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So I've considered dipping my toes in Flames of War. I'm in northern Europe, how do I collect without spending all my money? 
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http://theplasticsoldiercompany.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1&zenid=8e429403c801e660fee45241df6df2a7 You can get what you need from this company, plus its all plastic so its easy to put together. Flames of War is 15mm so make sure you get things from that model range.
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Dec 29, 2013 17:52
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Thanks a lot! 15mm and 1/72 are interchangable terms, right?
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Dec 29, 2013 18:01
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Tias posted:Thanks a lot! 15mm and 1/72 are interchangable terms, right? 1/72 is quite a bit bigger than 15mm. 15mm is closer to 1/100, IIRC.
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Dec 29, 2013 18:08
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You can also get a lot of great cheap 1/100 kits from Zvezda.
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Dec 29, 2013 18:13
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Oh, allright. Well, I haven't bought anything, won't have the dosh before january, and I'm not sure what I want to play. (though I tend towards Red Army, as I have a colossal Eastern Front boner) Going to hit my local stores first, since I'm told FoW can be found many places, before I make a decision on what to buy.
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Dec 29, 2013 18:40
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Tias posted:Thanks a lot! 15mm and 1/72 are interchangable terms, right? 1/72 is 20mm, while 1/100 is 15mm. (roughly, because model makers take a lot of liberties with scales sometimes)
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Dec 29, 2013 19:23
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Devlan Mud posted:1/72 is 20mm, while 1/100 is 15mm. Zvezda are actually trying to avoid this problem atm. A lot of their models from the last few years were down as best they could, but now with models they can get a hold of blueprints for the originals for, they make them in a CAD program, 3D print it for prototyping, and then send the file off to the casting factory to finish it off.
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Dec 29, 2013 19:29
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Speaking of Zvezda and Plastic Soldier Company, I was recently asked if I wanted to try out Flames of War. I have avoided the game, but given the complete lack of interest in other historical games in the area, I am starting to reconsider it. But there is no way that I'm getting into the game with anything but an all plastic army. I have a dozen or so bases of German infantry already, and it seems that the plastic kits available are mostly for German and Russian armies anyway. Are there anything reasonably fun and effective that I could build by just adding plastic kits to my Germans?
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Dec 30, 2013 19:22
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Right now you can do basically anything Russian with Zvezda and PSC except some Tank-Destroyer specific lists and Cossack cavalry, but Germans lack things like heavy artillery (although I suspect the Zvezda 105 is actually a 15mm gun rather than 20mm"). Best advice is pick a period, pick a list that works with what you have and build stuff you like. I've had great fun smashing T-26s into other T-26s over the last couple of months, and they are the crappiest of crap tanks.
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Dec 30, 2013 19:44
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Probably a shot in the dark, but does anyone make WWII Norwegian infantry? Battlefront updated the Norwegian list, and I'm thinking of giving it a go, but I don't feel like I have the patience (or dexterity) to not completely butcher a mini trying to do a head swap.
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Jan 2, 2014 02:03
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You could probably get away with Finns if you want to do Winter uniforms, but I think you could get away with French Foreign Legion painted in appropriate colors. The Battlefront ones all seem to have manly man beards, and I don't know if Norway was as lenient in their facial hair standards.
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Jan 2, 2014 04:29
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 Seems at least that manly man beards were not mandatory. Even though Thor Heyerdahl maintained some of the wildest and hairiest beards I've seen when on his later expeditions, he's clean shaven on the pics I've seen of him when he was a commando in the resistance forces, a position that you'd think would warrant a manly man beard.
