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HiKaizer
Feb 2, 2012

Yes!
I finally understand everything there is to know about axes!
I got my Werewolf 20A book last night, I was surprised by the mail from Sweden at first!

...and I had forgotten how goofy it is. Reading through it was as amusing as the first time I read through the PDF.

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citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




HiKaizer posted:

I got my Werewolf 20A book last night, I was surprised by the mail from Sweden at first!

...and I had forgotten how goofy it is. Reading through it was as amusing as the first time I read through the PDF.

I'm still upset that they took out Hootenanny, aka The Best Gift Period.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I loved the CCP Easter egg in the Black Dog Games section.

I'll be running W20 next month! This is exciting, we're doing modern day Pacific Northwest. Probably a series of one-shot adventures with an overarching arc.

Possible points:
Big Oil wants a pipeline.
Starbucks-alike coffee shops are proliferating unnaturally.
A Mummy visits.
The Space Needle's true occult purpose is nearly complete.
Music scene...something.
One or two Reckoning hunters have appeared.
The local Sabbat and Black Spirals are getting chummy.

Anything obvious I'm missing? The idea is to have a ton of options to explore.

moths fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jan 8, 2014

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

moths posted:

Starbucks-alike coffee shops are proliferating unnaturally.

:allears:

It could be a conspiracy using Starbucks as a front, but we can do better:

What we know as "STAR BUCKS" is some sort of unknowable cosmic horror. Only a tiny sliver of it can ever possibly fit in the 4 constricting dimensions of our reality, and that sliver happens to manifest as a slew of similarly-branded coffee shops.
What strange fate awaits us as this transdimensional vagrant slowly passes through our small physical universe? What happens when there are too many Starbucks, too close together? What happens when they notice us?

Punting
Sep 9, 2007
I am very witty: nit-witty, dim-witty, and half-witty.

deadly_pudding posted:

:allears:

It could be a conspiracy using Starbucks as a front, but we can do better:

What we know as "STAR BUCKS" is some sort of unknowable cosmic horror. Only a tiny sliver of it can ever possibly fit in the 4 constricting dimensions of our reality, and that sliver happens to manifest as a slew of similarly-branded coffee shops.
What strange fate awaits us as this transdimensional vagrant slowly passes through our small physical universe? What happens when there are too many Starbucks, too close together? What happens when they notice us?

"When the STAR BUCKS stands across and before a sibling STAR BUCKS, the way opens."

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!

moths posted:

I'll be running W20 next month! This is exciting, we're doing modern day Pacific Northwest. Probably a series of one-shot adventures with an overarching arc.

Possible points:
Big Oil wants a pipeline.
Starbucks-alike coffee shops are proliferating unnaturally.
A Mummy visits.
The Space Needle's true occult purpose is nearly complete.
Music scene...something.
One or two Reckoning hunters have appeared.
The local Sabbat and Black Spirals are getting chummy.

Anything obvious I'm missing? The idea is to have a ton of options to explore.

Rage Across Portlandia! The feminist bookstore has a book that the PCs have to somehow get the staff to sell to them. But how?

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

deadly_pudding posted:

:allears:

It could be a conspiracy using Starbucks as a front, but we can do better:

What we know as "STAR BUCKS" is some sort of unknowable cosmic horror. Only a tiny sliver of it can ever possibly fit in the 4 constricting dimensions of our reality, and that sliver happens to manifest as a slew of similarly-branded coffee shops.
What strange fate awaits us as this transdimensional vagrant slowly passes through our small physical universe? What happens when there are too many Starbucks, too close together? What happens when they notice us?

Prince of 1000 Lattes.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

Rage Across Portlandia! The feminist bookstore has a book that the PCs have to somehow get the staff to sell to them. But how?

Now I want the one of the PCs to be one of those guys that pickles everything. It can be a variant of that Bone Gnawer thing that lets you transmute a pot full of random garbage into a bland, but nourishing, gruel.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



In many ways oWoD is my dream of the Nineties. But with katanas and tench coats and uzis. I guess I should have a serial killer active in the area, too.

The coffee shops are probably a red herring, since I need to establish a bunch of fake companies to disguise which are Pentex subsidiaries. Plus it's an old joke that they're up to evil, and everybody would expect it.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
Two words. Tellus Seattle.

Actually, how much of the PNW are you covering? I can pull all the Pentex subsidiaries with offices in the region, etc., for you, if you like.

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


Seattle underground has a 'thing'. Play on the recent Big Bertha tunnel-digger stoppage.

