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Timby posted:Chyna was pretty popular, relatively speaking, in the Attitude Era, and now she's got drug and alcohol problems and is doing porn. Really, Chris Kanyon's story is just depressing as hell, too. apparently she's involved in a private English tutoring school somewhere in the Tokyo area now. I remember hearing about it last year, and then a Tokyo-based expat mentioned it a month or two ago on a gaming podcast so while I'm hardly going to hunt down where she's working it's safe to say she's in ~glorious Japan~ now. I think if you're going to be so cold as to power-rank the saddest wrestling stories, the Von Erichs and Owen have to be near the top.
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Timby posted:Everyone has their Owen Hart stories, but I have to admit that some of them really rub me the wrong way, like the Tonight Show thing. So Ahmed Johnson gets tricked into dropping a few thousand bucks on a fancy suit -- to me, that's not funny, it's just kind of being a prick. I'm all about practical jokes and pranks, but when your pranks cause people to spend money for no reason or actually get into a fight (there's a story Foley tells about Owen instigating a fight between a wrestling show promoter and the arena sound guy), that just crosses a line for me. I might agree about the suit thing, except that Ahmed didn't come across as bitter about it, he seemed to look back on it as a "I was mad as hell at the time, but think of it as funny now" thing. But yeah, instigating a fight and the non-apology to Austin are good points.
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Wrestlers are pretty hosed up people. The industry is full of disgusting stories, fraternity culture, racism, misogyny and homophobia. There are very few people involved in the industry who I could say are stand up decent human beings. Owen was seen as one of the good ones because he's compared to guys who have an obsession of making GBS threads in gym bags. That being said, there is evidence that the culture has changed tremendously in the last ten years and is finally evolving from its carny roots.
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Dec 23, 2013 03:20
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budreck posted:Wrestlers are pretty hosed up people. 
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Memento posted:Yeah, this comes up every now and then in the Carnies, Racists and Perverts thread: why do we not have a "Good guys and gals of wrestling" thread? It's because once you say that Mick Foley, Mean Gene and Molly Holly are all good people, you really run out of steam. They're few and far between They mentioned that in the other thread and said that it'd basically be full of John Cena stories. 
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Dec 23, 2013 03:39
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Please tell me Lou Albano was a decent guy. He was before my time, and I know he played a heel, but dude was Mario. He's one of the few celebrities that would really make me sad if he was a dick.
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I'd put in Mick Foley easily within the Top 1% Morality Tier of people ever involved in professional wrestling, and even he cheated on his wife.
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FalseShockWorker posted:Please tell me Lou Albano was a decent guy. He was before my time, and I know he played a heel, but dude was Mario. He's one of the few celebrities that would really make me sad if he was a dick. He was weird as hell but I've never heard about him being a shithead to anyone but his own liver.
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Shiki Dan posted:I'd put in Mick Foley easily within the Top 1% Morality Tier of people ever involved in professional wrestling, and even he cheated on his wife. Wait, what?
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Timby posted:Wait, what? Rumor has it he was boinking Melina on the side, IIRC. I am not saying it definitely happened. I bet it didn't. But... dirtsheets.
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rotinaj posted:Rumor has it he was boinking Melina on the side, IIRC. I am not saying it definitely happened. I bet it didn't. But... dirtsheets. It wasn't "dirtsheets" that started that, it was his own writing which was really loving creepy about Melina in both blog and book form.
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jeffersonlives posted:It wasn't "dirtsheets" that started that, it was his own writing which was really loving creepy about Melina in both blog and book form. Oh man, I thought it was just me who thought this. Mick is undoubtedly the nicest dude in wrestling, but he seems like such a weird goon when it comes to women.
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FalseShockWorker posted:Please tell me Lou Albano was a decent guy. He was before my time, and I know he played a heel, but dude was Mario. He's one of the few celebrities that would really make me sad if he was a dick. If you have a subscription for F4W they have an awesome interview with Paul Heyman about Lou Albano back in the day after his death. He did drink a lot and he had stories of him speeding while intoxicated. Including pissing on the side of the road and then shaking the hands of police officers because they were so excited to meet him.
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Dec 23, 2013 04:49
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Mick's wife is frankly way out of his zipcode judging by the pictures in his books, so his creeping on everything that moves is even shakier. Guy, be happy with what you have.
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Thing is, we have no idea what his relationship with his wife is like. You can't automatically assume he's cheating, especially if, y'know, he wrote about it in a NYT bestseller.
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Sir Jebus posted:Oh man, I thought it was just me who thought this. Mick is undoubtedly the nicest dude in wrestling, but he seems like such a weird goon when it comes to women. He has a thing for this pornstar named "Siri", too - http://adamcarolla.com/mick-foley/.
