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Argue posted:Any good time travel anime/manga? Important criteria: should involve characters using knowledge of the future to affect (or exploit, or survive in, or learn more about) the past in some manner; that is, if the time travel is just an excuse to fight robots/demons/aliens that are out to kill future Jesus, it doesn't count.
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Is Guilty Crown not good? It just came out in BluRay here and I like mecha shows.
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Dec 23, 2013 23:06
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'Sbad.
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Sakurazuka posted:Is Guilty Crown not good? It just came out in BluRay here and I like mecha shows. If you've ever wondered what Code Geass would be like with the cast of Evangelion... it's still probably not worth it.
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Guilty Crown is really, really bad. I gave it as many chances as I possibly could but I still only made it halfway before I dropped it. It has a great soundtrack though.
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Code Geass crossed with Eva would rule hard. However, Guilty Crown is a show with incredibly dumb character-writing and absolutely none of the bombast that made Geass great. The best you can say about it is that the animation quality can be pretty good at times, but there are a ton of better shows you could say that about. e: VVVV I'm pretty comfortable with calling the protagonist of Guilty Crown a lot worse than Haruto. Srice fucked around with this message at 23:32 on Dec 23, 2013 |
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Dec 23, 2013 23:25
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Guilty Crown seems to be like Valvrave except nobody likes the first one.
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Dec 23, 2013 23:26
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DerLeo posted:Guilty Crown seems to be like Valvrave except nobody likes the first one. Guilty Crown is like Valvrave only boring. I've heard pretty compelling arguments that Guilty Crown is a smarter show than people assume, but I'll never know for sure because it's too dull and unlikeable, right from the first episode, to be worth finding out for myself.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I've heard pretty compelling arguments that Guilty Crown is a smarter show than people assume Anything can seem smart if you read enough into it. I just kinda doubt there's any intentional textual basis for that in a show where a loli in a cat-motif plugsuit mashes holographic displays with her rear end.
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Redcrimson posted:Anything can seem smart if you read enough into it. I just kinda doubt there's any intentional textual basis for that in a show where a loli in a cat-motif plugsuit mashes holographic displays with her rear end. I disagree; I think Sunrise shows in general tend to have a fairly specific vision behind them. It's just that the execution is consistently awful, with one or two exceptions (most notably Big O.)
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I don't think that's unique to sunrise, it just really depends on the people behind the project.
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I should also acknowledge that Sunrise is like twelve different studios working under a common banner.  Pretend I said "Ichiro Okouchi" instead.
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Yeah I get you. Even then though, projects like these just have so many variables that it's hard to point at one consistent thing even with productions with strong personalities behind them. Of course, there are exceptions, but they're usually people that have established themselves in the industry as Names rather than possible employs.
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Redcrimson posted:Gunslinger Girl and Noir aren't super-actiony, but they do have some nice gun porn. I've heard good things about Gungrave, but I can't actually vouch for it. Gungrave is an amazing slow-paced story, but it helps to know it was born from this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqJN3CYRWHQ This was the best quality I could find of the game's trailer, sadly. And yes, that was two guys riding on a cruise missile, flying beside a train, trying to shoot you with SMG's. - to get why some of the stuff is in the series at all. Basically Gungrave's a short arcade shooter (and a pretty fun one) that was expanded out into a full 25-episode series. It focuses on as little of the game elements as it can to create a really good mafia story about Brandon Heat (yes, that's really his name) set over several decades as he rises through the ranks, jumping a few years ahead every 3-5 episodes or so, only to be betrayed and seek revenge in an outrageous purple cowboy outfit. While undead. What makes Gungrave surprisingly good even when it gets to the point where the series follows the game's loose plot is that it's very obvious the writers knew their hands were tied on some aspects (Brandon's outfit and weapons, the over-the-top "boss" fights) and nuked those to oblivion as fast as they could to get them over and done with. Hell, most of the gunfights in the revenge arc just have Brandon in everyday clothes instead of the fancy cowboy duds (and I think those turn up for maybe all of three episodes, not counting the first one). It's well worth a watch if you like character-driven drama, and the english dub is a really good one.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:I should also acknowledge that Sunrise is like twelve different studios working under a common banner. Guilty Crown was Production IG/proto-Wit studio.  Okouchi was involved too, but Hiroyuki Yoshino was the main writer (and the Shu character allegedly resembles director Tetsuro Araki). That series was definitely one of those things best suited for anime music video fodder rather than actually watching it. wielder fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Dec 24, 2013 |
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Dessel posted:Sorry for the wall of text, but I just have to open up on this one: I'm behind a few pages here but thanks for writing this. I love when people get excited about 12 Kingdoms, it's like looking back at myself 8 years ago. In terms of extra material, there are the four novels that Tokyopop released in English before the company imploded (corresponding to the four arcs of the anime), plus two more novels that were never officially released in English (Taiki's second arc and the story of Queen Kyou), plus several short stories (which are about various people/places and I absolutely loved), plus three "drama CDs" from the Japanese DVD release (short audio-only stories about the Kirin, the previous Queen Kei, and Kantai), plus the original Demon Child novel (a kinda sorta pilot for the series). The four novels from Tokyopop match up very closely with the anime, though the first is slightly different without the anime-only side characters (Sugimoto and Asano), and the fourth is almost comically rife with translation errors. I would highly recommend checking out everything you can, as the extra material really helps flesh out the world instead of tying Yoko into everything and making her the sole main character. What I would actually recommend to you is avoiding Tokyopop and going the fan-translation route. Head on over to Eugene Woodbury's site and download his ebooks. If you only care about reading the post-anime material, I would still say to start from the beginning and go all the way through in the order they were written. These translations are far more literal than Tokyopop and can be quite jarring when coming from the anime, so you should start off with the stories you already know to get your brain used to the adjustment, then make your way toward the newer stuff. This may be 12 Kingdoms overload, since you just marathoned the show, so maybe wait a few months to a year and then get yourself into it all over again.
