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LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Merry Christmas! After five years at my current job, watching the work environment slowly degrade, and my coworkers all leave for better positions, I thought it time I do the same. I'm a bit nervous leaving the job security of my current position, but I need to make more than $35k/yr. with five years experience. I was hoping I could get some advice from people here on my resume, since I haven't had to update it in five years.

Resume
Portfolio site, just for kicks (still needs some updating): bjpaskoff.com

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Black Is Black
Jan 6, 2007

BJPaskoff posted:

Merry Christmas! After five years at my current job, watching the work environment slowly degrade, and my coworkers all leave for better positions, I thought it time I do the same. I'm a bit nervous leaving the job security of my current position, but I need to make more than $35k/yr. with five years experience. I was hoping I could get some advice from people here on my resume, since I haven't had to update it in five years.

Resume
Portfolio site, just for kicks (still needs some updating): bjpaskoff.com

At this point in your career, I would strongly recommend trying to find an agency job. You will get much better work for your portfolio and be part of a team where you can grow and learn the bits of the trade that you like. I'm not entirely sure that listing yourself as a MTG Judge gives your resume any more value.

awesomeolion
Nov 5, 2007

"Hi, I'm awesomeolion."

I am seeking advice on what would be the best steps to upgrade my skills so I can find paid work.

Right now I am in my last semester in the Digital Media undergraduate program at York University. What I've most enjoyed in school is making HTML5 games (so far using JavaScript, Sheet Engine, and Firebase). However, my skills are limited to basic JavaScript, Java, and C. I have no work experience in coding, game development, or web development.

Are there opportunities for this kind of basic level of proficiency? If not, what steps would you recommend taking so that I can do this type of work and get paid for it?

ZombieGravy
Feb 5, 2008

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but I could do with some opinions from people in the know.

I specialise in digital portraits in a realistic style and at the moment I just do it as a hobby. Is there any way I could turn this into a career of some sort? I would love to do this sort of thing for a living but I'm not sure if work in my style is really sort after.

Is this something I could go further with or am I best leaving it as a hobby?

I've also got no idea how much is reasonable to charge for my work. So far if I've done a portrait for someone I've been charging £15 - £20. Does that sound about right?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm pretty new at this.

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

rocketpig posted:

Not sure if this is the right place to post this but I could do with some opinions from people in the know.

I specialise in digital portraits in a realistic style and at the moment I just do it as a hobby. Is there any way I could turn this into a career of some sort? I would love to do this sort of thing for a living but I'm not sure if work in my style is really sort after.

Is this something I could go further with or am I best leaving it as a hobby?

I've also got no idea how much is reasonable to charge for my work. So far if I've done a portrait for someone I've been charging £15 - £20. Does that sound about right?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm pretty new at this.

If you want to make a living out of doing portraiture you need to price it like you're a freelance artist – because that's what you are! How you price a piece should depend on how much time it takes you to complete it and what you want/need to get paid in order to survive (ie. include the cost of supplies, a good wage for yourself, insurance, etc.). I would guess that most people hiring you to do a portrait would rather be quoted a flat price than hire you hourly, so being able to accurately estimate how long a project will take you will be important.

Unless you turn around these portraits super fast, £15 - £20 sounds way, way too cheap. There are some great freelance rate calculators out there, google around and find one that seems relevant to your industry.

:siren: ALWAYS GET A CONTRACT :siren:


e: In terms of your other question: "Is this something I could go further with or am I best leaving it as a hobby?" That's really only something you can decide. If you have enough work to survive on it could be a nice change from a 9-5 job, but freelancing of any sort comes with a whole set of new and different challenges you'll need to figure out.

kedo fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 7, 2014

xpander
Sep 2, 2004
I'd like to solicit some advice from you fine creative types. I've been doing IT for over a decade, and have decided that I'm done with it(at least in terms of a mainline career). I have some really talented designers in my inner circle of friends, and have been pondering a move to UI/UX. I talked with my boss and there will likely be a need for this very soon. So basically, I'm wondering what avenues I should explore to start learning. I bought Design for Hackers, and it's been a good read so far, but I'd like to keep going. In the broader context, I'm also interested in possibly pursuing more formal education here - are there any good Canadian programs for design(of all types)? I'd check out anything from night/weekend courses to 4-year degrees, though at 32 I'm not sure the latter would be on the top of my list.

