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Dolphin posted:The Heritage is run by old Gibson employees that refused to move to Nashville and they still build their guitars in the original Gibson factory in Kalamazoo Michigan. Much better than Gibson, and much cheaper. i dunno, heritage charges about as much as gibson does these days, though they are nice edwards (esp) is probably the best current non-gibson lp maker. even with shipping/customs and poo poo from japan they're still about half the price of a new gibson. and they come with good stock pickups and a less doofy headstock
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Cannot Find Server posted:his guitars would be awful in any other band, but they fit in with orgy's ridiculous over the top image perfectly When I was 16 I was lucky enough to own a Roland 707 during that industrial metal phase of music. I sold it to some guy in LA who sent me an autographed orgy poster. I didn't make the connection it was Amir till I saw an interview saying in early 2002 he was buying up all the Roland guitars so he could put the electronics into those Jacksons since they couldn't do it themselves.
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Bolek posted:i bought a cheap used prs knockoff Jay Turser and i don't have any problems reaching the higher frets. it's actually one of the best guitars ive ever played, barring the cheapish nut and pots Cheap guitars are fine and can even be awesome. Most people just need to practice. I went to a guitar clinic a while back and zakk wylde was talking and signing autographs. This kid walks up with a squier strat for him to sign and some spergs made a comment about squier. The kid heard it and zakk heard it and was like "something wrong with squier??" and he plugged the kid's guitar into a little 10 watt marshall and played the devil out of it. He gave a play what you got, equipment doesn't matter speech and it was something i wish i had heard back when i first started playing.
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Every time I almost write Zakk Wylde off as a ridiculous cartoon redneck biker version of his former self again I hear about him doing something kick rear end like that and just decide to keep liking the hell out of him.
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jesus if you think vai is a boring shredder you should hear zakk wylde
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http://www.basslab.de/pics/instruments/std/basslab_std-v_fl_blue_td.jpg My buddy told me this so not sure it's true but sounds legit enough. Apparently the actor Harry Shearer was browsing shops for guitars that were gonna be used in "This is Spinal Tap" and found a double necked bass. He asked the shop assistant what the point of the other neck was and was told "it doesn't really do anything". He immediately bought it.
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Bolek posted:jesus if you think vai is a boring shredder you should hear zakk wylde mr. wielandt at least had the occasional half-decent song to play endless pentatonic scales and pinch harmonics over
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Fucknag posted:Some guitars have entirely too many loving strings. Korn started it with the loving 7 strings (because when you're in drop A it's important to still hit dem high notes right guys?) um..Vai started the low A bit Also, Haji's Kitchen loving rocked them things... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1iar54Nkl8 also, pretty much by BC Rich is ugly
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GreatGreen posted:Every time I almost write Zakk Wylde off as a ridiculous cartoon redneck biker version of his former self again I hear about him doing something kick rear end like that and just decide to keep liking the hell out of him. that's not an improper description of zakk wylde. He's basically the duck dynasty of the metal world. has been since 1989 when his country roots crept into his playing
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lol you develop serious country roots as a jew from the new jersey suburbs
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country is a state of mind ... brother
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Photex posted:When I was 16 I was lucky enough to own a Roland 707 during that industrial metal phase of music. I sold it to some guy in LA who sent me an autographed orgy poster. I didn't make the connection it was Amir till I saw an interview saying in early 2002 he was buying up all the Roland guitars so he could put the electronics into those Jacksons since they couldn't do it themselves. that poor g707  i will own one of those stupid things someday
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FrankenVader posted:um..Vai started the low A bit Actually George Van Eps invented the 7 string with a low A in the late 30's and was a lot better at it than Vai or the guy from Korn or probably anyone else for that matter.
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rio posted:Actually George Van Eps invented the 7 string with a low A in the late 30's and was a lot better at it than Vai or the guy from Korn or probably anyone else for that matter. i just heard his rocking jams in the elevator on my way up to 3 olives condo iirc
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comes along bort posted:lol you develop serious country roots as a jew from the new jersey suburbs the term you're looking for is 'drat yankee'
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Cannot Find Server posted:that poor g707 Don't. I owned one. It was a piece of poo poo. If you want to play one of the old 24 pin Roland synths just get a GK-1 and attach it to literally anything (a brick, a loaf of bread, a sea anemone, etc.) and it will be better than the G707. I got rid of the G707 and GR700 that I owned because it was so disappointing. Then a friend gave me a GK1 and GR700 and it's actually pretty drat rad hooked up through my beater Telecaster. XYZAB fucked around with this message at 10:13 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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Handen posted:Don't. I owned one. It was a piece of poo poo. If you want to play one of the old 24 pin Roland synths just get a GK-1 and attach it to literally anything (a brick, a loaf of bread, a sea anemone, etc.) and it will be better than the G707. I got rid of the G707 and GR700 that I owned because it was so disappointing. Then a friend gave me a GK1 and GR700 and it's actually pretty drat rad hooked up through my beater Telecaster. really? what was so disappointing about it? the only complaint i ever hear about the g707 is that it lacks a hex fuzz circuit, which can be modded in relatively easily.
