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I just signed up for the GGS, but my steam is http://steamcommunity.com/id/meksivik/ if anyone wants to add me for some games. I've mostly been losing games against the computer as MA R'lyeh. I still need to find a faction that clicks for me.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:What's makes a good thug? High HP and MR? Multiple layers of defense, often targeted to whatever you're going against. Things like Prot, Def, HP + regeneration, Ethereal, Invulnerable, Heat/Cold auras, and making sure you can deal with being surrounded (i.e. you don't rely too much on defense and you have some way of handling fatigue). MR is important because it allows your opponent to easily circumvent all of your other defenses with nasty save-or-die/save-or-suck wizard bullshit. Lilli used to have a guide up to thugs/SCs, but it seems to have gone down with the Dom3 wiki.
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Jan 6, 2014 06:48
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Microcline posted:Multiple layers of defense, often targeted to whatever you're going against. Things like Prot, Def, HP + regeneration, Ethereal, Invulnerable, Heat/Cold auras, and making sure you can deal with being surrounded (i.e. you don't rely too much on defense and you have some way of handling fatigue). MR is important because it allows your opponent to easily circumvent all of your other defenses with nasty save-or-die/save-or-suck wizard bullshit. It's still there. The major changes are that resistance no longer is a percentage, so it is difficult to be immune to the nastier magics, and luck has been completely reworked. Probably some others, but in general the advice is still as good as it always was. There was another guide, I think, but the gist of that one was basically to try and get your thugs down to as cheap as possible and don't cry when they die horribly (because they will eventually.)
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Jan 6, 2014 08:09
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Signed up for the GGS after buying this in an exhausted stupor just now. What have I loving done.
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Jan 6, 2014 13:41
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sullat posted:Brands are for clearing chaff and pd. If you're hunting ponymans, try a flesh eater axe or something that hits one person really hard.
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Jan 6, 2014 15:34
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To all the new players looking for a game: I threw up a newbie only game. Check the private games thread for information.
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Jan 7, 2014 02:29
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When I sign up for the game it shows my password. Is that automatically hidden from other players?
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Jan 7, 2014 06:25
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Excelsiortothemax posted:When I sign up for the game it shows my password. Is that automatically hidden from other players? yes, it's hidden from everyone but you. it's there so the game host can recover it if you need to be replaced. jBrereton posted:Area fire ruins glamoured units by ignoring their defence value. A Flesh Eater axe obviously has a high chance of missing, and can be repelled even if it hits. In Dom3 area fire from a weapon was dodged by mirror image. Does ignore defence value though. e: I should add that Mirror Image is bullshit. It used to let you dodge arrows. It still dodges blood vengeance retaliation. I would not be surprised if at some point it let you dodge fear, as fear used to be an attack. Either way, most weapon secondary effects can be dodged. In terms of improving your dude vs pony thugs, the main thing is either quickness boots (double your chances to hit them) or flying shoes (hit them while they're buffing using attack cavalry or something). You can probably improve on the armor (jade armor if you've gone with flying shoes, for example), and I'm unsure as to whether charcoal shield will kill glamour or not but it's worth testing in single player. e: also for anti-thug that don't concern with PD or armies, going dual wield is typical, although often you have to hack through PD to get to the thug so the shield helps with that and honestly dual wielding is a bit overrated considering how powerful shield effects are. TheDemon fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 06:34
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There's a new patch apparently It fixes the mindless siege bug quote:-It was not possible to strike ethereal units inside walls. 
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Jan 7, 2014 11:25
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http://www.gamersgate.com/DD-DOM4TA/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascension 66% off on gamersgate for 24 hours. That's $11.90 USD. And yes, gamersgate keys can be activated on Steam.
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Jan 7, 2014 11:28
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I literally bought two copies for 25 each less than 24 hours ago because the sale from then was wrapping up. What the gently caress, Gamersgate. 