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Jan 2, 2014 10:50
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I'd go with the Finns in winter gear based on that photo. Plus, then you've got Finns if you don't like the Norwegian rules. I've heard of people using Gebirgsjager (German Alpine troops) for Norwegians, and that seems like a really close fit. (Although there's a lot of goggles.) Still, for great coats, you've got some close hat-matches in Peter Pig's WWI line. Did they wear great coats? I'm having trouble finding reference images. French in kepi:   WWI Belgians in that goofy Belgian hat: 
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Jan 2, 2014 13:07
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Hey do you remember this post?Indolent Bastard posted:A group of friends have decided to play SAGA (the not terribly historical, but very fun) dark-age skirmish game. And rather than spend a bunch of cash on 28mm minis (or even 15mm) and making all new 28mm historical terrain we elected to scale the game down to 6mm. Most forces will only use 55 or so models, so my purchase netted me 3-4 armies worth of minis for $60 shipped. I sure do. And here are the first results. 10 Norman Cross-bowmen for a skirmish game scaled down to 6mm. 
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Jan 2, 2014 16:48
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moths posted:I'd go with the Finns in winter gear based on that photo. Plus, then you've got Finns if you don't like the Norwegian rules. I've heard of people using Gebirgsjager (German Alpine troops) for Norwegians, and that seems like a really close fit. (Although there's a lot of goggles.) Yeah, I think BF says they did use great coats, and suggests using either Winter Finns (the Norwegians and Finns used a similar hat) or Gebirgsjager with French kepi head swaps or something like that. I may just stick with Finns since that's another army that interests me.
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Jan 2, 2014 18:21
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Indolent Bastard posted:Hey do you remember this post? Nice one- be interested to see how it plays at 6mm. Its great fun at 28mm!
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Jan 2, 2014 18:26
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lilljonas posted:Speaking of Zvezda and Plastic Soldier Company, I was recently asked if I wanted to try out Flames of War. I have avoided the game, but given the complete lack of interest in other historical games in the area, I am starting to reconsider it. But there is no way that I'm getting into the game with anything but an all plastic army. I have a dozen or so bases of German infantry already, and it seems that the plastic kits available are mostly for German and Russian armies anyway. Are there anything reasonably fun and effective that I could build by just adding plastic kits to my Germans? You could run all plastic Germans pretty easily, but it would be difficult to get some types of guns and vehicles. All the more common ones are in plastic due from battlefront or plastic soldier company. A basic panzerkompanie, grenadierkompanie, or gepanzerte panzergrenadiers would all work I think. It's just going to be the artillery, and thus smoke, that you're missing. What kind of force did you want to play?
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Jan 5, 2014 19:15
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So No Pun Intended had a good old bash around with my 6mm Brits and Zulus last week (we used a variant of Black Powder called Still Learning The Rules) and had a lot of fun with them. Quite fun to push several hundred little men around a table, even if we ended up with a fairly bloody draw. Since I'm more or less done with painting and basing them to my fairly remedial standards - there's another 60ish Brits I want to do as a Naval Brigade detachment but that's a couple of nights work tops (the best bit about 6mm) - I was wondering if anybody had recommendations for another little force to put together, and somewhere to get them from. I know Mahdists would be one option, but I was wondering about something from the North West Frontier (Afghans or Pathans or something). Any other thoughts gratefully appreciated!
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Jan 6, 2014 06:10
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I'm interested in historicals, especially WWI and/or Cold War between Vietnam and '90 around the world. Do any games cover that second time period in particular?
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Jan 6, 2014 09:39
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Force on Force has supplements for Vietnam, African bush wars and all the "Cold War Gone Hot" scenarios you'll ever want. The game focuses on small-scale skirmishes between forces of platoon size or smaller, and it's really good at it. At a bigger scale, Battlefront released a Vietnam supplement for Flames of War, as well as a pretty comprehensive range of plastic miniatures. If you've ever wanted to recreate that scene from Apocalypse Now, this might be your game. And for even bigger games, there's Cold War Commander. Dunno anything about that, though. Siivola fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 11:22
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There's a pretty decent write up and links to Serotonin's blog about CWC in the OP. Saga doesn't have any Roman Legion rules (yet) do they? I really want a small-scale Roman skirmish type of game. E: Or even better, a Roman version of Muskets & Tomahawks 3 Action Economist fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jan 6, 2014 |
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Jan 6, 2014 17:07
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Studio Tomahawks new game, Jugula, is all about running a ludus (Gladiator school), so that gives you Saga / Romans. No quite legionaries, but it sounds pretty cool.
