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Darth Walrus posted:And he's given his new friends in the way more effective terrible right-wing a big boost, yes. It's like forming a cocoon of dried poo poo. He's on the path of wealth and success and shaping discourse. Jesus....
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What the hell would Tommy even contribute to a think tank? Like what deep strategic thoughts does a man who, not even a week ago, publicly intimidated a man and stole his mail have?
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Oct 8, 2013 13:44
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Actually he intimidated the wrong guy so it doesn't count.
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Oct 8, 2013 13:50
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Demiurge4 posted:What the hell would Tommy even contribute to a think tank? Like what deep strategic thoughts does a man who, not even a week ago, publicly intimidated a man and stole his mail have? an army of deniable dimwits and fuckheads to do stuff off the books?
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Demiurge4 posted:What the hell would Tommy even contribute to a think tank? Like what deep strategic thoughts does a man who, not even a week ago, publicly intimidated a man and stole his mail have? Tommeh wanted to jump ship. The thinktank wants media attention. Works well for both of them. Even the hardest of hardcore EDL can only take so many years of watching "donations to legal funds" go up tommeh's nose or into stone island's cash registers before they start questioning his leadership, and after a brief boost over the woolwich murder, numbers at demo's have collapsed again. He can't get much more cash out of the rank and file, and he knows sooner or later, someone will try and usurp him (as has already been attempted). Best to quit now, and make it seem like his own decision.
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Darth Walrus posted:have stated that Arabs are innately racist. That's pretty  .
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Jeoh posted:He's the tank. He's certainly good at generating aggro.
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Reveilled posted:He's certainly good at generating aggro. And claiming all the loot
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I am pretty sure Tommeh just jumped ship because of the recent Golden Dawn arrests. He probably knows that if the EDL kills an Antifa kid, he is pretty much hosed.
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Plutonis posted:I am pretty sure Tommeh just jumped ship because of the recent Golden Dawn arrests. He probably knows that if the EDL kills an Antifa kid, he is pretty much hosed. I really, really doubt there's any more to Tommeh's motivation than Quilliam waving a large cheque (or the prospect of one) in front of him. It's also worth remembering that Quilliam has done this before but with much less success.
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Yeah, he is in no way bright enough to understand the political climate around him. Say what you will about the Golden Dawn, but they have some planners in the gang.
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Not strictly EDL related, but I hope to pass this along to the right circles, as this guy is sort of on par with them and I can easily see some sort of cooperation going. http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/blog/article/3145/polish-extremist-comes-to-uk quote:
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quote:It is known that BNP chairman Nick Griffin is also a fan of Robert Winnicki. That seems a little strange, i thought a big part of the modern UK far-right impetus was "gently caress off Poles"
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Well, narratives change. Right-wing conservatism and neo-nazism is pretty big in Poland, and since the UK fash have lost a lot of steam, "gently caress off poles" could become "welcome christian soldiers"?
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Fash and logic do not go hand in hand, really. Polish fash are also nationalists, but they're more than happy to align with German neo-nazis. It's baffling.
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TheIllestVillain posted:That seems a little strange, i thought a big part of the modern UK far-right impetus was "gently caress off Poles" Their goals align much more closely that you'd think at first glance. The far right in Europe believes everyone should stay in the country which corresponds to their ethnicity, so they are quite capable of working together because when the BNP says that Polish people should go back to Poland, the far right in Poland is likely to agree. If you listened to a member of the far right in Europe describe their dream for the future they'd talk about a Europe of Nations, where every ethnicity stays in their country. So they can work together towards that goal in public, even if privately their dream is a restoration of the glorious German Reich over all Europe or the re-establishment of the British Empire or the conquest of Smyrna or whatever. Of course the Roma, not having a nationstate, would all have to be killed, but unlike most things most fascists don't even beat around the bush about that.
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Not to say that we don't still have a problem with immigrants, mind you.quote:Attackers who beat an Italian man to death allegedly shouted "you steal our jobs" during the violence.
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Anyone who proclaims that Polish people should get out of the Uk has never dated a Polish woman. I don't know they they put in the water over there but every Polish lady I've met has been super foxy and very, very friendly. Erase the borders.
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TheDoon posted:Anyone who proclaims that Polish people should get out of the Uk has never dated a Polish woman. I don't know they they put in the water over there but every Polish lady I've met has been super foxy and very, very friendly. Doubly so for Bulgarians. My sister-in-law is Polish too.
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Can we not do the whole "rarr them eastern european women sure are easy and sexy amirite".
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Speaking as someone who is half polish I am pretty  about poles embracing Nazism given the multiple atrocities committed by the Nazis during their occupation of Poland.
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It's a bit harsh to say the actions of a few thugs who happen to be Lithuanian constitutes a problem with immigrants.
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Tortuga posted:It's a bit harsh to say the actions of a few thugs who happen to be Lithuanian constitutes a problem with immigrants. I was talking more about the 'immigrants steal jobs' rhetoric reportedly used to justify the attack. And if you don't think we have a widespread problem with that particular narrative, well...
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Looking at the reports on that case it seems more like a localised argument over some particular jobs rather than the Lithuanian guys attacking random immigrants for taking jobs in general. I don't disagree with your point, but that case doesn't seem like a good one to illustrate it.
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Coohoolin posted:Can we not do the whole "rarr them eastern european women sure are easy and sexy amirite". Yes, please, and that goes for pretty much all of SA.