Xibanya
Sep 17, 2012




Clever Betty
Sort of related to above - I currently am in a tax accounting position and I've decided that I don't care about money any more and I just want out! I'm great with photoshop and illustrator for my own hobbyist uses but I've never had any formal education in art. If I managed to put together a nice design portfolio, could I make the lateral career move even if my resume only contains jobs related to bean counting? What value would getting some kind of certification have for someone in my position?

neonnoodle
Mar 20, 2008

by exmarx
I just saw your job posting thing -- you are bilingual in this country's two most important languages and have professional experience in a growing field with high potential for future employment. Sweet Jesus, do not throw that away to become a graphic designer. :psyduck: I don't mean to say "suck it up and like it," but art/graphic design is a TERRIBLE market to enter right now. You are incredibly lucky to have a job in a non-obsolete field.

There is an overabundance of artists, and none of the technological and geographic barriers that once made for artificial scarcity in the labor market. You can hire a great (or cheap) designer from any country in the world to do your logo. Your options as a candidate are down to a) be the best artist in the world, b) be the cheapest artist in the world, or c) network like crazy in your region/niche/social world and get freelance gigs by referral. There are very few 9-5 design jobs out there, and for every one, there are hundreds if not thousands of qualified people desperate to get the job. That's not to say you can't do it, but make no mistake about what it's like out there.

DO NOT QUIT YOUR DAY JOB (yet). If you enjoy doing Photoshop and Illustrator stuff, try putting a feeler out for a few paid freelance jobs so you can get a sense of what it's like. You're in an ideal situation now because you can do as much or as little as you want, you don't have to eat poo poo just to pay the bills. If a gig seems awful you can say no.

You might also try finding a different 9-5 job that includes some design work as part of the job description. In smaller companies it's not uncommon to find one person doing the Excel spreadsheets but also doing Photoshop a few hours a week. That can be very satisfying and avoids the horrors of self-employment and being an independent contractor.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

I'm gonna second the "freelance on the side for fun" proposition. Art is a great industry insofar as you can get paid to do it without needing to work for a company doing it. Freelancing with a solid day job means that sometimes you have to pull an all-nighter to meet a deadline, but you can pick and choose only the jobs you are really interested in and actually be proud of your portfolio instead of making lame stuff for jerks in order to afford next week's Ramen noodles.

Adversary
Jun 9, 2007
Not sick, but not well

Xibanya posted:

Stuff about leaving tax for design.

I say this as someone who earned a law degree, gave it up to retrain as a designer, and is in an excellent job with what might be a bright future — don't take this profession on lightly. It is hard work.

You're not going to get any sort of decent position with just a good command of Adobe Creative Suite. Nowadays, literally every designer worth their salt is fluent in these programs. Decent design involves your brain and your eye first and foremost. Read some books (this is a good one) and figure out if this profession is really something you want to commit to. Because it's highly competitive, full of very talented people, are there are a lot of worthless, soul-destroying photoshop jockey positions out there that you'll probably end up working in.

That being said, if you work/study your rear end off and constantly attempt to improve your work (easier said than done in the kind of positions you'll be starting off in) you may eventually get a good job. Good designers are always in demand, and with the explosion in online, web design in particular is a great (and even lucrative) position to work in. Same with identity design and "branding" (please don't ever call it that).

But seriously; it is not an easy road. You'll be up against extremely talented graduates who not only have a decent (if not great) grasp on the creative suite, but usually have motion, spatial and coding skills to boot, along with an understanding of the history, theory and practice of design.

You really do need to bring a lot more than photoshop skills to the table. I love my job, I love my workplace, I'm paid well, it's very rewarding, and I have a load of freelance work available if I want it — but to get there I had to work like an animal for four years in college (while essentially living in poverty), and intern every summer for minimum wage. This what you basically need to do to get a halfway decent job out of college. (Or be lucky I guess! You will not be lucky.)

