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Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Current top 7 picks:

1. Houston Texans - 2-13 (.554)
2. St. Louis Rams (via Washington Redskins) - 3-12 (.521)
3. Jacksonville Jaguars - 4-11 (.504)
4. Cleveland Browns - 4-11 (.517) (3-8 conference record)
5. Oakland Raiders - 4-11 (.517) (4-7 conference record)
6. Atlanta Falcons - 4-11 (.554)
7. Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 4-11 (.579)

Scenarios:

1. if Houston wins and Washington loses, St. Louis (Washington) gets the #1 pick and Houston slides to 2. Jacksonville can take #2 if they lose and Washington wins. Basically, Houston should be throwing this if they want the #1 pick.

2. If the Redskins and Jaguars both win, and Cleveland loses, the Browns move all the way up to the #2 pick. Should the Browns win (yeah right), they could potentially drop to #7 (thanks for the tie game Minnesota!). The Jags could win since they play a Colts team likely resting starters, but the Redskins play the Giants who have nothing to lose or gain. Today we are all Jaguars/Redskins fans.

3. If the Browns and Raiders both win their game, which will not happen since they're playing the Steelers and Broncos respectively, the Browns would still pick ahead of Oakland thanks to conference record, but they would be picking in roughly the same spot of the draft, give or take a few spots.

4. The "best" of the worst, Tampa Bay, could lock up the #4 spot at best if everyone above them wins and they lose. Not too likely.

5. Minnesota is locked at #8 thanks to their dumbass tie and neither a win nor a loss will impact their standing, so go Vikings.

6. There is a lot of movement that can happen between 9 and 19 but who cares about those teams.

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Aniki
Mar 21, 2001

Wouldn't fit...
The Vikings will pick no higher than 8th, but can technically pick as high as 3rd. That being said, it is possible for them to lose and still pick 8th, so in order to move up they need to lose and the 4-11 teams need to win. Provided they lose, they can move up a slot for each 4-11 team that wins, though based on matchups, the best they can realistically hope for is to maybe move up a slot or two.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

Groucho Marxist posted:

The win itself was seen as impressive, not holding a Jeff Driskel led offense to 16 points.

Wasn't really saying it was impressive. Just responding to the guy who thought Miami's defense was at fault for the loss despite Bridgewater eclipsing Miami's total rushing.

swickles
Aug 21, 2006

I guess that I don't need that though
Now you're just some QB that I used to know
Letting Florida score 16 points is the definition of a blowout regardless how many points you score. The whole defense should have committed ritual suicide for that disgrace.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Unless you're in one of maybe two conferences in the FBS, a QB is not gonna face a whole ton of good (or at least physical) defenses anyway, so level of competition doesn't matter too much to me, so long as they're in the FBS and playing FBS opponents. Or else we would only be talking about Zach Mettenberger and his backwards leg I guess.

I'm a grumpy gus about QBs and I usually look for reasons to hate them coming into the draft, but I have had a hard time finding reasons to call Bridgewater overrated.

I did see ESPN say some scouts favor Hundley over Bridgewater and that's perfectly fair from a pure raw talent level evaluation, but I can find things to hate about Hundley. It's hard to find things to hate about Bridgewater.

The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Dec 29, 2013

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Let me tell you why Bridgewater dissecting my defense full of future draft picks isn't really that impressive.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
Love that Bridgewater put up maybe his best college game in his last one, and on a relatively big stage. The discussion of Clowney vs Teddy is going to be that much more entertaining.

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

bewbies posted:

Love that Bridgewater put up maybe his best college game in his last one, and on a relatively big stage. The discussion of Clowney vs Teddy is going to be that much more entertaining.

I have a feeling it's going to play out just like Mario vs. Reggie

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

bewbies posted:

Love that Bridgewater put up maybe his best college game in his last one, and on a relatively big stage. The discussion of Clowney vs Teddy is going to be that much more entertaining.
I also like that Charlie Strong didn't pull him from the game so that he could keep tearing it up. He was still throwing with 3 minutes left.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌

Declan MacManus posted:

I have a feeling it's going to play out just like Mario vs. Reggie

That played out? I remember that it was Reggie vs Young vs Leinart with Mario being rumored to maybe go top 3.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

bhsman posted:

Let me tell you why Bridgewater dissecting my defense full of future draft picks isn't really that impressive.

Miami is 116th in yards allowed per game and doesn't fair a whole lot better in SOS adjusted stats

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

Doltos posted:

That played out? I remember that it was Reggie vs Young vs Leinart with Mario being rumored to maybe go top 3.

