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ElTipejoLoco
Feb 27, 2013

Let me fix your avisynth scripts! It'll only take me a couple horus.

vibratingsheep posted:

edit: Friendly Googling in Japanese says that this song is from Gradius. If anyone wants to post the performance on Youtube, I can send you my raw footage and the appropriate time stamps. I don't have the time to do it myself!
I'd like to take you up on this and give trimming, captioning (assuming the availability of time stamps imply that the song has lyrics or the like), and uploading the video a shot. What would your preferred method of contact be for this sort of thing?
Also, I'm a little sad that we're missing out on less informative and wacky shenanigans, such as finding out what girls can stand watching Street Fighter: The Movie or not being kept in the dark about Tatebayashi Miharu's nature as a purely RNG determined stalker character.
Not sad enough that I'd want that to be what the next poll's about, but still. Such missed opportunities.

FractalSandwich posted:

I don't know exactly what it is in Japanese, and I don't know anything about Dangan Ronpa, but to me "super-high-school-level x" just reads as an (intentionally?) silly way of saying, "a way better x than you'd expect to find in high school". At first blush, I'd assume that it's a fairly normal-sounding phrase in Japanese and whatever translation of Dangan Ronpa exists just went in a weird direction with it. Is that not the case?
Orenronen's LP of DR was littered with translation and cultural notes as well, 'localization' efforts picking up later on aside, and checking the archived version:

orenronen posted:

Pretty much everything related to Hope's Peak Academy gets the prefix "chou-" (超〜), which means "super-", "extra-", "ultra-", etc. I try to translate it consistently as "super-". Much like in English, it sounds ridiculous most of the time in the original language as well.
Edit: Emphasis.

ElTipejoLoco fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Dec 9, 2013

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FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010
That doesn't really answer the question. In addition to having the same informal meaning as "super-" (etc.) it also has the same literal meaning as those things: "beyond", like in "superluminal" or "hyperspace".

FractalSandwich fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Dec 9, 2013

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Gyre posted:

As a side question, most Japanese are surveyed as being areligious. When they go to shrines do they actually expect any result from their prayers or is it just a purely social-ritual thing?

EDIT: Same thing with ghost stories. In Japanese media people seem to universally believe in stuff like that, which seems very odd given their religious views.

Tradition, probably. The same could be asked of why people celebrate Christmas without being Christian, though this is on a bigger scale. In most Japanese works I've seen, these types of things all seem more for fun or superstition then as a serious religious ceremony.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

The_Frag_Man posted:

Would you tell us about your experiences with the translation business? You're doing a great job and keeping a great pace.
Are you a native english speaker? Do you know any additional languages? How long have you been learning?
It seems pretty interesting to me.

What do you think of Atlus keeping the honorifics in the modern Persona games?

I'm a native English speaker, and grew up speaking Vietnamese at home. My written Vietnamese is awful, and I never graduated from babytalk.

I started teaching myself Japanese when I was 15 through voice-and-text-at-the-same-time games like Tokimeki Memorial and Sakura Taisen (primarily the Sakura Taisen games; I spent two entire summers playing those games). At the same time, I also helped out in the fansubbing community by helping out with timing and editing. Once I made it to college, I took an additional two years of formal Japanese training. I'd consider myself conversant and far from fluent, though I keep my conversational and reading skills in practice.

My personal experience with the translation/localization business isn't the greatest. For a lot of the games that have bad translations, the Japanese company spends a lot of money hiring a localization agency in Japan that is only nominally better than machine translation. Then, when that agency's output hits native speakers and comes back with bad reviews, cognitive dissonance kicks in and they think "We spent so much money on this translation, our foreign branch has to be wrong, not this agency we hired". It's an uphill fight from there.

It was so ridiculous that I actually got fired shortly after complaining about it, and left the games industry for a few years.

I have nothing but respect for the Nambas, Mai and Yu, who do great work at Atlus. I am totally not saying this because Mai is an old friend of my best friend's wife, Miho.

ElTipejoLoco posted:

I'd like to take you up on this and give trimming, captioning (assuming the availability of time stamps imply that the song has lyrics or the like), and uploading the video a shot. What would your preferred method of contact be for this sort of thing?

No, the song doesn't have lyrics. It's the theme from Gradius.

When I play TokiMemo for this LP, I record myself playing and go straight through (for "constantly reloading" definitions of "straight through"). Then I go back and use the locally recorded video for screenshots and also for an accurate record of everything I did.

The Concert Band's performance counts as about 2 minutes of a 1:30:00 MP4, so if you want me to send it to you via Dropbox or something, I can tell you when it starts and when it ends so you can trim it and upload it properly.


Waffleman_ posted:

In fact, the crossover movies for this year's Sentai, Kyoryuger, and Rider, Gaim, are coming out in Japan in about a week.

Thanks. There are so many drat franchises with annual or semiannual movies these days that it's impossible to keep track of them all.

