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InitialDave posted:Current largest displacement. Some of the engines used prior to WW2 were ridiculous. Rolls Royce used 7.7L inline sixes in the 1930s. 
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IOwnCalculus posted:So GM accidentally leaked the Z06 power numbers in their metatags. Can't wait for the impending "that's a lot of money for a Chevy" posts. That thing is going to be nuts.
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davebo posted:I hope they die from fright and their Z06's slowly roll to a stop so their widows can put them on ebay. Will eBay even let you sell an old dead guy?
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Snowdens Secret posted:Will eBay even let you sell an old dead guy? Some of those old domestic guy parts are NLA from the manufacturer unless you have the appropriate machinist, and the lead time is huge.
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Fiat made a 28.3 liter inline 4 in 1911.  The Berlinetta and LaFerrari V12s are monstrous. As for Ferrari's corporate cousin, the crate Viper V10 makes 800hp and 695lb/ft TQ in a non-street legal configuration, which makes me wonder if they could make an emission friendly version with similar power by using direct injection and multiair among other things. That would probably have to wait for the sixth generation Viper, assuming CAFE doesn't ruin everything. I'm betting the C7 Z06 will start over 100 grand, but it should be worth every penny. Its upcoming battle with the new ACR (informally confirmed by Ralph at a VOA dinner) will be one of the the last hurrahs for big engine horsepower wars. Power ratings will probably continue to increase with forced induction and hybrid systems instead.
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Tekne posted:I'm betting the C7 Z06 will start over 100 grand, but it should be worth every penny. I'm guessing it'll start around C6 Z07 range for the base price. Then $100k with any options.
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Chrysler just leaked the 2015 200.     Sebring no more. Tekne fucked around with this message at 01:26 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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9 speed transmission with fuel economy worse than the 6 speed fusion and malibu. Seems totally worth it. The AWD thing is interesting though. If their awd system is capable of a 50/50 split, and is available with the pentastar, game on.
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Powershift posted:9 speed transmission with fuel economy worse than the 6 speed fusion and malibu. Seems totally worth it. Rotary dial shifting - man, they've really bested Lincoln's buttons on the stack. I know what my next car is going to be!
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They had the rotary dial shifter at least on the trucks last year.  I think it looks nice and honestly pushbutton shifting is so mid-20th century
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Snowdens Secret posted:They had the rotary dial shifter at least on the trucks last year. Yeesh. Retrofit that poo poo with one of these 
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Tekne posted:Chrysler just leaked the 2015 200. Hasnt the current 200 been out for like 2 years?!
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coolskillrex remix posted:Hasnt the current 200 been out for like 2 years?! It was basically a facelifted Sebring with slightly updated drivetrain, this will be (presumably) a clean-sheet design.
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I'm really disappointed that the new Z06 appears to be supercharged. With all the attention Chevy gave to cooling and aerodynamics on the base Stingray they seemed to have their eye on track time. Keeping a supercharged 600+hp car cool enough to prevent heat soak in a track environment will be a very tall order. Fingers crossed that they figure it out but I will be severely disheartened if I read about heat soak on the track. Why couldn't the new LT4 be N/A? The LT1 seems to have tons of headroom and I'm sure the track junkies would prefer N/A over forced induction. Let the ZR1 equivalent have the insane supercharged engine. I'd take 550-575 N/A over 620 supercharged on the track. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing how they hold up to abuse. Maybe a widebody LT1 will be in my future.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Does that 200 have a big piece of black plastic in the C-pillar or is that glass? Looks like a giant piece of plastic to me. Which, sadly, wouldnt shock me in the least. Hopefully I'm wrong, though, because that would be one stupid rear end design choice.
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Hard to tell, but I'd guess it's glass: http://wot.motortrend.com/1312_this_is_the_2015_chrysler_200.html/2015-chrysler-200-spied-side-view/
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iwentdoodie posted:Looks like a giant piece of plastic to me. Which, sadly, wouldnt shock me in the least. Hopefully I'm wrong, though, because that would be one stupid rear end design choice. Chrysler making a stupid design choice? Now when has that ever happened?  Gotta say, all I can see in that car is a Dart with a new front clip. So that's gotta be pretty much the most boring car.
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Powershift posted:9 speed transmission with fuel economy worse than the 6 speed fusion and malibu. Seems totally worth it. The Malibu only gets better fuel economy when equipped with the eAssist mild hybrid drivetrain. I suspect we're reaching the point of diminishing returns with adding gears to the transmission, at least with highway fuel economy. The 200 might be geared for more brisk acceleration too.
