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Bicyclops posted:To be fair, we are exceedingly bad at treating PTSD now. I haven't seen the episode, so if it's a bunch of "Ah, I see, you want to have sex with your mother" (and it probably is), it's bad, but they would have had to invent therapy if they wanted to make someone get noticeably better over the course of an episode. I'm pretty sure it was beyond just "oh no you're not getting immediately better" and into "I have no loving idea how to treat or deal with someone suffering PTSD" territory. And nobody even loving think about making some smartass "oh haw haw obviously Starfleet's forgotten how to do anything about PTSD" since TNG and DS9 retconned like half a dozen loving wars that were happening immediately prior to or during the early TNG years.
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Ezri's PTSD therapy strategy: catch Nog up on Bashir's holosuite adventures, don't allow him to be alone ever and let people badger him with petty poo poo, don't medicate him ever Contemporary PTSD therapy strategy: medication, EMDR, support groups with fellow vets, therapy dogs, nature hikes or any other kind of activity that allows the person seclusion while encouraging physical activity.
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1st AD posted:Ezri's PTSD therapy strategy: catch Nog up on Bashir's holosuite adventures, don't allow him to be alone ever and let people badger him with petty poo poo, don't medicate him ever Would it have killed the writers to do some research on psychology and therapy?
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Farecoal posted:Would it have killed the writers to do some research on psychology and therapy? Given the general treatment of vets in media and their portrayals of PTSD, even today, I'm going to go with "yes."
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McNally posted:Given the general treatment of Almost nothing regarding brain disorders and mental illness is treated correctly in any media even in 2013.
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None of which, unfortunately, are very effective treatments. 
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S2 E5 - Cardassians Good Trek, perhaps even great Trek. Garak is a great character, I got introduced to Gul Dukat properly and he seems awesome (the children, please, let us talk of the children) and the whole thing came together nicely. Impressive and motivational to continue with DS9.
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I think that's one of the first episodes where you get a good idea about how the writer's will treat war in the the series. It's not just gonna be "two governments fight, some ships blow up, then they sign a treaty", but they're really going to go into the repercussions of war. Yes, that is a good episode.
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Bicyclops posted:None of which, unfortunately, are very effective treatments. I suppose it's a lot easier to show advances in medical care by letting Bones give a lady a kidney-growing pill than it is to show advances in mental health care.
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Speaking of the repercussions of war, the AVClub is making its way through DS9 and today they recapped In the Pale Moonlight.
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I wish I could watch that episode for the first time again. I remember going from  to  at the end.
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1st AD posted:The only good part of Descent was Beverly using SCIENCE to blow up that abomination of a Borg ship, also guest starring the same actor who was in a previous episode about the same technobabble. Ya it wasn't anything like Borg technology, looks wise. At least later we got spheres/obelisks, etc. But that thing was just a half rear end kitbash that ignored all things Borg in design.
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Astfgl posted:Speaking of the repercussions of war, the AVClub is making its way through DS9 and today they recapped In the Pale Moonlight. Rappin_Jake_Sisko posted:Dad's gotta convince the Romulans to enter in the war 
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Dude's been showing up and rapping for nearly every single review. It's amazing.
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Astfgl posted:Speaking of the repercussions of war, the AVClub is making its way through DS9 and today they recapped In the Pale Moonlight. Youkilledhim! That's what you planned all along. You just wanted to get him on the station.. to plant a BOMB on his shuttle!
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Astfgl posted:Speaking of the repercussions of war, the AVClub is making its way through DS9 and today they recapped In the Pale Moonlight. Today! Is a great day! For the good guys! I love whoever commented that one of the things that makes great Star Trek great is guys like Avery Brooks or Patrick Stewart or William Shatner acting for the folks in the back row.