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Dec 9, 2013

ElTipejoLoco
Feb 27, 2013

Let me fix your avisynth scripts! It'll only take me a couple horus.

vibratingsheep posted:

When I play TokiMemo for this LP, I record myself playing and go straight through (for "constantly reloading" definitions of "straight through"). Then I go back and use the locally recorded video for screenshots and also for an accurate record of everything I did.

The Concert Band's performance counts as about 2 minutes of a 1:30:00 MP4, so if you want me to send it to you via Dropbox or something, I can tell you when it starts and when it ends so you can trim it and upload it properly.
Ah, I see. If I'm going to be trimming the raw footage I'm probably going to end up finding out where the concert is by searching for the specific frames and the like, but having the start and end time stamps does help speed that up.

I'm a little curious as to whether or not the concert performance would not be better served as a tindeck link and an animated gif, assuming there's not a lot of variety to the animation. Unless they did some sort of dynamic soundtrack thing where the music and animations reflect moments where the performance goes awry? No clue.

Anyway, my Skype username's the same as my SA one, you can send me the Dropbox link through there and I'll get to it. I forget if Dropbox uploads have limited bandwidth.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

vibratingsheep posted:

I'm a native English speaker, and grew up speaking Vietnamese at home. My written Vietnamese is awful, and I never graduated from babytalk.

At least you didn't completely forget an entire language after entering elementary school. :downs:

I'm also enjoying the culture notes. Most of my knowledge regarding Japanese culture is of the utterly hosed up bits, so it's nice to see the more mundane parts too.

quote:

Then, when that agency's output hits native speakers and comes back with bad reviews, cognitive dissonance kicks in and they think "We spent so much money on this translation, our foreign branch has to be wrong, not this agency we hired". It's an uphill fight from there.

Ah yes, the "we didn't suck, you guys did" excuse. The bane of all foreign audiences.

How many resets do you estimate you'll have at the end? At the rate you're going now I'd assume you'll end with around 50, but it sounds like things are going to heat up soon.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



BlitzBlast posted:

How many resets do you estimate you'll have at the end? At the rate you're going now I'd assume you'll end with around 50, but it sounds like things are going to heat up soon.

We're about 1/4 through the game here (about two thirds of the first school year of three), and the risk of bombs etc. will probably rise the further along we get. So more like 100 I think.
(Anyone taking bets?)

Raitzeno
Nov 24, 2007

What? It seemed like
a good idea at the time.

My money's on... :rolldice: let's go with 127 resets.

SporkOfTruth
Sep 1, 2006

this kid walked up to me and was like man schmitty your stache is ghetto and I was like whatever man your 3b look like a dishrag.

he was like damn.

vibratingsheep posted:

Prayers for healthy children, traffic safety, good grades, and, if you go to the shrines I do, baseball championships are very common.

Let me guess, Nishinomiya, home of the most sacred infield dirt known to man high school students wearing ballcaps with weirdly bent brims?

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Yep. There's a small shrine hidden behind Koushien which is ostensibly dedicated to Susano-o and traffic safety, but is so wholly dedicated to baseball that the stones of the shrine include a home plate.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

vibratingsheep posted:

Thanks. There are so many drat franchises with annual or semiannual movies these days that it's impossible to keep track of them all.

If any other tokusatsu references come up in the LP, I'm the man to talk to!

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
Can the later games in the series synthesize text-to-speech for player names?

If so, we should name the MC as close to "Somethingawful Goon" as possible and see what it sounds like.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

sincx posted:

Can the later games in the series synthesize text-to-speech for player names?

If so, we should name the MC as close to "Somethingawful Goon" as possible and see what it sounds like.

サムシングアーフル グーン

Samushinguaafuru Guun

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

sincx posted:

Can the later games in the series synthesize text-to-speech for player names?

If so, we should name the MC as close to "Somethingawful Goon" as possible and see what it sounds like.

Game 2 attempted an "Emotional Voice System", or EVS - I'll post a video of it in action. It's... it's pretty awful.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.
Chapter 8: Spring 1996, Walking the Tightrope

1995 was pretty good to our young Goon. His grades went up, Shiori started to notice him, and he was handsome enough to pass the Ijuuin family's standards. Miraculously, he pulled Shiori's present from the pile (what are the odds? One in thirteen, it turns out) and the next year is going to be critical in his road to finding love and Utter Perfection. That Yang Guo mask is starting to slip off, though - Mad Bomber Megumi is now in the mix, and that means a few less Sundays a year to build stats.

From this point on, the critical juggling act is to balance social obligations while focusing on making Shiori happy and still building those last few stats toward Shiori's exacting standards. It's not bad with only three characters met so far, but Saki is still yet to enter the mix, and Mad Bomber Yumi lurks just around the corner as well...


1/8-1/13: (New semester starts!) Concert Band
1/14 (Sunday): Sleep
1/15 (holiday): Study lit
1/16-1/20: Concert Band

1/18: Event!