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Jan 6, 2014 21:59
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No Pun Intended posted:Studio Tomahawks new game, Jugula, is all about running a ludus (Gladiator school), so that gives you Saga / Romans. No quite legionaries, but it sounds pretty cool. http://backtotheminis.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/ive-tested-jugula-next-gladiators-game.html?m=1 Seems to be more about Gladiators, which is fine (although a sore spot since this competes with Yet Another Failed Goon Projecttm). I'd still rather have a game on the scale of Saga or M&T.
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Jan 7, 2014 00:06
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Thanks, that looks really awesome, a lot different than I had expected. I can see what you mean though and what you are asking for would be pretty ace.
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Jan 7, 2014 01:20
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You could just play Saga with Romans. I'd use the Byzantine list which has all the things you want/need for a Roman army in it (shieldwall etc). You could also take the special character list from SAGA for Harald Hardrada who has a bunch of super elite and hard to kill motherfuckers and use them as Praetorian Guard. As for the classic enemies like the Celts/Picts/Galatians their style of warfare changed so little over that thousand years you could use the lists for Welsh/Scots/Strath/etc for them without any problems. If you wanted Huns I'd take the Welsh High King since he can get mounted Warrior archers (I think?) and mounted Hearthguard spearmen with good armor.
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Jan 7, 2014 09:17
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DoubleAughtMeowMix posted:I'm interested in historicals, especially WWI and/or Cold War between Vietnam and '90 around the world. Do any games cover that second time period in particular? Two of my favorite eras... For WWI, I would recommend Through the Mud and Blood by Too Fat Lardies, a game company out of the UK. It is a fun, playable game about small unit actions. I would highly recommend buying the scenario book, Stout Hearts and Iron Troopers. They break down the game and WWI tactics as if they were a set of field exercises from the era ("How to assault the trench with a platoon of men.") This really helps learn both the game and the historical tactics. There are also larger scenarios included. If - IF - you can find it, check out GW Historicals' Great War and the supplement Over the Top. This WWI modeled with an adaptation of an old edition of 40K. It may sound odd, but it works very well, and is also a great way to get 40K gamers to try their hand at WWI. Unfortunately it is out of print, but copies crop up on eBay occasionally. It is also a beautiful book with lots of WWI model-porn. Speaking of which, these are my 28mm WWI British:  And 28mm WWI Germans:  For Vietnam, I'll recommend another game from Too Fat Lardies called Charlie Don't Surf. It is a very interesting, well thought out design that really keeps the players thinking. If you're interested in Flames of War (a popular WWII wargame) there is a Vietnam supplement called Tour of Duty. I've had a lot of fun with it, and it is a good game; it got a bit of a bad rap from folks who think WWII/FoW rules don't "fit" Vietnam, but I think it does a very credible job. Cessna fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jan 9, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 17:10
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The issue FoW:Vietnam has is that most people think of Vietnam as a platoon-level skirmish, based on how many movies are out there that just follow one platoon (like that one movie, Platoon). FoW is company- and often battalion- level.