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Jan 7, 2014 11:42
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Underkings Update Too many changes to list, major changes include: Significant increment in costs for Dwarven units across the board Rescaling of Dwarven stats Sprites for Gryphon Lord, Ursa Lord and Mountain King Ritual costs now make sense (I think?) Download Here Feedback last time was great guys, more of that please  e: Hahahaha I forgot to set the ressize for the Earthshaker cannon so it costs 1900 resources. Better fix that. Neruz fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 13:27
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Kitfox88 posted:I literally bought two copies for 25 each less than 24 hours ago because the sale from then was wrapping up. What the gently caress, Gamersgate. Email them for price protection on that poo poo pronto.
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Jan 7, 2014 17:32
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Is there a place to manually download the 4.04 patch? The manual download versions on Desura are still at 4.03. I use the manual installations because I don't want to faff about with a proprietary client for literally one game that I will buy from them ever. Sorry for using the word manual so many times in this post.
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Jan 7, 2014 18:14
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For games in progress, is there some proper protocol for updating to a new version? Or is it simply not practical / possible at all?
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Jan 7, 2014 18:24
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JerryLee posted:Is there a place to manually download the 4.04 patch? The manual download versions on Desura are still at 4.03. I use the manual installations because I don't want to faff about with a proprietary client for literally one game that I will buy from them ever. Sorry for using the word manual so many times in this post. You can transfer over to steam with the cd key you get from desura. No idea if it manages the updates properly though.
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Jan 7, 2014 18:43
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/f5mz2t2fo5o5tdt/All%20nations%20MA.dm Here is the link to a completely functional Single-Age mod. I didn't change any national banners. Glancing quickly at the nation list, it looks like relatively few nations should suffer from that bit of laziness, maybe 10 out of the 100. Speleothing fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 19:33
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I was going to post here about getting GGS approval, but looks like someone already gave it. You guys are fast. So I'll ask this instead: Besides MA Ermor and Lemuria, is there really anyone worth 2 or more death scales on? It kind of seems like a bad idea for pretty much everyone to me.
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Jan 7, 2014 22:05
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Pavlov posted:I was going to post here about getting GGS approval, but looks like someone already gave it. You guys are fast. With the increased focus on armies and the midgame I'd tend to agree that putting lots of death on anything but a superbless is a bad idea. You are basically putting heavy pressure on yourself to expand.
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Jan 7, 2014 22:10
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Pavlov posted:I was going to post here about getting GGS approval, but looks like someone already gave it. You guys are fast. If you want to ride the luck train death has some great lucky events, where growth is rather lackluster. Also if your mages aren't old and you can rapidly expand.
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Jan 7, 2014 22:11
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So a question on fatigue. I'm looking at spells that costs say 200 or 300 fatigue. I'm assuming to cast that I need to get the fatigue cost down to 100 or less, meaning either a caster that is two levels higher than the base requirement or a communion, right? Or is it possible to cast a spell that will bump Fatigue up to above 200? or is there a limit in how far over cap you can go?
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Jan 7, 2014 22:12
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Or you use gems.
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I Love You! posted:So a question on fatigue. If you cast a spell that generates over 200 fatigue it will just generate 200 and call it a day. Your mage just goes to sleep and doesn't explode.
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Jan 7, 2014 22:16
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With the sale today I finally managed to convince a bunch of my friends to pick up this game but half of them don't have SA accounts so I guess GGS is out for us. I'm having some trouble wrapping my head around the other options (Dom4Minions, Llamaserver, etc) and the hosting script pastebin in the OP is dead. Is anyone familiar with them that can compare their features and ease of use?