Goon: (It's after school. I have a bad feeling about this...)
(thud)
Girl: I'm sorry!
Goon: Could you cut that out?
Girl: Oh no! I'm going to be late!
Goon: What the hell is her deal? Is she staging these crashes for insurance fraud or something?

I feel like playing Saints Row now. I just imagine Yuuko running around hitting the Ragdoll Physics button and I start laughing.

1/21 (Sunday): Exercise
1/22-1/27: Concert Band

1/24: New event!


Goon: (Man, I'm tired today. I should hurry home.)
Goon: (Oh hey, Mikihara-san's right over there.)
Goon: Hey, Mikihara-san!
Megumi: Oh! Fudou-san. Are you headed home?

Option 1: Want to walk together?
Option 2: Yes. Goodbye!


DANGER GOON ROBINSON! DANGER GOON ROBINSON! CHOOSE OPTION TWO

Megumi: Oh. Goodbye.

oh god oh god oh god

1/27: Praised by Shiori for a perfect week

See previous posts; it's the exact same event. Awesome, though! Let's call her up, we should make sure to keep that affection high. We just had a great week, what could possibly go wrong?

1/28: Call Shiori

Goon: Want to go to the shopping district on 2/11?
Shiori: Let me check... I'm sorry, I'm busy that day. I wish I could go, but...
Goon: D, don't worry about it. I don't mind.
Shiori: We'll try and make it work next time, okay?

RELOAD COUNT: 23

1/22-1/27: Concert Band
1/28: Call Shiori


Goon: Want to go to the zoo on 2/12?
Shiori: Let me check... yes, that's fine.
Goon: Alright, let's meet in front of the zoo on that day.
Shiori: Yes, let's. Don't forget, okay?
Goon: No way will I forget. Okay, talk to you later.
(click)
Goon: Yes! I can't wait for the 12th.

1/29-2/3: Sleep
2/4 (Sunday): Read Memorial Spot, then study lit


Memorial Spot March/April/May
The stadium is finished!

Movie: Fungaa! (Horror) (Fungaa is the noise Frankenstein's Monster makes in Japanese - you might remember this if you've ever read or seen Princess Resurrection. That makes this movie the 1994 Frankenstein.)
Concert: Koudama Riko (idol) Kouda Mariko was a popular singer and voice actress at this time. Amusingly, she appears as one of the main characters of Mitsumete Knight, a 1998 fantasy-themed follow-up to Tokimeki Memorial. It didn't really take off, but it wasn't for a lack of talent thrown at it.
Stadium: March - Pro Wrestling
April - Baseball
May - Baseball
Events: The cherry blossoms will be in full bloom at Kirameki Central Park
The dolphin show is starting at the aquarium!

Goon: (The stadium's finished? Oh, and in free mouse mode I can press L2 to grab on to icons.)

Sadly, the advent of the stadium means that there isn't room on this for Konami game ads.

2/5-2/10: :science:
2/11 (Sunday): Preen
2/12 (holiday): Date with Shiori

Goon: (Today's my date with Shiori. I should go wait for her in front of the zoo.)


Goon: Have you been waiting long?
Shiori: No, I just got here myself.
Goon: Phew, glad I wasn't late.
Shiori: Let's go in!
Goon: Yeah, let's go.


Shiori: That koala is really cute, isn't it?

Option 1: Yeah, it really is cute.
Option 2: But its eyes are creepy.
Option 3: It's really, unbelievably ugly.


Yuina is the only character who doesn't like the koala. It's complicated. But for Shiori, 1 is the right answer.

Shiori: Yeah, I'm glad you think so too.
Goon: (Looks like I made a great impression!)
Shiori: Today was a lot of fun. We should do this again some time, okay?
Goon: Definitely. I'll call you again some time.
Shiori: We should head home, Gunpei-kun.

2/13-2/18: :science:

2/14: Valentine's Day!

Valentine's Day has been adopted by a surprisingly large portion of Asia, largely thanks to the widespread influence of Japanese candy companies. Japan, Korea, China, and Taiwan have found it so successful and profitable that they've separated out days for girls giving guys chocolate (Valentine's Day, 2/14) and for guys giving girls some other kind of confection (White Day, 3/14) in order to extend the candy-buying season.

There are two important kinds of chocolate given on these days: 義理チョコ/Giri Chocolate, which is given to friends out of a sense of obligation, and 本命チョコ/Honmei Chocolate, which is given out of love and affection. The difference between these two kinds of chocolate is mostly determined by intent, but you can also tell which is which by the amount of effort that went into it. Homemade chocolate made just for you? Possibly in the shape of a heart? Honmei Choco. A bunch of Hershey's Kisses and she asks you to pick one or two you like? Giri choco. Really expensive assortment? Honmei choco. And so on, and so forth.

There are other kinds of chocolate given to family members and given as simple thank-yous, but they aren't relevant in the TokiMemoverse, so we'll ignore them.