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Zero Gravitas posted:Speaking as someone who is half polish I am pretty Neo-Nazism is seriously huge in loving Russia of all places, and cells even turn up in Israel from time to time. Just goes to show that stupidity is worldwide.
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Tias posted:Neo-Nazism is seriously huge in loving Russia of all places, and cells even turn up in Israel from time to time. Just goes to show that stupidity is worldwide. More like memories are short, and nationalism has been an easy crutch for the powers that be since it's inception. When things turn to poo poo in those circumstances the rise of the far right is pretty much inevitable.
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Did any of you watch When Tommy Met Mo?Tommy Robinson posted:...the vast majority of people in this country would want the burqa banned, due to the fact there could be anybody under that burqa walking down the street! What's the point in CCTV?! 
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XyloJW posted:Yes, please, and that goes for pretty much all of SA. It's pretty funny that 'sexy eastern European ladies' has a direct analogy for prejudiced people, who stereotype eastern European women as fat middle-aged housewives with thickly-haired upper lips.
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Because nobody in Britain ever suspects people in Muslim associated attire of being up to no good even when they have no good reason to assume that.
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stickyfngrdboy posted:Did any of you watch When Tommy Met Mo? I did not like the undertone of that programme, and I mean the literal undertone where they play that Ominous Mononote on an 80s Casio keyboard while the narrator "sumarises" everything they don't have to actually discuss. Apart from that it was kind of interesting to see those people interact, but it would have benefitted from allowing them all more depth over a longer period - possibly not all crammed into one programme.
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Anyone going to the counter march in Exeter this Saturday?
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Oh dear. http://www.insolvencydirect.bis.gov...0021&CaseType=B code:
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Kieselguhr Kid posted:It's pretty funny that 'sexy eastern European ladies' has a direct analogy for prejudiced people, who stereotype eastern European women as fat middle-aged housewives with thickly-haired upper lips. Interestingly this is not a trans-Atlantic stereotype. British media during the Cold War depicted Soviet/Eastern European women in the 'sexy femme fatale' style while in the USA they were shown in the manner you describe. As a rule of thumb, you can tell whether the author of spy fiction is British or American by how the women on the other side of the Iron Curtain are shown.
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"Tiernan Douieb posted:Nick Griffin has gone bankrupt. That's what happens when you're so racist you do everything to stop your bank balance being in the black.  maybe this year won't be so bad after all.
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Bozza posted:Interestingly this is not a trans-Atlantic stereotype. British media during the Cold War depicted Soviet/Eastern European women in the 'sexy femme fatale' style while in the USA they were shown in the manner you describe. Well isn't the "Western" stereotype for all of Europe south of the Loire and east of the Oder that the women are incredibly attractive until their late 20s, when they morph into fat chainsmoking beardos?
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Maybe if he didn't have a problem with all things black, he'd be in a better situationDarkCrawler posted:
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It gets worse: ----- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...by-9037463.html ‘Nick Griffin might be bankrupt, but at least he’s not Michael Schumacher,’ says BNP head of press, Simon Darby Fans of Michael Schumacher will no doubt be left gobsmacked by comments made by a British National Party press officer today. As if working for a far right political party wasn’t tough enough, head press officer Simon Darby thought he’d make his life just that little bit more difficult when tackling the tricky-to-defend news that its leader, Nick Griffin, had been declared bankrupt. "Look at it this way," he said. "Michael Schumacher has millions in the bank, but he'd do anything to be in Nick's position now wouldn't he." The former Formula 1 champion is currently fighting for his life in hospital in France, where he lies in a medically-induced coma after suffering a critical head injury following a skiing accident. Furthermore, it’s Schumacher’s 45th birthday today, and supporters of the seven-time world champion have been staging a silent vigil outside the Grenoble medical facility where he is being treated. Needless to say, these comments are likely to be about as popular as… Being a member of the BNP must be. During his conversation with the Huffington Post UK, Darby went on to discuss Griffin’s financial ruin in greater detail, saying that he remained "remarkably upbeat" about his current situation being played out in front of what he called a "pantomime society". Griffin himself declared today a "good day", as his status as officially bankrupt has washed away all his debt concerns. Darby went on to praise Griffin for being "brave" and for taking it all "on the chin for the party". Griffin racked up towering debts after a dispute with a legal firm over professional negligence. And professional negligence today reminds us again of one person, Simon Darby, who blew his own metaphorical trumpet for the tough morning of fielding press calls he recently endured. "It could be worse," he laughed. "I wouldn't want to be Nigel Farage's press officer. "Imagine being in that position when he said all those people could come into the country." He was, of course, referring to the UKIP leader’s surprise comments over Syrian refugees. Farage urged the UK government to allow people “fleeing literally for their lives” from the war-torn territory into the country. "At least there's nothing false about Nick," he added. The insolvency details of the party chairman were registered on Thursday at Welshpool and Newtown County Court. Mr Griffin tweeted: “Being bankrupt does not prevent me being or standing as an MEP. It does free me from financial worries. A good day! "Party funds are not affected in any way. Our campaign in May will be our most professional yet and I will be lead candidate in the North West. "I am now turning the experience to the benefit of hard-up constituents by producing a booklet on dealing with debt. No surrender." ----- "Hey, our leader may be out of cash but at least he isn't in a coma!" - a man who is presumably paid to try and paint the BNP in the best possible light. 
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