I could go on and on about the nuances of this job (and it's so loving broad nowadays you have a thousand different specialities), but my advice would be to do some freelance work on the side, take some night classes or courses if possible, and just educate the poo poo out of yourself about the profession.

But don't give up your job. Something you like very much as a hobby you may not like full time. Try it out, bit by bit, but keep that sweet, sweet tax money coming in. Because you will need it if you want to become a designer.

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Hey guys, this is my first time posting in this thread so if similar questions have been answered I apologize.

Basically I'm looking for some advice on my career in TV/Film. I'm in the UK and last year I graduated university with the 2:1 in Media, Writing and Production with a personal focus on directing. Now, during the duration of the course I took a couple of years out to work as a video editor/general production crew member for a corporate production company. It was good experience and I worked on products for sizeable companies like Bolton Wanderers, Warburtons and BAE so I don't regret it but I'm now 24 and feel like my career has stalled.

I'm in the North so it's already kind of hard finding media work around here, especially because I'm frankly not sure where I should be looking for graduate level jobs in the entertainment industry. I feel like my university course didn't do a good job of teaching me how to look for a job in TV/Film. I've done work independent of the production company I worked at on Flog-it and for a mid-sized film festival (directing their adverts) so I'm not totally inexperienced - in fact I have more than the people I graduated with.

I guess I'm looking for some advice on my next steps, or some tips about getting work. I'm considering just emailing every contact I can find online and looking for runner work right now, and in the long term seeing if I can go to Film School to get a higher qualification but for someone in the North who is struggling to find work that idea seems very lofty.

I know a couple of people around here work in the industry and I'd love any help and advice you can give me about what my next steps should be.

gimpfarfar
Jan 25, 2006

It's time to play Spot the Looney!

PriorMarcus posted:

Basically I'm looking for some advice on my career in TV/Film.

I'm in VFX, so some of this might not apply, but isn't the basic step to anything in the Film/TV to put together a showreel of the work you've done, (and the type of work you'd like to do, be it directing, editing or whatever) and shamelessly pull all the strings you can? Previous bosses, colleagues, former classmates, you name it. Being able to relocate throughout the UK will probably help you as well. It sounds you're probably overqualified to be a runner, and atleast in VFX and film production you're actually better off at focusing on what you enjoy the most and then apply for junior positions within that niche instead of trying to work your way up from the bottom.

Again, I'm not too familiar with the current environment of Film/TV production in the UK, and you've probably thought of this idea already :)

gimpfarfar fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Feb 3, 2014

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

gimpfarfar posted:

I'm in VFX, so some of this might not apply, but isn't the basic step to anything in the Film/TV to put together a showreel of the work you've done, (and the type of work you'd like to do, be it directing, editing or whatever) and shamelessly pull all the strings you can? Previous bosses, colleagues, former classmates, you name it. Being able to relocate throughout the UK will probably help you as well. It sounds you're probably overqualified to be a runner, and atleast in VFX and film production you're actually better off at focusing on what you enjoy the most and then apply for junior positions within that niche instead of trying to work your way up from the bottom.

Again, I'm not too familiar with the current environment of Film/TV production in the UK, and you've probably thought of this idea already :)

Hey, thanks for the reply. You're right that I'm probably overqualified, and I do feel like I'd be taking a step back starting from the bottom, but right now I feel like any step would be good.

I have got a lot to show, and some contacts I can get in-touch with so I'll start pulling those strings. I'm also happy to relocate, and I'm currently a couple of lessons away from passing my driving test so hopefully that will be a use help.

gimpfarfar
Jan 25, 2006

It's time to play Spot the Looney!
Sounds like you're good to go then!

If you really want to get moving, I'd still start with applying for what you'd really love to do first, and then gradually go for the more available or easy-to-get positions from there. You can only do so much in terms of collecting a showreel and writing a good letter to companies and use your contacts, but when it comes down to it it's about setting yourself up in the best possible position to catch a break and get lucky. Projects come and go all the time, and so does the need for people.