Rei: Hello and good morning.
Goon: What do you want, Ijuuin?
Rei: Today is Valentine's Day, is it not? I could not possibly hope to equal you, but I did receive some paltry amount of chocolates.
Rei: Observe for yourself, that is all I have managed.


Goon: ...
Rei: Of course this would never happen, but should you find your own bag empty at the end of the day, you need but give me the word.
Goon: Why?
Rei: I will spare you a small portion of my own. Well then, I must go.
Rei: Haaaaahaha...!
Goon: ...


Shiori: Gunpei-kun! Here, I got you some chocolate.
Goon: Oh, thanks!
Goon: (It's pretty small. I guess it's giri chocolate...)


Yuina: Gunpei-kun. This is chocolate.
Goon: Hi-Himoo-san, you're giving me some? Thanks!
Yuina: Please submit a report on any symptoms or side effects you may experience. Now if you'll excuse me...
Goon: Wh...what the hell did she put in this?


Megumi: Umm, uh... please... accept this.
Goon: Th...thanks!
Megumi: And um... goodbye...
Goon: (This is giri chocolate, probably)

Goon: (I got this many, I should count myself lucky.)

2/18 (Sunday): Sleep
2/19-2/24: :science:
2/25 (Sunday): Call Shiori

Shiori: Yes, this is Fujisaki.
Goon: Um... this is Fudo Gunpei.
Shiori: Fudou-kun? What's up today?

This part of the conversation has now changed slightly. This means we've accumulated a good amount of points. Yaaaaay! I'll make a note if and when this part of the conversation changes again.

Goon: Want to go to Kirameki Central Park on 3/10?
Shiori: Let me check... I'm sorry, I'm busy that day. I wish I could go, but...
Goon: D, don't worry about it. I don't mind.
Shiori: We'll try and make it work next time, okay?

...But not enough points, it seems.

RELOAD COUNT: 24

2/19-2/24: :science:
2/25: Call Shiori

Goon: Want to go to Kirameki Central Park on 3/17?
Shiori: Let me check... yes, that's fine.
Goon: Alright, let's meet in front of the park on that day.
Shiori: Yes, let's. Don't forget, okay?
Goon: No way will I forget. Okay, talk to you later.
(click)
Goon: Yes! I can't wait for the 17th.

2/26-3/2: Concert Band
3/3 (Sunday): Sleep
3/4-3/9: Finals


A great way to end our first year! But wait, wasn't there something about lying low we had to worry about...?


Nah, must be my imagination.

3/10 (Sunday): Call Yoshio

Somewhere in all that reloading, I lost the path where I called about Megumi. So, this is the time to ask again. Just in case.

Girl's voice: Yes, this is the Saotome residence.
Goon: Is Yoshio-kun home?
Girl's voice: Oh, you want to talk to my brother?
(the sound of running)
Girl's voice: Onii-chaaaan! Phone call!
Yoshio: Yes, this is Saotome.
Goon: Hello? It's Fudou.
Yoshio: Oh. It's you.
Goon: What's with tone of voice? Are you sad that I called you?
Yoshio: Don't ask stupid questions.
Yoshio: So what'd you call for?
Goon: I'd like to know what the girls think of me.
Yoshio: What they think of you, eh? Gimme a second.
Yoshio: What the girls think of you is...


MEGUMI HOW DID YOU JUMP PAST SHIORI AND YUINA PLEASE NO

3/11-3/16: Concert Band
3/17: New event!


Goon: (Man, I am exhausted. I should hurry home.)
Goon: (Oh hey, that's Shiori over there.)
Goon: Hey, Shiori!
Shiori: Oh, Gunpei-kun. Are you heading home?
Goon: Yeah. Want to walk home together?
Shiori: Okay. We live right next to each other, after all. Let's walk together.

Our first success at this event! Once again, that's a good sign - it means we've accumulated even more points.

Goon: Okay, let's move.
Game: And so...


Shiori: Oh by the way, do you remember that my birthday's coming up?
Goon: Of course I remember it.
Shiori: Really? That's great.
Goon: (And, while talking about stuff like that, we walked home from school.)

Hmm. It feels like we're forgetting something, though. Something important. Some reason why Shiori didn't want to walk home with us before.

Nah, must be my imagination.

3/13: New event!

Goon: (Man, I am exhausted. I should hurry home.)


Megumi: Oh, Fudou-san!
Goon: Mikihara-san? What's going on?
Megumi: Um... could we... um... walk home together?

Option 1: Sure! Let's go home together.
Option 2: It'd be kinda embarrassing, so I'll pass.


DANGER GOON ROBINSON. DANGER GOON ROBINSON. THIS EVENT HAS CHANGED TOO. FLEE. LEAVE THE COUNTRY IF NECESSARY.


Megumi: (sniffle) E...excuse me, I have to go!
Goon: (She was nice enough to wait around for me, and I just acted so rude...)

REE REE REE REE REE REE

3/14: Event!

