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Bigass Moth posted:Rob Conway rules I don't disagree.
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Bigass Moth posted:Rob Conway rules but the NWA title has been largely meaningless indy fodder for 20 years at this point. Not to mention the WCW and NWA title lineage split before WCW went under. Hell, the WWF ran an angle involving the NWA.
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Dec 7, 2013 23:26
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Thauros posted:Not to mention the WCW and NWA title lineage split before WCW went under. Hell, the WWF ran an angle involving the NWA. Don't you dare slander Bombastic Bob and Bodacious Bart.
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Dec 7, 2013 23:34
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Bigass Moth posted:Rob Conway rules but the NWA title has been largely meaningless indy fodder for 20 years at this point. It is fascinating reading the title history on Wikipedia, tracing what happened to it after WCW broke off. I remember the brief WWF/NWA co-promotion with Severn as NWA champ, but I don't believe I heard anything else until TNA got exclusive rights to the title.
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Dec 8, 2013 01:17
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One of the reasons you can't even really get the NWA title lineage to the WCW unification match in 1994 is that WCW themselves hosed up having the WCW International World bullshit as the linear NWA title when Rick Rude vacated the title right before the unification.
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Dec 8, 2013 01:20
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VogeGandire posted:Don't you dare slander Bombastic Bob and Bodacious Bart.
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Endorph posted:Wasn't it Bombastic Bart and Bodacious Bob? Nope. It's bombastic Bob and Bodacious Bart. The T's are separate is how I always remembered it
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Dec 8, 2013 02:07
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I Before E posted:I haven't noticed any desync problems on my copy. I've got the same desync problems he was talking about so I guess it was a certain run or something.
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Dec 8, 2013 02:50
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What went wrong with Ultimo Dragon's run in the WWE? Shouldn't that have been a foolproof slam dunk? Was it just another case of the WWE never really knowing how to handle foreign talent, or was there more to it?
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Delsaber posted:What went wrong with Ultimo Dragon's run in the WWE? Shouldn't that have been a foolproof slam dunk? Was it just another case of the WWE never really knowing how to handle foreign talent, or was there more to it? Combination of him having lost a step by the time he got there, a lack of reactions, Vince being impulsive beyond sanity, and also hating cruiserweights. The original plan was to do Rey vs Dragon, posisbly at WM, IIRC.
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Delsaber posted:What went wrong with Ultimo Dragon's run in the WWE? Shouldn't that have been a foolproof slam dunk? Was it just another case of the WWE never really knowing how to handle foreign talent, or was there more to it? Did they even have him do anything? I only remember him being in the Cruserweight gauntlet at Wrestlemania 20 and winning the Royal Rumble in my playthrough of Smackdown Here Comes the Pain season mode.
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Did they even have him do anything? I only remember him being in the Cruserweight gauntlet at Wrestlemania 20 and winning the Royal Rumble in my playthrough of Smackdown Here Comes the Pain season mode. I remember his finish was a standing Shiranui, which was kind of cool, if silly.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The original plan was to do Rey vs Dragon, posisbly at WM, IIRC. Didn't they give this away on Smackdown?
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getitoffgetitoff posted:Did they even have him do anything? I only remember him being in the Cruserweight gauntlet at Wrestlemania 20 and winning the Royal Rumble in my playthrough of Smackdown Here Comes the Pain season mode. He was a useful part of the neat little Cruiserweight scene Velocity was putting on every week back then, though!
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The Prisoner posted:Tajiri interfered for some reason. Tajiri was plotting something nefarious. Feel free to use this to explain anything Tajiri has ever done in the past, present or future.
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Jerusalem posted:Tajiri was plotting something nefarious. Anyhow, that was the closest they ever got to doing anything with Dragon.
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Shame, I really think Dragon could've been big in the WWE with just a bare minimum of extra effort and confidence from creative. Did he at least continue to have a decent career back in Japan afterwards?Jerusalem posted:Tajiri was plotting something nefarious. Whoever he operated on while posing as a surgeon must've gotten hosed up.
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Delsaber posted:Whoever he operated on while posing as a surgeon must've gotten hosed up. When Tajiri's wife was walking down the aisle, she was looking at him through her veil and thinking,"This sonofabitch is up to something."
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Combination of him having lost a step by the time he got there, a lack of reactions, Vince being impulsive beyond sanity, and also hating cruiserweights. The original plan was to do Rey vs Dragon, posisbly at WM, IIRC. The story I'd heard was that the reason behind Ultimo Dragon's run was that he had decided that his career wouldn't be complete without a Wrestlemania appearance, and WWE was happy to accommodate him.
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Jerusalem posted:When Tajiri's wife was walking down the aisle, she was looking at him through her veil and thinking,"This sonofabitch is up to something." Tajiri, standing at the altar, waiting for his opportunity to kick the priest in the head.
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Dec 8, 2013 11:00
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To answer the earlier question, I was really happy when Cena came back and won the WHC. He could stop dominating the main event and just have fun midcard programs and sell merch and have pretty good matches without killing the pushes of everybody who was starting to get over. It was exactly the right place for him right now, and it lasted exactly one pay-per-view. That being said, I think many shared my sentiments as the boos for the guy have dropped off, and his promo on Monday is one of my favorites he's ever given, largely because I think there was some truth to it. I really do think he resents that Orton was picked as The Guy over him, even though he clearly went on to become The Guy.