In VFX it's taken to an extreme, but I'm sure the same applies to all project-based creative endeavours - so keep applying as you go along and when you've got new stuff to show.

Also, speaking of VFX, motion graphics and CG in general, even smaller vendors often have an in-house editor or I/O-dude. So if editing is something you'd like to get into, don't neglect that part of the industry. The same is true for ad agencies to some extent, as well as pre-vis companies.

gimpfarfar fucked around with this message at 14:20 on Feb 4, 2014

justcola
May 22, 2004

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

PriorMarcus posted:

Hey, thanks for the reply. You're right that I'm probably overqualified, and I do feel like I'd be taking a step back starting from the bottom, but right now I feel like any step would be good.

I have got a lot to show, and some contacts I can get in-touch with so I'll start pulling those strings. I'm also happy to relocate, and I'm currently a couple of lessons away from passing my driving test so hopefully that will be a use help.

The BBC is a good port of call and always seem to be hiring. As you live near Manchester, Media City isn't too hard to get to.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/careers/

I'd recommend starting out doing some work experience or getting on a trainee scheme as that seems to be the way in, though you might get lucky and go straight into a job. Also, different areas of the country do different things, I think in Bristol for example they do all the nature stuff, in Wales they do a lot of the Drama and so on. There's also a lot of independent tv companies in the north west, crocodile media and bigger pictures are 2 off the top of my head, google for more. Also can't harm to send an e-mail to your tutors asking if they have any advice or know of any opportunities.

Shnooks
Mar 24, 2007

I'M BEING BORN D:
I don't know if this is the right thread, but does anyone here have experience with artist residencies?

I graduated with a BFA in Fibers in 2012 and took a day job doing something unrelated. I haven't made any work since as I kind of burnt out. I feel like doing a week of nothing but making poo poo in a new environment will be good for me, but the process of applying seems rather daunting right now. My portfolio is crap and I have nothing that a residency would really want to support. In addition, because I can't quit my day job I can't stay at a residency longer than a week or so.

Just looking for other people's experiences.

Beat.
Nov 22, 2003

Hey, baby, wanna come up and see my etchings?
Best bet is to look at past residents at wherever you're interested. Residencies basically fall into two categories, the invite-only hosted residencies and the pay-to-play variety. Most of the paid / subsidised residencies (Anderson Ranch, Penland, etc.) are gained through reputation/personal network by people who are well established in their field - that is, people who are showing/have shown work regularly and are basically career artists. I have never heard of / seen a prestigious residency not go to someone who didn't fit that bill or wasn't blowing someone on the board of directors.

The ones that are pay-to-play are usually just an issue of coughing up the dough and work examples that show you wont wreck their facilities out of sheer incompetence.

I don't know what kind of work you're looking to do but if you can't work at home, maybe look for group / co-op shared spaces near where you live - or consider moving to where some are in the short/medium run. Most metro areas of the US have spaces like this.

PrivRyan
Aug 3, 2012

This rock smells like stone.
I'm in a bit of a stint.

I know what I want to do now, which is computer engineering, but I'm a bit discouraged thinking maybe this career is way out of my reach.
I'm in community college right now trying to get my basics in, but I'm wondering if my grades will be good enough to be accepted for an engineering program at some university. I'm definitely not stupid, as my grades are usually top in my class for whatever subject.

What do you guys think I should do?
I'm not really knowledgeable about this stuff, so I was wondering if I should retake ACTs or something to try to go for a higher grade so maybe I'd have a better chance at getting accepted.

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

PrivRyan posted:

I'm in a bit of a stint.

I know what I want to do now, which is computer engineering, but I'm a bit discouraged thinking maybe this career is way out of my reach.
I'm in community college right now trying to get my basics in, but I'm wondering if my grades will be good enough to be accepted for an engineering program at some university. I'm definitely not stupid, as my grades are usually top in my class for whatever subject.