Here comes White Day! This is where the guys are supposed to return the favors of the girls who gave them gifts on Valentine's Day. According to tradition (and, more importantly, good marketing), guys are supposed to give gifts that are about three times the value of what they received, and they tend not to be chocolates. Cookies, cakes, etc. are common on White Day.

And, did you know that Korea's trying to popularize Black Day on April 14th, where single people are supposed to gather together and eat black bean noodles to "celebrate" their singleness? Yeah, it hasn't quite caught on yet. Give it time. And marketing.



Rei: Hello and good morning.
Goon: What do you want, Ijuuin?
Rei: White Day must be as rough for you as it is for me.
Goon: Why?
Rei: I sent out my servants this morning to deliver all of these thank-yous and gifts, and yet it appears as though all of their deliveries will still not be completed within the day.
Goon: ....
Rei: You would never be so uncouth as to leave a favor unrepaid, would you?
Goon: I have all of them right here.
Rei: Oh? I would never believe that you would have anyone to give such gifts to. Well - work with what little you have.
Goon: ....

Goon: (Okay, I should calm down and go hand out my thank-yous for Valentine's Day.)
Goon: (Actually, I did splurge on one special gift.)
Goon: So, who should I give this special little thank-you?

There are 3 choices displayed, but only one matters.

Goon: (Oh, Shiori's here. Good timing.)
Goon: Hey, Shiori!


Shiori: Is something the matter today?
Goon: Here, take this. As thanks for Valentine's Day.
Shiori: What, for me? Thank you.
Goon: (She seemed pretty happy.)

3/17 (Sunday): Date with Shiori

Goon: (Today's my date with Shiori. I should go wait for her in front of the park.)


Goon: Have you been waiting long?
Shiori: No, I just got here myself.
Goon: Phew, glad I wasn't late.
Shiori: Shall we take a walk?
Goon: Let's head down the park avenue.
Shiori: Let's go!


Shiori: The weather's so nice, want to sit on the grass?
Goon: Sounds good.


Shiori: Now that I've taken a good look, doesn't this seem like that one park from when we were kids?
Goon: What do you mean?
Shiori: Don't you remember? One time, we ran off to a big park without telling our parents where we were going.
Goon: Did that really happen?
Shiori: It did! I remember every detail.
Goon: Like?
Shiori: Like, one of us almost fell in this big pond...
Goon: A big pond? Oh yeah, I remember now! That was me.
Shiori: See? You remember it too.
Goon: I almost fell in, but some old guy saved me. I seriously thought I was gonna die.
Goon: Come to think of it, where were you?


Shiori: I was so scared that I just stood there and watched... I think.
Goon: You could've helped out a little..
Shiori: Can't you let it go? It's just a memory now.
Goon: I guess it's too late to be angry.
Goon: But yeah, this place does feel nostalgic.
Shiori: There sure is a lot to remember...
Goon: Yeah.

Whew. Doesn't that seem like an unusually long conversation? That's because it is! This is one of Shiori's unique events which comes with its own custom picture; you have to go to Central Park with her in spring to see it. There are 7 more of these events in the game for Shiori - three occur on dates in specific seasons at specific locations, two happen on normal school days, and two of them require certain conditions to be met on holidays. Utter Perfection demands that we see all 8...


Shiori: Today was a lot of fun. We should do this again some time, okay?
Goon: Definitely. I'll call you again soon.
Shiori: We should head home, Gunpei-kun.

If you're having so much fun, stop costing us Sundays and forcing us to reload every time you shoot us down! :bang:

3/18-3/19,3/21-3/23: Exercise

3/18: Event!


Shiori: Oh, Gunpei-kun!
Goon: Hmm? Shiori? What's up?
Shiori: Hey, do you think you're free this Sunday?

Option 1: Yeah, I'm free. Why do you ask?
Option 2: Sucks to be you, THIS guy has plans that day.


Translator's note: Option 2 is the only time I've ever seen the main character refer to himself as 俺様/ore-sama, which is really self-important and arrogant. No, Rei doesn't use it.

Shiori: I'd like you to come shopping with me... would that be too much to ask?


Option 1: It's fine. Let's go shopping together.
Option 2: Nah, I'll pass.


This is another great sign. Shiori is inviting us out, which means that she can't say no and force us to reload because we had to waste a full Sunday on it. Hurray!

Shiori: Really? Then, umm...
Goon: Want to meet in front of the shopping district?
Shiori: Yes, that's perfect. Don't forget!
Goon: (This Sunday? I need to make sure I don't forget.)

Awesome! But I can't shake this feeling of dread...

3/20 (Holiday): Call Megumi


Megumi: Yes, this is the Mikihara residence.
Goon: Hi, this is Fudou Gunpei.
Megumi: (gasp)
Goon: Hello? Is something wrong?
Megumi: I'm... I'm sorry! What might you be calling about?
Goon: What to go to Kirameki Central Park on 4/14?