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"What are we going to do, the rebels in the province are up to no good?!"
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So I want to watch an anime. My problem is that I often find anime to get a bit too quirky and (for lack of better word) "offtrack" toward what it should be. For example I LOVED the first seven episodes of Panty & Stocking, however when it switched from being a mature comedic Powderpuff Girls to a slice of life show or some sexual adult comedy it turned me off. I feel like I would enjoy Kill La Kill if it took itself more seriously and didn't have the main character's uniform of that of a stripper. Anybody know of any good recommendations?
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Have you tried Legend of the Galactic Heroes? Other plot focused animes with little/no filler: Madoka Magica, Monster, Eureka Seven
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jonjonaug posted:Have you tried Legend of the Galactic Heroes? Some more for the same list; Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (both Brotherhood and the original FMA series are great, but Brotherhood has less filler and a better ending), The Big O, Trigun, Gungrave, Mushishi, Samurai Champloo, and Black Lagoon.
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I want to watch an anime. My problem is that I often find anime to get a bit too quirky and (for lack of better word) "offtrack" toward what it should be. *Should* is troublesome. More like "It is different than what I want it to be," which is fine. Maybe try something from a studio that isn't known for doing things offbeat and wild.
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Reminder for those of you looking for stuff to watch in the next few weeks that we're going to be starting the next ADTRW Simulwatchathon this Monday! We're going to be watching Tatami Galaxy, an anime about a college student reliving his very bizarre college life and attempting to 'correct' it, and Serial Experiments Lain, an anime about an apathetic girl finding herself unraveling as she explores the internet for information about a mysterious message from beyond the grave. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyYCYd2wHY4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9CXmEUwvgM Tatami Galaxy in particular has some of the beeest writing (probably since it's an adaption of a novel) Zorak fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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I am on a swashbuckling kick lately and have exhausted my supply of western movies and TV shows. Robin Hood, The Three Musketeers, The Man in the Iron Mask, The Court Jester, The Princess Bride. I've watched everything even remotely like that that I can track down. Is there anything comparable in anime? Interesting sword fighting, bravado, adventure on the high seas?
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Lallander posted:I am on a swashbuckling kick lately and have exhausted my supply of western movies and TV shows. Robin Hood, The Three Musketeers, The Man in the Iron Mask, The Court Jester, The Princess Bride. I've watched everything even remotely like that that I can track down. Is there anything comparable in anime? Interesting sword fighting, bravado, adventure on the high seas? While it has no high seas, The Rose of Versailles is about the leader of the French Royal Guard protecting the French royal family from plots / sword fighting folks in a lead up to the French Revolution. Also: she's a lady and owns. If you're willing to venture into reading a huuuge manga, One Piece while very silly in setting is extreeeemely good. It's the best selling manga of all time for a reason. Most other piracy / swashbuckling stuff in anime is mostly about space piracy.
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Don't be intimidated by One Piece's length. Those of us who have read it all envy those who have not, because we'd like to be able to go on that massive adventure all over again without knowing what's next!
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Following up on the Osamu Dezaki front (director of Rose of Versailles), you could also try the anime adaptation of Robert Louis Stevenson's Treasure Island. The TV series has been fansubbed, but I've just found out there's also a dubbed compilation movie on Hulu.
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Zorak posted:While it has no high seas, The Rose of Versailles is about the leader of the French Royal Guard protecting the French royal family from plots / sword fighting folks in a lead up to the French Revolution. Also: she's a lady and owns. I am current on the One Piece anime, is the manga worth reading even then? I think I'm fine with space piracy if it contains the requisite sword fighting and awesome. I am already watching Mouretsu Pirates. Lallander fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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After a certain point (for me it was around episode 130), the One Piece anime starts to hit a story/filler ratio that is unacceptably low. Even then later on the story content gets stretched so thin that at one point it starts using one episode per one manga chapter, completely wrecking the pacing. The voice acting is good, some action scenes are done well, but overall the manga is the far superior product.