What do you guys think I should do?
I'm not really knowledgeable about this stuff, so I was wondering if I should retake ACTs or something to try to go for a higher grade so maybe I'd have a better chance at getting accepted.

You may want to try asking this in COBOL or something... not sure if you're going to get many responses about computer engineering in CC.

le capitan
Dec 29, 2006
When the boat goes down, I'll be driving

PrivRyan posted:

I'm in a bit of a stint.

I know what I want to do now, which is computer engineering, but I'm a bit discouraged thinking maybe this career is way out of my reach.
I'm in community college right now trying to get my basics in, but I'm wondering if my grades will be good enough to be accepted for an engineering program at some university. I'm definitely not stupid, as my grades are usually top in my class for whatever subject.

What do you guys think I should do?
I'm not really knowledgeable about this stuff, so I was wondering if I should retake ACTs or something to try to go for a higher grade so maybe I'd have a better chance at getting accepted.

I would research what's in high demand and learn how to do that, i would then demonstrate that i can do that with some kind of personal project that involves said skills.

Super ultra bonus gold stars for making something that solves some problem a lot of people have in your field.

And you better care or be passionate about that area of work and not just in it for the money or because it's trendy right now.

le capitan fucked around with this message at 18:30 on Feb 20, 2014

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

PrivRyan posted:

I'm in a bit of a stint.

I know what I want to do now, which is computer engineering, but I'm a bit discouraged thinking maybe this career is way out of my reach.
I'm in community college right now trying to get my basics in, but I'm wondering if my grades will be good enough to be accepted for an engineering program at some university. I'm definitely not stupid, as my grades are usually top in my class for whatever subject.

What do you guys think I should do?
I'm not really knowledgeable about this stuff, so I was wondering if I should retake ACTs or something to try to go for a higher grade so maybe I'd have a better chance at getting accepted.

You can check your state if they have any transfer programs from CC to a 4 yr school, those are usually guaranteed admission if you fit the criteria. This usually involves getting the 2 year degree from the CC first but this will save you money so its not a bad thing. Just make sure the courses you take will transfer and you are gold. ACT scores shouldn't matter as much if you are transferring from CC as well. Also maybe consider talking to some college advisors for schools you'd be interested in, they'd probably give you better individualized feedback to your situation.

As far as classes go, if you are comfortable with math and like physics/hardware you should be fine. Take a circuits course or Digital Design and/or Equivalent and see how that feels if you are nervous about the material.

Honestly if you do the work, make use of the resources available at the school, including classmates for study groups and the like and that'll make any academic hurdles much easier but I have a feeling you'll do fine if you are the kind of student to be top of the class in other subjects.

Also just remember, for any engineering discipline, Internships and Personal Projects are what gets you the job when you graduate, worth more than GPA(Within reason) or anything else. Go to career fairs, find school clubs or communities online, etc etc.

DisDisDis
Dec 22, 2013
Hello. I'm graduating HS this year and I'm trying to decide where to go. I'm thinking of majoring in illustration (based on the recommendations of various college reps) but I'm not resolutely committed to it and all the schools I've been accepted to so far have a foundation year.
I've gotten into CCA, PNCA and Cornish so far with merit scholarships from CCA and PNCA. If anyone here has attended these schools I'd love to hear about your experience.
Additionally, I'm wondering how important going to one of the 'top' schools (in terms of reputation) is as long as you avoid the for profit degree mill bracket. SIAC is waving application fees right now and MICA is still accepting applications so I'm considering applying to them. I think my portfolio is strong but I have a 2.9 GPA and I'll be getting my GED instead of graduating. (I have some pretty debilitating health problems.)
Thanks art advice goons!

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

You could always look up the programs at the various schools and maybe try to find some alumnus' portfolios or senior shows. Often times faculty will be willing to answer some questions and you can see if you like their answers. Personally, though, I would mean towards whoever was offering me the better scholarship. Student loans are a huge bitch to pay on an artist's salary.