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Colonial Air Force posted:The issue FoW:Vietnam has is that most people think of Vietnam as a platoon-level skirmish, based on how many movies are out there that just follow one platoon (like that one movie, Platoon) Yes, agreed. Also, Tour of Duty adds rules/lists for NVA tanks. (Gasp!) This got them a lot of grief, as the popular perception is that the war was one of infantry skirmishes in the jungle - this people accused Battlefront of trying to turn Vietnam into "Kursk with Helicopters" so that they could sell more tank models. Personally I don't have a problem with this. The fact is that after 1971 the NVA did use plenty of tanks, especially in battles like Lam Son 719 and the Easter Offensive. And no one is saying you MUST use them in your game; I tend to think they're a bit of a White Elephant in an NVA list. Cessna fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 17:41
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Cessna posted:Yes, agreed. There are people who honestly believe nobody used tanks in Vietnam because the jungles were just too dense. There are also people who think the Viet Cong were the main regular force of the North. The two groups overlap quite heavily. DoubleAughtMeowMix posted:I'm interested in historicals, especially WWI and/or Cold War between Vietnam and '90 around the world. Do any games cover that second time period in particular? Other than what's mentioned, it's rumored, with the release of their 2014 teaser, that FoW will go WWI this year. I haven't really played anything in the other time frames mostly due to my poor rear end being able to only (barely) afford one time period at a time. I really should limit to just one army at a time, but I am terrible at not playing Pokemon with anything that involves 'collecting.'
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Jan 7, 2014 18:28
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Anyone else excited about Sails of Glory? I have the starter set on its way (I should've just done the drat Kickstarter), but I'm sure I'll be buying like, every single ship.
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Jan 15, 2014 14:38
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Colonial Air Force posted:Anyone else excited about Sails of Glory? I have the starter set on its way (I should've just done the drat Kickstarter), but I'm sure I'll be buying like, every single ship. Not about the game as such, as I like Trafalgar just fine. But an option for ships that might not look as awesome as my Langton miniatures, but doesn't fall apart if I look at them? That sounds nice.
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Jan 15, 2014 15:29
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lilljonas posted:Not about the game as such, as I like Trafalgar just fine. But an option for ships that might not look as awesome as my Langton miniatures, but doesn't fall apart if I look at them? That sounds nice. Yeah, I definitely plan on using their ships in other games (e.g., "Trafalgar", "Kiss Me, Hardy!"), but the game itself actually looks pretty fun, and the varied rules can get pretty complex if you dig in to the manual. http://www.aresgames.eu/get/SGN001A-Rulebook-EN_web.pdf
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Jan 15, 2014 19:52
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Yeah Im really wishing I had back the Kickstarter as it looks fantastic. I came close but it seemed pricey, but now Ive seen the RRP Im kicking myself. Its very expensive. I really like X Wing and Wings of War and Ive never really got round to doing my Rod Langton ships justice or geting into Trafalgar enough. This looks like a really quick and easy compromise.
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Jan 15, 2014 20:23
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I have Sails of Glory and I really like it. Simple enough to be easy to play, but enough detail to really sink your teeth into. I'd like to have more mats and ships to play a really large game but it would take time.
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I bought my buddy Muskets and Tomahawks for his birthday, and picked up some Perry Miniatures and paints so we can play some games together. This is my first time painting in about 10 years, and it's actually been a lot of fun. I'm fudging a box of perry plastic British to be Americans and French, and I have some Stockbridge Indians coming by mail. Anyway, I'll try and post some work in progress screens over the next couple months, please excuse the picture quality. 
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Jan 19, 2014 06:56
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They look great. Welcome back to the hobby-M&T is a great game.
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Jan 19, 2014 08:31
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Yeah, M&T owns. Also, not sure if you're doing F&I or AWI (I'm guessing the latter based on the gaitered trousers) , but either way, American regulars don't differ that much from their British counterparts, so fudging it shouldn't be hard. The Americans copied British style early on. The French aren't terribly different either, to be honest, not at that scale. Some pedantic Grognard (like me) might notice things, but meh.
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Jan 19, 2014 14:59
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Seems like Zvezda have released a T-35. Sweet.
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Thanks to the History of Rome podcast I've been in the mood for Ancient Rome stuff. I bought a ship model and now I'm looking for miniatures (preferably 28mm, since I'm used to WHFB and WH40K stuff. I've seen some from Wargames Factor and Warlord Games, but I don't know which would be the better models. Any suggestions for 28mm models?
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