Racial war in Ballard sparked by a Swede marrying a Norwegian.

Greenlake monster.

Admiral theatre vampires stalking the Rocky showing.

Rat city rollergirls, actually black furies. And drunk.

Mages are behind the downtown library's bizarre architecture... and acceptance.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'm not sure how big a region would work, but I think an area centered between Seattle and Portland so they're both an hour drive and maybe pushing into Canada (Vancouver) occasionally.

Tellus is awesome, Loomer, does Pentex have anything else up in that corner?

And that underground object could be a good way to put a previously unknown Earthbound into the game. Unless it's revealed to be something boring IRL first.

Error 404
Jul 17, 2009


MAGE CURES PLOT

moths posted:

Unless it's revealed to be something boring IRL first.

The best guess I've seen/heard/read is that it's likely a big loving boulder from the last ice age(s) one of the times when this was happening.

Edit: to give you more of an idea what I 'm talking about, these things are from the same events, and show up along the Oregon coastline. They're loving huge and loving cool.

Edit2: If I were STing your game, I'd make all these objects important to the local tribes/werewolves...like they're ancient prisons for Wyrmthings, or ancient resting places for prehistoric badasses/ the flood was just the side effect of some hugenormous battle between the Garou/other breeds and a Wyrm incursion, etc.

There's a lot of places you can go with them.

Error 404 fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 8, 2014

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY

moths posted:

And that underground object could be a good way to put a previously unknown Earthbound into the game. Unless it's revealed to be something boring IRL first.

It's already been revealed as a length of metal pipe, buried by WSDOT itself in 2002 :cripes:

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022593902_berthametalxml.html

Gerund
Sep 12, 2007

He push a man


:ssh: it was a survey pipe from 02 that was never removed, but don't ruin the magic.

The Cascadia region is what the locals call the vancouver-to-portland area (bioregion). Vashon island is a werewolf-worthy wilderness only a ten minute ferry ride from Seattle.

More threads-

The Mercury private gothic club is targeted by hunters because of rumors created by shut-out beardlords.

Changelings braving the banal wasteland of Bellevue.

Dr. Kyle Farnsworth
Apr 23, 2004

Major tech companies actually do work on computer stuff: The God Machine.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Inexplicably appearing in the wrong WoD is probably the most God Machine thing the God Machine could do.

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!
The world's largest fungus and largest organism by area (about 3 km2 I think) is underground in eastern Oregon. That might be spooky?

Daeren
Aug 18, 2009

YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED
My Vampire game was actually set in the Pacific Northwest, so I have a few extra ideas (some from the game, some not):

- Old growth forests are old enough to remember Things. Things that might still be living inside them.

- Maximum Ferngully: the oldest Redwood in the forest has one of the Things locked inside of it. Big Business wants to do a bit of logging.

- The region's known for its eco-friendly nature and biodiversity. A local town's chemical dump's the dirty secret nobody likes to talk about.

- Green energy secretly backed by the Technocracy. Like aglets, their true purpose is sinister.

- It's not just rain shadows making Eastern Washington so much more barren and dry.

- Those solar powered trash cans aren't actually compressing trash. They're secretly funneling energy and trash somewhere.

- The Fremont Troll lives.

- The Chihuly Garden and Glass Museum actually depicts nightmarish creatures from the Deep Umbra. Don't go there at night. How do you think Dale Chihuly REALLY lost that eye?

Logicone
Nov 3, 2012

Fur proud service to ze Axis, I hereby avard myself und mein subordinates ze Better zan Herp Ribbon!

You get ze ribbon! Und YOU get ze ribbon! EVERYONE gets ze ribbon!

Except Herp. Arschloch.

moths posted:

I loved the CCP Easter egg in the Black Dog Games section.

I'll be running W20 next month! This is exciting, we're doing modern day Pacific Northwest. Probably a series of one-shot adventures with an overarching arc.

Possible points:
Big Oil wants a pipeline.
Starbucks-alike coffee shops are proliferating unnaturally.
A Mummy visits.
The Space Needle's true occult purpose is nearly complete.
Music scene...something.
One or two Reckoning hunters have appeared.
The local Sabbat and Black Spirals are getting chummy.

Anything obvious I'm missing? The idea is to have a ton of options to explore.

Here's something rather silly, but definitely Seattle flavored.

It's a unkept secret that the best weed in Seattle almost always ends up on the grave of Jimi Hendrix. It's also an unkept secret that anyone is welcome to come by and smoke it up in memory of Jimi. Recently however, people doing so have started to report a new strain of weed there - that might be laced with something, considering the things that they see when the smoke it. The players, however, recognize these as things from the supernal/underworld/spirit world/hedge/choose as appropriate for players, which raises the question - who's leaving the supernatural grass, and why?