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hey thread what's your stance on Airline guitars. Fugly? y/n  
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rio posted:Actually George Van Eps invented the 7 string with a low A in the late 30's and was a lot better at it than Vai or the guy from Korn or probably anyone else for that matter. If you want to really dig deep into the low tunings, you have to also address Huddie William Ledbetter, who played guitar in prison and tuned way down to C so he wouldn't break strings. It was hard to replace strings in prison. He wrote a song that moved the governor so much that he was released from prison before his sentence was up. If you want to talk about who made low tunings popular, you have to address the amazing detunings of King's X. If you want to talk about 7-string guitars, then you have to acknowledge that Steve Vai, in conjunction with Ibanez, put them on the radio when he joined Whitesnake at about the same time his first solo album since Flex-able came out; and sold lots of copies of those albums before it was a "thing" to have 7 strings. We heard them long before we ever saw one. They both featured Ibanez Universe 7-strings. The low bass string was a low B, not an A. The A note was Korn's way of aping King's X's low D. A fifth instead of a fourth, for easy power chords. That was King's X's thing, and they did it so much better. I dunno about you, but I kinda like Korn now because they learned to sing and write songs. But back in they day all you could hear on a Korn album was clicking sounds and the cookie monster. I think my favorite use of the 7-string is on Passion and Warfare, in the song called, "The Riddle." It has tons of low-B on it and it's as Lydian as Lydian can be. Great use of tension in that sharp 7 on this song, and also great use of the low B note. This is it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKMvFjCjs2M I'll just throw that our there, and for anyone who says the man has no soul, I give you two simple examples: One is a eulogy for a friend, and one is a blues-ish take on Eric Johnson territory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3QzbKwcWNE < Call It Sleep https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYtJZAn7by4 < Tender Surrender If you don't like these, I am sincerely sorry.
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Fair Hallion posted:hey thread what's your stance on Airline guitars. Fugly? y/n I would buy them. Of course, the first electric guitar I ever wanted to buy was an epiphone les paul custom in cream with gold hardware and triple humbuckers so I am probably not the person to go to on "good looking guitars." And I still want a fender jaguar in seafoam green.
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Fair Hallion posted:hey thread what's your stance on Airline guitars. Fugly? y/n If you're twelve years old, and your band is playing the junior high talent show, and it's 1987, those are awesome.
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*Yeah, I didn't mean that negatively. I wouldn't be embarrassed to be seen on a date with first or third one. And maybe the second, if I was a little drunk.
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Fonzarelli posted:i like airline guitars, they look like they're wearing suits s'funny you say that, there's one called the Airline Tuxedo [it's slightly less weird lookin though) 
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MotherFuckingT-REX posted:it would be HELLA rad to own as a 12 yr old ill definitely give you that though that would be some next-level swag for a little kid it's either that or a middle aged dork still slumming in his rockabilly band that even the girls in the roller derby league think is a little sad
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ZombieParts posted:Cheap guitars are fine and can even be awesome. Most people just need to practice. I went to a guitar clinic a while back and zakk wylde was talking and signing autographs. This kid walks up with a squier strat for him to sign and some spergs made a comment about squier. The kid heard it and zakk heard it and was like "something wrong with squier??" and he plugged the kid's guitar into a little 10 watt marshall and played the devil out of it. He gave a play what you got, equipment doesn't matter speech and it was something i wish i had heard back when i first started playing. Yeah, this pretty much. I didn't figure it out until I was like 18 after I'd had my mid-level Jackson for a year and assumed I was playing better because of it, and then picked up my Squier one day and was able to play the poo poo out of it.
