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PrinceRandom posted:I thought Miami would go for a OT first? Though it looks like with how few linemen he has going in the first they could probably get a 1st round quality in the second which I suppose would be awesome but it is not likely. Defensive Tackle isn't implausible. Both Randy Starks and Paul Soliai are free agents who have made it clear they want big money, long-term deals. Jared Odrick is playing very well too, but those three are basically the strength of the defense right now.
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Chiefs need a QB, of course, but if we can't pull that off, getting a top-flight TE to make Smith look better would be sweet.
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Andio posted:Anthony Barr, I see him in all sorts of mocks going to the Bucs. Is he good enough for a top 10 pick? Yes. Honestly he might not fall to Tampa.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Yes. Honestly he might not fall to Tampa. Wow, really? If he's that good, pair him with Lavonte David... I know it's very early in the mock draft process but I've seen OL, WR and OLB for Bucs at 7. That's assuming we keep that 7th pick.
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Andio posted:Wow, really? If he's that good, pair him with Lavonte David... Barr is more of a pass-rushing OLB than the kind used in a 4-3, and would probably be converted to DE in that case.
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Declan MacManus posted:Bortles in the top 5? Wow. Most of it if he goes top 5 
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We absolutely resign soliai to a good contract. Thanks for everything Starks. Odrick is pure stud too
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Ozu posted:Here's McShay's 1.0 mock. Accuracy isn't expected since his first mock last year had Star, Damontre Moore, and Bjoern Werner 1-3. His 49er pick makes no sense. The D-line is over-stocked at the moment, and everyone is on an extended contract. Azhais posted:Walter has the same top two, but went with Clowney to Jax: Walter's makes sense for them. CB is almost a guarantee for their first round choice.
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Gonna keep an eye on Mosley, then, I guess. The Eagles, incidentally, have not drafted a corner with a 1st round pick in 11 years (Lito Sheppard, 2002). And there's been plenty of years where they've had CB and S as major needs! Reid started a trend of 2nd/3rd day picks on the secondary and Roseman continued it after taking personnel control last year, and it's resulted in some garbage selections (Curtis Marsh, Jaqwann Jarrett, Nate Allen, Trevard Lindley, Macho Harris). Please break tendency Howie. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 00:34 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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AAA DOLFAN posted:We absolutely resign soliai to a good contract. Thanks for everything Starks. Isn't there some friction between Soliai and the front office? Or at least between his agent and them? I thought there was some bitching this year.
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swickles posted:Isn't there some friction between Soliai and the front office? Or at least between his agent and them? I thought there was some bitching this year. That was Starks, who "flipped off the bench!!!!" (Flipped off his teammates saying he was washed up because he no longer started. As a joke)
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Coldforge posted:His 49er pick makes no sense. The D-line is over-stocked at the moment, and everyone is on an extended contract. All the good WRs and CBs are off the board at the time the Niners pick in that mock, in which case I wouldn't completely hate a DL pick. I think it's more likely they trade up than just sit there if the guys they like at their need positions start coming off the board. The Niners are really going to need bodies at those positions though, it sounds like Tarell Brown is walking unless he's severely overestimating the market. I'm not really happy about it, Baalke generally knows what he's doing when it comes to locking down guys (I can't think of anyone he's kept vs. letting go that has come back to really bite the team, financially or otherwise), but Brown's been the most consistent corner on the team for the last two and a half seasons and I'll hate to see him go. I would really like to see them come away from the first round with Dennard, Ekpre-Olomu, or Gilbert. I'm coming around on Gilbert a lot because he could add special teams value as well. If they go receiver then the first round guys I like are Lee (not happening), Evans (ditto, probably), Adams, and Matthews, although I'd prefer them to go corner first and try to snag Landry with one of their seconds.
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swickles posted:Isn't there some friction between Soliai and the front office? Or at least between his agent and them? I thought there was some bitching this year. Yes, David Canter said some pretty inflammatory stuff on twitter and I'm kinda shocked no one picked it up. David Canter @davidcanter 1h Happy for Koa. Great kid deserves to be paid. Wonder who will protect all those expensive LBs next year without Starks & Soliai Jordan @jords_mac 1h @davidcanter who says Soliai isn't staying? David Canter @davidcanter 1h @jords_mac me David Canter @davidcanter 50m @phinfan2003 not up to me & sadly were fed up with their tactics RT @IamJClary: @davidcanter Not all deals get done while player still in contract, perhaps patience is a virtue. RT @davidcanter: @IamJClary patience for a regime change yes Meanwhile... Omar KellyVerified account @OmarKelly I'm like a cat. Very moody. Sometimes I want to play. Sometimes I'll scratch you. You just never know. 
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Quest For Glory II posted:Gonna keep an eye on Mosley, then, I guess. The Eagles, incidentally, have not drafted a corner with a 1st round pick in 11 years (Lito Sheppard, 2002). And there's been plenty of years where they've had CB and S as major needs! Nate Allen is looking a bit better this year so I'm gonna hold out hope for him at SS. Honestly the need for CB outweighs the need for ILB greatly at this point, so Ifo Ekpre-Olomu would be a really good choice.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:Yes, David Canter said some pretty inflammatory stuff on twitter and I'm kinda shocked no one picked it up. I for one am excited that the Dolphins will be blowing up the most consistent and productive position on the team
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Ireland has proven to make the right decisions with regard to keeping specific defenders. I don't think Soliai will play outside of Miami. Starks will walk. It'll be Vernon - Odrick - Soliai - Wake oh my god that D-line is so good ugh
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Ireland has proven to make the right decisions with regard to keeping specific defenders. I don't think Soliai will play outside of Miami. And I guess we move Jordan to OLB/use him in wacky 5-2 packages to hide how exposed the linebackers are
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If the Texans take Derek Carr first overall I will lose my loving mind with laughter. Is there anything I can do to help make this happen?
