 2013 21:53
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:scifi thread yes hello was it Footfall?
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Dec 5, 2013 21:58
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infernal machines posted:was it Footfall? niven and pournelle, hoooooly poo poo that must be awkward to read
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Dec 5, 2013 22:03
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Cocoa Crispies posted:niven and pournelle, hoooooly poo poo that must be awkward to read theres a scene where the president convenes a top-secret meeting of americas leading science fiction authors to advise him on the alien invasion yeah
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Cocoa Crispies posted:niven and pournelle, hoooooly poo poo that must be awkward to read meh. it reads a lot like Lucifer's Hammer did (also a niven/pournelle joint). they're both pretty awkward on their own but they seem to work better together if there were any women in it i sure as hell don't remember
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Dec 5, 2013 22:07
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FMguru posted:its basically tom clancy fights space elephants president whitmore would have hated the idea they came up with (launching a space battleship with mini nukes for propulsion)
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Dec 5, 2013 22:08
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i looked up larry niven to remind myself of why larry niven is terrible, and wikipedia provided
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infernal machines posted:was it Footfall? no but that looks hilarious the thing im thinking of has aliens with 1950s level tech
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FMguru posted:its basically tom clancy fights space elephants oh yeah. i forgot about that part. they did that poo poo in Fallen Angels too. scifi con to the rescue of hunted astronauts. ffs
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Dec 5, 2013 22:09
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infernal machines posted:oh yeah. i forgot about that part.
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Dec 5, 2013 22:17
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FMguru posted:in its defense, fallen angels was literally written as a charity fundraiser where con-goers would donate money in exchange for appearing in the book. its just a silly little one-off to raise money for a worthy cause. i did not know that. that make a lot more sense now.
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Dec 5, 2013 22:18
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Trig Discipline posted:wanna see that again, primarily because i didn't fully get it the first time and because upstream color was SO loving GOOD it gets better every time you see it the only parts that are still confusing are with mr granger
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Dec 5, 2013 22:25
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also holy poo poo i knew it had a 7k budget but half of the film they shot was used in the movie
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Dec 5, 2013 22:27
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theflyingexecutive posted:also holy poo poo i knew it had a 7k budget that wouldnt even cover the cost of the ok yeh imdb says that too but still Adult Sword Owner fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 5, 2013 |
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Dec 5, 2013 22:29
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yeh i found an interview, besides the camera he had the poo poo already and made his friends and family drive around and do poo poo on their own dime its astonishing a good movie came out of these because thats some mst3k level film production
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Dec 5, 2013 22:38
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Yeah the 7k figure is entirely misleading and doesn't account for, well basically anything. Its impressive though that he guilted friends and family into making an whole feature and it turned out as well as it did. He did a pretty good job of building around all his limitations. Its almost more Dogme 95 than Dogme 95, and says gently caress you to their anti genre-film rules (good).
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:Its almost more Dogme 95 than Dogme 95, and says gently caress you to their anti genre-film rules (good).
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i have primer on my netflix list right now since i missed it when it first came out but i've been all flowers for algernon lately watched the first men in black again last night instead. painfully 90's, still pretty funny, rick baker rules all practical effects forever Heresiarch fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Cocoa Crispies posted:niven and pournelle, hoooooly poo poo that must be awkward to read pre: _.-"\
_.-" \ WON'T SOMEONE BE THE POURNELLE TO MY NIVEN ??!?!?
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( \ \ THAT IS TO SAY WON'T SOMEONE BE THE LESS TALENTED
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\ \ \ ALTHOUGH NUTTY KEEPS MY PIE-EYED SOCIALIST
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Dec 6, 2013 00:32
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mote in god's eye is the best pournelle/niven book
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FMguru posted:tom clancy fights space elephants you say that like that's supposed to be a reason to not read it
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reply is not edit Christ I haven't done that in years
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haveblue posted:you say that like that's supposed to be a reason to not read it
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There definitely is a short story with a similar premise, I know what DiD is talking about but I can't recall the name. The idea was that an alien invasion fleet shows up in basically wooden ships with all sorts of old crappy tech, basically age of exploration stuff except for the fact that they have some kind of field bubble generator that lets them travel between stars/in a vacuum that is supposedly very very basic and they're shocked that we haven't discovered it despite having otherwise far more advanced technology. here it is thanks google http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road_Not_Taken_%28short_story%29 MANIFEST DESTINY fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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MANIFEST DESTINY posted:There definitely is a short story with a similar premise, I know what DiD is talking about but I can't recall the name. The idea was that an alien invasion fleet shows up in basically wooden ships with all sorts of old crappy tech, basically age of exploration stuff except for the fact that they have some kind of field bubble generator that lets them travel between stars/in a vacuum that is supposedly very very basic and they're shocked that we haven't discovered it despite having otherwise far more advanced technology. that sounds pretty turtledove-ish, gonna read the heck out of it
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Dec 6, 2013 01:22
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here's a pastebin of the road not taken http://pastebin.com/aJQfubrK it's short; read it
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ol qwerty bastard posted:here's a pastebin of the road not taken http://pastebin.com/aJQfubrK
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Dec 6, 2013 02:18
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oh wow i've been trying to remember what that story was for ages, found footfall a while ago but yeah that sure as poo poo wasn't it thx for posting, fun story, cant wait for jj abrams to make a movie based on it
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Dec 6, 2013 02:56
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:no but that looks hilarious It's not Harry Turtledove's Worldwar series was it? 
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ol qwerty bastard posted:here's a pastebin of the road not taken http://pastebin.com/aJQfubrK i liked this, fun story
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Dec 6, 2013 03:33
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Dead Inside Darwin posted:that wouldnt even cover the cost of the it was 16mm, so not much even if they already had it
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it makes me resentful of sci fi that thinks it needs hundreds of millions of dollars to tell a good story, but lol if thats what most of them are trying to do also they consulted carruth for looper but they ignored him and had bruce willis tell the audience to not worry about it
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theflyingexecutive posted:also they consulted carruth for looper but they ignored him and had bruce willis tell the audience to not worry about it i liked primer but that was probably a good choice for looper
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niven is a pretty crap author but he did an essay-like thing called "theory and practice of time travel" which had a fun bit of pseudo-logic in it using sf time travel ideas if time travel is possible, there's a single timeline, and it's possible to change history, then there will be endless and constant changes to timelines as people use the technology and mess with history eventually, a timeline will occur in which nobody ever invents time travel in the first place. this timeline will then never change, and is probably the one we're living in
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if history were constantly being changed how would anyone know? for all you know you remembered a different history of the world five seconds ago and will remember a different one five seconds from now (maybe he addresses this, never read it)
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wouldn't there never be any changes to the timeline ever because of closed causality loops?
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Dec 6, 2013 04:32
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"changes" aren't really changes because if someone in the future makes the "change" it would have already happened, and in fact would always have happened all attempts at changing the past fail, we know this because the events we want to change happened. I know this is only one time travel model, and that the one in primer works on a different, multiple convergent timeline model, but the single time line is more appealing to me for some reason.
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Reminder that Niven also wrote: http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html
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raruler posted:mote in god's eye is the best pournelle/niven book
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