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JT Jag posted:Yeah, but what if she was intentionally launched into a black hole as part of a scientific project? They'd be using her as a tool to acquire new information, not as a resource. She probably wouldn't allow that, and it's not like anyone could make her do it. Man, in that second link, that aurochs (or whatever it is) looks like it broke its own neck colliding with Jones. She just stops it dead right there.
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Roland Jones posted:Man, in that second link, that aurochs (or whatever it is) looks like it broke its own neck colliding with Jones. She just stops it dead right there. Yeah it's a pretty great frame. Might have just up and died. Jones 
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Jan 8, 2014 03:00
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Jan 8, 2014 09:05
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Someone's gonna be getting an avatar out of that third panel.
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Jan 8, 2014 09:25
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"Sounds like you were lucky to get back from that..." - Oh don't flatter yourself again, Mighty Eyebrows Boy.
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Kikas posted:"Sounds like you were lucky to get back from that..." - Oh don't flatter yourself again, Mighty Eyebrows Boy.
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Jan 8, 2014 09:51
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So who gets killed by the ghost when this all goes wrong, Smitty or Parley.
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Jan 8, 2014 10:04
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whoever gets killed, it'll be someone whose brain doesn't fit nicely into a chip that can be salvaged and installed into another skull use the dang robots 
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ronya posted:whoever gets killed, it'll be someone whose brain doesn't fit nicely into a chip that can be salvaged and installed into another skull They tried that two pages ago, Jeanne just seems to auto-gently caress anything mechanical* that gets to close too the annan. The only people who have survived a trip to the riverbed so far are living, breathing creatures so they don't have much choice in the matter. Also keep in mind that robots like Robot are very much an edge case. Most of the court robots are big clunky guys who wouldn't last more than 10 seconds against Jeanne. *(Except the tic-tocs maybe but we still don't know what their deal is.) VVV This guy knows what's up (down?)! VVV MechanicalTomPetty fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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ronya posted:whoever gets killed, it'll be someone whose brain doesn't fit nicely into a chip that can be salvaged and installed into another skull Or just shove Smitty off the bridge. It'll all work out somehow.
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Jan 8, 2014 10:25
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Why do they even have to go down there? Jeanne acts as a barrier across the waters keeping things like the inhabitants of Fun City and shadows out of the Court. The bridge works well enough to cross the waters while keeping the wrong people out.
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Jan 8, 2014 11:04
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Because Jeanne is a soul in pain who deserves their help.
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MikeJF posted:Because Jeanne is a soul in pain who deserves their help.
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Wyld Karde posted:Someone's gonna be getting an avatar out of that third panel. Probably.  Haha, I don't want to post that again! Bonus Kat lookin' goofy:  Edit: Annie with the background. Image will probably need resizing or a changed format because it breaks the 30kb av limit size, though. 
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Jan 8, 2014 11:32
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I've been getting the feeling that Jeanne is only standing on the waters like that mostly because of the guy she loved getting shot by that thing in front of her. They haven't made any mention of him turning into a ghost or passing on have they?
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:They tried that two pages ago, Jeanne just seems to auto-gently caress anything mechanical* We do know that the tic-tocs weren't created by Diego. That's probably relevant.
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Bleck posted:We do know that the tic-tocs weren't created by Diego. That's probably relevant. That and I think the tic-toc that was "growing" (for lack of a better term), was doing it on the forest side, where as Jeanne is on the court side of the river. But yeah, she's pretty much going to see anything robotic as an extension of Deigo, who is pretty much #1 on her poo poo list.
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Forgall posted:That doesn't mean there won't be consequences though. I have a feeling something bad will happen as a result of their actions, even if they succeed.
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Splicer posted:Yeah, the downside to saving Jean being someone dying during it would be taking the easy way out, which doesn't sound like Gunnerkrigg. I think the downside to them removing the court's best protection against the fuckery of Coyote and friends will end up being that they the removed of the court's best protection against the fuckery of Coyote and friends. Hasn't Coyote sworn never to attack the court, though? That's why the court get all worried about renard and ysengrin but not the big guy.
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The Court aren't protecting themselves from Coyote - he's the one that built the divide in the first place. Heck, the Court takes in students from the forest all the time. So far, the Forest beings we've seen that are any threat to the Court are Ysengrin, the shadow people (except for Shadow), and those violent monsters Annie and Ys fought with a couple chapters ago, who may have once been Ysengrin's soldiers. Coyote seems to have authority over all of them by some means or other, and he has nothing against the Court. I hope, by the time Jeanne has been dealt with, we'll have seen more of the politics of Gillitie and can get some nice complexities out of the possibilities of the forest actually invading the Court. The politics overall are pretty interesting from what little we've seen of them - the Court is the only side to have fortified their side of the ravine, while also being the only side to have bridged it, if strictly on their terms.
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GENUINE CAT HERDER posted:Probably.
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RareAcumen posted:I've been getting the feeling that Jeanne is only standing on the waters like that mostly because of the guy she loved getting shot by that thing in front of her. They haven't made any mention of him turning into a ghost or passing on have they? Muut described Jeanne as "waiting" for something, maybe it's that guy.
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I wouldn't assume that Coyote wouldn't gently caress with the Court in some way if Jeanne was gone, whether through personal involvement or sending dudes across for funsies. And I imagine a guy like him can be convinced pretty easily that it would be super hilarious if you let me leave the forest and go run around the Court for a while. But, it's also been hundreds of years since Jeanne/Diego/elfguy, right? I'm not sure the exact timing has ever been clarified, but either way there's been plenty of time for the Court to have researched other methods of defense. Jeanne could just be a convenient legacy. It's also funny that the initial assumption we have to the loss of Jeanne is possible aggression from the Forest against the Court. Which of the two factions seems more sinister and willing to do extraordinary things in pursuit of their goals?