TheDart
Jan 7, 2010

Does anyone here have any experience with Cogswell Polytechnical College in Sunnyvale, CA? A rep came and gave a presentation during my community college animation class this week and the films that were shown were pretty stellar, especially for student films. I'm going to hit their open house this weekend, but I was curious to know if anyone here has dealt with them at all, be it as a student, knowing someone who went, or even hiring its graduates. I'm looking at the Digital Art & Animation program in specific.

For a private art school, the tuition seems pretty reasonable ($16k/year, before scholarships) -- but my husband went to SCAD, so my bar for "reasonable" is pretty loving skewed. I'm looking into it as an alternative to San Jose State not only because their program is so damned difficult to get into, but because I'm really drawn to the more focused, specific training I could get at a dedicated art school, and it has very small class sizes (20 or fewer students per class is the norm).

PriorMarcus
Oct 17, 2008

ASK ME ABOUT BEING ALLERGIC TO POSITIVITY

Has anyone here had to do a Talent Q Elements Verbal test before? It's a timed test that requires you to read increasingly long paragraphs of text and answer questions about them in 60 seconds.

For some reason the BBC requires you to pass one of these to get onto their Trainee Scheme/Talent Pool selection and it was horrible.

I scored 'above average' on the practice test but the entire thing is clearly designed to be intimidating and apparently gets harder the better you do, well by the end of it I was having to read three full paragraphs of a statistics report and then answer questions about its content. I think I did okay. I know I made a couple of dumb mistakes, but if it really does get harder the better you do then I did better on the real exam than the practice one.

I should find out this Thursday/Friday how I did but I feel kind of lovely and nervous about it. The practice test gave you a score but the real one doesn't, which seems a little cruel to me as I can't figure out why they would withhold it.

Does anyone have any experience with something similar or even the BBC schemes? Any advice or words of comfort? I feel like my career opportunity is basically riding on a pop quiz right now.

Cartyisme
Dec 23, 2011

TheDart posted:

For a private art school, the tuition seems pretty reasonable ($16k/year, before scholarships) -- but my husband went to SCAD, so my bar for "reasonable" is pretty loving skewed. I'm looking into it as an alternative to San Jose State not only because their program is so damned difficult to get into, but because I'm really drawn to the more focused, specific training I could get at a dedicated art school, and it has very small class sizes (20 or fewer students per class is the norm).

As someone who went to San Jose State and knew a multitude of very talented art students I would say you should look into it a bit further. The program is heavily impacted, so the BFA program has a lot of competition, but it serves to push the students further. The classes are hard though, and the program is serious, so be ready to invest a lot of time and money but even so not only will you get a good education in Art stuff but you'll also be afforded the chance to take academic classes with professors who are interested in their field and not just there to help art students fill their BA requirements. Furthermore the program does a really awesome job of connecting students with future employers. If you end up heading that way be sure to take Mr. Leddy's Philosophy of Aesthetics class. I learned more about art in those classes then I did in any drawing class. Barron Storeys Conceptual Illustration class is also very awesome.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

I don't know what art school is like, but I really really enjoyed going through an art program at a regular 4-year school. If it's a good program, you get the good art classes, but then you get to explore other topics and find other interests that only serve to make you a more well - rounded person which I think shows up in an artist's work.

Edit: Fixed stupid phone typos.

mutata fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Apr 7, 2014

TheDart
Jan 7, 2010

Wisdom. Thank you both.

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
Hi, artgoons. I'm looking for some advice on how to get started on a graphic design education. I don't necessarily want to go fully into a graphic design career, but I would ideally like something that incorporates it where it would be an asset. I graduated in 2011 with a B.S. degree (unrelated) and am working full time right now doing somewhat menial office work. It's not something I want to do long term, so I'm planning to go back to school part time to study both computer science and graphic design.

I'm totally prepared to have long days where I work a full 8 hours followed by another few hours of class. My problem is that the community colleges near me rarely offer art classes at night or online. My hours are flexible, but not so much that I can take a class right in the middle of the day. I might be able to take one afternoon class a week if my boss allows me to make up the hours on another day, but progress on a degree/certificate would be slow.

