|
Eiba posted:Nah. I mean, I haven't heard anything, but it's barely beginning if the name "Vinland Saga" is to be believed. This is probably the end of Canute's story though. Very much wrapping up the last arc before moving on. I don't know. Structurally, the arc of Vinland Saga has felt incredibly similar to Yukimura's previous series Planetes, and if that continues to hold true then the series is probably going to wrap up in a few chapters.
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2013 02:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 10, 2024 16:56 |
|
|
cafel posted:I don't know. Structurally, the arc of Vinland Saga has felt incredibly similar to Yukimura's previous series Planetes, and if that continues to hold true then the series is probably going to wrap up in a few chapters. ~history spoilers~ Especially considering Thorfinn's enlightened attitude and utopian vision... Vinland itself is going to be tragic as heck. A good attempt at peaceful relations with the Native Americans will be made, but ultimately misunderstandings and recriminations are going to lead to war, even in distant Vinland, dooming the settlement. I really liked Yukimura's take on Canute turning back the tides, and his generally brutally accurate portrayal of the mindset of people in the past, so I'm really looking forward to how he builds that up, and what he makes of it. My personal guess is that ~speculation based on history spoilers~ Thorfinn will run off to join the Native Americans, or it's just going to be a bleak ending. Either way, Yukumura's built up a really interesting character for whom what actually happened is going to be just about the most heartbreaking thing. Of course Yukumura could always throw out history to suit him. He already did to get Thorfinn and Canute to meet the way they did (the dates they both lived don't match up), so who knows how this'll go. I just think a vague sailing off into the sunset would be a cop out, considering all the buildup.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2013 04:02
|
|
|
I thought more recent archaeological findings suggested the Norse settlers eventually joined the Native Americans instead of being brutally murdered like was previously believed?
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2013 05:30
|
|
|
It's an interesting cap on Thorfinn's adventures in the mainland Europe. I'm sure there's plenty of drama and adventures ahead. As Eiba said, there's a lot of stuff to go in the history.
|
|
#
?
Nov 23, 2013 05:48
|
|
|
To be fair, next chapter is 100 so it must be very tempting to go "done!"
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2013 02:43
|
|
|
Zorak posted:It's an interesting cap on Thorfinn's adventures in the mainland Europe. I'm sure there's plenty of drama and adventures ahead. As Eiba said, there's a lot of stuff to go in the history. Thorkell seemed like such an interesting person in real life, he is a natural fit for a manga character.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2013 04:33
|
|
|
Zorak posted:It's an interesting cap on Thorfinn's adventures in the mainland Europe. I'm sure there's plenty of drama and adventures ahead. As Eiba said, there's a lot of stuff to go in the history. Well sure there's definitely a lot of history and a lot of potential story, but Thorfinn's arc as a character is pretty much finished. He had his crisis about killing and non-violence, and it just reached it's obvious conclusion. From here on in, if the story continues, it will be hard to expand on the character, which is part of what makes me think he's going to wrap it up soon.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2013 11:15
|
|
|
isme posted:Kingdom is a very entertaining manga, but the historical research of the author is worse than a middle schooler's term paper. Anybody here can probably spend 30 minutes reading on Qin and Qin Shi Huang in Wikipedia and be better versed than the author. The English translation of a Japanese translation of a Chinese name is pretty frustrating to read, especially when you want to figure out which famous historical figure the author is trying to bastardize next. I too would have preferred them keep using the original chinese names. But really, this manga doesn't seem to be intended for historical accuracy. It's shonen as gently caress. It has no room for realism and real life poo poo. Also everyone got power levels. It's as faithful to the source material as Dynasty Warriors to ROTK.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2013 15:09
|
|
|
wid posted:I too would have preferred them keep using the original chinese names. But really, this manga doesn't seem to be intended for historical accuracy. It's shonen as gently caress. It has no room for realism and real life poo poo. Also everyone got power levels. It's as faithful to the source material as Dynasty Warriors to ROTK. This is why I like Vinland Saga, very historically sound, but the story is a fantasy when compared to actual historical events. No need to show Shounen powers as the achievements itself is already bad rear end in itself. Kingdom is very entertaining manga to read, but the Shounen-ness and confusing translations are starting to grate on me.
|
|
#
?
