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Ooh, Greenburg might work as well, though that's almost for 30-somethings more than anything.
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DetoxP posted:Any good movies that would overlap with an interest in Hinduism (academically speaking)? I've seen Sita Sings the Blues and Monsoon Wedding looks neat. Anything else come to mind for anyone? Deepa Metha's Elements trilogy might count (with the caveat that they were made by a Westerner, albeit one with Indian heritage). Earth is about religious tensions in India prior to and during partition, Water is about widows in an ashram in the 1930s, Fire is about two women developing a relationship (and contains references to Hinduism, e.g. both women are named after Hindu goddesses).
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Movies with extremely subtle social/political commentary to them? Bonus points if its satirical or dystopian. Kind of like Starship Troopers. Basically the same level of subtlety of Starship Troopers. I'm all out of Verhoeven movies to watch. I'm desperate.
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You said subtle like Starship Troopers? Regardless, watch Dredd.
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Mustach posted:You said subtle like Starship Troopers? Regardless, watch Dredd. Subtle when it was released, not when everyone later caught on. Apparently that was one of the biggest issues with the movie, is that a lot of people saw it as a straightforward action movie instead of a fascist-militarization "war loving blows" movie.
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I bet you'd like Cronenberg. His theme is more "we trust our biology so much, what would happen if it betrayed us" but it leads to a lot of commentary on society. Start with Videodrome, and if you like that try Crash.
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teen witch posted:Movies with extremely subtle social/political commentary to them? Bonus points if its satirical or dystopian. Try Sucker Punch. 
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Slim Killington posted:I bet you'd like Cronenberg. His theme is more "we trust our biology so much, what would happen if it betrayed us" but it leads to a lot of commentary on society. Start with Videodrome, and if you like that try Crash. You can't talk about Cronenberg body horror without mentioning The Fly.
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The Fly is obviously his crowning achievement in body horror, but I don't know how much social commentary it's good for. I haven't seen it in years, maybe there's something there? Either way it's good, watch it too.
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Slim Killington posted:The Fly is obviously his crowning achievement in body horror, but I don't know how much social commentary it's good for. I haven't seen it in years, maybe there's something there? Either way it's good, watch it too. It's a movie about aging and the uncontrollable deterioration of the mind and body. That's like, a universal fear.
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Slim Killington posted:The Fly is obviously his crowning achievement in body horror, but I don't know how much social commentary it's good for. I haven't seen it in years, maybe there's something there? Either way it's good, watch it too. The Fly is basically this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnE3uyj9Grg
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:It's a movie about aging and the uncontrollable deterioration of the mind and body. That's like, a universal fear. Plus a dash of pregnancy anxiety.
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Criminal Minded posted:Plus a dash of pregnancy anxiety. And what a dash it is!
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I think giving birth to a big wriggling maggot is pretty much the apex of body horror, yeah.
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teen witch posted:Movies with extremely subtle social/political commentary to them? Bonus points if its satirical or dystopian. These are probably way too not-subtle but I lack the acumen of most on this board Idiocracy Spring Breakers Side Effects Election
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teen witch posted:Movies with extremely subtle social/political commentary to them? Bonus points if its satirical or dystopian. If Starship Troopers is your benchmark for extremely subtle then idk what to tell you. In any event, Audition can be read as a commentary on the changing role of women in Japanese society (that's my reading of it, anyway). City Hall (think I'm thinking of the right movie here) is about as subtle as Starship Troopers w/r/t it's commentary on the political process and the media.
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teen witch posted:Movies with extremely subtle social/political commentary to them? Bonus points if its satirical or dystopian. As subtle as Starship Troopers, eh? A hard bar to hit, but I'll try. Firewalk With Me is (strangely) a sort of a commentary on Twin Peaks, in the way that it explores the dark real world implications of the central crime of the show without any of the levity or quirkiness. The opening scene is a television being smashed, and it sort of follows from that, especially considering how disenchanted Lynch was with Hollywood and television at that point. I would definitely suggest watching Twin Peaks first, which is a commentary itself on small town America (both the good and the bad) and television drama. Put together it's an amazing bit of film making. Mulholland drive is also a commentary on the toxicity of stardom and fame (coincidentally it's the long form of a pilot that Lynch developed to try and continue work in Television after Twin Peaks folded, but which was rejected by the studio system). Both Drive and Only God Forgives take a similar Verhoeven approach to critiquing the image of masculinity in mass media. Drive is far more subtle than Only God Forgives, as evidenced by the horde of disappointed nerds in scorpion jackets who panned the movie when they actually got the joke the second time around. I don't love it as a film, but one reading of Inglorius Basterds is that it's Tarrentino directly mocking the portion of his audience who dress up like Vince Vega and have a Reservoir Dogs poster in their dorm room. It has the framing device of being about heroic Americans slaying Nazis, but one has to question the sincerity when the B-Plot is about a group of Nazi party leaders dying in a fire in a cinema as they watch a strikingly similar movie about a German sniper. Also the movie ends with a shot of Brad Pitt carving a swastika into the audience's head. I would also give a similar reading to Death Proof (although that's more about the twisted sexual politics of American Cinema, and less about the glorification of violence). The Comedy is another movie that openly mocks its target audience by having Tim Heidecker play a broken, empty man-child who's totally cut loose from anything but the shallowest connection to humanity - ostensibly having it be a "comedy". Dr. Strangelove, which has approximately the same subtlety level as Starship Troopers (6.7), and is about the catastrophic idiocy of the cold war and nuclear backed jingoism. Annnnnnnnnd that it. Those are the movies with subtle commentary attached to them. Happy watching, bud. sector_corrector fucked around with this message at 02:29 on Dec 10, 2013 |
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Splice is a very subtle satire of family life and the way society views scientists.