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thelightguy posted:I would buy them. Of course, the first electric guitar I ever wanted to buy was an epiphone les paul custom in cream with gold hardware and triple humbuckers so I am probably not the person to go to on "good looking guitars." don't get that gold hardware on an epiphone..poo poo rubs off Rhopunzel posted:Yeah, this pretty much. I didn't figure it out until I was like 18 after I'd had my mid-level Jackson for a year and assumed I was playing better because of it, and then picked up my Squier one day and was able to play the poo poo out of it. I wasn't collecting multiple instruments like some of these guys but I would get in a rut with my playing and convince myself I just needed new gear when all i really needed was to branch out my practice a little. ZombieParts fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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Dr. Faustus posted:If you want to really dig deep into the low tunings, you have to also address Huddie William Ledbetter, who played guitar in prison and tuned way down to C so he wouldn't break strings. It was hard to replace strings in prison. He wrote a song that moved the governor so much that he was released from prison before his sentence was up. thanks for the history lesson uncle faustus also if thats vai at his best and most soulful well thanks for cementing how much i hate him boy sure sucks that my friend died i know ill wank around for 10 minutes in his honor [skip to 2:30 for a tender moment btween vai and the dearly departed] also "they learned to sing and write songs" has to be the absolute lowest loving bar for liking a band ive ever heard in my life u could say the same of like 90% of high school bands u have such high standards... and such low standards man thats gross fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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kind of an odd history lesson considering a) nobody except guitar for the practicing musician subscribers have ever heard of king's ex and b) blue cheer, led zeppelin, black sabbath, van halen, etc. but i guess if you're the kind of person who can stand to listen to more than a minute of steve vai and have zero frame of reference it makes sense
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I know of Kings X because I was a teen in the late 80s and watched Headbanger's Ball. I still like a few of thier songs from back then but their newer stuff doesn't really grab me. Speaking of the 80s, remember Gorky Park?  Also, spend your day here http://www.vintagekramer.com/
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King's X was kind of a big thing when I was a kid bc they were from my hometown. My brothers rode dirt bikes with Ty Tabor, his kid went to the same school as me, musicians I played with worked in studios with Doug Pinnick and I think about everyone who goes on and on about how great Kings X is are really trying to justify their boring aging 80s rock tastes. I briefly played in a cover band for fun and the lead guitarist would sometimes bust out a hello kitty stratocaster on stage and melt faces with wanky rear end guitar solos and whip his ponytail around. Does the ponytail add to a wanky guitar solo's power?
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Oh god, what? No! Two guitar shapes that should never be combined.
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so i just found out ibanez put up all their old catalogs, which is a great resource for finding ugly guitars to post. anyway going through them i realized this thread has a perfect mascot (other than poster emeritus and our muse dr faustus): mr. frank gambale frank gambale is according to the copy in one of the catalogs a "distinguished jazz guitarist and sweep-picking virtuoso", which i guess meant something in the dark ages of guitar playing, unlike today where every 14 year old kid can bust out more sweeps than a janitorial staffing service, but none of them know how to write a memorable riff during his endorsement deal with ibanez, his appearance in their catalogs chronicles the sudden rise and prolonged, increasingly bizzarely-dressed fall of one seriously weird looking dude and his ugly guitar, as he's gradually pushed further and further back while young upstarts like the korn guys, some dude from offspring, dino cazares, and even giz butt from the prodigy get higher billing as the 90s wear on 1989:  1990:  1991:  1992:  note: apparently mr. gambale has taken to shopping from the mckids collection https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSlXIWhJ6gA 1993:  1994:  as frank takes a backseat to the guitar ibanez desperately tries to peddle to the five remaining people who even know who this guy is and haven't already bought his signature axe, we note a special friend makes an appearance in part of the same photo:  that's right. none other than our friend, mr. bassface himself john patitucci  1997:  1998:  big changes in 98 for ol' frankie. he finally allowed his mom to cut his hair after she'd been nagging him for ages that he'd never find a nice girl looking like a drowned rat. apparently he also had a disco ball surgically attached to his knees. perhaps from a freak sweep-arpeggio accident? and finally we come to 1999, when gambale's endorsement ran out and his last appearance in the vaunted ibanez catalog, almost as an aside. a tiny photo tucked in the corner of page 10, alongside guys from such well-remembered bands like pitchshifter and reel big fish  thanks for taking a trip down memory lane with photos of some goober's lovely haircut. here's another page of totally rad guitars from the ibanez usa custom shop, which seemed to have been painted by the design team that makes those shirts with the wolves and unicorns and wizards dunking flaming basketballs 
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Goobish posted:can't forget this classic! that's the kind of motherfucker you just can't believe put his picture online seriously and yet..there it is i wonder what he's doing now?
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Dirt posted:This is my "ugly" guitar. Most people think "Antigua" finish is ugly. Reminds me of the 1970s: 
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ZombieParts posted:that's the kind of motherfucker you just can't believe put his picture online seriously and yet..there it is Probably posting in TFR, that's micromancer
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Also those old ibanez catalogues are fuckin hilarious, thanks for posting them.
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