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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.
Don't you try and crush my dreams.

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Klungar
Feb 12, 2008

Klungo make bessst ever video game, 'Hero Klungo Sssavesss Teh World.'

"Growing the beard" is generally something that happens between seasons 2 and 3.

ufarn
May 30, 2009
Ollie's been wearing an unshaved neckbeard for the past 1 seasons. Clearly he's not able to grow a beard.

Torrannor
Apr 27, 2013

---FAGNER---
TEAM-MATE
I think he is incredibly hot with the neckbeard. Don't change, Ollie!

I would rather have him embrace his socialist leanings from the comics.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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Drifter posted:

THAT'S why you think it sucks? Hahaha, oh you poor thing.


Dexo posted:

I think he was saying that's the cherry on top of it sucking.

This pretty much.

sleepingbuddha posted:

You need better friends.

Ain't that the truth.

VagueRant
May 24, 2012

Torrannor posted:

I would rather have him embrace his socialist leanings from the comics.
Yes! I really want the show to lean into this. I mean it would have to avoid words like "liberal" and "socialist", lest they offend American sensibilities of people who don't want no politickin' in their stories. But just the idea of him smashing bankers and white collar criminals instead of street level crime - without his father's list.

Because otherwise the show is basically about how rich people deserve to get away with everything because nepotism, given the drunk driving, Moira's crimes, etc.

VagueRant fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Dec 15, 2013

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005
There is a possibility that if Blood is around for more than a single season Oliver could take his fight to city hall. There is precedence in the comics.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Boogaleeboo posted:

It's all the same drug. Venom is a deritive of Miraclo. So really it's just variations of a theme, but the name screams Miraclo.

I'm wondering if this is going somewhere.

There is talk about doing an Hourman show. Granted the idea is Miraclo will be a thing that gives a person one random super power for one hour in a sort of mash up of Hourman and Dial H for Hero. But if they wanted to link them, they could just say that the Japanese Project stole Miraclo from Rex Taylor during World War 2, and crashed into that island. And then the Hourman show could follow Rex's grandson, Rick Taylor.

Drifter posted:

THAT'S why you think it sucks? Hahaha, oh you poor thing.

You want to know why Smallvile sucks compared to this.

Smallvile version of Slade Wilson: Let's just say the reaper can swing his sickle at me, but I'm beyond Death's stroke now

As compared to....ANYTHING Manu Bennett has done on Arrow.

'Nuff said.

As for this episode, loved it. I don't think I can fully explain my squeeling in any better terms than has already been done here. But is anyone else struck by how the Island plot seems to be entering....end game?

Like really when you look at what we know about the Island, something is going to have to happen to Sarah pretty soon to make Ollie think she's dead.*
Something is going to happen to Slade for Ollie to think HE'S Dead.
Ivo is going to have to die.

Like that alone means that we are going to run out of plot for Ollie to do on the island. (Though he has met his Russian Maffia man/ KGBeast on the boat, so he'll have to get to know him.)

My opinion always was that season 2 would end with Ollie leaving the Island, and probably going to Russia for a bit to train. But at the speed the Island plot is going, I think if they don't slow it down, they'll be done with the island plot in about 4-5 episodes.


*= I have to say that I didn't see the Shado/ Sarah scene playing out like that at all. I honestly thought that Ollie was going to put himself in front of Shado, and Ivo would still shoot her. That way the horrible thing that Ollie did that he couldn't talk to Detective Lance about would make sense.
"Yeah, your daughter did make it to the island, alive. But I was put in a sadistic situation and I chose the life of my island girlfriend over your daughters life. Ooops."

I also fully believe that no matter what Ollie did, Ivo would have shot Shado.

madstrike
Jun 10, 2013

I imagine that Slade is going to catch up to Ivo, who tells him that Ollie chose Sarah over Shado.

Slade "kills" Sarah -> Ollie arrows him in the eye and leaves him for dead. (Sarah does ask in "Crucible" what had happened with Slade)

GuardianOfAsgaard
Feb 1, 2012

Their steel shines red
With enemy blood
It sings of victory
Granted by the Gods

madstrike posted:

I imagine that Slade is going to catch up to Ivo, who tells him that Ollie chose Sarah over Shado.

Slade "kills" Sarah -> Ollie arrows him in the eye and leaves him for dead. (Sarah does ask in "Crucible" what had happened with Slade)

I still feel that in that scenario Slade would/should be infinitely more pissed at Ivo than Ollie though, since he's the one who pulled the trigger regardless of Ollie's choice. But yeah I wouldn't be surprised if Ivo has a hand in turning Slade against Ollie.

madstrike
Jun 10, 2013

Well, yeah. I'm guessing he does that after ripping Ivo's hearth out :unsmigghh:

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

The Question IRL posted:



Smallvile version of Slade Wilson: Let's just say the reaper can swing his sickle at me, but I'm beyond Death's stroke now

As compared to....ANYTHING Manu Bennett has done on Arrow.