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



Holy poo poo, I hope it's pigment so visitors can actually visit Hendrix.

Punting
Sep 9, 2007
I am very witty: nit-witty, dim-witty, and half-witty.

moths posted:

Holy poo poo, I hope it's pigment so visitors can actually visit Hendrix.

This is the only acceptable response.

Idrin
Jun 11, 2007

So Hendrix is actually a spectre? That's terrible.

Doodmons
Jan 17, 2009

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

The world's largest fungus and largest organism by area (about 3 km2 I think) is underground in eastern Oregon. That might be spooky?

At the very least, the Spirit representing it in the Shadow will be some sort of giant doombeast.

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


We made Tass joints in the last Mage game I was in. Mana-Juana gives the best high.

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!

Doodmons posted:

At the very least, the Spirit representing it in the Shadow will be some sort of giant doombeast.

Apparently it's 2400 years old and there's another huge one up in Washington. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=120049

Spooky mushrooms, the giant terrors of Cascadia.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell

moths posted:

I'm not sure how big a region would work, but I think an area centered between Seattle and Portland so they're both an hour drive and maybe pushing into Canada (Vancouver) occasionally.
Tellus is awesome, Loomer, does Pentex have anything else up in that corner?

In addition to the Tellus Seattle office, Pentex itself has a major office up in Seattle supervising the Salt Lake and LA offices. They also have, in the region:
Liston Industries, a Vancouver-based electronics manufacturer. Might be a little out of the way but the Glass Walkers in Vancouver could request help dealing with Pentex. Roger Daly is dead now, IIRC.


Other noteworthy businesses/fronts based in or with offices or a major connection to the region:
Rothman and Associates's Seattle office, a law firm founded in the 70s by a Changeling. It could be helpful against Pentex if your players want to do any legal work as well as being giant furry murder-beasts. Being owned and operated by the only changelings in the entire oWoD who actually understand (and aren't murdered made sane by) law means it probably has a strong stance on environmental and intellectual property matters.
Benning Aircraft and Space Research Centre in Seattle. It's basically Boeing, only it's also a front for a Syndicate construct. Did it survive the Avatar Storm? No idea.
Diefenbakker's, a Casino up in Vancouver. Syndicate owned, but IIRC there was something about changing hands that I can't remember off the top of my head.
AlphaFax, a Syndicate-controlled data compiling firm. Given the ties between the Syndicate and Pentex, and Pentex's ICS, could be a good target to sabotage and/or straight up explodify.
Developmental Neogenetics Amalgamated, the werewolf hunting DNA guys, have an office in Vancouver.

Seattle itself is a Camarilla city if you want to do anything linking in with vampires, while Vancouver is still an Independent princedom controlled by Siegfried. He also controls the Vancouver Sun and The Province newspapers, so some of the work of covering up is going to be handled by his people.

Not a huge lot at present, but I'll keep an eye out when I flip through stuff for you. The oWoD material for the PNW really focused on Vancouver more than anything.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
So, has anybody here tried the nWoD Demon yet? Someone told it was the Matrix but with angels, and that really has me interested.

DOCTOR ZIMBARDO
May 8, 2006
Yeah it owns. And really it's more like John le Carré but with Transformers (the Michael Bay ones that look all weird and poo poo, and they turn into people instead of cars).

The God-Machine is a huge part of what makes it so cool - it's an amazing idea for an antagonist, with the potential to get real deep thoughts about it - (if vampires are a sort of psychosexual terror, the God Machine is our - you and me in the real world - inability to imagine alternatives to capitalist etc. hegemony).

The way the characters work is cool as well. Instead of tracking a morality stat you're more like a body-snatcher, and your morality stat is how secure your various snatched identities are. At any moment you can destroy one of those identities and "go loud", at which time you transform into a monster with, basically, a huge range of abilities and a maxed out powerstat.

The writing is also pretty good. It goes a ways - though not nearly far enough - to discard unnecessary Greek or whatever other occult terms and uses primarily espionage jargon to express important concepts.

I'm a really big fan, a couple hours into a game with some friends and it's basically just amazingly cool.