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gohuskies posted:If the Texans take Derek Carr first overall I will lose my loving mind with laughter. Is there anything I can do to help make this happen? Get the job as Texans GM because otherwise it ain't happening
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Intruder posted:Get the job as Texans GM because otherwise it ain't happening The only way it might happen would be if there's a trade down, but even then I'd rather go for a guy like Bortles or Manziel. But you knew that already. 
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bhsman posted:The only way it might happen would be if there's a trade down, but even then I'd rather go for a guy like Bortles or Manziel. If the Texans trade down and take Carr then he still won't be the first overall  Also I will hold to my toxx if we take Manziel. I'll need a Chiefs avatar. I'd rather have AJ McCarron than Manziel e: I think I'm ready to take the leap on Clowney, then draft a QB in the second round if anyone drops who's worth it, otherwise hang onto Schaub for an extra year. Especially if Bridgewater doesn't declare Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:34 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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gohuskies posted:If the Texans take Derek Carr first overall I will lose my loving mind with laughter. Is there anything I can do to help make this happen? Break Bridgewater legs and convince Clowney to become a Buddhist mink.
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Intruder posted:I'd rather have AJ McCarron than Manziel I'm gonna quote this for you, unedited, as proof that you actually typed it.
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bhsman posted:I'm gonna quote this for you, unedited, as proof that you actually typed it. I'd rather bring back David Carr than draft Manziel. I'd rather sign Brady Quinn than draft Manziel. I'd rather bring Dan Pastorini out of retirement than draft Manziel e: Even if we stick to Aggies, I'd rather have Bucky Richardson than Manziel gently caress I'd rather have Jared Allen at QB than Manziel Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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I know the name has a really negative stigma for Texans fans, but having seen a decent amount of Fresno State this year I actually think Carr has a pretty good chance of being a solid NFL starter. I'd take him in the second over Manziel in the first any day, but I doubt that's an option a theoretical GM would have.
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Bridgewater vs Clowney, I can see going either way. Carr vs Clowney, if you go Carr then holy gently caress Also Derek Carr has stated how much he hates the way Houston treated his brother so we might get an Eli Manning situation e: However I'd take Carr looooooooooooong before I'd entertain the idea of Manziel Intruder fucked around with this message at 10:45 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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Grozz Nuy posted:I know the name has a really negative stigma for Texans fans, but having seen a decent amount of Fresno State this year I actually think Carr has a pretty good chance of being a solid NFL starter. I'd take him in the second over Manziel in the first any day, but I doubt that's an option a theoretical GM would have. Meh, the biggest knocks on Carr so far are that: A) He tends to fall apart under pressure (and lo, it was as if a million Texans fans cried out "We could have told you that"); and B) The offense Fresno runs involves a lot of bubble screens that inflate his stats I never got to watch the Carr Experience(tm) but I just don't like the story of Houston drafting the brother of the former QB, not to mention it means their dad gets involved again.
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From what I've read, he also has trouble progressing through his reads Falls apart under pressure and is a single read QB? Sounds familiar!
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Both McCarron and Manziel can absolutely start NFL games (it's not that hard to do) but I'd choose Manziel 10 times out of 10 just because of his particular brand of football savantism.
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LARGE THE HEAD posted:Did Dion Jordan bust or does he still have the potential to be useful for the Dolphins? Missed almost the entire offseason and some game time with his shoulder. He'll be good when Miami moves him to LB permanently.
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As of a 2 weeks ago Dion Jordan led the league in hurries per pass rush (he may still) Unfortunately it's a small sample size because for whatever reasons he is barely on the field. When he is, it's usually in coverage because he is actually pretty good at it while the other linebackers are horrendous.
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He's got pretty good pass rushing production for his snap count, but the coaching staff has been really stubborn with getting on the field, partially because they're idiots partially because Olivier Vernon has had 11.5 sacks. He has been shockingly good in coverage. I expected him to be good for an edge rusher, but he's been put in man coverage repeatedly vs. Gronk, Olsen, Gates, etc. and hasn't had a completion against him, and they've been able to do some really wacky zone blitz stuff: http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-cant-miss-plays/0ap2000000274515/WK-9-Can-t-Miss-Play-Wake-off-safety This was kind of crazy, here he's lined up over the innermost slot guy to the offensive left, and then covering a different guy on a wheel route down the field.
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AAA DOLFAN posted:Ireland has proven to make the right decisions with regard to keeping specific defenders. I don't think Soliai will play outside of Miami. I wouldn't trust Ireland to put his pants on correctly in the morning
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bhsman posted:Meh, the biggest knocks on Carr so far are that: He actually doesn't fall apart under pressure, not sure where you're getting that from. If you're talking about the San Jose State game, then yeah he looked a bit bad towards the end... after throwing 6 touch downs. Fresno does run bubble screens but they run vertical sideline routes even more. The bubble screens don't inflate his stats and he's making legitimate throws all over the field. I wouldn't worry about any team taking him #1 overall though, he's a top 100 player, not top 10. Bortles is more likely to be the obscure name that leap frogs Bridgewater/Manziel.
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Catfish Noodlin posted:He's got pretty good pass rushing production for his snap count, but the coaching staff has been really stubborn with getting on the field, partially because they're idiots partially because Olivier Vernon has had 11.5 sacks. He's going to be really good if Miami doesn't gently caress it up.
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