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There already was an incursion into the Court - long after Jeanne's incident - by (at least) two shadow-carrying WooDogs, back in chapter 22. Its purpose remains a mystery, however.
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Don't forget robot being sent back to the court with a wooden arm and a shadow person.
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I liked the last arc but I'm glad to see something with a bit more action coming up. I have a feeling that this won't end badly so much, as just...unexpectedly, though I think the ideas about removing a line of defense against the forest could be on the right track.
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Zenzirouj posted:But, it's also been hundreds of years since Jeanne/Diego/elfguy, right? I'm not sure the exact timing has ever been clarified, but either way there's been plenty of time for the Court to have researched other methods of defense. Jeanne could just be a convenient legacy. It's also funny that the initial assumption we have to the loss of Jeanne is possible aggression from the Forest against the Court. Which of the two factions seems more sinister and willing to do extraordinary things in pursuit of their goals? Isn't Jeanne supposed to be buried and purged from the records though? I mean, some people had her as a candidate to go down the canyon and then they killed that forest guy. I could've sworn there was something about them keeping her from becoming public knowledge. Or, at least, Annie said something along those lines.
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Is there any human living in exile hidden away in the Gillitie Woods, cast out from the Court because he dared to refuse hating the Forest people? Because Shadow2's story is that he lives in exile at the Court because the other shadowmen cast him out because he dares to refuse hating the Court people (and robots). Going "one side is good, the other is evil" is an approach far too simple for something like GC. It's quite obvious there's dirt on both sides, and since the main cast all live in the Court, we're more familiar with the shady past of the Court. Doesn't mean it's evil, and that the other side is flawless.
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RareAcumen posted:Isn't Jeanne supposed to be buried and purged from the records though? I mean, some people had her as a candidate to go down the canyon and then they killed that forest guy. I could've sworn there was something about them keeping her from becoming public knowledge. Or, at least, Annie said something along those lines. Yes, Jeanne is a secret. Even Jones doesn't know about her; it's entirely likely that nobody at the Court does save for what has been discovered during the comic. Assuming the Court doesn't know about her, I wonder if they have put thought into how to defend themselves from the forest, or whether it is necessary. Tenebrais fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jan 8, 2014 |
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Tenebrais posted:Yes, Jeanne is a secret. Even Jones doesn't know about her; it's entirely likely that nobody at the Court does save for what has been discovered during the comic. The fact that Jones cut her off on that subject leads me to believe she knows about it. However, Annie's story won't stick, so she needs hard proof. It seems Jones is warning her of this, and the danger of going off without definite proof.
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Tenebrais posted:Yes, Jeanne is a secret. Even Jones doesn't know about her; it's entirely likely that nobody at the Court does save for what has been discovered during the comic. Jones clearly knows, she's being sly and warning Annie that she should wait until she has a conclusive story instead of a smattering of rumors.
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bathroomrage posted:Jones clearly knows, she's being sly and warning Annie that she should wait until she has a conclusive story instead of a smattering of rumors. What? Is this the next "Annie clearly knows about Kat and Paz" ?
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seravid posted:What? Is this the next "Annie clearly knows about Kat and Paz" ?
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Tupperwarez posted:Was it ever established who was the guy who said, "Y'all are hosed up, I'm out," during the planning session for Jeanne's sacrifice? Did anything come out of it? No, nothing confirmed as far as I know. Personally I think it's the Artillery Man (seen and mentioned here and here. The court might be named after him kinda sorta as well). I say this just because of process of elimination- there's no other named historical figure, nor has the AM been involved much, although I could be wrong!
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JT Jag posted:Jones came to the Court after its founding, so I doubt she knows the whole story. But she's still been around for a long time, and if she's good at anything, it's watching and listening. I would be shocked if she didn't at least know some of the details of the Jeanne case. The Gang of Evil erased Jeanne from history generations ago and Jones has stated she is unaware of anyone with that name, yet we're to assume she lied and purposefully withheld information? We're talking about the Jones who revealed her entire life story when directly asked about it and who gave no shits about openly second-guessing the Dean - in front of the whole Court and Coyote - when he chose Smits as the Medium, and then accused him of being either crazy or plotting sinister shenanigans. That Jones decided the best course of action was to encourage Annie in pursuing her investigation (and "please tell me about it") while, just a few moments earlier, she deliberately deprived Annie of her eidetic memory and absolutely unbiased account of the case. 
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quote:That Jones decided the best course of action was to encourage Annie in pursuing her investigation (and "please tell me about it") while, just a few moments earlier, she deliberately deprived Annie of her eidetic memory and absolutely unbiased account of the case. On the other hand, she knows exactly what the dinosaurs were like, and is in no hurry to help paleontologists fill in the gaps either. I'm of the opinion that Jones knows nothing, but has a sharp enough mind to realize that Annie is poking her nose into a closet with some very old skeletons. She was being entirely honest. She knows nothing, and when Annie has discovered as much of the story as can come to light at this point, she would like to hear it. You know, for being the guy who the court was presumably named after, the Gunner/Artilleryman (I'm assuming they are the same figure) sure hasn't properly come up yet. That is going to be a good chapter, if he ever does.
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Mazerunner posted:No, nothing confirmed as far as I know. Personally I think it's the Artillery Man (seen and mentioned here and here. The court might be named after him kinda sorta as well). I say this just because of process of elimination- there's no other named historical figure, nor has the AM been involved much, although I could be wrong! All the times I've read this section, I've never noticed the Artilleryman or remember seeing his name. Likewise I never noted his possible connection to the school's name. I must be blind as a bat.
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