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How much of Cena's better reception since his return from injury is due to people being so fed up with Orton, realistically speaking?
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Aurain posted:How much of Cena's better reception since his return from injury is due to people being so fed up with Orton, realistically speaking? Not a lot, he's stepped up his game a lot in the ring, was putting on legitimately fun to watch matches, and had nothing to DO with Orton. I mean a better comparison would have been ADR but that didn't change anything. He didn't replace Orton on TV or join his program until right now, he did his own thing. I mean if he had replaced Orton as WWE Champion, you may have a point. But Orton was still there, doing his thing in all the spots he did his thing. If you mean "How much of the better reception is he getting now due to people being so fed up with Orton they would rather see him unify the belts" That might be a fair bit.
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Onmi posted:Not a lot, he's stepped up his game a lot in the ring, was putting on legitimately fun to watch matches, and had nothing to DO with Orton. yeah I'm glad that guy who had several of the best WWE matches of the year finally stepped up
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Dec 8, 2013 18:46
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Q: What determines if a non-major PPV gets a Blu-Ray release or not? Looking back, the 2012 TLC show was actually pretty good, and I wouldn't mind dropping ~$10 on a Blu-Ray of the show. The only available release is a British one, though. Blu-Ray.com doesn't say if it works in a US player, though. What the hell?
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Has anyone won the Tag Team titles with more different partners with Kane? It seems like he had a tag team run with a partner every other year.
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Sprint posted:Has anyone won the Tag Team titles with more different partners with Kane? It seems like he had a tag team run with a partner every other year. No, Kane's got the record I think, but he actually JUST took the lead in that race when he won the belts with Bryan. Before that he was tied with Edge.
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IronCladBurrito posted:No, Kane's got the record I think, but he actually JUST took the lead in that race when he won the belts with Bryan. Before that he was tied with Edge. Wasn't he also actually "the tag team champions" around 2002?
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Delsaber posted:What went wrong with Ultimo Dragon's run in the WWE? Shouldn't that have been a foolproof slam dunk? Was it just another case of the WWE never really knowing how to handle foreign talent, or was there more to it? The run was more for him than it was for WWE. He sought them out for a deal, got it, three of his clauses in his contract upon signing was he wanted to wrestle at Wrestlemania, wrestle in MSG, and get more focus on the cruiserweight division. The first two, they clearly gave him, the third one is such a judgment call, but WWE has their mentality when it comes to guys who aren't white and not at least 6'1".
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Red posted:Q: What determines if a non-major PPV gets a Blu-Ray release or not? Looking back, the 2012 TLC show was actually pretty good, and I wouldn't mind dropping ~$10 on a Blu-Ray of the show. The only available release is a British one, though. Blu-Ray.com doesn't say if it works in a US player, though. From looking at Amazon, the UK blu-ray releases are coded to region B2 which is Europe. The dvd releases all used to be region 0 though, so not entirely sure why they started region locking the blu-rays.
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VogeGandire posted:Tajiri, standing at the altar, waiting for his opportunity to kick the priest in the head. You may mist the bride.
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John Cena posted:The run was more for him than it was for WWE. He sought them out for a deal, got it, three of his clauses in his contract upon signing was he wanted to wrestle at Wrestlemania, wrestle in MSG, and get more focus on the cruiserweight division. The first two, they clearly gave him, the third one is such a judgment call, but WWE has their mentality when it comes to guys who aren't white and not at least 6'1". Then he tripped on the stage because he was too giddy to get out there.
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Cardboard Box posted:yeah I'm glad that guy who had several of the best WWE matches of the year finally stepped up Remember I only returned to wrestling after Summerslam I've been out for a while.
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What were the reasons behind Verne Gagne not wanting to put the title on Hogan? And is the thing about asking Hogan to marry his daughter real?
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Red posted:What were the reasons behind Verne Gagne not wanting to put the title on Hogan? Gagne was a "wrestling" guy, and as such, didn't think Hogan had what it took in that regard. There was also arguments about payoffs, specifically with Gagne wanting a cut of Hogan's Japan pay. I believe Hogan also claimed Gagne wanted him to marry Gagne's daughter. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 03:49 on Dec 9, 2013 |
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Red posted:What were the reasons behind Verne Gagne not wanting to put the title on Hogan? If he put the belt on Hogan he would have lost his champion to Vince and Hogan toured Japan with NJPW while Gagne was alligned with AJPW. The main thing is once Hogan got hot it was not a secret Vince was eyeing him, and it would have been bad news to make him THE GUY.
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Is there any reason why Guerrero's name was consistently spelled Eddy in WCW and Eddie in WWE?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Gagne was a "wrestling" guy, and as such, didn't think Hogan had what it took in that regard. There was also arguments about payoffs, specifically with Gagne wanting a cut of Hogan's Japan pay. I believe Hogan also claimed Gagne wanted him to marry Gagne's daughter. I could believe the rest of this post, from what I've heard about Gagne. But honestly, that last bit sounds like typical Hogan aggrandizement and made me  pretty hard. Why, if Gagne doesn't think Hogan "has it", would he want to have the man as his son-in-law?
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I was rewatching the latest OSW Review in which they go into the history of WCW and it got me wondering: who made out the best from the whole WCW fiasco? Many folks made great money while there, but I can't think of anyone that really came out of it especially well aside from maybe DDP, Savage and Hogan (before he lost it all).
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