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Society, starring acclaimed actor Billy Warlock, is a very subtle social commentary and satire of 1980s yuppie classism.
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scary ghost dog posted:Splice is a very subtle satire of family life and the way society views scientists. ynohtna posted:Society, starring acclaimed actor Billy Warlock, is a very subtle social commentary and satire of 1980s yuppie classism. You guys have weird definitions of subtlety.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:You guys have weird definitions of subtlety. Pretty sure they're making fun of the dude who thought that Starship Troopers was a subtle movie.
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The cook, the theif, his wife & her lover is a political film that is pretty subtle about it.
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Can anybody think of movies similar to Chungking Express and Fallen Angels? I haven't seen any other Wong Kar-wai films, so I guess tracking down his other works would be a first step (I see Netflix has 3 of them)... EDIT: Completely unrelated: I'm trying to remember the name of a movie. I think it's 80s or earlier. It's Chinese, involving a father and son ascending to a forested mountain to live a quiet life (the time period is ambiguous during this portion). Later on the father has to journey down into the world to get food or something, where you're shown that the movie is actually set in contemporary times. He begs for food but leaves disappointed in the modern world. I think there's a festival later on? The movie is incredibly slow. I think the whole thing was a Buddhist parable or something. david_a fucked around with this message at 04:57 on Dec 12, 2013 |
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david_a posted:Can anybody think of movies similar to Chungking Express and Fallen Angels? I haven't seen any other Wong Kar-wai films, so I guess tracking down his other works would be a first step (I see Netflix has 3 of them)... You'll probably have better luck in this thread to find your movie title http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2177344
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david_a posted:Can anybody think of movies similar to Chungking Express and Fallen Angels? I haven't seen any other Wong Kar-wai films, so I guess tracking down his other works would be a first step (I see Netflix has 3 of them)... Other possibilities: Blue Valentine Ghost World (quirky in a similar way to Chungking Express) Sideways Maybe Krzysztof Kieślowski's Three Colors trilogy Tarkovsky's The Sacrifice regulargonzalez fucked around with this message at 18:09 on Dec 12, 2013 |
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Now that you mention it, Three Colors was sorta similar (but with less gunfire). I'll check out some of the others; thanks!
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david_a posted:Now that you mention it, Three Colors was sorta similar (but with less gunfire). Hollywood needs to make an action-packed remake of Blue.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Hollywood needs to make an action-packed remake of Blue. Well, Red did well enough for a sequel... Serious recommendations beyond other Wong Kar-Wai films: Reprise (2008) or Bonsái (2011), both of which happen to be one-word titles about young writers, but both also have a similar mix of manic energy and melancholic introspection, plus a strange relationship to music.
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Magic Hate Ball posted:Hollywood needs to make an action-packed remake of Blue.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Well, Red did well enough for a sequel... Reprise is absolutely fantastic and in urge everyone to watch it b
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Despite being a big Ridley Scott/Science Fiction fan I have never seen Blade Runner. Which is the definitive version to watch for someone new to the film?
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Yaws posted:Despite being a big Ridley Scott/Science Fiction fan I have never seen Blade Runner. Which is the definitive version to watch for someone new to the film? Director's and Final cuts both have their supporters, but either is a good version of the movie and you won't be missing anything whichever you choose. The theatrical, workprint, etc. are curiosities for interested fans only.
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Yaws posted:Despite being a big Ridley Scott/Science Fiction fan I have never seen Blade Runner. Which is the definitive version to watch for someone new to the film? The Final Cut. As far as I know there is no reason besides curiosity to watch other versions.
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Final Cut all the way.
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I forgot which one has "father" instead of "fucker" but that is my preferred rendition of that line. As long as you don't watch the theatrical though, you're good.
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Carthag posted:I forgot which one has "father" instead of "fucker" but that is my preferred rendition of that line. As long as you don't watch the theatrical though, you're good. This is not a difference I was aware of. He says it semi-ambiguously in every version I've seen.
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Snak posted:This is not a difference I was aware of. He says it semi-ambiguously in every version I've seen. It's pretty clearly "fucker" in the director's cut.
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And pretty clearly "father" in the Final Cut. Final Cut is the way to go.
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Final Cut for any number of reasons, but mainly so that you can see a film that looks as good as it is possible for a film to look. The treatment on that version is just beyond words.
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