That was an amazing year for draft hype - one of the most exciting ever. Didn't Bush get an endorsement deal from Nike, and he tried to have the rules changes for running backs' numbers?

By the way, who are the best safeties in this upcoming draft? A Cowboys fan can only dream.

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Groucho Marxist posted:

Miami is 116th in yards allowed per game and doesn't fair a whole lot better in SOS adjusted stats
Well Florida was 10th in yards allowed so there's that

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx

Groucho Marxist posted:

Miami is 116th in yards allowed per game and doesn't fair a whole lot better in SOS adjusted stats

I was referring to UF.

Rasczak
Mar 30, 2005

John Brown posted:

That was an amazing year for draft hype - one of the most exciting ever. Didn't Bush get an endorsement deal from Nike, and he tried to have the rules changes for running backs' numbers?

By the way, who are the best safeties in this upcoming draft? A Cowboys fan can only dream.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/FS
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings/2014/SS

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
Well the Texans have just about locked in the #1 pick. With 2:50 in the game and 1 timeout left, down by 9, Wade Phillips sends in the FG unit on 4th and goal from the 2

So new coach as well I guess

John Brown
Jul 10, 2009

Intruder posted:

Well the Texans have just about locked in the #1 pick. With 2:50 in the game and 1 timeout left, down by 9, Wade Phillips sends in the FG unit on 4th and goal from the 2

So new coach as well I guess

Actually not THAT bad of a call seeing as he for sure needed two scores

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

John Brown posted:

Actually not THAT bad of a call seeing as he for sure needed two scores

I think you're more likely to convert 4th and goal from the 2 than you are to convert a long TD drive with 1:00 left and no timeouts with Matt Schaub at QB

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




The texans are on the clock

computer parts
Nov 18, 2010

PLEASE CLAP
Texans do a magnificent job locking in that pick (no pun intended).

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves
By far the most appropriate way to end Matt Schaub's Texans career

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it
Pre-emptive terrible writer headline "A TALE OF TWO PICKS"

"With the last pick of Matt Schaub's Texans career, he seals the first pick in the draft..."

Intruder
Mar 5, 2003

I got a taste for blown saves

Spoeank posted:

Pre-emptive headline "A TALE OF TWO PICKS"

"With the last pick of Matt Schaub's Texans career, he seals the first pick in the draft..."

This needs to be the draft GDT title

Also it was funnier before you explained it

bhsman
Feb 10, 2008

by exmarx
Are there any clips up of Bridgewater vs Miami? I missed the game and wasn't able to evaluate him.

Aniki
Mar 21, 2001

Wouldn't fit...
The Vikings secured the 8th pick in the draft today and at least through the early games, they wouldn't have moved in the draft with a loss. With that being said, 8 is kind of a rough spot in the draft for the Vikings. They'll likely be looking at the 3rd or 4th QB in the draft and the best options on defense appear to be at linebacker. The big question will be how well both Barr and Mack project in a 4-3. I don't expect the Vikings to stick with a Tampa 2, but I think that even with a coaching change they'll retain a 4-3 front. The other options at 8 would be OT, which isn't a need even with down years by both tackles, and WR, which isn't one of their major needs, but could be an option.

Spoeank
Jul 16, 2003

That's a nice set of 11 dynasty points there, it would be a shame if 3 rings were to happen with it

Intruder posted:

This needs to be the draft GDT title

Also it was funnier before you explained it

The joke is that it will actually be a lovely sportswriter's title & first sentence. Maybe I went too far. Maybe I didn't not go too far enough :colbert:

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
The Browns should be picking 4th and unfortunately they are also fourth in line for teams needing to draft a QB. St. Louis may hang on to Bradford, but it takes a special kind of suck to get a top 5 pick and end up with the 3rd-4th rated passer.

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.
I realize Hoyer is still a unproven factor and not someone you should totally bank on, but considering how many teams are freaking out over QB, I don't think it'd be a bad idea for Cleveland to hitch their ride on him and draft a backup in the 2nd round or something in case things fall through. Of course, if Cleveland did this, Cleveland dictates that Hoyer is a complete flash-in-the-pan bust.

Doltos
Dec 28, 2005

🤌🤌🤌
Well I guess the 12th overall pick is nice but those moral victories over the Redskins and Lions sure did screw the Giants out of some better prospects.

TheBizzness
Oct 5, 2004

Reign on me.