Why did I choose the park, you ask? Well if you go to the same date spot three times in a row, you can get a certain mini-game to come up. But it doesn't seem to work in TokiMemo 1, so this is my mistake. On the plus side, no one hates the park, and there are almost always some neutral answers to give. edit: oh yeah, this didn't work because Shiori broke the combo by asking us out to the shopping district. We can take care of this by going to the park a fourth time...

Megumi: What? Y...Yes, gladly!
Goon: Alright, let's meet in front of the park on that day.
Megumi: .....
Goon: What's that? I couldn't hear you.
Megumi: Y...yes, we'll meet there!
Goon: Okay, don't forget.
(click)
Goon: Goon: Yes! I can't wait for the 14th.

3/24 (Sunday): Spring Break! And, Bonus Date with Shiori

Goon: (Today's my date with Shiori.)
Goon: (Where was I supposed to meet her, again?)


Option 1: Meet at Kirameki Central Park
Option 2: Meet at the Shopping District


This choice is one of the reasons you need to keep notes while playing this game. If you have two dates close together, there's no way of remembering which date is at which location unless you wrote it down somewhere. Thankfully, this improves in later games, but in TokiMemo 1, it's hell to reload an old save game and try to remember what day is supposed to be spent where. Thankfully, since Shiori made this date mere seconds ago, and we still remember that it's time to go shopping!


Goon: Have you been waiting long?
Shiori: No, I just got here myself.
Goon: Phew, glad I wasn't late.
Shiori: So where should we go shopping?

Option 1: The clothing boutique
Option 2: The accessories store
Option 3: The electronics store


Shiori doesn't particularly like the clothing store over the accessories store or anything, so it's kind of a toss-up. We might as well go with the clothing boutique here.

Shiori: Okay, let's go!


Shiori: I'm going to go look around.
Goon: Go ahead and take your time.
(beat)
Shiori: Sorry! There were so many things I wanted to look at.

Option 1: You can take as long as you want.
Option 2: Did you see everything you wanted?
Option 3: Please be considerate of those of us who have to wait around...


Kind of a toss-up between 1 and 2, so let's just be safe and say 1.

Shiori: Thank you. I saw more than enough, though.
Goon: (Looks like I made a pretty good impression.)


Shiori: Thanks a lot for tagging along with me today.
Goon: If you'll have me, I'll come along any time.
Shiori: Okay, let's go home, Gunpei-kun.

3/25-3/30: Exercise

3/30: Events!

Goon: Hey, isn't today Shiori's birthday?
Goon: (Should I get her a present?)

Technically, there's a choice here. But really, there isn't a choice here.

Goon: (What should I get her?)


The choices, ranked in order of how much Shiori likes them:

1: CD of classical music
2: Handkerchief
3: Earrings


Goon: Alright, let's give her a CD of classical music.
Goon: Let's call her up.

Shiori: Yes, this is the Fujisaki residence.
Goon: Umm... it's Fudou Gunpei.
Shiori: Gunpei-kun? What's up today?
Goon: Well, I have something I wanted to talk to you about. Could you meet me in front of my house?
Shiori: Yes, that's fine. I'll head over there soon, so just wait a little bit, please.
Goon: Okay, bye.
(click)
Goon: Alright, I'll head outside and wait for her.

Seriously, you two? You can see each other from your bedroom windows. This shouldn't be that hard!


Shiori: Were you waiting for long? I'm sorry I took so much time.

Seriously? I mean, really? How can you be late to an appointment that is 50 feet away?!

Goon: Happy birthday! I got you a present.
Shiori: Thanks! May I open it now?

You may remember that Yuina just says "Let's see what's inside" and sticks a question mark at the end. Shiori is a polite and proper girl, who actually observes the usual etiquette here.

Goon: Of course. Do you like it?
Shiori: I've wanted this for long time! I'll treasure it.
Goon: (She looks so happy. I'm glad I got her that gift.)

3/30: Another event!

(ding-dong!)


REE REE REE REE REE REE

Megumi: Excuse me...
Goon: Oh, Mikihara-san? What's up?
Megumi: This is, um, uh, your, birthday...
Goon: Present?
Megumi: Yes! Will you... accept it?
Goon: Of course I will. Thank you.
Megumi: I'm so glad...
Goon: (I'm such a lucky guy for getting a present from Mikihara-san!)

That was a relatively uneventful 3 months. We still haven't met Saki, somehow, but we're going to need to find more people to meet so that we can avoid Megumi at Ijuuin Christmas Party '96. But it's okay. Megumi seems to be relatively under control, if a bit clingy. There shouldn't be any more obstacles in our way! Build stats, meet some people, talk to them every once in a while, and it's a smooth road to Shioritown! Right?


:bang:

Next time: Summer 1996, More Chainsaws to Juggle

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Dec 11, 2013

Rogue 7
Oct 13, 2012
I'm sorry, but that hat cannot be anything else but a condom.