Nov 24, 2013 19:57
|
|
|
That's why I just treat Kingdom like some great fantasy manga, the latest chapters are getting pretty epic. I love the pace at which it's translated.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 00:36
|
|
|
Kingdom has really been on a roll lately. I lost it when the ladders didn't even make it half way up the wall.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 01:29
|
|
|
Shin is becoming a legitimate badass. I felt  when he tore through the Zhao soldiers attacking Duke Hyou's flanks and rallied his 10,000 troops
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 05:40
|
|
|
I like the fact that despite his idol, Ouki, is a mastermind type of general, Shin is not. His General Class (seriously, it's shonen as gently caress that it's practically a video game) is instead the same as Duke Hyou, the shonen-nest General Class, powered by Burning Spirit and Pure Will (with a massive penalty to Intelligence). If anyone is expecting this manga would be another Historie or Vinland Saga, you got the wrong manga. I find those two to be superior in every way but Kingdom is scratching my itch for shonen especially since the current crop of shonen is really boring. But like I said before, it's an odd duck where the shonen-ness is wrapped around gory carnage and blatant disregard for human lives, unlike all the other shonen which try to gloss over the violence and brutality.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 07:46
|
|
|
I'm happy Kingdom is getting attention, but given that the historical angle is used more for setting than for accuracy, perhaps further discussion of Kingdom should move to the Miscellaneous Seinen thread. Despite the hero's shonen qualities, seinen is apparently what the series is officially classified as. Makes sense with how violent it is.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 16:24
|
|
|
Shieldhill posted:I'm happy Kingdom is getting attention, but given that the historical angle is used more for setting than for accuracy, perhaps further discussion of Kingdom should move to the Miscellaneous Seinen thread. Despite the hero's shonen qualities, seinen is apparently what the series is officially classified as. Makes sense with how violent it is.
|
|
#
?
Nov 25, 2013 16:42
|
|
|
A Bride's Story chapter 33 is up: Read Online I gotta say I am still just really disappointed with Mori's action sequences, in a lot of ways. Maybe it's just a slump, but I just don't think this arc measures up to the non-conflict chapters at all. I was at least feeling some great tension the last few chapters, after the hyping of the Batan's vastly superior armament. I especially liked the scenes with Joruk pleading with Amir to save herself, or Amir taking a moment to steel herself as she collected her gear; It really gave a sense that there was some danger. That goes right out the window with this one! At least it's still pretty.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2013 10:12
|
|
|
Considering all of her prior works, I don't think she has much experience with action scenes, unfortunately. I still really enjoyed the chapter, but I agree that it's far from her best. I don't think it's particularly bad, though.
|
|
#
?