What options do I have for pursuing a solid, reasonably paced education in graphic design that I can do part time? I'm not limiting it to just communty college classes, but I would prefer a format that includes deadlines so that I'm motivated by the sense of urgency. Also, free online resources are always welcome.

Pistol Packin Poet
Nov 5, 2012

Everyone needs an
escape goat!
I don't know where to put this, but:

I recently got a job offer for a design firm located in Arizona. While I was giddy with joy getting a job offer, I was quite wary about how I would be getting paid as a Designer for the company. The email states that "You will be paid on commission base as a company employee," while breaking down the payment structures per project. The job is "employment at will".

Now I never heard of a firm paying designers based on commission based payment. Is this normal? And should I take this offer?

ErectorBeast
Sep 19, 2010

"I do not fear death, in view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."
Several questions about CG education incoming:

I'm currently in the Air Force. I enlisted shortly after graduating high school and plan on separating early (before my contract is up) sometime around mid-next year. I am going to apply to several schools this fall, and then begin my education in the fall of 2015. I've read into the requirements a bit for entering an art program, and they all put a big emphasis on your portfolio. Unfortunately, I don't have one. I took a CG course my last semester of high school and fell in love, and would like to make a career out of it.

What are my options? Would I be able to learn Maya and build an acceptable portfolio within about 8 months? How tough are colleges on portfolios from first-year students? If I couldn't realistically build a good enough portfolio in that time frame, is it possible to enter with an undecided major, continue to work on my portfolio, and then transfer to an art major? I'll be using the GI Bill to pay for the majority of my schooling, and it covers 100% of tuition for 3 years at any public school in the country, or 75% at most private schools. What are some west coast public schools with good art programs?

Thank you so much in advance. I know it's a lot of questions.

pipes!
Jul 10, 2001
Nap Ghost

Pistol Packin Poet posted:

Now I never heard of a firm paying designers based on commission based payment. Is this normal? And should I take this offer?

This sounds absolutely terrible. No.

eig
Oct 16, 2008

I've been at my current job at a design agency for just over a year and I'm ready to move on. 99.9% of the work that I do there is production work for a major health care company which of course is confidential and not even my company is allowed to show their work on their website. How am I supposed to update my portfolio to apply to new jobs if I'm technically/legally not allowed to show it to anyone? I can't just show them my college portfolio from 2 years ago. I heard I could scrub all the copy/logos but I feel like that kind of defeats the purpose as a production artist.. I'm just really confused about how I could show potential employers that I am ~*amazing*~ at following a brand, and can make numerous documents of the same nature with consistency without just basically handing them the lorem ipsum templates I started with.

gimpfarfar
Jan 25, 2006

It's time to play Spot the Looney!

eig posted:

How am I supposed to update my portfolio to apply to new jobs if I'm technically/legally not allowed to show it to anyone?

I know a lot of people have private, passworded showreels on Vimeo to get around this problem.
Don't make it public, and only give out the link to potential future employers in connection with your applications or make it available per request. I probably wouldn't touch the logos or watermarks.

I take it your portfolio isn't a video file though, but I'm sure you can come up with a similar setup. If they come after you you might have to take it down, but why would they?

qirex
Feb 15, 2001

I've always had printouts of more sensitive stuff, it doesn't solve the "what can I put on my website" problem but at the very least you have more to show if someone does contact you.

Even if password-protected you may want to scrub some details if there's anything dubious.

OtherworldlyInvader
Feb 10, 2005

The X-COM project did not deliver the universe's ultimate cup of coffee. You have failed to save the Earth.


Assuming you had the requisite design skills and experience for an art director position, would an education in business be seen as a major asset or largely irrelevant?

kedo
Nov 27, 2007

Probably depends on the size of the firm. Small, definitely a plus as you'd likely need to wear lots of hats, some of which might lean more towards the business side of things. Large, maybe.