Daeren
Aug 18, 2009

YER MUSTACHE IS CROOKED
Almost more importantly is that the mechanics are relatively tight for a WW product, and the powers are both incredibly interesting AND mostly mechanically sound. There's some stuff that could be fixed, but compared to like, Geist, it's comparatively bulletproof.

deadly_pudding
May 13, 2009

who the fuck is scraeming
"LOG OFF" at my house.
show yourself, coward.
i will never log off

cptn_dr posted:

We made Tass joints in the last Mage game I was in. Mana-Juana gives the best high.


Vienna Circlejerk posted:

The world's largest fungus and largest organism by area (about 3 km2 I think) is underground in eastern Oregon. That might be spooky?

I know you're gearing up for Werewolf, but dang that giant fungus is probably a magnificent source of Life Sphere Tass for Dreamspeakers, Cult of Ecstasy, and Verbena.

"Dude, like, I like to put it on a pizza. It's like a complete meal, with all the food groups, and as like the pizza, it gives you complete awareness, with all of the food groups. I mean Patterns. Also, the oven burns all the spores so you don't die from shrooms in your lungs."

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I'm kind of torn how to use that fungus. On one hand it's decay rot Wyrm-esque stuff and the B Spirals could call it home. On the other hand, it's a living, natural thing and maybe they want to corrupt it and move in to the weird ancient caves under it.

Or maybe it's a lost chunk of Tzimisce. I guess it could be all of these things, which would explain their Sabbat collusion.

Vienna Circlejerk
Jan 28, 2003

The great science sausage party!

moths posted:

I'm kind of torn how to use that fungus. On one hand it's decay rot Wyrm-esque stuff and the B Spirals could call it home. On the other hand, it's a living, natural thing and maybe they want to corrupt it and move in to the weird ancient caves under it.

Or maybe it's a lost chunk of Tzimisce. I guess it could be all of these things, which would explain their Sabbat collusion.

:allears:

They mapped it by finding dead trees and taking soil samples, so it could actually be a lot bigger and nastier underground.

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
So while it's great to be getting the hunter anthology, and seeing all these new projects...

Where the gently caress is the red list?

Lord_Hambrose
Nov 21, 2008

*a foul hooting fills the air*



I just started rereading my Promethean books, and I had forgotten how good they are. Is there anyone who has every run a game of this to completion? The whole concept of a personal journey seems like it wouldn't really make sense to do with more than one player.

Kellsterik
Mar 30, 2012
If I remember, a good chunk of Strange Alchemies is just essays on how to run the game, which you don't exactly see for Vampire. There's definitely a sense that your PCs spend time on their own or in the wastes and only converge as a throng from time to time. The sample characters who narrate each book's fiction are a throng, but they only meet up occasionally.

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

Vienna Circlejerk posted:

Apparently it's 2400 years old and there's another huge one up in Washington. http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=120049

Spooky mushrooms, the giant terrors of Cascadia.
Yeah, no, that's cool. I guess.

If you don't count The Trembling Giant. Over 100 acres, about 6,000 tons of roots which are, conservatively, 80,000 years old. Maaaybe a million.

Quantumfate
Feb 17, 2009

Angered & displeased, he went to the Blessed One and, on arrival, insulted & cursed him with rude, harsh words.

When this was said, the Blessed One said to him:


"Motherfucker I will -end- you"


Kellsterik posted:

If I remember, a good chunk of Strange Alchemies is just essays on how to run the game, which you don't exactly see for Vampire. There's definitely a sense that your PCs spend time on their own or in the wastes and only converge as a throng from time to time. The sample characters who narrate each book's fiction are a throng, but they only meet up occasionally.

Here's something to consider: Humanity is a social creature; is a personal journey truly one made alone? The goal is to become human, and the most foundational part of humanity is society.

Coincidentally I am looking at running a promethean game by skype and will probably be recruiting here. :v:

Senior Scarybagels
Jan 6, 2011

nom nom
Grimey Drawer

Quantumfate posted:

Here's something to consider: Humanity is a social creature; is a personal journey truly one made alone? The goal is to become human, and the most foundational part of humanity is society.

Coincidentally I am looking at running a promethean game by skype and will probably be recruiting here. :v:

Count me in I would love to join a real Promethean game.
Edit: How do skype games work? Do I need like a webcam?

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Punting
Sep 9, 2007
I am very witty: nit-witty, dim-witty, and half-witty.

Quantumfate posted:

Here's something to consider: Humanity is a social creature; is a personal journey truly one made alone? The goal is to become human, and the most foundational part of humanity is society.

Coincidentally I am looking at running a promethean game by skype and will probably be recruiting here. :v:

I'd be real interested in this. PBP is good and all but sometimes being able to sit around and talk is nice too.

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