Dec 4, 2013 12:59
|
|
|
Frankenstein Dad posted:Considering all of her prior works, I don't think she has much experience with action scenes, unfortunately. I still really enjoyed the chapter, but I agree that it's far from her best. I don't think it's particularly bad, though. I'm just bitter because I'm so disappointed  What gets me is the potential! I am constantly struck by her ability to depict movement and emotion, which is what got me looking forwards to the fight in the first place, but unfortunately the scene composition and (narrative, dramatic, and to some extent visual) flow is just kind of all over the place.Anyway, here's another one; Chapter 34: Read Online check this guy out, he is LOVING that poo poo edit: poo poo gently caress okay uhhhh try that link again Epoxy Bulletin fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Dec 6, 2013 |
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2013 05:13
|
|
|
But that's chapter 33?? edit: fixed now, thanks EB! ANIME AKBAR fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Dec 6, 2013 |
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2013 05:44
|
|
|
Binged all of Vinland up to the recent chapter and read the entire thread too. What a wonderful show, missed the point that the original arc was just the prologue, so that was a real eye-brow raiser to me. Shame it is a monthly release. I have a feeling this essentially concludes "saga 1", if we consider the prologue "saga 0". I assume saga 2 will govern all of Vinland and the journey to iceland, but I wouldn't expect it to exceed 200 chapters and we might only even see 150 before the series ends. It depends on how much the author wants to make out of it. Now, positive remarks is how similar the storytelling is to actual viking stories. Thorkell gets his fingers chopped off and just keeps fighting, important characters can get offed with barely a sentence to be of note to them, but of course it is a modern story, so it spends frivilous amounts of lavish on the characters it feels like to embellish. It captures the spirit of viking storytelling perfectly, for a modern audience. As for the farming saga, it was a blast to read since I didn't have to wait months between updates. It might have been unbearable for some less patient people, but it fits really well with where the story is going. Thorfinn's pacifism is very "zen through combat", which is what everyone seems to react to when they encounter for instance Thors. They, who have only known the chaos of battle their whole life, see the calm state, that the vikings don't really have a name for, but fits really well with the phrase "a true warrior doesn't need a sword". Such a foreign concept for vikings, it probably isn't entirely unknown either, but all different regions put different names to it.
|
|
#
?
Dec 6, 2013 11:55
|
|
|
New Historie chapter: http://hoxtranslations.blogspot.com/2013/12/historie-c83.html I've been catching up on the various mangas people have suggested in here and have been enjoying pretty much all of them. I gave Kingdoms a try and got in 40 chapters, but was....disappointed. The history feels weak and silly, such as the mountain people. The combat is blant, as it is just hyping up super stereotype evil monster and then ragekid will just bruteforce him. Just very shonen silly style. Hox Scanlation has always been posting Sangokushi translations and I've been considering reading that to learn about the Chinese Three Kingdoms lore, which feels more suited to this thread than Kingdoms. Hox has the whole Sangokushi on a mediashare, so I plan to give that a try: http://www.mediafire.com/sangokushi I recognize OP has been left idle so I was pondering cleaning it up to include the new mangas people have spoken about like Gunka no Balzer.
|
|
#
?
Dec 21, 2013 17:30
|
|
|
Having followed this thread for awhile, I'm really sad that there's never been any more updates for Hishintan - Vita Arcana. I was really digging this manga and its Caligula-esque vibe, because the Late Roman Empire is the
|
|
#
?
Dec 21, 2013 18:21
|
|
|
A series focused on Ricimer and the last days of the western empire would honestly be really cool.
|
|
#
?
Dec 21, 2013 23:32
|
|
|
Suben posted:A series focused on Ricimer and the last days of the western empire would honestly be really cool. That entire timeframe is loving intense. Basiliscus literally botched the last ditch attempt at stabilizing the Western Empire. Given command of probably one of the largest amphibious invasion until like... Normandy. And he loses nearly the entire force of 100k+ men. If there is ever a point in history where one person made an impact that changed the course of history it was the decision to put him in command of that punitive invasion. Not only did he get a force destroyed by an enemy he easily outnumbered 10 to 1 he loving goes back and destabilizes the East so badly that they can't do anything to save the West for well over a generation.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 07:30
|
|
|
Vedius Pollio posted:Having followed this thread for awhile, I'm really sad that there's never been any more updates for Hishintan - Vita Arcana. I was really digging this manga and its Caligula-esque vibe, because the Late Roman Empire is the What a tease; to just learn of this and it's already stopped updating. It's gorgeous.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 09:08
|
|
|
As a heads up, Hox is putting the new Vinland on /a/ at the moment. Should be up elsewhere soon enough. Here's the /a/ link: http://boards.4chan.org/a/res/98806905 Edit: Thread died. Reuploaded here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vsoo2p and here: http://www.batoto.net/read/_/213238/vinland-saga_ch100_by_4chan Sinner Sandwich fucked around with this message at 07:24 on Dec 23, 2013 |
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 14:48
|
|
|
Sinner Sandwich posted:As a heads up, Hox is putting the new Vinland on /a/ at the moment. Should be up elsewhere soon enough. Thorfinn? Who's Thorfinn?