ScaryJen
Jan 27, 2008

Keepin' it classy.
College Slice
I just enrolled in a community college AFA program and I'm on the fence about transferring later to get a BFA. It's not like I have to decide right this minute, but I'm trying to plan as far ahead as possible. I'm mainly studying jewelry design and getting a certificate, and majoring in Painting and Drawing as well. My plan is to be a bench jeweler as my "day job", possibly work my way up to designing (depending on where I get hired, if it was a chain jeweler I'd design independently), while doing writing and illustration/game art assets on the side. If some of my other projects/work took off, I definitely still see myself doing metal sculpture and jewelry.

I'm looking to build a skill set as opposed to getting a degree, but I've never really gotten any formal art education before now. Would the advanced art classes offered from a university be worth it? There's actually a few sculpture/metalsmithing/glass and other fine art studios that offer classes in my area, so I'm wondering if that might be a better route? Has anyone here gotten a fine arts degree who can weigh in? I'd be looking at majoring in Painting and Drawing, with glass/sculpture classes as my art electives and possible minor. I'm going full time and basically living on loans while I'm in school, so it's a pretty big difference in debt between the two.

JuniperCake
Jan 26, 2013

ScaryJen posted:


I'm looking to build a skill set as opposed to getting a degree, but I've never really gotten any formal art education before now. Would the advanced art classes offered from a university be worth it? There's actually a few sculpture/metalsmithing/glass and other fine art studios that offer classes in my area, so I'm wondering if that might be a better route? Has anyone here gotten a fine arts degree who can weigh in?

Honestly, quality of education in a college depends almost entirely on the professors you get. Whether the class is advanced or for beginners, a good teacher will be be able to help you develop your skills. Whether a course is 100 or 300 level is pretty much completely irrelevant as far as Art is concerned. The other major consideration would be access to facilities for jewelry/sculpture/metal/etc work. The 4 year schools will probably have better facilities ( Don't assume this, go and check out the facilities in person if you can) but that doesn't mean the 2 year schools don't also have good facilities or that the facilities are worth 3-5 times the price.

Basically I would check out all of the 2 and 4 year schools in your area and kinda scope things out. Also find out who teaches the disciplines you want to learn and find their portfolios. If their work isn't impressive to you, then find someone who does work you like. You'll be much more likely to find someone who will teach you the skills you need if you do this. Word of mouth is also good, while in art classes ask about other instructors/programs/schools and get a feel for things.

To give an example, over here the nearest 4 year school has a pretty blah art department reputation wise, but excellent facilities for printmaking and sculpture. Some of the CC's in the area however have teachers that have trained under people like Burne Hogarth and produce really stellar work, etc. So in my case, there is no pressing reason to want the 4 year art program for drawing/painting when I can get better training for cheaper. However if I wanted to do sculpture instead, then the 4 year school becomes more attractive because they have the best metalworking facilities in the area. Your situation could be very different, and you won't know it unless you go and get the info on the schools and teachers.

Make sure if you do go for the more expensive school, that you actually get something worth your money. You can also investigate online resources and other avenues for developing the skillsets you need. Other resources plus CC might be better than just throwing more money at a 4 year school. Also 4 year schools do offer other degrees which you could combine with the art in a dual major (Computer Science, Business, etc) that could help you find a job later and is a route worth considering.

Also if funds allow, take more fundamental classes than the degree requires. For instance, a 2 year drawing degree here has life drawing as an elective, and it only counts once. But that is something you'd want to take all four semesters if possible, etc. Or if you don't want the extra expense, train on your own through other resources because a lot of the 2 year degrees (and 4 year for that matter) will do a crappy job of building you a skill set if you just take them bare bones, unfortunately.

JuniperCake fucked around with this message at 11:11 on May 27, 2014

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cheese eats mouse
Jul 6, 2007

A real Portlander now
Interviewed today for a dual web designer and developer role that also included IT and they want me to teach their designers some HTML. I would also meet with clients that wanted any web work and do my own project timelines and possibly budgets. Wondering how much to ask since it's basically 2 FT and 1 PT job? I was thinking around 55-60k (this is the mid-West) possibly more? I'll be running and managing the whole tech show.

I like coding but I'm ready for something to keep some variety throughout the week and want to get some web design chops in a professional environment. Boss seemed nice too and my friend that used to work there said it was a great place to work.

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