Eh, Arrow isn't above the cutesy wink at the viewers lines either. When Laurel's mom told her she was going to Central City she said "back in a flash" for example.

The difference is that in addition to these little in jokes for the comics people, they also fill the show chock the gently caress full of the DCU, so it doesn't grate and make you think "stop mentioning stuff you are avoiding putting in", it makes you think "holy gently caress are we going to see the Flash in this show?" (The answer was yes, yes we would see the Flash).

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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Ivo will survive by downloading his conscious into an Android in the hold of his ship...

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Rhyno posted:

Ivo will survive by downloading his conscious into an Android in the hold of his ship...

I read that as android phone. This would also be an acceptable outcome.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE
Limited edition HTC IVO LTE.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT
Or maybe he already is an android, and Slade and Ollie discover this the hard way in a dramatic fight scene?:tinfoil: season 3:tinfoil:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I read that as android phone. This would also be an acceptable outcome.

Amazo being a smart phone app is actually a brilliant idea. The app allows users to briefly copy the skills of others if they also have the app?

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

zoux posted:

Eh, Arrow isn't above the cutesy wink at the viewers lines either. When Laurel's mom told her she was going to Central City she said "back in a flash" for example.

What he means is that besides the name, that was literally the only thing that made him Deathstroke at all. That line.

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...
Gary’s Answer

Aphrodite posted:

What he means is that besides the name, that was literally the only thing that made him Deathstroke at all. That line.

He had the eyepatch too, but Colonel Tigh might have just brought it with him.

jscolon2.0
Jul 9, 2001

With great payroll, comes great disappointment.

The Lord Bude posted:

Limited edition HTC IVO LTE.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

I read that as android phone. This would also be an acceptable outcome.

The next stage of viral marketing is Windows paying to have a sentient Android phone portrayed as villain.

Phylodox
Mar 30, 2006



College Slice
Guys, it's an old ship. It's not called the "Amazo", some of the letters just got worn off. It's the "Amazon Queen" out of Themyscira.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

Phylodox posted:

Guys, it's an old ship. It's not called the "Amazo", some of the letters just got worn off. It's the "Amazon Queen" out of Themyscira.

I'd...I'd actually be okay with this.

Dead Snoopy
Mar 23, 2005

The Question IRL posted:


My opinion always was that season 2 would end with Ollie leaving the Island, and probably going to Russia for a bit to train. But at the speed the Island plot is going, I think if they don't slow it down, they'll be done with the island plot in about 4-5 episodes.

I still think that monestary/temple we spotted on the island's skyline during the start of the season could factor in.

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Paul Hogan needs a guest spot on this show, man. He's part of the "Vancouver Players" and he even had a small part in Supernatural. Not to mention his, uh, history on another DC "superhero" show.

"What's with ALL THESE FRAKIN' ARROWS, Bill?"

ShakeZula
Jun 17, 2003

Nobody move and nobody gets hurt.

omg chael crash posted:

Paul Hogan needs a guest spot on this show, man. He's part of the "Vancouver Players" and he even had a small part in Supernatural. Not to mention his, uh, history on another DC "superhero" show.

"What's with ALL THESE FRAKIN' ARROWS, Bill?"

I was very confused for a minute, until I realized you meant Michael Hogan from BSG and not Crocodile Dundee.

Although if we're looking for someone with gravitas to play Ra's...

omg chael crash
Jul 8, 2012

Macys paid for this. Noodle Boy and Bonby are bad at video games and even worse friends.


Yeah, him too.

Gaz-L
Jan 28, 2009
He can be the hilarious grouchy bartender that Thea hires.

"Ya want Sex on the Beach, do ya? I haven't had sex in 10 friggin' years ya little sumbitch... That'll be $12.35!"

ufarn
May 30, 2009
I still can't get over Manu Bennett's pronunciation of "vigilante".

Kiwi villains are the best villains.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

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ufarn posted:

I still can't get over Manu Bennett's pronunciation of "vigilante".

Kiwi villains are the best villains.

You do realise he is speaking with an Australian accent right? A typical middle class blue collar accent. As far as I'm concerned that's the correct pronunciation of vigilante. (I know he was born in New Zealand but he was raised in Australia from the time he was a few months old).

ufarn
May 30, 2009

The Lord Bude posted:

You do realise he is speaking with an Australian accent right? A typical middle class blue collar accent. As far as I'm concerned that's the correct pronunciation of vigilante. (I know he was born in New Zealand but he was raised in Australia from the time he was a few months old).
Really? Interesting. I've never been able to completely place his accent.