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You wouldn't think it but there is a ton of swashbuckling in Cutey Honey in the original anyway. And if you're okay with space stuff definitely check out the various Harlock and Queen Emereldas anime.  There's a Three Musketeers anime currently being subbed by Live-evil. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZzWIvjYT7M No subbes but there's The Star of the Seine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koD_7Etbw80
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Wait, One Piece is legit good?  I've completely avoided it in addition to Naruto and DBZ because
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One Piece is so good* that moms read it, dads read it, everyone reads it. *i've never read it but i think it's hit the point where it has to be good if so many people who wouldn't usually read comics read it
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Each new volume is the best selling book of all time in Japan.
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Dessel posted:Wait, One Piece is legit good?
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Dessel posted:Wait, One Piece is legit good? The show is absolutely fantastic (filler arcs aside). If the manga is even half as good as this thread is making it out to be in comparison it should be amazing.
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Dessel posted:Wait, One Piece is legit good? It's generally better than Naruto and Bleach (although even then, there have been points in time when Naruto or Bleach was more enjoyable for me), and definitely better than DBZ. I would consider it weaker than some other shonen series, though, like Jojo's Bizarre Adventure or Hunter x Hunter. The good: Does a pretty good job of avoiding cast bloat, maintains a sense of fun and imagination, character power-ups generally come from creative use of existing powers rather than training arcs, unusual setting. The bad: Some characters can be annoyingly flat, some parts drag on too long (still clearly better than Naruto and Bleach in this regard, and it's much less of an issue when archive binging instead of following it weekly), can be rather sexist (cross-series comparisons on this point are pretty  , although I will say it's at least clearly better than Reborn about this), avoidance of character death leads to some contrivances, art style can be off-putting (although it's the sort of thing you get used to if you read it for a while).In short, it's an above-average shonen action series. You should try it if you've never tried one before. Edit: I should add that I'm talking about the manga. The anime, like most anime adaptations of long-running shonen manga, suffers from tediously slow pacing in later arcs. Silver2195 fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 3, 2014 |
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Wow, Ash Ketchum really fell on hard times late in life. Is Mitchiko and Hatchin any good?
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One Piece has some of the best Chekhov's Gun usage out there, has some seriously creative and absurd character designs, and the whole world of it is just so insane and glorious in the pinnacle of fantastic fantasy adventure sort of way. Oda loves his series so much, and the attention to detail really shows it. I agree that the women in it are often absurd parodies of the female form, and sometimes he overextends himself in certain arcs with too many characters and things happening at once, but he is more often than not able to wrap things up nicely and go on to the next crazy storyline. I really enjoyed the Skypiea arc, which a lot of folks are ambivalent on, and the entire Alabasta mega-arc, Water 7 mega-arc and Marineford mega-arc are what truly made One Piece take a couple dozen steps ahead of the pack. Oda manages to take character archetypes and stereotypes and give them enormous amounts of unique style. He also apparently really loves pro wrestling, since the latest arc has a boatload of references. The Devil Fruit powers that various characters have are often interesting, and don't necessarily mean that someone is unbeatable just because they have a good type of Fruit. Almost every single character has an extremely distinct design that makes them memorable, even though there must be over a thousand of them at this point. Women can get a bit samey due to his barbie doll style for them, but then he busts out stuff like Amazon Lily and creates a bunch of interesting female characters too. Here's one of my favorite official artworks, a big ol' mural of a bunch of major characters.  As well as a slightly different one that may or may not be official idk  And besides, all that really needs to be said: 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Is Mitchiko and Hatchin any good? Yes. I don't have an effort post in me but Sayo Yamamoto knows her poo poo, Watanabe did the music, cool Latin American setting, good stuff.
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Lallander posted:I am on a swashbuckling kick lately and have exhausted my supply of western movies and TV shows. Robin Hood, The Three Musketeers, The Man in the Iron Mask, The Court Jester, The Princess Bride. I've watched everything even remotely like that that I can track down. Is there anything comparable in anime? Interesting sword fighting, bravado, adventure on the high seas? As someone said, the anime you are looking for is Dezaki's Treasure Island. It was made on a shoe string budget but it's still one of his best works, which is saying something considering what he has been involved with.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Is Mitchiko and Hatchin any good? On the whole I liked it. It reminded me of the slower-paced down to earth episodes of Cowboy Bebop, just without the sci-fi. And it juggles the vibrant colors of brazil with beautifully harsh, grimy, lived-in environments. Hatchin over the course of the series ends up tagging along with some of the ugliest shades of humanity, and Michiko, despite initially being portrayed as this badass hero, is really just an rear end in a top hat idiot that fucks up a lot and talks her way into trouble constantly. And the two are often at each others' throats. It was a refreshing character dynamic for a show of that nature. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jan 3, 2014 |
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