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I don't know, it's way easier to spend $1 than to search all over the drat place for a .apk. Trying to navigate that poo poo is impossible with a mobile browser, and who knows how many viruses you're getting when you do it from your desktop.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:I'd wager it's a lot higher than that. It's so easy to pirate things on Android that some people who might otherwise buy things just do that instead. If Google made it so that you could only install from unknown sources via ADB with a USB cable then it would cut down on casual piracy while still allowing developers to test on devices. It won't stop the most hardcore pirates, but I don't think there's much you can do about that without device-specific APKs.
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Cruseydr posted:I can only imagine the big fight with Amazon that would ensue.
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Benjamin Black posted:Can someone recommend me a matte screen protector that isn't a giant pain in the rear end to install? I tried the one from best skins ever and I was really surprised to find that they are very difficult to install. I ended up botching it and throwing $10 away. Sorry for being late on this but in terms of a great brand of screen protectors that kill glare I've really been loving the Tech Armor brand protector on my HTC One.
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Dec 19, 2013 19:09
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bam thwok posted:If I'm rooted, I won't be able to just use the OTA update, right? I have to wait until someone posts a zip of it and then apply it through recovery? You can just use the OTA, but be ready for the highly likely scenario of losing root without a guarantee of being able to get it back. (Unless you have a Dev version of the Maxx) If someone posts a ZIP and you apply it with stock recovery you're just manually doing what the OTA update does.
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Dec 19, 2013 19:21
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sleepwalkers posted:I get what you're saying, but as long as carriers have any say in the matter, it won't happen.
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Dec 19, 2013 19:24
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Seems like either Motorola or Verizon wasn't a fan of white status bar icons.
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Dec 19, 2013 19:36
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bull3964 posted:Seems like either Motorola or Verizon wasn't a fan of white status bar icons. It's missing a few other things like the new dialer theme.
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Dec 19, 2013 19:37
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I thought the dialer was a Nexus/GPE exclusive thing anyway.
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Chalk me up as disappointed with the update - no GEL, no dialer, everything is still blue The only real differences I've noticed is the GPS icon and the lockscreen
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It's also entirely possibly that they may end up pushing their launcher to the play store since they seem to be doing it with everything else. Oh well, I wasn't the only one complaining about the lack of UI changes on the feedback forum. I suspect it was Verizon driving this though, probably didn't want a ton of calls from people asking why it doesn't look like their phone is connecting to the network anymore.
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Dec 19, 2013 20:00
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Did the Moto X get the 4.4 UI changes and dialer?
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ProjektorBoy posted:You can just use the OTA, but be ready for the highly likely scenario of losing root without a guarantee of being able to get it back. (Unless you have a Dev version of the Maxx) Well I only use root for adaway and tethering. Adaway I can live without, and I think the tethering workaround I use will survive the loss of root... so I'm good with the OTA. Bing™ it on.
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Lowen SoDium posted:Did the Moto X get the 4.4 UI changes and dialer? Yep. You'd think the changes would be similar if "the only difference between the x and the maxx is screen and battery size". The internals could be identical, but it's clear they're being treated as completely different devices by someone. Whether that's verizon or motorola I'm not sure.
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bam thwok posted:Well I only use root for adaway and tethering. Adaway I can live without, and I think the tethering workaround I use will survive the loss of root... so I'm good with the OTA. Bing™ it on. Did you know that you're taking away from developers' ability to pay for the support your apps need? Apps don't just comprise of the executable on your phone, the servers behind them cost money and the developers need to be compensated for their time. Why aren't people mentioning adblock being treated the same as someone talking about  ?
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RZA Encryption posted:Why can't google do the same? I think everyone has just tempered their expectations to where they can't imagine google doing things as correct as apple as far as updates go. Because at that point it would leave Google without any revenue from apps/search? That would hurt Google more than it would Samsung/Motorola/LG/HTC, who would just go the way of Amazon. Samsung already has their own app store - it sucks, but they'd go that route before they let Google force them into shoving updates for 20+ devices out on the same day.
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sleepwalkers posted:Because at that point it would leave Google without any revenue from apps/search? That would hurt Google more than it would Samsung/Motorola/LG/HTC, who would just go the way of Amazon. Samsung already has their own app store - it sucks, but they'd go that route before they let Google force them into shoving updates for 20+ devices out on the same day. And google would have the only usable app ecosystem on android, which would be a great selling point.
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RZA Encryption posted:Yep. You'd think the changes would be similar if "the only difference between the x and the maxx is screen and battery size". The internals could be identical, but it's clear they're being treated as completely different devices by someone. Whether that's verizon or motorola I'm not sure. The difference is the X is a Motorola device and the rest are Verizon devices. Yet another reason to get the X over the others.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:My girlfriend's Verizon X has white icons. I'm not really worried about some minor visual changes, the MAXX has some definite advantages over the X that I wouldn't give up.
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Dec 19, 2013 20:25
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RZA Encryption posted:Did you know that you're taking away from developers' ability to pay for the support your apps need? Apps don't just comprise of the executable on your phone, the servers behind them cost money and the developers need to be compensated for their time. Maybe I'm ignorant to how Android ads are monetized, but if I were to just cover up an ad bar with my finger versus using a tool that prevents it from being displayed, is there really a difference in the revenue stream? I literally never click the ads anyway. edit \/\/\/\/ also yes. SA does't stop filez conversations out of solidarity with artists. They do it because this isn't a file sharing forum. bam thwok fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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RZA Encryption posted:Why aren't people mentioning adblock being treated the same as someone talking about Because there's nothing illegal about blocking ads?