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rocket_man38 posted:Ya it wasn't anything like Borg technology, looks wise. At least later we got spheres/obelisks, etc. But that thing was just a half rear end kitbash that ignored all things Borg in design. I'd always assumed it was just some ship that Lore had stolen. They'd wrecked their cube somewhere else and Lore shows up in that thing and is like "sup guys."
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Skeesix posted:Today! Is a great day! For the good guys! There's a reason they always cast captains from the stage. Acting like that fits, damnit!
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I'm on to Evolution, and wow, just like the start of S2 I feel like I've missed an episode or something? The newer uniforms look comfy as heck and the picture quality is waaay up. I love it!
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Wesley's grey-on-grey uniform is the best uniform.
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The Dark One posted:Wesley's grey-on-grey uniform is the best uniform. I think you mean his rainbow uniform is the best.
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redshirt posted:I think you mean his rainbow uniform is the best. That would be his gay-on-gray uniform.
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What about Wes' space-cardigan?!
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I personally enjoy his space cardigan, I bet Bev knit it for him.
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Tuvix's flowery fusion uniform is the best uniform no contest.
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MikeJF posted:Acting like that fits, damnit!
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Slamhound posted:I totally heard that in Sisko's voice. Same.
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Otisburg posted:Same. Kirk: Acting like that fits, damnit! Picard: Acting like that fits, damnit!
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LeafyOrb posted:Tuvix's flowery fusion uniform is the best uniform no contest. Tuvix is truly a gem in the in the spider-filled cave of Voyager.
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I forgot what Tuvix looked like and almost punched my computer monitor at the image search. I want to go back to five minutes ago when I was still forgot.
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Shoehead posted:I'm on to Evolution, and wow, just like the start of S2 I feel like I've missed an episode or something? The newer uniforms look comfy as heck and the picture quality is waaay up. I love it! Are you watching the HD versions? Amazon has them on Instant Video up to season 4 if you aren't, free if you have Prime. Also there were apparently a lot of background changes to the show after season 2. New set lighting director, less direct involvement from Gene Roddenberry, uniforms that didn't cause back problems, etc. Farecoal fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Whalley posted:I forgot what Tuvix looked like and almost punched my computer monitor at the image search. I want to go back to five minutes ago when I was still forgot. Oh God I can barely imagine the horrors.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Oh God I can barely imagine the horrors. I feel bad for Tim Russ. At least he has his music still going for him.
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rocket_man38 posted:I feel bad for Tim Russ. At least he has his music still going for him. He just can't find poo poo
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Like, Tuvok was an okay character concept, you just take a Spock that's vaguely angry instead of vaguely sad and watch him try to control it, and maybe make him a little more tertiary instead of the second-in-command. And Tim Russ does pretty okay with what he's given, but he's playing that character on loving Voyager, where until Seven of Nine comes along, the only other interesting character is the hologram.
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Call this my one really weird opinion about Voyager, but I unironically enjoyed Tuvix as a character (as much as you can like a character on Voyager) and would easily take him over either Tuvok or Neelix. His concept was loving retarded sure, but he was way more interesting than the other two were, plus he was actually competent at his job which is more than I can say for everyone else on the ship. I was actually kind of upset when Janeway murdered his rear end because Kes was sad. Also status quo and all that.
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Bicyclops posted:Like, Tuvok was an okay character concept, you just take a Spock that's vaguely angry instead of vaguely sad and watch him try to control it, and maybe make him a little more tertiary instead of the second-in-command. And Tim Russ does pretty okay with what he's given, but he's playing that character on loving Voyager, where until Seven of Nine comes along, the only other interesting character is the hologram. I would be shocked if the casting sheet for Tuvok was listed as anything other then "Black Spock". 2 entire series since TOS they probably thought they could easily do a major Vulcan cast character and not worry too much about it.
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Tuvix was Voyager's Stefan Urquelle.
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Mr. Jive posted:Tuvix was Voyager's Stefan Urquelle. Was there an episode where Carl murdered a screaming Stefan to get Steven back?
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