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Jan 7, 2014 22:36
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Why not sell them on the $10 bucks to get an account? Easy peasy.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:Why not sell them on the $10 bucks to get an account? Easy peasy. Tried that a couple times over the years with various games. The couple that don't have accounts entrenched themselves in the "not paying  for an internet forum" camp years ago so that ship has sailed.  \/\/\/\/ It's more like these aren't people who spend much time reading any forums or news sites. Their limited interest in grognard video games that remind us of high school days is as far as their feet go into the pool. Not everyone in the world has bought into internet communities like goons/redditors/etc. MagnumOpus fucked around with this message at 23:28 on Jan 7, 2014 |
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Jan 7, 2014 23:13
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MagnumOpus posted:Tried that a couple times over the years with various games. The couple that don't have accounts entrenched themselves in the "not paying Why spend $10 when you can read reddit for free?
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Decrepus posted:Why spend $10 when you can read reddit for free? That's the one thing I don't get. If they are all Libertarians over there, why not pay for a Reddit premium? Isn't letting someone else paying your dues(the ad revenue from their partners) the evils of socialism?
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Uh, aren't there a few people who play on GGS despite not having forums accounts? rejakor I think is at least one.
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Excelsiortothemax posted:That's the one thing I don't get. If they are all Libertarians over there, why not pay for a Reddit premium? Isn't letting someone else paying your dues(the ad revenue from their partners) the evils of socialism?
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ZeroCount posted:There's a new patch apparently quote:It was possible to attack across unfrozen rivers sometimes I fucken knew it 
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Jan 8, 2014 00:30
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I thought Summon Ogres was 5 gems. Is it 10 now? Am I crazy? I think it became 10 gems halfway through a game I'm in and I don't remember a corresponding random event. Is there an ogre tax? I need ogres. ogre
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It used to be 5 gems, but they were ogrely powerful for the cost, especially for nations with high native E income like MA Ulm.
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Flavahbeast posted:I fucken knew it The bug as I understood it was thus: If, ignoring province ownership, an army could MOVE to the target adjacent-across-unfrozen-river province, then that army could ATTACK over said unfrozen river connection.
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TheDemon posted:The bug as I understood it was thus: If, ignoring province ownership, an army could MOVE to the target adjacent-across-unfrozen-river province, then that army could ATTACK over said unfrozen river connection. I don't get it. When and where would you be legally able to move, but not attack (except due to a bug?)
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^^^ units with mapmove 2 that could go around a river if they owned the province in question, except in this case they didn't, but it still triggered a flag that said A-OK GO AHEAD AND MOVE THEREFlavahbeast posted:I fucken knew it I thought i was crazy
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The move is illegal, but within mapmove when accounting for terrain restrictions and abilities. It might be better to explain it as: If the target adjacent-across-unfrozen-river province was within the army's mapmove accounting for terrain & abilities & the unfrozen river, then even though the river is unfrozen the army can attack across it. This might be a bridge 1 or 2 provinces away, or different river connection that is frozen 1 or 2 provinces away, etc.
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TheDemon posted:This might be a bridge 1 or 2 provinces away, or different river connection that is frozen 1 or 2 provinces away, etc. I Love You! posted:^^^ units with mapmove 2 that could go around a river if they owned the province in question, except in this case they didn't, but it still triggered a flag that said A-OK GO AHEAD AND MOVE THERE I see now, thank you. I almost want to say that they should expand that to work without needing the river and turn it into a feature rather than a bug, but I guess it would dramatically expand the range of at-risk provinces and make intercepting enemy armies even more of a guessing game.
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Hokay, signing up for some Dom4/GGS action. Looking to learn how to play, looking forward to it!
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Even with the bug, you still could only attack adjacent provinces. The bug was that one adjacent connection over the unfrozen river was enabled thanks to said adjacent province being in movement range, when it should have remained disabled since the river is not frozen and also since the province is enemy held and therefore an illegal non-attack movement destination anyway. If you mean expand it to allow armies to attack anything in move range, Flying is the ability that enables that currently. I don't think it would be a drastically different game, certainly armies would have a larger threat range and would end up cut off more often, but it would also enable you to cancel an enemy attack in the magic phase by taking the province it was moving across. Right now you can only do this to cancel normal movement.
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