And I think my Korean coworkers gave me the impression that Black day was more about comiseration than celebration, but I didn't bother celebrating it either way.

ddegenha
Jan 28, 2009

What is this?!
I can't help but think that the reason that it takes a whole day to ask a girl out is because our Gunpei spends half the day psyching himself up and rehearsing and then the other half wondering how he either screwed up or could have done better. Those are pretty time consuming activities, and the actual phone call part is the smallest fraction of the whole process.

nielsm
Jun 1, 2009



quote:


MEGUMI HOW DID YOU JUMP PAST SHIORI AND YUINA PLEASE NO
Is she some sort of crazy stalker yandere* whose affection goes up when you ignore her? (Until a point, where she then starts loving you over at every opportunity.)

*) Yeah I know, the term "yandere" hadn't been invented in 1995.

FractalSandwich
Apr 25, 2010

nielsm posted:

Yeah I know, the term "yandere" hadn't been invented in 1995.

Ah, the halcyon days of 1995, when we had no need for words like "tsundere" and "moe" and "zettai ryouiki". A time when the world could scarcely imagine what horrors the future would bring. A more innocent time. A time before TV Tropes.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

nielsm posted:

Is she some sort of crazy stalker yandere* whose affection goes up when you ignore her? (Until a point, where she then starts loving you over at every opportunity.)

*) Yeah I know, the term "yandere" hadn't been invented in 1995.

She's much more innocent than I make her out to be in this playthrough, actually. Megumi really is just a shy girl who admires Goon from afar. She's kinda like Lisa Simpson reading the pages of Non-Threatening Boys Magazine.



The behind-the-scenes sequence that leads to her introduction:

1) Megumi notices the main character is awesome (as the star player of a sports team, the ace member of a club, or one of the top test scores in the class)
2) Megumi finds out the main character is Shiori's oldest friend
3) Megumi thinks "Shiori knows him this well, he's definitely a nice guy" and gathers up all of her meager courage
4) Megumi asks Shiori to introduce her to the main character, either at the Christmas party or on Valentine's Day
5) Megumi's affection keeps growing every time she notices the main character standing out from the crowd.


It's the 5 part that really really screws players over. Megumi is not just designed as a silver medal, she's designed in such a way that players can make up for the missing 9-11 months once they meet her - everyone else can be met within a couple months except for her and Yumi, so the two of them start with an abnormally high affection rating compared to the other girls.

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Dec 11, 2013

Kay Kessler
May 9, 2013

So Rei comes from a rich family, is extremely popular with girls, and doesn't use the "ore" pronoun, which means he most likely either uses watashi or boku.

...Rei's a chick, isn't he? :v:

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Kay Kessler posted:

...Rei's a chick, isn't he? :v:

Poor Mei.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn
I can only wonder how that relationship would work out. Do Rei and Goon just awkwardly skip over Rei going out of her way to be a jerk whenever they talk about how they met?

Also I'm kind of surprised the game doesn't have Shiori even mention Goon's birthday considering you get a bonus for it being on the same day.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

BlitzBlast posted:

Also I'm kind of surprised the game doesn't have Shiori even mention Goon's birthday considering you get a bonus for it being on the same day.

It's because of Megumi, again. The birthday event comes from whichever girl has the highest affection, and this is an example of why we have to beat Megumi away with a stick, while somehow managing to avoid turning her into a bomb.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
Rei is pretty hilarious.

Cipher Pol 9
Oct 9, 2006


vibratingsheep posted:

It's because of Megumi, again. The birthday event comes from whichever girl has the highest affection, and this is an example of why we have to beat Megumi away with a stick, while somehow managing to avoid turning her into a bomb.

Man, that is annoying. Depriving Goon of a Shiori Birthday Event. :( What a shame. Is this a one-time thing, so we can get it next year, or can you get it each year for maximum points?

Also, darn save shenanigans and Christmas gift lightning rounds. While I look forward more to meeting Saki, Nozomi had her own insane eccentric appeal.

EDIT: Also, having never played a Dating Sim before, I dislike how quickly I've become invested in all of this. There's a dark side in me... Good thing these things rarely/never come stateside.

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


drat it Goon, why cant you just say to Megumi "Hi. I'm not interested. Sorry. Bye." and just be done with it? Bombers are not good people.

WickedHate
Aug 1, 2013

by Lowtax

Sindai posted:

Rei is pretty hilarious.

Kind of a prick, too. Very Gary Oakish.

Hellioning
Jun 27, 2008

HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:

drat it Goon, why cant you just say to Megumi "Hi. I'm not interested. Sorry. Bye." and just be done with it? Bombers are not good people.

Because he's a Japanese dating-sim/visual novel protagonist. He cannot say no to women until he finds his TRUE LOVE.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

WickedHate posted:

Kind of a prick, too. Very Gary Oakish.

In the time it took for Goon to get three badges, Rei got a truckload.