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Eh, I'm not going to lose sleep over white icons. I'll take the larger battery and wireless charging any day of the week. I'm also wondering if the launcher they made for the X may not be compatible with their circle widget and that's why they didn't switch it out. I still wouldn't be surprised if the launcher moves to the play store ultimately. It'll all be moot anyways if google releases GEL to the market. The X actually doesn't have all the AOSP dialer changes either. It's brought closer in line with AOSP, but it's not the same.
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bam thwok posted:Maybe I'm ignorant to how Android ads are monetized, but if I were to just cover up an ad bar with my finger versus using a tool that prevents it from being displayed, is there really a difference in the revenue stream? I literally never click the ads anyway. Yes, some money (obscuring with your finger) vs. no money (ad is never loaded).
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big mean giraffe posted:I'm not really worried about some minor visual changes, the MAXX has some definite advantages over the X that I wouldn't give up. bull3964 posted:The X actually doesn't have all the AOSP dialer changes either. It's brought closer in line with AOSP, but it's not the same.
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RZA Encryption posted:Yes, some money (obscuring with your finger) vs. no money (ad is never loaded). Then my apologies to the maker of FlashLight, whose kids I've no doubt condemned to a mercifully short life of poverty. /derail Where's my Maxx update already, jeez.
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The Google dialer is exclusive to the Nexus 4 and 5 for some reason. There's a hack to put it on the Moto X but things won't exactly work like on the 4/5 unless you have a custom launcher like Nova.
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Looks like some of people on the Motorola forums are having issues with the Maxx/Ultra update - https://forums.motorola.com/posts/944892be33?page=1 Anyone here have trouble? Crossbar fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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AdBlockers posted:I am a freeloader that wishes to use developers' resources without compensating them in any way. Piraters posted:I am a freeloader that wishes to use developers' resources without compensating them in any way.
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He very clearly typed "/derail" which means the derail is over and you're not allowed to respond, idiot.
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You must think people who skip commercials on their DVR are monsters. Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:He very clearly typed "/derail" which means the derail is over and you're not allowed to respond, idiot. If we don't respect these rules, we're just freeloading.
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More Nexus 5 chat: The "hardware" changes you guys talk about, have they already rolled out those? Is it just tweaking the build quality, or other stuff as well? God, I'm sperging on this phone way too much.  Edit: Has anyone ever tried using adverts as a form of donation? Like "If you liked this product you can support us by watching x amount of ads"? MrOnBicycle fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Dec 19, 2013 |
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:There's two. A bigger battery and wireless charging. It's also ugly, too big, uncomfortable to hold, too low resolution for the screen size and polluted with Verizon's Droid-branded bleeps and bloops. 720p looks pretty drat good still at 5", not seeing any pixels or artifacts or anything. And the MAXX is quite comfortable thanks to it's rounded corners and soft-touch back/sides. Not really ugly either, maybe you have it confused with the red abomination the ULTRA? It's mostly a black slab with a pretty inoffensive back. Still has all the AOSP sounds too. I know you're captain "arg anything not pure aosp is worthless trash" but man try a little harder.
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big mean giraffe posted:720p looks pretty drat good still at 5", not seeing any pixels or artifacts or anything. And the MAXX is quite comfortable thanks to it's rounded corners and soft-touch back/sides. Not really ugly either, maybe you have it confused with the red abomination the ULTRA? It's mostly a black slab with a pretty inoffensive back. It's big. It's got a 5" screen and that's just too big for normal use. I feel the same way about my Nexus 5. My complaint on the sounds was that it does the annoying robot sounds by default and no one ever changes them and I hear that poo poo all the time, so that's not really a problem for people who own them. It's all minor nitpicking (you've seen my posts), and I'd take a MAXX over an S4 or One or G2. If I had to decide between X and MAXX, though, I'd take the X. If the next X has wireless charging and Motorola stays on the ball with updates, I'll be getting one of those, because Nexus phones aren't getting any smaller.
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Wait, so if I use Adblock on my browser because ads are annoying as all gently caress, I'm a monstrous freeloader?
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CLAM DOWN posted:Wait, so if I use Adblock on my browser because ads are annoying as all gently caress, I'm a monstrous freeloader? Yup. Because why should I have to produce content that people would actually want to pay for when I can just plaster ads all over the loving place and put up the most tepid of efforts at composing coherent things.
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CLAM DOWN posted:Wait, so if I use Adblock on my browser because ads are annoying as all gently caress, I'm a monstrous freeloader? I don't like ads, either, but I uninstall things if they have ads I can't pay to remove.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Are you blocking ads in applications so you don't have to pay to remove them? Then yes, absolutely. Are you blocking ads in applications that the developers rely on to make money? This is also a yes. As long as they're not intrusive rear end in a top hat ads, I'll keep them on if there's no paid option. Rovio has gotten pretty good at this. As for the web side, I block the gently caress out of ads because so many of the networks are compromised.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:Are you blocking ads in applications so you don't have to pay to remove them? Then yes, absolutely. Are you blocking ads in applications that the developers rely on to make money? This is also a yes. I'm talking about a regular internet browser, as that guy mentioned "Adblock" which is a common extension/addon. I don't run it on my phone, didn't even know it existed or was possible to forcibly block ads in phone apps. If the app is decent and there is a cheap no-ads option, I often just buy it. If there is no option or it's an unreasonable price, I uninstall. Ads are annoying as gently caress and I don't remotely blame people for blocking them when they're obnoxious and intrusive.
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So having Google+ and android 4.3+ does not automatically give you access to Auto Awesome Movies, it seems. Is this feature only turned on for specific models of phones or is it one of those slow roll out features that Google does for what ever reason?
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Lowen SoDium posted:So having Google+ and android 4.3+ does not automatically give you access to Auto Awesome Movies, it seems. It apparently is device specific. Nexus 4, 5, 10, this year's 7, HTC One, Note 3, Moto X, and Moto G.
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