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Sir Jebus posted:Oh man, I thought it was just me who thought this. Mick is undoubtedly the nicest dude in wrestling, but he seems like such a weird goon when it comes to women. Mick's a pretty insecure guy by his own admission, and he worked in the most aesthetics-first company in a very aesthetics-first business, so of course he's going to act goony when hot girls pay attention to him. Let's not make any assumptions about his marriage though, especially since he's also been pretty open with his wife about life on the road.
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Mick's "Carnies/Racists/Perverts" entry should basically be "Wrote The Hardcore Diaries." I had only that book to keep me company on a three-day train ride and it still pisses me off how bad it was. I haven't read Countdown to Lockdown.
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Strenuous Manflurry posted:He was weird as hell but I've never heard about him being a shithead to anyone but his own liver. The section about Captain Lou in The Masked Man's book just talks about how he worked himself into stardom by making the most of every opportunity to an almost excessive level. More character flaw than real "evil/burying" kind of thing, but a flaw nonetheless.
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Dec 23, 2013 07:27
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Memento posted:Yeah, this comes up every now and then in the Carnies, Racists and Perverts thread: why do we not have a "Good guys and gals of wrestling" thread? It's because once you say that Mick Foley, Mean Gene and Molly Holly are all good people, you really run out of steam. They're few and far between Daniel Bryan is a really good guy.
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Smoking Crow posted:Daniel Bryan is a really good guy. Daniel Bryan is a really good guy. I was just throwing a few names out that pretty much everyone can point to and say that while they weren't perfect, they were legitimately good people. Except for Molly Holly. I won't hear a single bad word against her. I'm pretty sure she's actually a saint.
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DeathChicken posted:He actually broke that out quite a bit. He'd do it during Superstars squashes and freak out the announcers. Yeah, Tenta was fat, but pretty drat athletic in his early years before the inevitable knee wear and tear got to him.
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Dec 23, 2013 08:41
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Didn't Albano smack Shane McMahon when he was a kid because Shane called him 'fat man' or was that a made up story?
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budreck posted:Has Bret Hart ever had facial hair? I think I've only seen him clean shaven. He had some scruff on Lonesome Dove at points, I think that's the only time I've seen him with facial hair. 
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Memento posted:Except for Molly Holly. I won't hear a single bad word against her. I'm pretty sure she's actually a saint. I think I recall hearing about someone who goes onto every YouTube video featuring her and talking poo poo about her for some bizarre reason.
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Paul Bearer was the nicest man in wrestling. Fact.
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VogeGandire posted:Paul Bearer was the nicest man in wrestling. Fact. Paul Bearer knew about Undertaker's deadly fear of cucumbers and deliberately put cucumber slices in his gloves, causing him to literally sprint out of a Waffle House. 
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Also dropped cucumber in his Coke, causing him to throw the glass across the room.
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I genuinely want to know what started Taker's phobia of cucumber. Because from all sources, it's a REALLY intense phobia.
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Well, the urn is clearly a yonic symbol, so...
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VogeGandire posted:I genuinely want to know what started Taker's phobia of cucumber. Because from all sources, it's a REALLY intense phobia. How have I never heard about this before now? Is it something Paul/Percy talked about in shoot interviews or such?
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VogeGandire posted:I genuinely want to know what started Taker's phobia of cucumber. Because from all sources, it's a REALLY intense phobia. please elaborate. I think I know the secret to beating the streak
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Gaz-L posted:How have I never heard about this before now? Is it something Paul/Percy talked about in shoot interviews or such? PUNKS DIET SODA posted:please elaborate. I think I know the secret to beating the streak Yeah, it was from Paul Bearer's shoot interview, when Paul would travel with Taker, and found out Taker has a huge phobia of cucumbers, to the point where he couldn't even stand to be in the same room as them, so Paul as a rib would put slices of cucumber in Taker's gloves or boots.
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That's pretty loving monstrous. Cucumbers are vile.
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Has there ever been a stable comprised entirely of high-flyers? Most stables seem pretty well balanced. I want to say Filthy Animals, but Konnan and Disco weren't really flying dudes. I guess the Mexicools would count too, even though they were more ground-based by the time they all got to WWE.
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sticklefifer posted:Has there ever been a stable comprised entirely of high-flyers? Most stables seem pretty well balanced. I want to say Filthy Animals, but Konnan and Disco weren't really flying dudes. I guess the Mexicools would count too, even though they were more ground-based by the time they all got to WWE. 3 Count and the Jung Dragons come to mind.
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Kaientai?
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sticklefifer posted:Has there ever been a stable comprised entirely of high-flyers? Owen Hart?
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LwO, maybe?
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Perigryn posted:LwO, maybe? La Parka.
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