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Throatwarbler posted:The Malibu only gets better fuel economy when equipped with the eAssist mild hybrid drivetrain. Actually, for 2014, the regular 2.5 was rated at the same 29/36 as the e-assist.  The "hybrid" badge might as well read "rear end in a top hat" Also, unless that thing shifts like a ferrari, you'll lose more time working through that many gears than you would gain with the ratios. I have an 18 speed in the truck, but when i'm bobtailing it's quicker to only use ~6
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Powershift posted:Actually, for 2014, the regular 2.5 was rated at the same 29/36 as the e-assist. The only reason it's a hybrid is because Akerson pushed for it. Basically GM's own engineers and product planners knew it was worthless but the hybrid was added in by the CEO. quote:Last year Akerson asked his executive team to accelerate by six months the planned launch of the redesigned Chevrolet Malibu. He got a cool response. The base engine wouldn’t be ready in time for the launch Akerson sought. Debuting with a different powertrain would be costly and potentially delay the launch of higher-volume models, Akerson was warned.
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So apparently this is the new 2015 WRX STI! Can't say I'm abit disappointed. I was hoping they were saving that wild WRX concept to be used as the STI. http://jalopnik.com/2015-subaru-impreza-wrx-sti-this-is-it-1496968833    
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So they added a big spoiler and some gold rims. Wonderful.
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Franco Caution posted:So they added a big spoiler and some gold rims. Wonderful. I probably shouldn't have had my expectations high, but when this concept is what Subaru themselves was showing us, it's painful not to see that transition to reality.  
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I'm biased, but I like it. I think it's enough of a jump over the WRX and it pays homage to older WRXes before they became blobby round things. Still not a fan of the early 00s black plastic diffuser in the back. Hope the sunroof is optional this time around.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:I probably shouldn't have had my expectations high, but when this concept is what Subaru themselves was showing us, it's painful not to see that transition to reality. Isn't that basically the same car with a chopped roofline, JDM slim bumpers, and show lighting, though? Everything below the glass looks pretty much like the same metal, just the creases look sharper because of the lighting. I actually think the production version is better because it has the same fenders but a bigger, more useable greenhouse. Super raked beltlines look cheap and slit rear windows are annoying.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Will eBay even let you sell an old dead guy? I don't know, I just need the VINs.
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OrganizedEntropy posted:So apparently this is the new 2015 WRX STI! Can't say I'm abit disappointed. I was hoping they were saving that wild WRX concept to be used as the STI. I like it. Maybe I will be buying a new car after all.
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Holy poo poo that is loving ugly. That wing does not fit that car at all.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:Holy poo poo that is loving ugly. That wing does not fit that car at all. It is a Subaru WRX STi. You pretty much just described every WRX STi ever built.
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Throatwarbler posted:The Malibu only gets better fuel economy when equipped with the eAssist mild hybrid drivetrain. I just wish gearing was more realistic to real world usage. Here in Texas if you're not doing 80MPH you're holding up traffic. My cars are spinning around 2500RPM's at 80MPH, if they could drop that to 2K it might get another MPG on the highway or 3. One of my cars would probably handle it just fine at 1800RPM. They're maximizing whatever the loving test is set to though I'm sure, so real world we get hosed. fake edit: looked it up, average speed of epa highway fuel economy test, 48.3mph and 10 mile distance. WTF? real edit: If anyone cares. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.shtml skipdogg fucked around with this message at 19:37 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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skipdogg posted:fake edit: looked it up, average speed of epa highway fuel economy test, 48.3mph and 10 mile distance. WTF? LOL no wonder EPA estimates don't mean poo poo. God I wish people around here would drive 80mph on the freeway. That would make me sooooo happy. loving Washington/Oregon drivers doing 58 on the interstate.
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Guinness posted:LOL no wonder EPA estimates don't mean poo poo. yeah I noticed that too when I was in Seattle... nobody speeds. It was weird, like driving in Switzerland or something. Is everyone just high? Or are cops that hardcore at ticketing on the freeway?
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Linedance posted:yeah I noticed that too when I was in Seattle... nobody speeds. It was weird, like driving in Switzerland or something. Is everyone just high? Or are cops that hardcore at ticketing on the freeway? Cops are hardcore and our drivers are complete mindless idiots. I call them the 'Driving Dead'. Blank staring 3 abreast at 57 MPH.
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Spiffness posted:Cops are hardcore and our drivers are complete mindless idiots. I call them the 'Driving Dead'. Blank staring 3 abreast at 57 MPH.
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Linedance posted:It is a Subaru WRX STi. You pretty much just described every WRX STi ever built. Yup. Who cares what it looks like if it performs how it should? The interior appears like it's a decent step up, and that's what you're going to be looking at most anyways. Speaking of interiors...  The new TT's interior is *awesome.*
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As annoying as seattle/wa drivers are, I'll take passive, sedated drivers over aggressive fucktards any day of the week.
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skipdogg posted:I just wish gearing was more realistic to real world usage. Here in Texas if you're not doing 80MPH you're holding up traffic. My cars are spinning around 2500RPM's at 80MPH, if they could drop that to 2K it might get another MPG on the highway or 3. One of my cars would probably handle it just fine at 1800RPM. They're maximizing whatever the loving test is set to though I'm sure, so real world we get hosed. maybe someone should invent a narrow ratio CVT transaxle that can be attached to normal transmissions for cruise adjustments. turn on the cruise control and shift your final drive ratio so you're idling along.
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