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 15:05
|
|
|
Hell hath no fury like a woman of viking heritage scorned.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 15:31
|
|
|
Ylva is the second manliest character in the series.
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 18:14
|
|
|
The little comments from the children made those scenes 10x funnier
|
|
#
?
Dec 22, 2013 23:57
|
|
|
I would like to note that Vinland Saga hasn't had comedy in forever, and now it does again. God bless Ylva.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 00:57
|
|
|
Vedius Pollio posted:Having followed this thread for awhile, I'm really sad that there's never been any more updates for Hishintan - Vita Arcana. I was really digging this manga and its Caligula-esque vibe, because the Late Roman Empire is the This seemed fairly interesting but Era is one bizare character. I am really confused by this manga because it seemed like some sort of hosed up gore hentai. I did enjoy reading through it as it depicts an interesting setting.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 02:40
|
|
|
Sinner Sandwich posted:As a heads up, Hox is putting the new Vinland on /a/ at the moment. Should be up elsewhere soon enough. It's gone.  Anyone got an alternate link? Doesn't seem to be on any of the manga sites yet.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 04:27
|
|
|
^^^^^ Sendspace link, Vinland Saga 100: http://www.sendspace.com/file/vsoo2p In future, should probably post that with the 4chan link since 4chan urls die off quick.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 04:30
|
|
|
That was the  est chapter.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 04:44
|
|
|
That was adorable I wonder how much Thorfinn is going to reveal of what he went through. I mean, his current course of action aside, the dude has killed easily hundreds of people.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 05:28
|
|
|
JerseyMonkey posted:This seemed fairly interesting but Era is one bizarre character. I am really confused by this manga because it seemed like some sort of hosed up gore hentai. I did enjoy reading through it as it depicts an interesting setting. Yeah, I read that was the general consensus when this thing first hit the thread and thought that was a really silly reduction. I'm totally not seeing it. It's a comic set in the late Roman empire, of course we need gratuitous titties and blood-spectacle. Also the thing about Era is that hermaphrodites and gender-bending do have a rather well-established place of spiritual prominence in Roman religion and mythology. So that part didn't seem out of place to me at all. I may just be really biased because it takes place in my favorite era of ancient history. I love how the manga is constantly making allusions to the weird pagan cults which were spreading across the eastern empire at the time like Hecate and El-Gabal. Also the political intrigue plot seemed like it was going places. Polio is one cool motherfucker, and I hold out some hope he's an homage to my usernamesake. Maybe less with the eels and more with the debauched slackerism. I have to hope this thing updates again... someday.  On Vinland Saga: I want more of other-Thorfinn. "MOM!?!?"
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 05:44
|
|
|
WAIT: the thing I want most from Vinland Saga right now is Thorfinn to go "by the way, I met Great Uncle Thorkell. I cut out one of his eyes."
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 05:55
|
|
|
Zorak posted:That was adorable I wonder how much Thorfinn is going to reveal of what he went through. I mean, his current course of action aside, the dude has killed easily hundreds of people. Not sure that would bother too many people his combat would probably be less alien than his new pacifism. I have a feeling his mom will say he's taking after his father and his sister will call him a coward good chapter but felt a little short wanna read so much about this reunion :< DamnGlitch fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Dec 23, 2013 |
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 05:58
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 10, 2024 16:56 |
|
|
"WAIT, HOW OLD AM I NOW?" I love this manga.
|
|
#
?
Dec 23, 2013 06:29
|
|