Spergatory
Oct 28, 2012
So people have been saying that the Particle Acceler-splosion could be used to explain/empower all sorts of people in Central City, thus offering an easy origin for multiple Flash rogues. That got me thinking; anyone played Infamous? It's a superhero sandbox game for the PS3 with a similar premise; science-thing explodes, superpeople everywhere, most of them are dicks. In that game, the government intervenes to keep the crazy quarantined to one city; I'm wondering if maybe something similar will happen with the Flash? If there is a breakout of random superpeople in this one city, I'm sure ARGUS will get involved at the very least. That could offer an easy explanation for why the crazy poo poo in Central City never makes it to Starling. It could also form the basis for an awesome crossover; Flash rogue escapes quarantine, hides out in Starling, Barry speeds on over to hunt them down with Ollie's help.

I don't see things in Central becoming quite as bad as they did in Empire City (ie; total quarantine, no one in or out, societal collapse, starvation and riots, etc), but you never know. Come to think of it, DC published the Infamous comic book. And the game had a character called Moya Jones who was basically Amanda Waller. The connections just keep adding up... :tinfoil:

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Dead Snoopy posted:

I still think that monestary/temple we spotted on the island's skyline during the start of the season could factor in.

You never know. It could be a reason for the return to the island.

(End of Season 3. Ollie is in a Russian Maffia bar, talking to an old man.)

Old Man: You know, they say there is a temple on an island in the Chinese Sea. It is old temple, to lots of old gods. They say if you bring a body to this temple and emerse body in holy liquids. That person will come back from the dead.

Ollie:... (pause as he thinks.) Son of a bitch!

(Leaves, goes back to the island for season 4 and 5. Get's stuck there...again.)

Actually something that I'm wondering, Yao Fai spoke about the island having crazy herbs with healing properties (and we saw that they could be used to cure poision and Vertigo in season 1.) Could those herbs grow on the island because some Miraku got into the water table of the island, and it's effected the local plant life?

(Also, Ollie ran out of those herbs midway through Season 1. I assume that when he went back to the island at the start of season 2, he stocked up on those herbs for his return to Starling City.)

Avulsion
Feb 12, 2006
I never knew what hit me

The Question IRL posted:

Actually something that I'm wondering, Yao Fai spoke about the island having crazy herbs with healing properties (and we saw that they could be used to cure poision and Vertigo in season 1.) Could those herbs grow on the island because some Miraku got into the water table of the island, and it's effected the local plant life?

(Also, Ollie ran out of those herbs midway through Season 1. I assume that when he went back to the island at the start of season 2, he stocked up on those herbs for his return to Starling City.)

Maybe the Japanese were there to harvest ingredients.

UberAaron
Feb 11, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Ingredients? Hell, I think miriku (sp?) is purestrain lazarus pit. From that temple.

UnfortunateSexFart
May 18, 2008

𒃻 𒌓𒁉𒋫 𒆷𒁀𒅅𒆷
𒆠𒂖 𒌉 𒌫 𒁮𒈠𒈾𒅗 𒂉 𒉡𒌒𒂉𒊑


Dead Snoopy posted:

That building in the background looks suspiciously like Roger's Arena, home of the Vancouver Canucks. I couldn't get that out of my head the entire time.

It's BC Place football stadium. The building they were on is used for the police station in Continuum.

In Almost Human they show it with about five extra levels. Would hate to pay for those seats.

UnfortunateSexFart fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 16, 2013

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



UberAaron posted:

Ingredients? Hell, I think miriku (sp?) is purestrain lazarus pit. From that temple.

This is pretty much my theory. Evidence? Slade.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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I watched the most recent episode again and I think they may have killed Shado off too soon. She's the archery expert, not Slade. So who is going to train Ollie now?

wedgie deliverer
Oct 2, 2010

Rhyno posted:

I watched the most recent episode again and I think they may have killed Shado off too soon. She's the archery expert, not Slade. So who is going to train Ollie now?

Death is a mere inconvenience on this show.

JuulPodSaveAmerica
Aug 29, 2012
I'm sure I'm really slow to the draw here, but I absolutely love how much the show focused on Barry Allen's constant lateness, and how heavily the show foreshadowed his Flash transformation when he was talking to Felicity and saying that he'd be on time in the future.

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Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
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hi liter posted:

Death is a mere inconvenience on this show.

True, but she got a bullet through her head. A little more extreme than Malcom and Slade's ordeals.

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