Doltos posted:

Wasn't really saying it was impressive. Just responding to the guy who thought Miami's defense was at fault for the loss despite Bridgewater eclipsing Miami's total rushing.

Except I never said in any way shape or form anything you are attributing to me.

Arschlochkind
Mar 29, 2010

:stare:
Ahem.

Relentlessboredomm posted:

You're not drafting top five Houston. Jesus, take a breath and look at your drat schedule. Atlanta is a touch more likely but they'll likely grab another 2 wins as well.

Relentlessboredomm posted:

You're not drafting top five Houston. Jesus, take a breath and look at your drat schedule. Atlanta is a touch more likely but they'll likely grab another 2 wins as well.

Relentlessboredomm posted:

You're not drafting top five Houston. Jesus, take a breath and look at your drat schedule. Atlanta is a touch more likely but they'll likely grab another 2 wins as well.

That was when we were 2-8. :banjo:

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby
pre:
HOU	2.0	143.0	113.0	0.559
WAS	3.0	130.0	126.0	0.508
JAC	4.0	129.0	127.0	0.504
CLE	4.0	132.0	124.0	0.516
OAK	4.0	133.0	123.0	0.520

ATL	4.0	141.5	114.5	0.553
TB	4.0	146.0	110.0	0.570
MIN	5.5	130.0	126.0	0.508
BUF	6.0	133.0	123.0	0.520
DET	7.0	116.0	140.0	0.453

TEN	7.0	129.0	127.0	0.504
NYG	7.0	131.0	125.0	0.512
STL	7.0	141.0	115.0	0.551
CHI	8.0	118.0	138.0	0.461
PIT	8.0	120.0	136.0	0.469

DAL	8.0	122.0	134.0	0.477
BAL	8.0	124.0	132.0	0.484
NYJ	8.0	125.0	131.0	0.488
MIA	8.0	134.0	122.0	0.523
GB	8.5	115.0	141.0	0.449
PHI	9.0	116.0	140.0	0.453
Top 15 are locked in.

Hockles
Dec 25, 2007

Resident of Camp Blood
Crystal Lake

No change in Strength of Schedule based on PHI/DAL ?

Wanvig
Sep 8, 2003

Arschlochkind posted:

Ahem.




That was when we were 2-8. :banjo:

I wonder when people are going to believe our meltdowns and not just write them off.

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Wanvig posted:

I wonder when people are going to believe our meltdowns and not just write them off.

Actually melting down this year helped.

Groucho Marxist
Dec 9, 2005

Do you smell what The Mauk is cooking?

Wanvig posted:

I wonder when people are going to believe our meltdowns and not just write them off.

Wow your team is really lovely you sure showed us

bobby2times
Jan 9, 2010

kalensc posted:

pre:
HOU	2.0	143.0	113.0	0.559
WAS	3.0	130.0	126.0	0.508
JAC	4.0	129.0	127.0	0.504
CLE	4.0	132.0	124.0	0.516
OAK	4.0	133.0	123.0	0.520

ATL	4.0	141.5	114.5	0.553
TB	4.0	146.0	110.0	0.570
MIN	5.5	130.0	126.0	0.508
BUF	6.0	133.0	123.0	0.520
DET	7.0	116.0	140.0	0.453

TEN	7.0	129.0	127.0	0.504
NYG	7.0	131.0	125.0	0.512
STL	7.0	141.0	115.0	0.551
CHI	8.0	118.0	138.0	0.461
PIT	8.0	120.0	136.0	0.469

DAL	8.0	122.0	134.0	0.477
BAL	8.0	124.0	132.0	0.484
NYJ	8.0	125.0	131.0	0.488
MIA	8.0	134.0	122.0	0.523
GB	8.5	115.0	141.0	0.449
PHI	9.0	116.0	140.0	0.453
Top 15 are locked in.

So who's most likely taking a WR? I'm going to be pissed if the Jets dont even get a chance to draft one of the top WR prospects.

LiquidFriend
Apr 5, 2005

bobby2times posted:

So who's most likely taking a WR? I'm going to be pissed if the Jets dont even get a chance to draft one of the top WR prospects.

The Ravens absolutely should and I think you could make arguments for Oakland/Lions/Steelers.

No Irish Need Imply
Nov 30, 2008
It looks like there's a chance Clowney would fall to Oakland.

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Wanvig
Sep 8, 2003

Groucho Marxist posted:

Wow your team is really lovely you sure showed us

Hey I need this okay

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