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
So is Rei's deal that she actually has a crush on the protagonist, and that's why she's so mean to him? Or is Rei just mean from being rich and spoiled?

limaCAT
Dec 22, 2007

il pistone e male
Slippery Tilde
Thank you for playing and translating this vibratingsheep.
I played this game without knowing Japanese (save for two or three things that helped me look up stuff in a dictionary) and I missed a lot from my playthrough.

Galick posted:

:catstare: WHY DIDN'T WE VOTE FOR HER. Holy poo poo that is the best possible match.

Yup, Yuina is the best and some of her events are just plain crazy.

Kinu Nishimura
Apr 24, 2008

SICK LOOT!
Rei pretty much rules, wow. "Hey there Gunpei, check out my ENTIRE TRUCK OF VALENTINE'S CANDY. Later loser :iamafag:"

I'm happy this LP exists because I now finally understand what in the world was going on in that one weird minigame in La-Mulana.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

sincx posted:

So is Rei's deal that she actually has a crush on the protagonist, and that's why she's so mean to him? Or is Rei just mean from being rich and spoiled?

On Rei's path, you can only get chocolate from her if no other girl gives you chocolate. So it actually is kind of a valid offer with a hint as to how to achieve it. Pictures of the Rei path can be found here, which is easily Google Translated.

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Dec 12, 2013

Poulpe
Nov 11, 2006
Canadian Santa Extraordinaire

vibratingsheep posted:


REE REE REE REE REE REE

This cracks me up every time. Like- having a nice relaxing shower and then
"E..Excuse me..!"
:stonk:
REE REE REE REE

When you say you're going to play every Tokimeki Memorial game does that include the spinoff competitive puzzle game franchise? I actually stumbled upon that first years ago and had no idea what I was watching. This thread is my first introduction to the actual series. (Never been much for dating sims.)

Poulpe fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Dec 12, 2013

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Poulpe posted:

When you say you're going to play every Tokimeki Memorial game does that include the spinoff competitive puzzle game franchise?

Yes. And the Dance Dance Revolution spinoff for 2, Dancing Summer Vacation!

I may not cover the side stories unless people really really want them translated, though.

Mordecai
May 18, 2003

Known throughout the world! Chop people's head off to the ground! Angry eyes that frighten people! Dragon among humans, king of dragons... Manchurian Derp Deity, Ha Che'er.
I kind of like Megumi. Unlike Shiori, she at least has a personality, even if it is just "shy." And she's assertive.

Charlett
Apr 2, 2011
Yeah, this is kinda literally how I act around the guy I like. We're friends and I know he doesn't want a girlfriend in college so I *really* try to be nice to him and be a friend without saying that I am head over heels, but I still try to do nice things like give him gifts on his birthday and walk with him when we headed to dorms on campus. If I were playing, she'd be the Gold Medal, for actually trying to do something about her crush instead of just sitting around and blushing like most "lovers from afar".

I can see how she would be a "Silver Medal" if we were heading for Shiori though. You do well to get Shiori's attention and the only one who notices it is Megumi. :( I just don't like the "Bomb" stuff they have going on, as if all girls are just waiting to be *really mean*. I mean, Goon hasn't done anything for Megumi aside from "Thank you for a birthday gift, I'll return the gesture on your birthday because that's what a *normal human being* would do." How is she supposed to be mean and start saying that Goon hurt her by liking another girl? I dunno, it just makes it sound worse than it should be, and I guess I'm sad because I like Megumi and I'm disappointed in how the game portrays her, I suppose.

vibratingsheep
Nov 2, 2013

Fudou, Gunzou. The Face of the Franchise Killer. 2004.

Charlett posted:

I can see how she would be a "Silver Medal" if we were heading for Shiori though. You do well to get Shiori's attention and the only one who notices it is Megumi. :( I just don't like the "Bomb" stuff they have going on, as if all girls are just waiting to be *really mean*. I mean, Goon hasn't done anything for Megumi aside from "Thank you for a birthday gift, I'll return the gesture on your birthday because that's what a *normal human being* would do." How is she supposed to be mean and start saying that Goon hurt her by liking another girl? I dunno, it just makes it sound worse than it should be, and I guess I'm sad because I like Megumi and I'm disappointed in how the game portrays her, I suppose.

I joke that the girls are the crazy bombers, but really the game doesn't make it out to be their fault - what happens is that they get their feelings hurt, and everyone ELSE at school jumps to logical-if-extreme conclusions and thinks that the main character's a heel. It doesn't help that Megumi is basically the class hamster, and it'd take a real jackass to want to hurt her. The modern definition of moe is based on making you feel that the character needs to be protected and sheltered, and Megumi is ahead of her time by filling this description to a T.

So the characters I call Mad Bombers are more sensitive to their feelings being hurt since they have the most emotional investment. Does that make sense? The Psycho strings are just for jokes.

(Spring/Summer 1996 goes up tonight! Something Yumi This Way Comes)

vibratingsheep fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Dec 13, 2013

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sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
Suggestion for new thread title: "Tokimeki Memorial - help E/N is invading Let's Play"

As we see above, this works on multiple levels.

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